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alcoholic29 May 28, 2010 05:09 PM

So I've made a spanish tortilla before and I can never invert it properly. I know the process of how to do it but something always goes wrong and I don't get that perfect shape.

I read someone said to skip the inverting and just put it under the broiler.

2 questions

Does this change the texture/flavour of the tortilla as compared to if I inverted it?

How long does it take to get browned?

Thanks

I wonder if a Spanish person thinks this is a sin to cook it this way.

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  1. bushwickgirl May 28, 2010 05:31 PM

    What is the difficulty you have with inverting it? Technical? I don't know why you need to broil it, for what, browning and finishing? It should be already cooked through when you're ready to invert it.

    Sure, you can brown it under the broiler, but it's not necessary. See my #1.

    It will only change the flavor of the outer, browned crust of the tortilla.

    The length of time it takes to brown is up to your broiler and it's heat output. If you decide to do this, keep an eye on it, as it will go fast.

    The entire Spanish population is cringing right now at the thought of you doing that...so spare the country of Spain.;-}}

    In all seriousness. I'm interested to know what difficulty you're having with inverting the tortilla.

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    1. re: bushwickgirl
      paulj May 28, 2010 05:46 PM

      I've had most success sliding the tortilla out onto a plate, then placing the pan over it, and invert.

      I also cook it with the lid on, so the top cooks a bit more before inverting.

      I have read about using a broiler. I think it should work fine. Why don't they use a broiler in Spain? Could it be broilers weren't a common part of home stoves?

      1. re: paulj
        bushwickgirl May 28, 2010 07:16 PM

        Spanish stoves may or may not have a broiler, I don't know; I can't imagine why they wouldn't. Obviously the OP does have one.

        The tortilla is normally flipped by sliding it onto a plate and back into the pan, as you described, or by tossing it into the air. Using a broiler will not cook the thicker tortilla through, it will just brown the surface. My original post was more about addressing the difficulty the OP might be having with the flipping/inverting process, rather than what method he/she chooses to finish the tortilla. I prefer recommending the more authentic, time tested technique.

        Tortilla de Española
        http://static.flickr.com/56/145322262...

        The Italian Frittate is plural for frittata, FWIW.

    2. Will Owen May 28, 2010 05:44 PM

      My take on this is that tortilla=frittata. And I make my frittatas by turning my oven on to Preheat with the temp. selector at maximum as soon as I turn the flame on under the pan. Then when the pan gets hot I pour in the egg mixture, stir it around just enough to make sure it's mostly cooked, then stick it into the middle of the oven for about three minutes. If I wanted it to brown I'd leave it longer, but I don't care for browned egg and Mrs. O can't stand it.

      I'm sure this is no more how they make frittatas in Italy than it is how they make tortillas in Spain. What I'm not sure about is why I or anyone else should care...

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      1. re: Will Owen
        bushwickgirl May 28, 2010 05:57 PM

        Yes, loosely defined, a Spanish tortilla is a potato "frittata," Tortilla de Patata, but the very thinly sliced potatoes are cooked in olive oil first, with onions if desired, drained, then the eggs are added and cooked until set and slightly browned. It's normally a thick affair, as compared to a frittata, and is flipped via the plate method, to finish cooking, and is not finished under the broiler.

        1. re: bushwickgirl
          Will Owen May 28, 2010 06:33 PM

          My frittate (to get all grammatically correct) are also thick affairs, and may or may not have cooked ingredients in them. (And I don't quite frankly give a hoot what the Spaniards or Italians do, don't no damn eggs get browned around here. My mom's omelets were the puffy kind, and all brown and crusty, and to me it was like eating burnt hair.)

          My point about applying top heat vs. flipping is that the OBJECTIVE is to cook both sides, and that how that objective is attained is a matter of merely technical interest. Unless of course you're doing some kind of re-enactment of historical authenticity, instead of simply cooking supper.

