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May 2, 2010 03:38 PM

Marin Burger Wars

I have been an In N Out fan for years, but based on the fact that Phyllis's Giant Burgers (PGB) wins the Pacific Sun award for best Marin Burger every year, I decided to go to San Rafael and give it a try.
Two burgers, two onion rings and two small drinks for $26! This was ridiculously overpriced. The burger was boring. It was fine, but nothing special. Big and greasy, with a stale bun, it was lacking in appeal. At In N out, it would cost half this amount and those burgers are addictive and tasty. The only reason to go to PNB: if you have to have onion rings. Although, they also, were nothing special. In N Out wins hands down.

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    1. I don't know how Phyllis's wins any awards - I don't even find their food good (I definitely view their burgers as below average), let alone great. Even though I am a burger-aholic, I completely stopped going to Phyllis's.

      Funny you mention the bun - EVERY time I go to PGB, the buns seems stale. They must order them that way.

      1. I don't think your unhappiness with Phyllis' burger and your preference for In-and-Out (which I will never understand) consitutes a "burger war". There are many good burger joints in Marin, but you won't find them by staying with McDonalds or I&O.

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        1. re: OldTimer


          Where do you go for good burgers in Marin?

          1. re: sfmitch

            Boca Steaks in Ignacio. Superb meat...probably scraps from prime beef for steaks. Only criticism is no flavoring in the meat, but I think that may be can always salt it. Served with duck fat fries. Barney's Burgers in San Rafael...sides are extra but good burger. Il Davide in San Rafael, burger on focaccia with lots of good fries. Some like Marin Joe's...but it is too much bread for me. Last burger I had at Phyllis' was tasty, but a bit greasy.

            Boca Steak
            340 Ignacio Blvd, Novato, CA 94949

            Il Davide
            901 A St Ste E, San Rafael, CA 94901

            1. re: OldTimer

              There is also Weezy's Burgers in Terra Linda, Brick and Bottle in Corte Madera, Balboa Cafe in Mill Valley

              Brick and Bottle
              55 Tamal Vista Blvd, Corte Madera, CA 94925

          2. re: OldTimer

            Pearl's Phat Burger has very good burgers, in the same level (counter service, fast) as In n' Out and Phyllis's so should definitely be considered in any competition that includes those two. They have some interesting choices too- kobe beef, hawaiian burger, etc.

            For more restaurant (not fast-food) burgers, as another poster mentioned- Brick and Bottle has a very tasty pimento cheese burger- very rich but delicious. Balboa Cafe has a good burger, but they use 'nice' buns, which many 'nice' restaurants do, which are too dry and heavy for my taste. Also they have really good sliders at happy hour. Also, if this is really a war, might as well include the burger at Joe's Taco lounge and Marin Brewing Company in the battle. Both are good.

            Pearl's Phat Burgers
            8 E Blithedale Ave, Mill Valley, CA 94941

            Balboa Cafe Mill Valley
            38 Miller Avenue, Mill Valley, CA 94941

            Brick and Bottle
            55 Tamal Vista Blvd, Corte Madera, CA 94925

          3. I definitely don't agree with the negative opinions here about Phyllis's in San Rafael. About the price, they're a half-pound-of-beef burger for $5, extra for extras, and cooked to your specification. Yes, the burgers drip juice like a good burger should. They'll give you sauteed onions on your burger at no extra cost. They're so much larger and better than those tiny In-and-Out fried-to-death fast-food wafers there's no comparison. I don't like the burgers at their newer Novato location as much. They're the ones that seem boring to me; maybe not enough juice dripping :-)

            Caveat... I haven't been in about a year. Did the main cook leave?

            1. Rancho Nicasio puts out a damn fine burger -- though some may question the grilled french bread -- good cole slaw and thick fries accompany.

              Rancho Nicasio Restaurant & Bar
              1 Old Rancheria Rd, Nicasio, CA 94946