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Best Pizza in DC?

What do you guys think is the best pizza place in DC? It's between 2 Amys and Pizzeria Paradiso for me. I'm doing some work with Lexus Magazine, and they recently published a story that says 2 Amys is teh best neopolitan style pizza - what's your opinion?

http://secure.drivers.lexus.com/lexus...

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Two Amys
3715 Macomb St NW, Washington, DC 20016

Pizzeria Paradiso
3282 M St NW, Washington, DC 20007

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    1. 2 amys, pizza paradiso and matchbox are all excellent for pizza

        1. Are you talking about real pizza, or the nuevo style featured at the 3 places you mentioned? Are you talking about DC style (Ledo's for example) or New York corner pizzaria style (which doesn't really happen here)? Personally, I like Jerry's while my wife likes Ledo's and neither of us were particularly impressed with the gourmet pizzas at Amy's, etc. Fact is, I make better pizza, when I'm not being lazy, than they do. BTW, if you want gourmet pizza, try Riccuiti's in Olney.

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          Ledo Restaurant
          4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

          1. 2 Amys. No offense to "skipper" but Ledo's is disgusting.

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            Ledo Restaurant
            4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

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              1. re: klackey

                Regarding klackey's comment, as someone brought up on Brooklyn, NY, corner pizza, my feeling is that 2 Amys is pretentious and that calling what it sells "pizza" is a very misleading. No one who was brought up in NY might tolerate it, but would never find it acceptable. As far as Ledo's is concerned, its a DC taste and not one I share, just tolerate for my wife's sake, but calling it 'disgusting" is a great overstatement.

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                Ledo Restaurant
                4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

                1. re: skipper

                  skipper, spot on.
                  2 Amys is a pretentious joke - the food critics probably get free pizza for their positive reviews.
                  Ledos is just plain bad (and the sauce actually tastes sweet)

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                  Ledo Restaurant
                  4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

                  1. re: a1234

                    Ledo's is pretty bizarre stuff. It's best with a salty topping like green olives or anchovies, because the sauce really is sweet.

                    The target Ledo customer is probably around 10.

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                    Ledo Restaurant
                    4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

                    1. re: Bob W

                      I just turned 40 and I still love Ledo's. Been eating it since I was a kid and I generally only go to the original one in Hyattsville (which is moving to College Park this summer.)

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                      Ledo Restaurant
                      4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

                      1. re: 4X4

                        I'm 42 and in the same boat. Go to the original Ledo's or don't go at all. The chain Ledo's have no association with the original besides licensing the name and the three I've been to have been just awful.

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                        Ledo Restaurant
                        4509 Knox Road, College Park, MD 20740

                  2. re: skipper

                    There have been two reports on 2 Amys on slice.com, probably the most prominent pizza website in the country. It is NYC based and covers NY thoroughly.

                    The first is a all-out rave in 2007 by Ed Levine, the author of "A Slice of Heaven" and true NY pizza authority:

                    http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives...

                    The second by Adam Kuban, the other major player on slice.com from this past January:

                    "The 2 Amy's pizza was technically the best pizza I ate this day. Beautiful to look at, puffy end-crust (or cornicione). Great color, char, leopard-spotting, all that jazz. And if you're into Neapolitan, you'd probably be in heaven."

                    Adam does go on to say he doesn't care so much for Neapolitan pizza.....

                    http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives...

                    I was brought up in NY and adore 2 Amys. I am always amused when people make pronouncements and say they represent the taste of most NYers.

                    1. re: a1234

                      It means that everyone has different opinions. skipper posted that nobody from NY "would ever find it acceptable." I am quoting Ed Levine and others to show that is clearly not true. You don't have to agree, but there are people form NY who know a lot about pizza and like 2 Amys.

                      Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, unless you say something that is blatantly untrue.

                    2. re: skipper

                      Really? You're calling pizza "pretentious"? I wasn't aware hot dough and sauce could be emotive. But you're from NY (so nice you mention it twice), so I'll just take your word as the gospel truth.

                      1. re: biscuit

                        Pizza can't be emotive? What about water and flour alone? Lots of strong opinions over the centuries about bread... not to mention wine, which is squashed grapes in a bottle...

                      2. re: skipper

                        Just seeing the photos and comments about "Two Amys" is enough to keep me away. It's the kind of pizza that requires a topping of arugula and sun dried tomatoes and "artisinal mozzarella." It's not a NY pizza, or New Jersey, or even Boston for that matter. It's a con.

