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dishwasher1 Apr 25, 2010 08:35 AM

Hi Im coming to SF in a couple of weeks to enjoy some gastro pubs and micro brews. Looking for some suggestions with great food, not the nacho quessadilla type. Any beer bar reccomondations too?

thanks

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    Paperboy415 Apr 26, 2010 12:32 PM

    I am surprised no one has mentioned Public House. James Beard award winner food and 40 beers on tap.... http://www.publichousesf.com/
    or..downtown at the Urban Tavern - great reasonable food, and about 15 beers on tap http://www.urbantavernsf.com/

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    Urban Tavern
    333 O'Farrell St., San Francisco, CA 94102

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      The Dive Apr 26, 2010 12:48 PM

      Have you been to Public House or Urban Tavern? What did you eat/drink? I haven't seen much written up on either place.

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      Urban Tavern
      333 O'Farrell St., San Francisco, CA 94102

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        chuckl Apr 26, 2010 12:56 PM

        Actually, someone did mention Public House: me. scroll up a little. It's got a very good selection of beers on tap (24) and bottles (24). It's a bit pricey, but has the unique advantage of being able to take beer from the pub into the park for a baseball game. Food is decent. Mac n cheese, which is a holdover from Acme, is very good as a $5 appetizer. Good steak sandwich. Mojito is connected for small bites of tacos and so forth.

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          nsheth Apr 27, 2010 02:10 PM

          You can get take beers from Public House into the ballpark?

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            chuckl Apr 27, 2010 04:11 PM

            yes, sir, Have them pour it in a plastic cup and enter through the turnstile from the pub to the park. You can even have your hand and ticket stamped and come back out for more beer and bring it back to your seat. Same goes for wine and mixed drinks

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              nsheth Apr 28, 2010 11:40 AM

              Awesome, will keep that in mind for future games! Beats the ballpark selection!

    2. BernalKC Apr 26, 2010 07:56 AM

      These two might not fit you criteria exactly. They are beer retailers with a tasting room. But they are noteworthy for anyone interested in local craft beers.

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      City Beer Store
      1168 Folsom St, San Francisco, CA 94103

      Beer Revolution
      464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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        Robert Lauriston Apr 26, 2010 09:52 AM

        I'd call Beer Revolution a bar. They have off-sale but it's a big place and most of the customers are hanging out drinking.

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        Beer Revolution
        464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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          mightylittle Apr 26, 2010 10:06 AM

          I'd also call Beer Revolution mostly disappointing. It has all the charm of a frat house. Some nice brews for sale out of the coolers, but the tap beer didn't do it for me.

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          Beer Revolution
          464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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            Robert Lauriston Apr 26, 2010 10:14 AM

            Beer Revolution's deck is great on a sunny afternoon. Great selection of Belgian bottles in the coolers.

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            Beer Revolution
            464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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              chuckl Apr 26, 2010 10:32 AM

              this is what beer revolution had Sunday:
              Hebrew Origin,Abita Double IPA, Lost abbey Red Barn, Halfmoon Bay Moonglow Barley Wine, Ale Industries Fuzzy Sno-beck, Bison Chocolate Stout, 6 Rivers IPA, Sonoma Mtn Wheat, Port Hop15, Dempsey's Pale Bock, Lost Abbey Angel's share, Linden S...treet Black, Drakes Black Robusto! Long Live Beer!

              you'd have to be pretty picky not to find something you like among those taps. When were you last there? You go to beer bars for charm? The best beer bars and stores, like Toronado, Barclays, Ben and Nicks, Zeitgeist, Bistro, City Beer have next to no "charm." You can keep the charm, I'd prefer good beer reasonably priced and maybe some decent food too.

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                mightylittle Apr 26, 2010 03:40 PM

                Toronado and Zeitgeist have ample charm if you ask me. At least they're not over-lit with fluorescent lights. That was the killer. I want my drinking establishments to go easy on the lighting! Toronado and Zeitgeist are at least pleasantly lit...and seriously Toronodao, aside from the occasional attitude from the staff has great charm.

                Though I agree with Robert, Beer Revolution is best on the patio. Last time I was there was maybe 6 or 8 weeks ago on a Friday, early evening, maybe 15-20 people inside. While I don't disagree that the selection is good (esp. in the bottles...) the tap system did not offer what I thought was well kept beer.

                Not that I won't be back - it's a cool location, and when the whether is right, that patio is pretty nice.

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                Beer Revolution
                464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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                  chuckl Apr 26, 2010 03:53 PM

                  the tap system did not offer what I thought was well kept beer.

                  can you be more specific? are you saying the lines were dirty? I've had several beers there and they were all very clean and fresh. And the Allagash Black I had there was really good.

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                    mightylittle Apr 27, 2010 05:47 PM

                    less the taps then the drinking vessels. i'm partial to glassware (this goes for wine, water, beer, anything you drink) that has been forcefully cleansed in a mechanical warewasher.

                    the three compartment sink system may be satisfactory for a bar serving well-drinks but any residual soap, quaternary sanitizer or less than fresh rinse water pretty much ruins the concept of a fine beer in my book.

                    the two pints i had on my last visit were from glassware that was not up to the task. and while i cannot say whether or not the actual storage of beer and upkeep of tap lines contributed to the off flavors, in general it was not an ideal situation.

                    call me a snob if you like, but i like my glassware sparkling clean.

                    like i said, not that i won't be back. could be an operational issue that has been mitigated...i certainly support folks trying to bring the best suds to the neighborhood.

