Vegetarian becoming a carnivore -- What to eat?
I've been a vegetarian for 20 years. But, before I settle into that for the rest of my life, I want to find out what I've been missing.
So last night, I started eating meat again -- temporarily. I want to try out the best meat-based dishes around, and then -- mostly likely -- go back to being a vegetarian.
Since last night, I've had:
- Momofuku Ssam: uni; pork buns
- Bar Room at The Modern: Lamb and goat cheese terrine; Tripe(!)
I'm not squeamish, so I'll eat anything from the highbrow stuff to offal. But, I'm planning to avoid factory farmed animals as much as possible.
On my "to do" list so far:
- The duck at EMP
- Sushi (medium quality and high quality)
- Black Label burger at Minetta Tavern
- Steak at Keen's. Which one?
- What else?
I'm open to all suggestions. Please let me know your favorite meat-based dishes in Manhattan.
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Lobel's, (and Ottomanelli, for that matter) provide wonderful steaks that frankly are hard to foul up. You can make these steaks on a grill (optimal) or even in a buttered frying pan for that matter.
Nobody's mentioned that you ought to have the (fatty) brisket and (lean) Pastrami at Katz's deli.
Go to Schaller & Weber for German meat-rich delights -- they're in Yorkville.
If you'd like to return to seafood (I'm a Buddhist and my priest constantly implores me to try not eating "things with four little feet") then of course you can visit Citarella for some of the finest seafood in town.
I wish you luck. Eat as you like; life's too short not to live it with passion every waking moment...
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um, isnt recommending the most heavy meat items a bad idea to someone with a digestive system thats not prepared for something like this?
im a big fan of the black label burger, keens mutton chop, and uni everything but id suggest something a bit less heavy for someone entering the world of meat.
Original poster here. It depends on the digestive system in question, I guess -- I dove right in and haven't had any trouble.
I had the mutton chop a couple weeks ago at Keens and really enjoyed it. Black Label Burger is coming up this week.
I will post a more detailed summary when I wrap up the experiment in a few weeks, but so far, the best things I've had are the burger at Blue Smoke and the chicken (fried and otherwise) at The Redhead.
My next area of focus is seafood: Yasuda, Marea and/or Le Bernardin are on the agenda (when I can afford). Then, the grand finale at EMP, and it'll be back to rabbit food, I predict.
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I am going through something very similar! I am specifically looking for great burgers after 20 years without eating meat and I'm interested to hear where you end up eating. Minetta is on my list as well. I am blogging about the process too: http://meatmehalfway.com/
When I started eating meat again my first stop was DB bistro for their original DB burger
Banh Mi Saigon Bakery for a number one (oh and p.s they are still on mott st but moving to Grand next month)
Crif Dogs bacon wrapped hot dog
La Esquina assorted tacos from the window
Sakagura Japanese style tapas
Great NY Noodle Town roast pork
Kanoyama for sashimi Japanese toro and uni. Make sure you get the king crab roll
Chicken and rice from the cart 53rd and 6th
Ippudo pork buns and ramen
Prosperity Dumpling pork and chive dumpling
Keens Mutton Chop
Foie Gras at Eleven Madison Park who am I kidding just do the tasting
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ExFlexitarian, where you at?
when I went back to meat, the first thing I had was a steak sandwich at the now-closed Joe Jr's on Sixth Avenue. Spur-of-the-moment decision and, haven't looked back. can't think of any particularly amazing meat stuff but I would probably go ethnic and get a good goat or oxtail curry/stew; caribbean or possibly african; can't think of a specific manhattan rec right now but, ya, something along those lines.
When a formerly vegan friend began eating meat again, he jumped straight into soup dumplings and Shake Shack's Shack Burgers and BBQ (pork ribs)!
- a flight of oysters at Aquagrill or a seafood tower at Blue Ribbon or Balthazar with oysters, clams, shrimp, lobster
- lobster roll at Luke's Lobster
- bacon wrapped dates at Freemans
- Cookshop's house-made, double-smoked, Berkshire pork bacon -- NOT the kind you order as a side, I think it only comes as part of the skillet eggs at brunch
- Bacon wrapped, deep fried hot dogs at Crif Dogs
- Fried chicken and waffles at Amy Ruth's or how about just regular old fried chicken at Redhead though I do think Pies 'n' Thighs in Brooklyn might be better -- can't hurt to try them all?
- Fideos with clams at Casa Mono, followed by Sweetbreads, Duck Egg with Mojama, and the Foie Gras with Cinco Cebollas
- Seared foie gras at Bar Room at the Modern
- Pork croquettas at El Quinto Pino, follow by their uni panini
- Grilled octopus at Pylos or Babbo
- Charcuterie board at Bar Boulud
- Lamb's tongue & egg salad, pig's foot “Milanese," goose liver ravioli, and the fennel dusted sweetbreads at Babbo
- A few slices of jamon iberico at Despana
- Roasted bone marrow at Prune or Blue Ribbon Brasserie
Have you seen either Food Porn 2 episode of No Reservations? Lots of NYC joints in that episode and lots of meat dishes.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Keep 'em coming!
Since I posted, I've had:
- sushi and sashimi combo at Sushi Seki
- Grilled meat platter at Les Halles (I know, I know)
Everything was decent, but I haven't had anything yet that's really made me say, "Wow." I'm really looking for that kind of experience.
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Just went to Keen's with my Dad for the first time for both of us to celebrate father's day. The mutton chop was awesome, as were the more manageably sized 3 lamb chops (for those who don't already know, the mutton chop is also lamb, its just a bit older). Porterhouse for 2 was perfect. Seriously gave every steak I've had in Manhattan a run for its money. This is proper steak and lamb at a proper steak house.
For seafood, Le Bernardin is an absolute must. Don't miss the fusilli with red wine braised octopus and bone marrow at Marea. The maccheroni alla chitarra with sea urchin and crabmeat at Esca is good too.
For higher-end sushi, before gutsofsteel can enter this thread with his anti-Yasuda crusade, I'll suggest Sushi Yasuda or 15 East, but make sure to sit at the sushi bar and not at a table. Kurumazushi is a possibility, but it's even pricier.
As for Keens, I'd get the mutton chop and if you want steak, the porterhouse.
Perhaps the maialino al forno at Maialino? I don't see pork on your list yet. You could also further explore Momofuku Ssäm Bar's menu, as you've only scratched the surface there.
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This is an awesome query. These are my go to meats, not necessarily the rarest, but the always pleasing, these-are-why-I-wouldn't-give-up-eating-animals dishes. They are also in a multiple-meal friendly price range.
Bacon, Hash, and the Burger at The Spotted Pig- keep the cheese on, the roquefort makes it
Rice Cakes w/ pork sausage, Hamachi, and The Soft Shell Crab at Ssam
Brussel Sprout and Pancetta pizza at Motorino
The Prosciutto pizza at Co.
Roasted Chicken at Locanda Verde
Ribs at Fatty 'Cue, Ribs at Virgils, Ribs at Momo midtown (I like ribs...)
Sausage and Escarole pasta at Otto
A dozen oysters at Grand Central Oyster Bar- get a gimlet or a dry martini too!
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