Having breakfast on Long Island
About once a week, I go out for breakfast.
For me this means more than scrambled eggs on a roll or a donut. I like to find interesting creations that I can sit and relax with (and I don't have much of a sweet tooth). I try places in part based on where I had to be at the time, part of a desire for variety.
Following, then, is a list of some of the more recent experiences; thoughts and comments are welcome:
Thomas' Ham and Eggery, Carle Place: is where I'm sitting right now; it's the second time I've managed to get here. I'm eating a disappointingly bland frittata with chicken sausage (they same homemade) and tomato and leek. I guess the watery coffee wasn't a good omen (though they must consider it precious, considering how difficult it is to get a refill). The waitress has one of the attitude where the customers are a necessary annoyance she must deal with to get through the day.
Jo Jo Apples in Lido Beach: a happily very different experience. The spicy corn frittata was very tasty; service was friendly. An omelet from a different visit was almost as good, and still several cuts above average.
Love Lane Kitchen in Mattituck: I like this place quite a bit, but it's breakfast menu doesn't really equal its lunch. I've been going there once a month when I go out east to pick up a winter CSA share and, strangely, the breakfast specials have remained exactly the same since November (or maybe it was December). I always enjoy what I have here, though I wish there were more variety (especially as things like Banana Nut Pancakes with Nutella Maple syrup are way too sweet for me).
Tim's in Northport: another underwhelming breakfast: a mushroom/spinach/goat cheese omelet. The spinach consisted of flecks of green; it took me some checking to find the goat cheese, and I'm still unsure if there were mushrooms. All-told, a rather blah omelet (chewy rather than fluffy). I like crunchy bits when it comes to home fries, but these potatoes went rather overboard with that; aside from the flavor of carbon, they had little taste. Wait service was indifferent.
Park Avenue Grill (formerly Rebecca's) in Amityville: always a very pleasant breakfast in all ways, and a solid choice--the sort of no-brainer where I know I won't be disappointed.
Maureen's Kitchen in Smithtown: what can I say? Who doesn't know about this place?
Glen's Dinette: the poor service at this place has overwhelmed my memory of the food. One time I observed disgusting, unsanitary practices; the other (going back when it wasn't busy and I thought they'd be more careful) it was almost impossible to get service. No one refilled my coffee or asked how I was--the only time they came over was to take my order (I had to go up to the counter to get a bill--they were busy chatting).
Winnie's in Bay Shore: I had an awesome French-style omelet one day (disappointingly, they absolutely will not make omelets after 11:30). Pancakes didn't impress another time, thought that's more likely my tastes than anything they did (though I don't like sweets, every now and then I'm curious).
Cook Room in Middle Island: very nice omelet and home fries, friendly service. Wish there were more omelet choices, though.
Toast (Huntington): a place I've always been basically OK with. No complaints about what I've had (of course, it's been a while, so I don't REMEMBER any problems)--all well-executed--but I've never oohed about the choices. The "create an omelet" some places, like Toast, do doesn't impress me (It's like they're not trying to be creative), especially when the choices are pedestrian.
Mundays: been quite a while since I've been there; I remember being impressed with the French toast, but I don't recall not much more.
Sweet Mama's in Northport: a thumbs up. Interesting and delicious options, and I like that they put a little pot of coffee on the table so you can refill several cups on your own.
More places to come as I try them, or remember places I've been.
Re Sweet Mama's - I went there for breakfast last summer with the kids. Most everything was pretty good, but I had a god-awful corned beef hash. It was virtually pureed - like dog food consistency. Maureen's is tops - too bad everyone in North America seems to know about it already.
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I don't know that I've ever been pleased with hashes; I make it much better than any place I've been to. I rarely bother to get it.
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Re: Sweet Mamas. Went there last week after a 6th grade graduation for brunch. Disappointing food. Decor is very cute wish we could eat it. All our meals looked scraped together. My pancakes were tasteless, my husbands omelette of sausage and bacon was also tasteless. How is that possible? My daughter's ham looked like boiled ham thrown on the plate and didn't even look cooked. I had 2 pieces of rye toast and they gave me a heel. I don't even eat a heel at home! It wasn't even up to the standard of diner food. And we had to wait for the privilege of eating there. The place was packed nonetheless. Go figure.