          1. re: Will Owen
            paulj May 28, 2010 07:01 PM

            Jose Andres in Made in Spain shows a version of this tortilla with is cooked on both sides, but wet on the interior, almost like a 'water pillow'.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOkk6x...

            A couple of the top Spanish chefs also say you can use good quality potato chips inplace of the home cooked potato slides.

            While potato and onion is the quintessential filling for tortillas in Spain, they aren't the only ones.

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              alcoholic29 May 28, 2010 08:39 PM

              Interesting that it was that wet on the inside. Haven't tried a tortilla/frittata like that before.

            2. re: Will Owen
              ChristinaMason May 29, 2010 05:44 AM

              I hate browned eggs, too, for exactly that reason. They *do* taste like burnt hair, or skin, or something inedible and disgusting! My tortilla de patata is barely golden....just how I like it.

              I follow this recipe (halving it and cooking in a small non-stick skillet) and always have great results: http://www.spanish-fiestas.com/recipe...

              I add much more salt, though, and I do let the potatoes get a little brown. Otherwise, the tortilla can be pretty bland. And I also drastically reduce the heat quite a bit before adding the egg mixture, or it gets too brown for my tastes.

        2. paulj May 28, 2010 07:44 PM

          Jose Andres breaking eggs and rules

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAsu-a...
          tortilla patatas chips

          It's not quite the whole thing, and in Spanish. I think he adds a finishing touch with a butane torch.

          There are a whole bunch of youtube videos on how to flip at tortilla, just search for the Spanish: (and a few on how not to
          )vuelta a una tortilla

          1. MMRuth May 29, 2010 05:34 AM

            My understanding is that a Spanish tortilla should not be browned. Rather than slipping the tortilla on to a plate to flip it, I put a plate on top of the skillet and with oven mits on grasp the plate and skillet and flip the tortilla onto the plate. Then I flip the tortilla onto another plate, and then flip it back into the skillet using same method as flipping it out. I know that sounds really convoluted, but I'm not so good at just sliding the tortilla out of the skillet!

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            1. re: MMRuth
              ChristinaMason May 29, 2010 05:47 AM

              Come to think of it, the ones I saw in Spain were never super-browned. More like lightly golden.

              1. re: MMRuth
                paulj May 29, 2010 08:21 AM

                I think the intention behind using the broiler is to set the egg on top, not to brown it. You should be able to control the distance and time to accomplish that. I don't use my broiler that much, so haven't tried it.

                A big variable with flipping is timing. Wait too long, and bottom will get too brown. Too soon, there will be a lot of liquid egg to spill. Those Spanish videos show the mess you can get, even with a flat top stove. In the Andres video the cook inverted the tortilla over a tray to catch the excess liquid egg. Then with the omelet back in the pan, he sliced a hole in the top, and added the liquid back in.

                1. re: MMRuth
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                  alcoholic29 May 29, 2010 07:41 PM

                  I'm not sure what the color should exactly be.

                  The Spanish restuarant I go to never has the top browned. It's not even golden. And this place is pretty authentic. But when I google images of Spanish Tortilla most of the images are browned tops.

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                    Harters May 30, 2010 03:40 AM

                    "I'm not sure what the color should exactly be."

                    It should be as you prefer to eat it. There's no right or wrong here.

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                  Harters May 29, 2010 02:13 PM

                  No reason why you shouldnt finish it under the grill if you're having a problem flipping it. It's your dinner and the important thing is that you enjoy it.

                  My partner & I were shown how to cook tortilla by our Mallorcan relative. He takes much longer to cook it than we would have previously thought necessary. A lowish heat and he constantly uses a spatula to "mould up" the egg mix as it cooks. Once it's almost cooked, it's plate on top; the tricky flip over and then sliding it back into the pan. Then it's back to the final bit of moulding.

