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camper May 18, 2010 03:09 PM

Hello all. I had guests for a dinner of roast chicken, mashed potatoes, and gravy... simple fair.
One guest complimented the gravy and asked if I used corn starch. Does anyone use corn starch to make gravy? weird...but what do I know. We talked at some length about gravy making and he told me his mother "fried" the flour in the left over chicken grease.

Has anyone ever fried your gravy? what advantage does it hold?

Me I just let the roast chicken drippings cool down some, blend in some flour with a whisk, get the mixture a little hot and slowly blend in milk. Maybe that is fried? What am I missing here?

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    LifesAnOyster May 20, 2010 01:36 PM

    I have really "fried" my gravy. Let it cool then cut into squares, or trapezoids if you like, bread it with panko bread crumbs and deep fry it. Kind of like you would do with polenta or grits. Size of gravy and temperature of fryer are crucial.

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      LukesBride May 20, 2010 08:29 PM

      wow. you are my hero!

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        camper May 31, 2010 08:54 AM

        All interesting and enlightening... thanks.
        I don't think I would ever use corn starch for a gravy. It makes it look funny and doesn't have the same taste. And besides I don't need the instant emulsifying utility of corn starch since I think I have become good at mixing flower into whatever without it lumping. I remember watching Emril say, "let your drippings cool before adding flour otherwise you gonna make a bunch of lil dumplins".
        So I always use flower.
        I think my guest wasn't really talking about frying.. maybe like me she just mixes it and cooks it until bubbly and the raw flour taste has subsided and then slowly adds back the broth, grease, or milk. She just called it frying. I think frying is what is explained above.
        As far as color, I never browned the flour to make color. When roasting I usually put a cut up onion and carrot in the bottom of the pan and they caramelize. It makes the chicken drippings naturally brown. My roast chicken gravy is always a little brown... even with milk gravy.

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          Davwud May 31, 2010 09:02 AM

          If your gravy is lumpy, you can just strain it anyway.

          DT

      2. rworange May 20, 2010 02:00 AM

        My mother always browned the flour in a dry pan for flavor. prior to adding anything

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          janniecooks May 19, 2010 02:38 AM

          As Uncle Bob pointed out, what you refer to as "fried" describes the making of a roux. The flour is browned in the drippings to cook it to remove the raw flour taste, and to brown it to add color to the gravy. Cooking the flour in the pan drippings before adding broth or milk make for a more richly flavored, more complex sauce.

          Cornstarch, by the way, makes an adequate thickener, but it results in a more gelatinous, clear sauce. If it is cooked for too long the starch will break down and lose its thickening power.

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            JungMann May 19, 2010 12:31 PM

            It should be noted that the various shades of roux also have varying thickening power and flavor. I usually go to blond, sometimes nearly brown if I want a nuttiness to the gravy.

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              janniecooks May 19, 2010 02:05 PM

              I've not made dark roux, but I seem to recall that the darker the roux, the less thickening power. Is that right?

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                Uncle Bob May 19, 2010 05:38 PM

                Yes.............

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                  JungMann May 19, 2010 06:16 PM

                  A dark roux is for flavoring mainly, as in gumbo. Does little thickening.

            2. Uncle Bob May 18, 2010 05:35 PM

              *We talked at some length about gravy making and he told me his mother "fried" the flour in the left over chicken grease*

              It's called...Making a Roux........

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                raleighboy May 18, 2010 06:52 PM

                Seconded. I wasn't aware there was any other gravy making technique..

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                  Davwud May 20, 2010 04:29 AM

                  Third. That's exactly what it is.

                  You can cook it for an extended period of time until it starts to darken and it picks up more flavour.

                  DT

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                    jeanmarieok May 20, 2010 08:34 PM

                    Yep, that's how I make gravy, too.

              2. Kajikit May 18, 2010 03:37 PM

                If you use cornstarch you don't have to cook the raw flour taste out of the gravy before you can eat it. It's a shortcut. (My mother taught me to use cornstarch to make gravy, custard etc.)

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                  atlantanative May 18, 2010 03:33 PM

                  2nd the "fried" gravy. Always had it made that way growing up - what I understand now is that it is to "toast" the flour so that there's not that raw flour taste or maybe to incorporate it and keep it from clumping.

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