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i'm actually surprised at your thomas experience. until i moved, i was a regular there and didn't have any of those problems. the coffee is good, the omelets are good, the specialty waffles, pancakes and french toast are amazing. as far as the refills, they always come before i ask. maybe it's just an off day.
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Had another interesting experience today at Thomas': the couple two tables down complained that one of their coffee cups had lipstick on it. The guy filling the coffee took it away, and brought her coffee *in the same cup*! (I myself saw him do it). The lady told the waitress what had happened and she gave a somewhat indifferent apology.
Another thing: I went up to the register to pay. I added a dollar to the $20 I was handing over and asked for $10 back (thereby including the tip making my change even and simple). The guy tossed the single back, muttered something about "I don't know why you gave me this" and gave me the full change. I started to explain what I'd done, but he turned away.
Considering what a PITA parking is there, I think I'm crossing Thomas' off my list.
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Having an omelet in Cook Room right now. Eggplant, asparagus, tomato, pepper, mozzarella, and probably something I'm forgetting. Very good. Home fries a bit underseasoned but not bad. Service is friendly and attentive.
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I agree with Scott R's assessment of Thomas's (that's how it's spelled on the sign). Highly overrated. I went there on a recommendation and I won't be going back. I found the same indifferent service and the parking is so crazy its not worth it. You'd be better off at almost any other LI diner. And lets not get too crazy about expectations when going to a diner. They're usually OK, but in my opinion, one shouldn't expect gourmet food and stellar service.
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We always go to Thomas' We love it there and never had the problems that you described. Actually, we were less impressed with Maureen's Kitchen- everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Maureen's Kitchen
1 Larson Ave, Smithtown, NY 11787
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RE Mundays in Huntington: The food here is always delicious. Breakfast (omelettes, pancakes and french toast) really stands out. Service is always great, usually experienced middle aged women at breakfast/brunch time. They cleaned the place up a bit but it is still a little dumpy... what can you expect for a local breakfast place? Going for the authentic look I guess. Worth the wait when it's busy.
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JT's in Smithtown. Hopping place for breakfast, has unique menu items and food is always delicious and service is always good. They have a dessert - a homemade "funny bone" - yummy!!
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Is this is?
http://www.jtscornercafe.com/breakfas...
A puzzling menu. Under the "Omelettes" heading is "The Pile: Three buttermilk pancakes, topped with two eggs any style and choice of meat with homefries and choice of toast" and other non-omelette items. And I've never seen "Potato Pancakes" listed with breakfast pancakes I suppose they technically are (pancakes that is, if not breakfast pancakes), but it's still odd.
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Yup, that's it! Delicious, consistently yummy food, attentive service. The menu is puzzling, and it takes me forever to decide, but the payoff is great!
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Gave this a try today:
http://www.bayshorecafe.com/images/Me...
I had the "Wild Forest" frittata, (portobello, porcini, shitake mushrooms ragout, smoked gouda, chives). Though not specified on the menu, it came with home fries and toast. The frittata was quite nice.
As per the menu, the home fries consisted of yukon gold potatoes, "sweet yams" (sweet potatoes, actually), peppers, onions, herbs, and spices. Good, but I wish they were more seasoned (the herbs and spices weren't especially evident). They didn't ask me what sort of toast I wanted (and I didn't specify, as the frittatas, unlike the omelettes, didn't say they came with home fries or toast) and they brought toast that seemed to basically be white, though that's not on the menu and so was likely the "Stone wheat" which would therefore make it a white-wheat mix; unexceptional (I usually don't get toast, as I'm an artisan bread freak and I don't bother unless the toast promises to be really good). The toast came dry, which I prefer, but they didn't provide butter even on the side, which I'd presume most other people would prefer.
My guest had the Verdi omelette (sauteed baby spinach, roasted grape tomatoes, caramelized onions, warm fondue of creamy brie). Also quite good. The sourdough toast ordered with wasn't what I'd have hoped for: I like it with a nice tang, and this sourdough didn't taste much different from a basic yeasted white bread.
Coffee was mediocre. As an unapologetic coffee snob (I roast my own) I've gotten used to less than stellar coffee when I eat out, but this coffee was rather weak (served in clear glass, it almost looked like tea).
