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  <id>70949</id>
  <title>Providence and the Talmud (long)</title>
  <published_at>Sat Jul 02 21:25:47 -0700 2005</published_at>
  <post_count>12</post_count>
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    <id>2</id>
    <name>Los Angeles Area</name>
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        <id>388271</id>
        <content>Finally, after many years, we decided to go back to that of yore loathsome place controlled by the Mafia, with a chlorine-smelling patio and obnoxious service. 
We said, let's try and see what the new eastern winds brought about.  
 
On time we made our 7:30 PM arrival, warmly greeted by a multitude of hosts (more on that later). 
Intrigued by the white little things nailed to the walls high above, I inquire. Host # 1 says people have different opinions. Asks about mine. I say "fungus?". He says, majority believes those are ceramic belly buttons. Wife -lapidary- says just one word re.decor: "depressing". I -condescendingly- claim minimalism of some sort. She ignores, of course, my remark, staring at the vast expanses of brown wall-covering stuff. 
Place three quarters full, nice ambience. On to the table. 
The two of us are seated in a table for four. I look at Host # 2. Host # 3 says we should have gotten a table for 2, but that's OK. I offer to move, saying I hate the restaurant wasting two seats. Host # 4 says it's all right. Weird, I think.
Bernardaud, Riedels (right size, not huge), nice shiny silverware (looks Italian to wife, that means it probably is). I'd have added damascene table cloths, but what the heck, this is California, not Italy, so it's OK. All very elegant. And we seat. And wait. 
And wait.
Host # 4 asks if we would like something to drink, cocktails perhaps?. I say "Pellegrino", and the wine list please. And we wait.
Host # 5 asks if we would like something to drink, cocktails perhaps?. I mumble something with the word "already" in it.
All hosts/hostesses very gracious and warm, trying to do their respective bests, so no offense. 
So far, no menus. No bread. More on that -obviously- later.
And along comes the wine list.
My brain's pleasure centers fire up when I read the name Nicolas Joly on the list. Any restaurant (and I mean ANY) offering on their list a 2001 Nicolas Joly Savenni&#232;res Becherelle (retail value $20 to $30, VERY hard to find) for 50 bucks will win my eternal love, gratitude, infinite appreciation and unrestrained, entirely biased favorable opinions, for as long as inventory lasts.Bottle shows up at perfect temperature, hostess # 6 uncorks, I'm in heaven. Even wife likes it, which means a LOT.
Did I mention menus? Yeah, a few lines above. And bread. Well, nothing new on that department. I make eye contact with host # 7. He immediately reports himself to duty. I suggest bringing us the menus, which then promptly materialize. See, you just need to ask.
As with the bread: if you chase the guys around, you get it. Otherwise, forget it. Nice bread. Didn't ask where it came from.
Menu's left side lists tasting on top (if I remember correctly, $135) and a "market menu" at the bottom. Wife says nay to the left, yeah to the right. So right we go, entirely ignorant of the fact that we were about to engage along the lines of a long talmudic discussion about sizes, measures, sins and purity. 
My animal instinct tells me to order 3 dishes. Kampachi($17), Squid($19) &amp; Big eye tuna($38). She orders Tuna salad($19) &amp; muscovy duck($38).
Amuse bouche: 3 tiny wonderful little cheese rolls with tuna-based salad on a ceramic spoon. Divine.
Kampachi: thin slices of delicious, melt-in-your-mouth raw fish, beautifully spiced, can't think of a better appetizer. Don't ask how it matched the Becherelle, my eyes will roll back and I'll go ecstatic.
Tuna salad: or rather, tuna AND salad. Seared tuna, exquisitely prepared salad appetizer.
On to my second: squid. According to menu, comes with a jalape&#241;o gel&#233;e.
What I got was a plate with 3 quarter-size dollops containing a mini-tiny squid piece and some micro vegetables, within same said dollops. Nice, sublime taste. And I look around for the jalape&#241;o gel&#233;e. Suddenly, I notice a reddish gellyish particle the size of a small pomegranate grain inside each dollop. I carefully lift one with the knife, put it on my tongue, and voil&#224;: a world of taste explodes on top of the single taste bud it covered. And here came my first talmudic issue. You see: there are sizes and sizes.
In Mishnayos Pesachim the sages discuss how much sacrificial meat you can have in your hands when you leave the temple in Jerusalem (since it was all was supposed to be consumed in the temple). Rabbi Meir says: the equivalent of an egg. Rabbi Yehudah says: the equivalent of an olive. Now, evidently, none of the sages cared to account for the size of a pomegranate grain; that's below significance. Would the sages consider valid to write in the menu "jalape&#241;o gel&#233;e" and offer a size of less than an olive? Clearly, no.
On to the duck. Here, size is not an issue. Ultra-rich dish, great texture &amp; moisture &amp; taste. Actually, over-powering richness, not a single green / potato / side of any kind to go along. Definitely, a low-carb item.
Big eye tuna: no complains in this department, really enjoyed. I didn't get the eye, though.
Cheese tray ($15 pp): nice selection. California, Italy, France. I'll never ever remember cheese names. Reasonable variety to choose from, all excellent.
Weakest part was desserts. Another talmudic low, and it gets even worst. Please bear with me. I read "White peach w/sauternes sabbaione $11". Now, I would go for miles on my bare knees on chickpeas to wherever there happens to be great sabbaione. Rich, creamy, savory, fragile rare nectar almost impossible to get. When I read the above I went nuts. Sure, bring me the stuff! What I got was:
a) one 15" circular dish with a 2" central cup-like cavity.
b) one eight (1/8) of a white peach diced in cavity mentioned in a) above.
c) a dollop of (peachy?) gelatin filling the empty half of said cavity, since item b) above wasn't enough to fill it. 
At this juncture, you might be asking what happened with the sabbaione?
Well, it turns out: the chef used most probably a Japanese calligraphy brush to draw a small enigmatic character on the vast empty piece of real estate mentioned in a) above, comprised between the external edge of the 2" cavity and the internal edge of the 20" plate. The "ink", so to speak, being that mythical sabbaione mentioned in the menu. And I say "probably", since even though I tried my best, I couldn't manage to put enough of it into a spoon to let my tongue get a sense of texture required to properly evaluate "sauternes sabbaione". Would Rabbi Meir and/or Rabbi Yehudah consider this mention of sabbaione in the menu as legal? No, not by any means.
Wife chose for dessert the "Tropical Tasting" ($11). Menu mentions, among other stuff: pineapple and mango.
What she got: 
a) one eighth (1/8) of a thin slice of pineapple.
b) one (1) caramelized cherry.
c) same calligraphy brush above exercised this time on a mango-ish fluid.
Don't get me wrong, it looked beautiful, and probably even tasted great. Who knows? I got the cherry, and really loved it.
Best part, and now I'm serious, folks, was the petit-fours. In particular, the dark chocolate truffle. To die for.
My healthy advice: skip dessert, go straight to the (complimentary) petit fours.
And last, but not least: they have like 4 different coffees to choose from. I chose the "Panama midnight jazz $5". 
What can I say? The quintessential coffee. Delicious. Only in Venezuela I've been able to taste stuff like that.
Final bill, including aforementioned Pellegrino and a glass of Calvados Coeur de Lion VSOP, including tax, not including tip: $300.
Will we be back, definitely, but not right now. There guys are on the right path, service is discombobulated right now, kitchen needs some feed back.
That's the secret hope of this posting; hey, after all, the Beverly Hills Cheese Store now charges you by the scal</content>
        <published_at>Sat Jul 02 21:25:47 -0700 2005</published_at>
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          <id>0</id>
          <name>RicRios</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>388281</id>
      <content>That was a great post! Thanks for the effort.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 02 22:55:43 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Bob Brooks</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>388297</id>
      <content>Thanks for the review -- 
 
