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torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 11:47 AM

My husband and I are planning a long-weekend (5 day) visit to New York City at the end of May (from Toronto). Though we plan to do lots of touristy things (museums, shopping, etc.) one of our main interests is food. We hope to hit a few upscale restaurants for dinner (hopefully not pretentious -- just really excellent food), as well as hit some cheap and cheerful/ethnic/etc. places. We have pretty broad interests when it comes to food.

I haven't had a chance to do any thorough restaurant research yet on this board (though certainly will be) but was hoping for a bit of assistance in deciding where to stay, as I'd like to book the trip within the next day or two. We're considering staying in Midtown (Murray Hill, perhaps). Would this be a good home base for a culinary tour of NYC? If not, any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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    kathryn RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 12:18 PM

    Midtown/Murray Hill would not be as convenient to dining hot spots and cheap/non-Western ethnic mom and pop restaurants (although Hell's Kitchen has a good number of spots and there are a bunch of Japanese restaurants in Midtown East).

    If your main interest is eating at the "foodie" establishments, I would recommend staying south of 14th Street (but above Canal). However, midtown is much more convenient to the Natural History museum, MoMA, The Met (opera), the Met (museum), Central Park, Grand Central, Times Square, and 5th Ave/department stores.

    There are some great restaurants in Midtown and north of midtown but I would say that they are more densely clustered together in Soho, West Village, East Village, Lower East Side, etc.

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      orthorunner RE: kathryn Apr 21, 2010 08:27 PM

      On first thought, my reaction was much the same as the other posters: Murray Hill is one of the least foodie neighborhoods around. However, if you are just here for 5 days, it actually could work out decently well if you want to be close to a few good spots as well as museums. There are some excellent options within (longish) walking distance: the Modern, Convivio, and Aquavit, among others. Less excellent ethnic options-you would be near Curry Hill, but most of the places there are somewhat mediocre. However, across town in Hells Kitchen there are some excellent possibilities. IN reverse, you could stay in one of the newer boutique hotels in Hells Kitchen (Midtown West) a bit away from Times Square (avoid! avoid!) and be closer to ethnic spots/farther from some of the higher end places, though you would be near Col's Circle with Per Se.
      Downtown has a greater number of excellent foodie options: East Village with a slew of good ethnic/inexpensive spots, West Village with more classic options, and many higher end places interspersed. However, they are farther from most of the museums or other traditional tourist options. You would need to weigh this accordingly.
      In the end, no matter where you stay, the subway system is relatively efficient. Keep in mind however, that it is much easier to travel north/south than east/west; ie, it is often easier to either stay mainly on the east or mainly on the west side.
      Enjoy the planning!

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      10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

      Convivio
      45 Tudor City Place, New York, NY 10017

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        torontofoodiegirl RE: orthorunner Apr 21, 2010 09:35 PM

        Many thanks to everyone for their suggestions so far. It's very helpful to know that travel is easier from north to south than east to west.

        We'll be somewhat restricted by budget -- we're not looking for somewhere super-cheap, but not the Plaza or Four Seasons either. Most of the mid-range options seem to be in midtown (and it's possible that that's where we may end up), but I'm now eyeing a few in Chelsea and the Upper West Side as well.

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        The Four Seasons
        99 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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          torontofoodiegirl RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 23, 2010 01:28 PM

          We're booked in Tribeca. Thanks everyone for your help!

    2. princeofpork RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 12:30 PM

      The "foodie" places and cheap eats are so spread out and very few are by the museums. I would pick the best hotel deal you can get and just travel from there.

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        Ann900 RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 01:06 PM

        Murray Hill may be one of the least foodie neighborhoods in the city- - not a great choice of restaurants or food stores. I would also avoid the theater district - Times Sq area unless you want to be in an area crammed with mostly tourists (or if, for example, your first choice if you were a tourist in Toronto would be to stay in the Eaton Center) You're much better off in downtown nabs like Tribeca, the West Village or Chelsea. Many of the museums, theater district and other places you probably want to visit are no more than a 20 minutes subway ride away.

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          mjm1218 RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 04:21 PM

          Hi. Im not sure what your price range or what kind of hotel you're wanting to stay at.... but maybe the ganseevort or the standard in the meatpacking district would be good. There are plenty of nice restaurants (none of them are the top 5, but some are certainly in the top 20 or 25) and its a pretty hip and young neighborhood.

          if this trip is intended to be really high end (both interms of hotel and restaurants) i think the Mandarin Oriental at columbus circle would be appropriate. Its right above per se(arguably best restaurant in the city) and is across the street from jean georges (probably a top 5) and is near le bernardin (a top 5).

          also, if a high end hotel is your preference, there are plenty of old fashion hotels along central park south including the plaza. The four seasons is beautiful (never been to the one in the city but have been to the restaurant there - l'atelier de joel robuchon[which is great]) but is hundreds of dollars.