The experience was better than what I had at Thomas's (the service MUCH better) and I'd definitely give then another try.
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Their menu looks fairly tasty - I might have to try them. Thanks for the review!
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Went back today and had the "Normandy frittata" (andy boy broccoli, cauliflower, romano cheese, tomato jam), while my guests had the Olive Charred pizza--grilled flat bread, eggs (any style), crumbled chicken sausage, roasted grape tomatoes, monterey jack, and fresh basil--and what I had last time, the Wild Forest frittata. I also ordered a side of their home made herbed chicken sausage.
I think I liked the mushroom frittata better, but not by much, and they were both quite good. The olive charred pizza (yes, listed under "Eggs" on the breakfast side of things) was a massive conglomeration of things: tasty, but way too much for me (overwhelming on quantity and heaviness). The chicken sausage (a flattened patty) was excellent. The potatoes were better than last time, and enjoyable.
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Went to Cornucopia's Noshery last week,
http://cornynosh.com/index2.html
No menu up on the site, but I had a very tasty San Fran omelette (grilled vegetables, avocado, havarti). Thumbs up.
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Back to Jo Jo Apple's today, and I had the spicy corn frittata (I've been there more than once and ordered other things, so it's not like I just get that one item time and again).
Again very tasty, but service was eh. Not unfriendly, just inattentive; never got a refill of my coffee, nor was I ever asked if things were OK--the check was presented without seeing if I wanted anything. Not a great visit, but the food and service was still more enjoyable than my trips to Thomas'.
I also came across the somewhat weirdly named North Shore East Norwich Pancake House
http://eastnorwichpancakehouse.com/Ea...
which seems to be a former IHOP. Reviews, however, seem to be mixed. Any Chowhounders familiar with the place?
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Jo Jo Apples
85 Lido Blvd, Point Lookout, NY 11569
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"I also came across the somewhat weirdly named North Shore East Norwich Pancake House which seems to be a former IHOP. Reviews, however, seem to be mixed. Any Chowhounders familiar with the place?"
Can't help with any breakfast advice, but I've eaten lunch there maybe three times in three years because of a convenient location. I remember it as being fine, not great, but I was always satisfied with the experience vs. expectations.
Regarding it's location, my boss liked the place just a few hundred feet west of there, other side of the gas station, same side of the street, with some outdoor seating. Breakfast unlikely, but one never knows. He said we'll have lunch there soon, so I'll check that out and get the name :-)
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The reappearance of this thread reminds me that I have since tried Messina's Market, the unnamed place I mentioned above. They do serve breakfast and I enjoyed it very much. They have a few indoor tables as well as outdoors.
I'm pretty sure they're also associated with the French bakery/pastry shop, La Bonne Boulangerie, a few doors down.
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It happened again. Back at Jo Jo Apples, and service was clueless. The waitress didn't seem to know that the menu items consisted of and wasn't paying much attention to simple requests. Oh, well. The food's generally been pretty good, but service is all over the place.
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The service at Jo Jo's is always unfriendly, and inattentive , I was there twice and found that out very quickly.
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To be fair, I've had friendly service there more than not ( (though less often has it also been very attentive); I suppose it depends on who you get. The food has, overall, been good--except for that truly horrid "wild" mushroom omelet.
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Finally went to Toast in Port Jefferson. Does this place have *any* connection to the Toast in Huntington? Doesn't seem like it. The place had a better feel (once we moved tables from the loudly yacking woman next to us), and the menu was quite different.
I had an omelet (a special with ingredients I won't dare to try to remember--it's been a week) and it was quite good. The multi-grain toast was one of the few breads I've had out with breakfast that was actually worth it--I'm a bit of a bread snob, I'm afraid.
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Toast in PJ rocks!! Glad I read this thread. I'll go there tomorrow.
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Return to Toast in Port Jeff; they've expanded the place, presumably taking over the space next door.
Had the omelet special, which was good enough if not spectacular. It contained "chicken and pineapple sausage," which proved to be a less than stellar combination (to me, at least). They were parsimonious with the otherwise good home fries. Was there even a quarter-potato's worth? Not sure. No coffee refills were offered; I had to get the attention of the host when he passed by in order to get some.