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                      chuckl Apr 27, 2010 10:20 PM

                      I can't disagree with you about the glassware, it should be clean, otherwise what's the point. But I think the owners would appreciate hearing about your experience. They're trying really hard to do the right thing and are pretty snobby themselves about the beer being right. Maybe I'll see you there at some point.

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                        mightylittle Apr 28, 2010 10:09 AM

                        if you see someone debating the owners on their glasswashing methods, it might be me!

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                          chuckl Apr 28, 2010 10:50 AM

                          go for it, everyone will be the better for it. Meanwhile, I'll pay closer attention to the glassware

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                The Dive Apr 26, 2010 10:47 AM

                I think Beer Revolution has a really interesting tap list -- great focus on local beers that you don't necessarily see elsewhere.

                Personally, I think the best food-and-beer combo is Luka's in Oakland or La Trappe in SF. But I would definitely consider a Trappist-and-Beer Revoluation trip, followed by food at a nearby restaurant, as Robert suggests.

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                La Trappe
                800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

                Beer Revolution
                464 3rd St, Oakland, CA 94607

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                  chuckl Apr 26, 2010 11:29 AM

                  from what I've heard from my veggie friends in the East Bay, Soully Vegan right next door is quite good, and they deliver

          2. bbulkow Apr 25, 2010 10:33 PM

            There have been many mentions, but your focus on food has buried the recommendation for the best beer in SF - The Tornado. They just have the best beer, period.

            21st Amendment has only average beer and average food.
            La Trappe is worth a visit.
            Monk's Kettle is worth a visit.

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            La Trappe
            800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

            The Monk's Kettle
            3141 16th St, San Francisco, CA 94103

            1. Robert Lauriston Apr 25, 2010 11:34 AM

              Magnolia Pub, Luka's Taproom in Oakalnd.

              Don't miss the Trappist. Their food menu is very limited (cheese, cold cuts, panini) but there are many good restaurants within a few blocks, e.g. Shanghai, B Restaurant, Battambang, Spices!3.

              I see that 21st Amendment has radically changed its menu yet again so I guess my last report is out of date.

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              Luka's Taproom
              2221 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612

              Shanghai Restaurant
              930 Webster St, Oakland, CA 94607

              Battambang
              850 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94607

              Spices 3
              369 12th St, Oakland, CA 94607

              The Trappist
              460 8th Street, Oakland, CA

              La Trappe
              800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

              B Restaurant & Bar
              499 9th St, Oakland, CA 94607

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                vulber Apr 25, 2010 10:10 PM

                also consider the alembic, despite being owned by the same people as magnolia, their food is way better and you can get a few of the magnolia beers there

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                bobpantzer Apr 25, 2010 11:34 AM

                The Tipsy Pig on Chestnut in San Francisco. Not a gastropub, maybe, but Delarosa just down the street from the Tipsy Pig has about 15 beers or more on tap and excellent food.

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                Tipsy Pig
                2231 Chestnut Street, San Francisco, CA 94123

                Delarosa
                2175 Chestnut St, San Francisco, CA 94123

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                  TenderNob Apr 25, 2010 11:25 AM

                  For lots of beer choices, try Jack's at the Cannery on Fisherman's Wharf. 68 taps at last count. Food is available, but I haven't tried it; probably Wharf standard.

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                    chuckl Apr 25, 2010 11:04 AM

                    La Trappe is very good, Belgian style beers and food to match, a little pricey. Monk's Kettle on 16th near Valencia is very good and should be on the top of your list. The pot pies are really good, the tap selection is solid and lots of bottles. Rosamunde on Mission between 24th and 25th should also be on your list. Great sausages and other dishes, 22 well selected taps and a really nice space. Toronado has some of the best taps in the bay area, and although they don't serve food themselves, you're welcome to bring in food from the neighborhood. There's a small Rosamunde with sausages right next door and Memphis Minnie BBQ across the street is really tasty. Even Chow has some pretty good food and beer taps. 21A is just ok. Beer is decent and food is alright, not great. Best choices are the burger and the individual pizzas. Even better is the new Public House next to AT&T. 24 taps, some really tasty food (mac and cheese). For more in-depth reports, check out allbrews.blogspot.com.
                    Will you just be in SF? any particular neighborhood? Suffice to say, there's lots of options to fit just about any food style or taste.

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                    La Trappe
                    800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

                    The Monk's Kettle
                    3141 16th St, San Francisco, CA 94103

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                      Zack H Apr 25, 2010 10:13 AM

                      La Trappe in North Beach has a great selection of beers, Belgian and otherwise. Their menu is Belgian-influenced as well (moules frites, rabbit stew, etc.) but diverse and delicious.

                      21st Amendment in SoMa (by the ballpark) is a more traditional brewpub, with their own tasty brews on tap. I've only had a burger there, which was very good, but the rest of the menu looks promising.

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                      La Trappe
                      800 Greenwich St, San Francisco, CA 94133

                      21st Amendment Brewery Cafe
                      563 2nd St, San Francisco, CA 94107

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