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Need 1 more recommendation for a coffee shop/diner in Santa Monica

Since you were all so great for my last pleas of recommendations, i figured i would see what you can come up with for this. I need to find a casual coffee shop or diner type place for 6 people on a Tuesday afternoon at 3p where we can all sit together for about an hour. Not sure we will even order food- just a casual sit down.

Thanks again!

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  1. Izzy's Deli (since you say you might not eat) would do the job.

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    Izzy's Deli
    1433 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403

    1. Snug Harbor maybe?

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      Snug Harbor
      2323 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403

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      1. re: Drehound

        I love Sung Harbor but it closes at 3pm.

          1. re: yummyinmytummy

            Yes, like them. Has anyone rec'd Panera on 4th & WIlshire??

            1. re: yummyinmytummy

              Second Le Grande Orange. The coffee's good and they bake everything there including their english muffins.

            2. Nichols Restaurant in Marina Del Rey might be what you're looking for. Good food.
              4375 Glencoe Ave
              Marina Del Rey, CA 90292

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              1. re: wienermobile

                according to original post, they don't care about the food, probably will not even order food, just want a place to take a table and work.
                they are looking to rent a workspace for the price of a cup of coffee.

                1. re: westsidegal

                  Agreed. As a former server, I can say I'd be less than thrilled to have a group of 6 sit in my section to order water and coffee.

                  So, I'd recommend an actual coffee shop that doesn't have servers. Urth Caffe on main street has indoor and outdoor seating, good coffees, teas, and food if you want it.

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                  Urth Caffe
                  267 S Beverly Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90212

                  1. re: Azizeh

                    Unless you had little to no business during a particular time of day. In that case you might be glad of whatever you could get (and I'm sure the restaurant ownership would prefer something in the till than nada).

                    1. re: Servorg

                      Eh. During that slow time is usually when we'd have to do a ton of side work so we could go home before the dinner staff came in. So, in most cases, I'd probably rather pass.

                      I'm not a restaurant owner, nor did I work at a slow place that was hanging on by a thread, so I was only speaking for myself.

                      1. re: Servorg

                        Yes, SO, true. And most decent people will tip those who only serve them coffee, or will clean their tables, etc, even if they don't actually order food, but realize they are taking up space in an otherwise empty establishment.

                        1. re: Phurstluv

                          <<taking up space in an otherwise empty establishment>>
                          does not help in meeting any of the fixed costs nor the variable costs of the establishment.
                          it only precludes any PAYING customers from taking up said space.
                          shills have very limited value when you are trying to make rent. . . .

                      2. re: Azizeh

                        And that's why I mentioned Starbucks as a rec. A group of six taking up space at an independent isn't going to do the establishment any good. Starbucks is the new livlng room, meeting room and home office of the 21st century. They're used to this and if the group at least orders a round of something, that's cool by them.

                          1. re: bulavinaka

                            even starbucks is trying to get this kind of customer to move on.
                            they have reduced the size and comfort of their seating arrangements.
                            they've actually figured out that they aren't benefiting by providing workspace for the price of a cup of coffee. . .

                            1. re: westsidegal

                              Geez - it's about time. Most of these coffee houses that offer wireless have become havens for these types. It's almost impossible nowadays to walk in without tripping over a power cord, only to have some shill scream, "Hey! Be careful - you almost knocked my laptop off MY table!" My usual response is, "Your table? Your table is at your home, and you'd better talk to the manager here about who's going to get sued after I trip over YOUR cord."

                              1. re: bulavinaka

                                there are some starbucks (think the one across the street from westside pavilion) that are saddled with folks who show up at the morning opening and don't leave until closing.
                                they sit there all day, getting reduced rates on their refills, never even ordering a pastry, and taking up the space that all the rest of us (real paying customers) could be using.
                                this is not a good business model. . . .
                                i would love to go there as a break in my shopping, but won't fight the guy with the laptop who has taken up residence. . .

                                1. re: westsidegal

                                  Then it's up to the management to say something to them. If they don't they are encouraging the problem.

                                2. re: bulavinaka

                                  Good comeback, Bula! I like it. will have to remember that one.

                                  1. re: bulavinaka

                                    LOL! Thanks, bula - that cheered me up.

                              2. re: Azizeh

                                Second that, as another former server.

                            2. Swingers on Broadway could work...

                              1. Starbucks can afford it - but barely. :)

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                                1. re: bulavinaka

                                  Peets on Montana Ave or go to the Brentwood Country Mart

                                  1. re: maudies5

                                    the peets near me has reduced the size of their tables to avoid being used as rent-free short term office space.

                                    1. re: westsidegal

                                      Peet's is almost always impossible to get a table at. The one on Montana is crowded with the same people I see all the time. There's one woman who hangs out there literally every single day for hours.

                                      The last time I tried to go to the one in Brentwood, same situation. It was wall to wall laptops inside and outside. Couldn't get a seat (was planning on having a friend meet me) so I just went down the street to coffee bean. I'm curious how many people see they can't have a place to sit and leave.

                                      1. re: Azizeh

                                        it truly is amazing the sense of entitlement that some people have as a result of buying a cup of coffee.
                                        in one of the coffee houses in santa monica (i believe the novel) some woman shows up every day and sets "her" table up to sell jewelry all day long. meanwhile the owners of the coffeehouse probably have signed a ten year lease with a personal guarantee. . .

                                        to keep this thread on track, the pastries they sell there are very good, but the cappucino is watery.

                                2. not samo exactly, but a bit west up wilshire is Literati... easy to order drinks or food or a combo or one and not the other...

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                                  1. re: Emme

                                    My husband had to come up with the exact same venue last month for a group powwow and they went to Coogies on Santa Monica Blvd,, near Yale St. They spent two hours there and ordered a bit of food but were not rushed and were able to have a productive meeting - since food is secondary to locale, this might work for all of you. Good luck!

                                    1. Wow, didn't mean to set off such a firestorm of debate. I agree with a lot of people that it is wrong to go into a real restaurant where waiters/waitresses rely on tips (a factor of how much is spent by the customer) and order 6 coffees and nothing else and sit there for 1 hour. I am looking for a Starbucks like place that isn't entirely mobbed at 3p, where we can linger until it gets crowded. It's a meeting before a bigger meeting. I will check out the recs. I wanted to avoid Starbucks because it's such a crapshoot with seating.

                                      1. do you think Daily Grill would be good? It's near the office where the meeting is.

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                                        1. re: offthebeatenpath1

                                          Are you talking about the one on Colorado Ave. in Santa Monica or the one on San Vicente in Brentwood? The Santa Monica one has a large bar area that would probably work fine and you wouldn't even be taking up any "dining table" space.

                                        2. Here's a suggestion that I don't think anyone has thought of - Broadway Deli. At the entrance to the restaurant there is a casual seating area for people who are just having coffee or pastries. I usually see tourists occupying this area.

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                                          Broadway Deli
                                          1457 3rd Street Promenade, Santa Monica, CA 90401

                                          1. There's also Panera; not the best coffee in the world, but there are tables there that are larger than Starbuck's . There's one on Wilshire and 5th or 6th, and one in the Marina on Lincoln Blvd just south of Mindanao.

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                                            1. re: Michelly

                                              The Bookmark Cafe inside the Santa Monica Public Library courtyard -

                                              Also, the library has free wifi & private meeting rooms upstairs that can be reserved in blocks.

                                              601 Santa Monica Blvd.
                                              Santa Monica, CA 90025
                                              (310) 587-2665