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I went with 2 friends to a place that I never would have thought would have a great brunch experience, but we did, Jonathan's in Garden City. They have a very nice Sunday brunch menu. Not overly expensive, and a pleasant experience. Service was excellent, and we were there for a long time chatting. We even gave a very large tip because we felt we took up the table for so long.
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i love toast in port jefferson. the graham cracker crusted french toast literally stuffed with peanut butter & half a banana is to die for....if youre going, id wear sweatpants though :)
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OK, once more back to Thomas's Ham & Eggery.
I just don't get it. I really don't. The place is packed--trying to park is an Olympic event, and even when I got there mid-morning on a weekday, I had to wait to be seated (granted, that was due more to inattentiveness from the staff than a line, but it was still pretty filled up).
The omelet I had (an Orleans omelet or something like that: Andouille sausage and other things) was basically OK. Nothing wrong with it, nothing to tell others about. Just... not memorable.
The home fries, on the other hand, were an offense against the Breakfast Gods. Insipid and boring. No little crunchy bits from the griddle, and they had all the taste of plain, boiled potatoes. Lots of pepper couldn't save them.
My guest had an omelet with leeks and what was described as homemade chicken sausage--OK, but not nearly as good as what they make at Yesterday's in Bay Shore.
Coffee was better this time at least, and I actually managed to get refills (a necessity, since the cups are small).
I'd promised myself before that I was crossing Thomas's off the list; now it's a certainty.
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Had breakfast at Glen's Dinette in Babylon, a place I haven't been to in years.
Mediocre at best. The selection is diner-like, though less diverse than a good diner's. Instantly forgettable omelette, home fries on a par with Thomas's (i.e., bland).
Side note: had a GREAT breakfast last weekend on a trip up to Boston:
http://thefriendlytoast.net/
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Breakfast- really, I never get excited about that meal.I just look for 3 criteria 1)nice atmosphere),fresh,3)not crap. I usually go to Williston Park Diner on Hillside or if if I want nostalgia Henry's in Glen Cove
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De gustibus non est disputandum.
It's my favorite meal to eat out. But for any meal, it's only worth eating out if it's worth talking about afterwards. If it's just a matter of filling my stomach there are easier/cheaper ways than going out to eat. I know how to cook, and cook well; for me, going out to eat means having something that takes more time than I want to invest or uses ingredients that aren't convenient to keep around.
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Touché-But I find that more than not-restaurants that I would hope to surprise me -don't
Speaking of Thomas' H&E-It's not worth wasting part of my life to wait on the line.!
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The last few times I didn't wait in line at Thomas's.
... and it still wasn't worth it.
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At Maureen's today; I had... let me think... an omelette with chicken sausage and sliced goat cheese. And other things I can't recall. The goat cheese wasn't chevre (hard to slice, after all) but more mozzarella style.
A very good though not great omelet. The chicken sausage didn't match the outstanding chicken-herb sausage at the recently-departed Yesterday's in Bay Shore, but it was pretty good. Home fries above average (not as good as I've had it there before, but way above Thomas's and Glen's).
Maureen's never blows me away, but for me they're consistently in the top few among LI breakfast places.
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Cornucopia's Noshery in Amityville today. Had a very nice smoked salmon frittata. The home fries were superb, just what I look for, with little crunchy bits and some spiciness.
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I like Thomas's Eggery & Jo Jo's.
What I wasn't a fan of was Bruce's Famous [something] to the Stars in Great Neck (diagonally across from the LIRR station). I got suckered into the "Authentic" belgian waffle. I've been to Belgium & know what a common waffle on the street tastes like - no belgian authenticity here. The wait staff was sad. The highlight was a mini bran muffin on the complimentary pastry plate (think more coffeecake than pastry). The french toast trio was interesting, but cloyingly sweet.
We really enjoyed the sunday brunch @ LL Dent across from Roosevelt Field. Specifically the biscuits & gravy - pretty much the whole time.
Yet to try the simple breakfast fare @ Chat Noir in RVC.
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I didn't see a breakfast menu offered at Chat Noir
http://chatnoirtea.com/
Does it basically consist of the items on the Lunch menu?
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Yes. They open (I think) at 8am or 9am.
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OK, I need ideas for places that aren't listed above. Within 45 minutes of Massapequa/Amityville, if possible.