I was just there at Providence for the tasting menu this week.  I will do a write up shortly.
 
Have to now try the WG tasting menu to do a comparo.
 
Providence has some distance to go before it matches WG for overall dining experience IMO ... at these prices, it is (unfortunately) not all just about the food.  Service, decor, overall care and handling, matters.
 
That old Patina space ... still get spooked thinking about those cameras that installed way back when ...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 03 00:39:29 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ipse dixit</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>388314</id>
      <content>the cameras are  no longer, one of the changes that took place during the renovation</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 03 04:38:36 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388297</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>staggerlee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>388451</id>
      <content>As of a month ago the WG didn't have a Tasting Menu, but I expect one to be available soon, after talking to the Chef. Based on my own dining experiences recently at WG the TM will be completely different than anything in the past, hopefully not too different(Trotteresqe), not too much foam please!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 04 18:25:55 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388297</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>russkar</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>388317</id>
      <content>Thanks for a masterful review. I brought a Savenni&#232;res to Mario's Peruvian with some hounds recently to see how it showed it that setting.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 03 11:11:20 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Adsvino</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>388326</id>
      <content>LOL!  Your review is a helluva lot more entertaining than mine was.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 03 12:21:57 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JBK</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>388330</id>
      <content>Ric, you have definately earned your 'hound chops on this one.  I salute you, for having sniffed out some  great sounding chow, and juxtaposing it with the talmudic teachings and the utter pretentiousness of it all.
 
Everything that you read on Chowhond, all rolled up in a single posting.

Link: http://www.indefatigable-indolence.org</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 03 14:08:14 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
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        <name>Chino Wayne</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>388445</id>
      <content>Re: Wall decor.
 
I've been twice now -- although once was for a pre-soft launch practice run -- and have come to the conclusion that those things are either ceramic gnocchi or terra cota barnacles.
 
The service was indeed attentive (I won't count the soft-launch trial run) and we were gratified to see that MC brought along a few of his creations from WG. I agree that the kinks still need to be worked out but, I really like the extensive wine list and the private VIP kitchen-view table. I hope to secure a sponsor in order to indulge in both someday. ; )
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      <published_at>Mon Jul 04 17:18:50 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Kris P</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>388534</id>
      <content>I'm intrigued by your mention of a private kitchen-view table -- do you have any info on it?  For example, do I need to be a VIP to reserve it and/or is there some special price for it?  Also, do you know how many it seats?  We would be a party of 2.  Thanks in advance for any info you have.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 05 11:49:50 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388445</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>chudawn</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>388577</id>
      <content>I'm afraid I don't have particulars involved beyond what I was told while being given a private tour of the place. Here's what I do know: The glass-enclosed, u-shaped plush booth sits in a corner adjacent to the lobster tank and prep area and affords a mostly but, not fully unobstructed view of the entire kitchen. 
 
Further, it comes with its own dedicated wait staff and will only carry a single booking per evening. I couldn't recall if the meal served was kaiseki style or regular menu but there is certainly a minimum.
 
Hope that helps.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 05 15:06:23 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388534</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Kris P</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>388605</id>
      <content>Thank you!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 05 16:56:59 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388577</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>chudawn</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>388450</id>
      <content>wonderful review.
 
For actual sizes of k'zayit- olive size and k'b(v)eitzah - egg size see the link below.

Link: http://tinyurl.com/acdsd</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 04 18:24:08 -0700 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>388271</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jerome</name>
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