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Sushi of Gari?

notsusan May 20, 2010 04:45 PM

What's the verdict? Last visit to NYC, we ate at Sushi Yasuda which was yummy. Any other suggestions?

Sushi Yasuda
204 E 43rd St, New York, NY 10017

370 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

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    gutsofsteel May 20, 2010 04:55 PM

    Gari is more modern style sushi, creative, very good quality, I like it far better than Yasuda.

    It's almost more expensive.

    Other suggestions:

    Sushi Seki
    15 East

    15 East
    15 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

    370 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

    1. thew May 20, 2010 04:56 PM

      i have not been to the westside gari, but the original on E. 78th is brilliant. Where yasuda is my favorite for traditional sushi, gari is my favorite for modern creative global sushi (for lack of a better description)

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      1. re: thew
        drumwine May 20, 2010 07:25 PM

        Sushi of Gari (E.78th) is some of the most inventive sushi in NY. Highly recommend it,

        370 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10024

        1. re: drumwine
          MMRuth May 21, 2010 04:42 AM

          I was just there on Tuesday after a rather (too) long haitus and had a delicious meal ordering a la carte. I do think the UES location is better than the UWS one, though I prefer the ambiance at the latter.

        2. re: gutsofsteel
          uwsister May 20, 2010 08:39 PM

          I just find it funny that you have this "You haven't eaten at Kuruma or Masa? You don't know what good sushi is!" attitude EVERY time Yasuda's brought up. No sweat. I'm glad you had a great meal at Urasawa. A friend of mine who's a Urasawa regular said she prefers eel at Yasuda. But I don't think she's ever been to Japan, so what the heck does she know? Anyway I hope to make it to Urasawa soon.

          1. re: uwsister
            gutsofsteel May 20, 2010 08:42 PM

            I just think that Yasuda is incredibly overrated and I will try to dissuade people from choosing it over other better options available, if they are interested in the better sushi places in town.

            1. re: gutsofsteel
              another_lau May 21, 2010 05:15 AM

              i agree that it's overrated. very questionable service for a place of that caliber: yasuda the guy himself can be rude if he doesn't like you or if he disagrees with you (seen him kick people out). he rushes you. i've seen multiple times that they overcharged customers by "mistake". the sushi is "traditional"-style, but not really that traditional. one can even say the shape of the sushi is unconventional, rather round than long, though i like it personally. the fish is good but not out of the world given what you pay for.....

              but there's one thing. the rice. that to me is actually super top rate. and the soy sauce. the seaweed. he does make sure these important basics are done well, and these basics are really important. for these alone, i'd still recommend it.

              1. re: another_lau
                Silverjay May 21, 2010 06:03 AM

                Yasuda is an excellent sushi restaurant, and although not on the highest levels of some of those you will find in Japan, it is certainly at a level that’s not in abundance here in the U.S. For sure, Yasuda himself is his own man, opinionated, sometimes moody, perhaps even slightly roguish. He can also be charming, funny, and educational. But you know what- welcome to the world of Japanese counter dining. There are thousands of guys like this in Japan. Doesn’t mean their food’s not good or even necessarily that the service is not good. This is just the double-edge sword of sitting right in front of the person preparing your meal. Some will do it stoically, politely, and without comment, some will do it with a bug up their ass, and some will do it somewhere in between. If you don’t like the character of the guy serving, go to a different shop and find someone who you do like. Or go to an American restaurant where the chef is back behind a swinging door.

                1. re: Silverjay
                  another_lau May 21, 2010 09:03 AM

                  sure personality / likability is rather subjective. but rushing the meal (you easily get over 20 pieces within the first 40 minutes if you do omakase), "accidental" overcharging, talking down to customers, and, significantly - kicking people out - seem a bit too far. these aren't things i've ever come across in japan. as i said, for the quality of the sushi i'd still go back, and recommend it to people. i do find the guy quite likable sometimes too. but i also understand why some people are justifiably pissed off about him.

                  1. re: another_lau
                    Silverjay May 21, 2010 01:01 PM

                    If you're ordering omakase here, you don't get it, so anyway, move along and make way for someone who does. And I’ve come across all this stuff in Japan. Sushi chefs in fact are renown for being intimidating and talking down to customers. This is a cultural stereotype consistently parodied on Japanese tv. And sorry, it’s usually foreigners getting kicked out of places for breaching basic levels of etiquette. But even if it’s just the guy being a grumpy dick, that’s just him. He’s not a passive yes man. He’s been there 5 days a week, serving lunch and dinner for years. He’s served thousands of patrons. I love how things have escalated to the notion that he’s so rogue, he’s deliberately bilking customers who just ate right in front of him. Right, because New Yorkers are suckers who would never challenge a bill.

                    As I mentioned, this is what you get with this type of cultural dining experience. If it bothers you, move along until you find a chef you like.

                    1. re: Silverjay
                      Yaxpac May 21, 2010 01:45 PM

                      "If you're ordering omakase here, you don't get it, so anyway, move along and make way for someone who does."
                      -what does this mean? people who order omakase at yasuda don't get it??

                    2. re: another_lau
                      uwsister May 21, 2010 08:26 PM

                      >sure personality / likability is rather subjective. but rushing the meal (you easily get over 20 pieces within the first 40 minutes if you do omakase), "accidental" overcharging, talking down to customers, and, significantly - kicking people out - seem a bit too far.

                      I've never experienced ANY of these nor I have seen it and I've been to Yasuda (sitting in front of Yasuda) multiple times. 20 pieces in the first 40 minutes? I'm not doubting your experience but I don't think you can plainly state "you easily get over..." as I doubt it's the case for most people.

                      As for your sushi experience in Japan, especially in regards to sushi chefs personalities - do you speak Japanese? That'll make a huge difference in interacting with sushi chefs, as you can imagine.

                      1. re: uwsister
                        another_lau May 22, 2010 05:15 PM

                        i suppose many other people complained about being rushed at his station too. but if your experience is otherwise, thanks for sharing.

                        my own japanese is rudimentary, though i don't quite see how it's so relevant to the discussion here. rushing, overcharging, and kicking people out aren't things that seem to depend on the language very much.

                        but anyway. to each their own. i wasn't saying i don't like the place. but liking it shouldn't stop me from telling people what i've seen / feel at the place i guess.

                        1. re: another_lau
                          thew May 23, 2010 07:55 AM

                          for what it's worth yasuda was very funny and gracious with me, and i never felt rushed

                          i couldnt say if i was overcharged or if the place is just costly

              2. re: uwsister
                agaaga May 20, 2010 08:49 PM

                I think neither Kuruma nor Yasuda can be even compared to Jiro or Kyubei in Tokyo. Although IMHO, Yasuda seems better than Kuruma pricewise. I found Kuruma was a joke....

                1. re: agaaga
                  drumwine May 20, 2010 09:13 PM

                  and I've eaten at Tsukiji Market in Tokyo, & Yasuda and prefer Sushi of Gari...more ideas & WOWS for the palate.

            2. Kashei May 22, 2010 10:37 AM

              I like Gari but wayyyyyy prefer Sushi Seki, despite Seki supposedly being a student of Gari. It's like Seki has taken the Gari ideas to a whole new level.

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