The criteria:
1) they must do omelets and scrambles, the more creative the better. Pancakes and French toast don't do it for me; eggs on a roll are DEFINITELY out. Don't even get me started on pastries or muffins.
2) not a brunch place. Brunch generally starts too late (I want a place that offers breakfast no later than 9 AM). Also, I'm not looking for lunch-style items (and buffets are, to me, a waste--I won't order enough to justify the buffet price).
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Did you try JT's in Smithtown? I haven't been there in years, so I don't know if it's maintained its breakfast, but I enjoyed it when I was there and it had a fairly creative menu.
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I wasn't taken by the menu. They have two omelet selections, and the rest is "Create your own Omelette" with some pretty mundane choices. I think it's just lazy when a place just lists some standard ingredients and has the customer mix their own.
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Well, I did a "what the heck" and gave JT's a try, and the impression was, overall, favorable.
For one, their website is misleading: the actual menu is different, with more omelet offerings. I had a rather nice veggie omelet, and the home fries were above average--well cooked, and with a little more seasoning they'd have been top-notch.
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Glad you liked it! I haven't been in years, but keep meaning to go back.
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Breakfast at Brownstone's in Amityville, and some of the best home fries I've ever had. Crispy on the outside and nicely seasoned.
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just went here for the first time this morning. i was happy with the breakfast.
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New place! Toast N Jamz Family Kitchen in Williston park
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Toast-N...
cutesy name aside, I've been there once now and it has promise.
After you sit, they give you a little basket of homemade mini-muffins on the table, gratis (for breakfast, anyway). I'm not a sweets person, but they were nice.
My omelet was quite good. Home fries above average: well seasoned, and if the outside had been given a nice crunch, they'd have bordered on superlative. I should have said something, but I told myself I could contact them online (turns out I can't, I don't think).
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You don't tell them to burn them? I always did, when I ate spuds... or did they not get crunch even after telling them to do it?
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I didn't ask.
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Oh, you should! that's how to get the crunchy, brown carmelization.
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Back at Toast and Jamz (third visit), and I wasn't so thrilled. I made sure to ask for the home fries to be made well done, but they certainly were not. Not uncercooked, just with no crust of any sort. Seasoned, yes, but it's the crunchy bits that I look forward to.
Almost as disappointing: my omelet listed eggplant as an ingredient. It had it, but as breaded and fried slices. Yuck; I hadn't even considered that the eggplant would have been made that way. I really dislike breaded/fried foods of any sort.
Here's another thing: I left virtually all of the potatoes on the plate, and picked out all of the fried eggplant and left it alongside. The waiter didn't comment.
I realize I could (arguably, should) have said something, but shouldn't a server have asked?
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I love roasted ratatouille omelets but eggplant cutlet? Bleah, I'm with you! I *only* eat the little crunchy bits, none of the potato, so if I don't ask for them to be left off, I ask them to "burn the potatoes." If that doesn't work, they have no idea how to cook, IMO.
I do think a server should note when most of your food is uneaten, but not necessarily if you ate low carb, which is so common these days... but it would have been nice had he asked if everything were okay, period.
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I did ask them to make the potatoes well-done, so I'd hope they wouldn't think I'd left them because of a low-carb issue--did they think I just wanted to LOOK at well-done home fries? :)
Forgot to post an experience at Jo Jo Apples a few weeks back. For anyone who goes there, DO NOT order the wild mushroom omelet (or something like that--it's from the "Specials" menu). The mushrooms were canned or dried/reconstituted; they had all of the texture of a thin memory foam mattress. I've had fruit leather that was less chewy. Worse, they tasted sour, like white vinegar. Quite possibly, this was the single worst thing I've ever eaten for breakfast.
And it wasn't a fluke: I had the same thing this past spring, with the same results. Why order it twice? Because about four or so months had passed since I'd been there last, and I'd plumb forgotten I'd ordered it back then. One taste and the memories came back. I can't recall *ever* sending an item back and having it replaced with something else. The spicy corn frittata was very good, tho'.
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Place seems to have opened late 2010:
http://long-island.newsday.com/restau...
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"New" as in "new for me."
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Next time you're out this way, try the new Grind Cafe in Wading River (across from the Duck Pond). A great addition to our area.
http://riverheadlocal.com/business-news/2899-the-grind-cafe-in-wading-river-celebrates-grand-opening
I just found more of their menu on their Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...