                  1. paulj Jun 2, 2010 08:10 PM

                    On a Jamie Oliver show on Cooking Channel today I caught a glimpse of him making a 'Spanish omelet' in the oven. He admits it isn't it traditional, but should still get raves from a Spaniard. Oven cooking produces a bit of soufflé rise.

                    1. paulj Jun 2, 2010 11:08 PM

                      Apparently enough Spaniards have problems flipping tortillas that there is a market for specialized pans. The ones that I seen at importers like The Spanish Table and La Tienda have two hinged half moon shaped halves. Start the omelet in one side, flip over and finish on the other side.

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                      1. re: paulj
                        bushwickgirl Jun 3, 2010 12:33 AM

                        Heh, I've seen those in use in US restaurants and home kitchens as well, for the omelet flip-challenged. You can also put the beaten egg in both sides, with fillings in the middle, for a double thick version.

                        My mom made an lunch omelet she called "Spanish;" she finished it in the oven and it did indeed rise up like a souffle, as that's what eggs do. She served it with a tomato sauce with peppers and onions.

                        I think the oven finishing technique is a better option than finishing under the broiler.

                      2. barcelonabites Jun 3, 2010 12:11 PM

                        I live in Spain and although I am not a tortilla expert, I can report that they are normally golden brown in color but I have also seen some that were more brown (normally the ones people made at home actually). I've never heard of putting a tortilla under the broiler to brown but will ask around... Also, my oven has no broiler but maybe that's just my bad luck (it's a rental apartment so didn't have a choice:)

                        1. barcelonabites Jun 7, 2010 02:59 AM

                          Okay so yesterday I spent the day learning how to make authentic Spanish tortilla at my friend's restaurant here in Barcelona. He told me he'd never heard of finishing a tortilla by browning it under the broiler. Regarding how brown a tortilla should get, he said it's completely "a gusto", in other words, according to your personal taste. It is very common for tortillas to get quite brown (as opposed to just golden) when cooked, especially when they are homemade. He also told me that some people (himself included) like tortillas when they are still quite raw inside. Others prefer them more well done but there is no hard and fast rule.
                          Another interesting tidbit- to make a fluffier tortillas, he recommends either adding a pinch of corn flour to the eggs or beating the egg whites separately before combining with the whites. Also he recommends letting the potatoes sit in the egg mixture for at least 20 minutes before frying the tortillas (says that this lets them soak up the flavor better and that it makes a big difference in the end. :)

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                          1. re: barcelonabites
                            bushwickgirl Jun 7, 2010 07:50 AM

                            Ok, thanks for that info, I hope the OP sees it. Good pointers. One question, the potatoes soak in the eggs after being "poached" in the olive oil, right? Maybe a silly question but I want to be sure. Oh, and does the corn flour where you are have any leavening in it? I know how whipped egg whites will lighten an omelet or souffle, but how does the corn flour work here? Please call your friend...

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                              Harters Jun 7, 2010 08:06 AM

                              The BiL fries his potatoes, onions & garlic separately until they are cooked through. He then lets them fully cool before stirring them into the beaten eggs and starting cooking the tortilla. Don't forget that tortilla always tastes better served cold the next day.

                              1. re: Harters
                                bushwickgirl Jun 7, 2010 08:17 AM

                                It does make for a nice luncheon dish when cold.

                                1. re: Harters
                                  MMRuth Jun 7, 2010 08:40 AM

                                  I do mine the same way, using the recipe in a Penelope Casas book, though I don't use garlic. And I do put the onions and eggs into the beaten eggs and leave it for about 20 minutes before cooking.

                              2. re: barcelonabites
                                paulj Jun 7, 2010 08:07 AM

                                That Jose Andres 'water pillow' that I mentioned earlier probably qualifies as 'still quite raw'

                                1. re: paulj
                                  bushwickgirl Jun 7, 2010 08:17 AM

                                  That's my take on it.

                              3. paulj Jul 15, 2010 03:44 PM

                                Ferran Adria uses a broiler in this potato chip version

                                http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/eg...

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