                        I got a Suprema at The Italian Store last weekend, where I've been getting almost-New Jersey pizza for about 5 years. Something has changed there, and not for the better. The little mini-mall has been undergoing a spiffy face-lift, and the cooler right inside the front door will filled with some kind of unappealing American salami and an underwhelming selection of cheeses. There was no crowd (at 4PM on a Saturday). The pizza was kind of synthetic looking and not really up to par.

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                        Italian Store
                        3123 Lee Hwy, Arlington, VA 22201

                        1. re: Geeyore

                          2 Amy's sells pizza like you would get in Naples, not NYC.

                          That doesn't make it a con, because they don't advertise NYC pizza.

                          Though I suppose we could say all pizza served in NYC is a con, since pizza is originally from Italy, and what they serve in NYC doesn't look anything like Italian pizza.

                          1. re: DanielK

                            I had no idea that Italians liked burnt soupy cheese. And in Naples no less. Those guys in Italy really need to get their act together.

                            1. re: monkeyrotica

                              I'm not commenting on whether people like that style, or like 2 Amy's pizza. That's subjective.

                              The statement from Geeyore's post is because it's not like NYC pizza, it's a fraud, which is simply a ridiculous statement that must be challenged.

                              1. re: monkeyrotica

                                Perhaps you should try visiting to find out.

                                1. re: ClevelandDave

                                  I seriously doubt the pizza in Naples measures up to the gold standard of pizzas: a slice from Guido's on Bleeker Street. In fact, everything in NYC is better than in DC. This is a fact established by millions of New Yorkers, tourists, and people who don't know any better.

                                  1. re: monkeyrotica

                                    monkey - You nearly broke my irony detector!

                                    I am purely amazed that this debate (not this thread, mind you) keeps the energy it does. Different pizzas + different palates + different experiences (even at the same place over time) = no possibility for objectivity. This whole forum is based on subjectivity. Live and let live.

                                    1. re: Dennis S

                                      The subject of pizzas, clam chowders, and barbecue seem to elicit a similar amount of regional pride/revulsion. I guess one’s perspective depends on how inclusive/exclusive your tastes tend to be. One can certainly appreciate different seasonings/techniques and still prefer one style of pizza/chowder/bbq to another. It’s not like there’s One Pizza to Rule Them All/One Pizza to Find Them/One Pizza to Bring Them All/And In the Darkness Bind Them. Because that’s one evil pie that must be destroyed.

                                          1. re: monkeyrotica

                                            and hey just TRY to find STL style pizza anywhere else. even a lot of us natives don't like or can explain it!

                                            the OP really does beg the question: "what kind of pizza are we discussing?"

                                            1. re: hill food

                                              Great point. We make it at our house the "home grown way", though sometimes we have provel shipped to us in one manner or another.

                                              I used to work at an Imo's during college. There really is little middle ground. You either love it or hate it.

                                              But to see a blind taste test of New Yorkers sampling pies and then have an Imo's at the end? Would be priceless!

                                              1. re: hill food

                                                I'm assuming the OP talking about Neapolitan pies, of which DC has quite a few.

                                                http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bl...

                                                But they're a totally different animal from NY slices or New Haven pies or Ledos or deep dish or STL.

                                              2. re: monkeyrotica

                                                And Chili. Watch this: ALL GOOD CHILI CONTAINS BEANS!

                                                bar the door...

                                                1. re: Insidious Rex

                                                  Gotta agree. I don't know who was responsible for the "rule" that "real" chili doesn't have beans. Some Texan, probably.

                                                  1. re: flavrmeistr

                                                    Ooh be careful. The chili heads will come pouring in here with their cowboy boots a clompin and waving their chili dictionaries at us shouting about the difference between chili, stew and ragu...

                                                    1. re: Insidious Rex

                                                      They eat chili in Texas? Huh. Learn something new every day. They use hamburger and cinnamon and serve it over noodles, right?

                                                      1. re: monkeyrotica

                                                        That's Cincinnati, a state smaller than Texas.

                                                        1. re: monkeyrotica

                                                          Monkey: heh </smirk> and there's a glaring syntactical error in Mike's response (unless it was purposeful) in which case I'd respond that Laredo is a smaller state than Ohio.

                                                          personally my state of mind is shrinking by the day.