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Grind Cafe rocks my world. They have a pastrami, egg and cheese sammich on a pretzel roll that is off the charts good. Nice people and a nice cozy space.
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Do they have omelets? A sandwich for breakfast doesn't work for me.
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Don't know about omelettes. I imagine they do. We have had eggs benny and pancakes which were excellent.
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I found their menu (on their Facebook page); no omelets.
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Yesterday they had an omelette special.
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Breakfast at Krysten's Good Eats and Treats,
http://krystensgoodeats.com/
Had a very tasty vegetable omelet, made as more of a mix between omelet and frittata. Packed with the added ingredients but not heavy as a result. Excellent home fries--with those little crunchy bits I like. As a surprise, they asked me if I wanted peppers and onions in my home fries; clearly, this is not a "no changes or substitutions of any kind" sort of place.
Definitely added to my "return" list.
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Today: breakfast at Relish in Kings Park (f/k/a Mrs Brown's). Had the Burlington omelette--
homemade maple turkey sausage, mushrooms, leeks and muenster cheese, Very good. Thumbs up for the home fries: both crunchy and seasoned.
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YUM!
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Breakfast at Bonnie Jean's in Southold and had an Apple and Brie omelet, with nice crunchy & well-seasoned home fries, too. Overall an enjoyable breakfast. Not quite on Relish's level, but very nice nonetheless.
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Bonnie Jean's is very good. It's got a nice old time ice cream parlor thing going on in the Summer too!! One night we stopped in on our way home from dinner in Greenport and had a nice sundae along with a live 3 piece band. Great fun!!
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Sweet Mama's again; I'm putting them firmly in the upper-middle of breakfast places. Competent home fries, if they didn't blow me out of the water; ditto the portabella-blue cheese omelet.
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I tried Milk and Sugar in Bay Shore for the first time and was a little put off.
The omelet (filled with vegetables) was good if not spectacular. That is it wasn't one of those that got me thinking "this is a mighty fine omelet" but I enjoyed it.
But there was a particular downer: the omelets don't come with home fries--at $9.75 you'd think they'd have included that 50 cents worth of potato and onion, but apparently not. So that was another $5.
And they weren't very good. The potatoes were cut up into widely different sized chunks, which means they were cooked to different degrees (yet none if those wonderfully crunchy little bits).
It's strange: home fries are one of the technically easiest bits to make for breakfast but often one of the biggest disappointments.
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Breakfast at Chef's Corner in Mineola,
http://www.thechefscornercafe.com/
(where MUD/Mo'jo used to be).
Definite thumbs up to a nicely-done omelet. Disappointment on the home fries, though. Not nearly as bad as what I'd had at Thomas's, and a step above Toast N Jamz, so OK but not memorable. Once again it was a question of crunchiness; next time, I'll ask for them to be well-done.
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Bruce's in Great Neck has really slipped as far as I'm concerned. It's become a has-been place with the most awful wait-staff imaginable.
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Agreed. Try the Village Market across the street on the corner, wonderful. They will make eggs in any form with any ingredients with or on their own fresh baked breads. The breakfast sandwiches are so big I share one with my daughter. That also ensures we will have room for one of his nice pastries.
http://long-island.newsday.com/shoppi...
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Does the Village Market have seats? The Newsday article seem to imply it's grab-and-go.
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They have two four tops that seat three as it is pushed against the wall and an elevated communal table with six seats. I have never had a problem grabbing a seat. You order at the counter/cashier and they bring the food to you at the table. Coffee is self serve from the urn or juice from the open refrigerator. Sadly, the home fries are never thin and crispy. Make sure to grab a dessert.
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Desserts aren't really my thing.
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Went to Clearwater Charlies in Bellmore by the LIRR. There were 2 things on the breakfast menu available only on the weekends: cinnamon monkey bread (which they didn't have that day) and biscuits & sausage gravy. Let me just say even a KFC biscuit & a jar of supermarket gravy is passable for me. The biscuit was really large, herbed & nicely texured. The sawmill gravy was flavorful & quite peppery with cut up pieces of sausage. The homefries were on the thicker side but had nice browning. Immensely enjoyable & frankly a bargain.
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