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            mjm1218 RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 04:26 PM

            i agree with Ann.

            1. The Chowhound Team RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 07:03 PM

              Folks, Please remember to keep the focus on places to dine. Lodging and sights are off topic. Thanks very much.

              1. phohead RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 21, 2010 09:04 PM

                I think if I was visiting I would stay somewhere in the West Village. There are many very top of the line restaurants and you would be in decent walking & subway distance to a lot more "hardcore" foodie areas such as chinatown and the lower east side! Enjoy your visit!

                1. Motosport RE: torontofoodiegirl Apr 23, 2010 02:02 PM

                  With regard to hotel location: We live in Murray Hill and while it may not be in the thick of things, which I consider an advantage, but it is close to Grand Central where you can get several subway lines plus the shuttle to the West side. As for restaurants, Chowhound can be a wealth of information and inspiration.

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                    2961883 RE: torontofoodiegirl May 12, 2010 09:47 AM

                    hey there torontofoodiegirl, I too am from toronto and going to NYC myself in May, I done some research myself as well and made an on going google map. feel free to take a look. hope you'll find it useful.

                    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF...

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                      kathryn RE: 2961883 May 12, 2010 10:15 AM

                      Hey, nice work! I would note that the square donuts at Donut Plant are fluffy but also a bit chewy, whereas the round ones are more moist and cakey. (I actually prefer the cake donuts). I believe Jane's french toast is only on weekends. Abraco's hours are now 8-4 Tuesday through Saturday, and 9-4 on Sundays, closed Mondays. Also I think Il Laboratorio closes at like 5 or 6pm (early).

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                      86 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

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                        torontofoodiegirl RE: 2961883 May 20, 2010 07:43 AM

                        That's an amazing map...you are wayyyy better prepared than I am.

                        Thanks, and thanks to everyone for your advice.

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                          masha bousha RE: 2961883 May 20, 2010 10:10 AM

                          I LOVE that I'm not the only person who, when traveling to NYC, makes a Google Map of food joints. My friends have laughed at me for that but they thank me when I take them all over to have a great weekend of EATING!

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                            unturtlesoup RE: 2961883 Jun 1, 2010 12:52 PM

                            thanks for the food-sleuthing! We're also from Toronto, headed to NYC, but for a month in June, so I may make good headway on that map of yours...love the concise notes on each location.
                            Alas, I need to improve my googlemap skills :)

                          2. sgordon RE: torontofoodiegirl May 12, 2010 10:19 AM

                            Murray Hill is convenient enough, although the East side in general suffers from only having one subway line, so you're likely going to be making transfers to get where you're going. You'd be in walking distance of few destinations - 11MP, Tabla, Shake Shack are all around Madison Square Park, an easy walk on a nice day. And there's great shopping for foodie stuff to take home with you - Kalustyan's is legendary for their selection of esoteric herbs, spices, etc.

                            There's no ONE ultimate foodie neighborhood in the city - as many have said, it's pretty spread out. That said, your highest concentration of foodie destinations (of varying price points - not just haute fancy places) I think most people would agree is the Lower East Side / East Village. Now, cue 50 people disagreeing with that statement...

                            Plus, if you're in that 'hood, you'll have Chinatown just South of you, and with five days you ought to fit in at least one dinner at one of the better restos down there.

                            But it's an easy city to get around, so where you want to eat shouldn't determine where you stay - go wherever is cheap, and not totally out of the way. Save your money for the food. The LES/EV is probably fairly high in terms of price, but now and then some of the hotels down there offer deals. Doesn't hurt to price them - The Hotel on Rivington, The Thompson & The Blue Moon are all in the heart of things. I'm sure there are many others, I just don't know them off the top of my head.

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                              rrems RE: sgordon May 12, 2010 05:33 PM

                              OP has posted above (on April 12) that they have decided to stay in Tribeca.

                            2. Motosport RE: torontofoodiegirl May 12, 2010 02:46 PM

                              For an excellent creative breakfast walk down Lex to Penelope on 30th.
                              For a great basic inexpensive breakfast cross Lex and walk up to Scotty's Diner just off 39th.

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                              Scotty's Diner
                              336 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

                              1. Miss Needle RE: torontofoodiegirl Jun 1, 2010 02:09 PM

                                Well, the OP has come and gone. But just want to give my two cents. Even though the neighborhood is kind of blah and lacking quite a bit of charm, I think the Bryant Park area would be a great place to stay because it is so conveniently located. There's a Marriott on 39th St and 6th Ave. So many subway lines pass through there that it's easy to get around anywhere. The 7 train is right there and links you to some of the most diverse "ethnic" restaurants. And the LIRR is not far away where you can catch a 20-minute ride to Flushing/Murray Hill (not to be confused with the Manhattan one) for some really great Korean and Chinese food. And if you want something right near your hotel, you've got a few decent options right there -- Szechuan Gourmet, Koreatown, Aureole, Sushi Zen, DB Bistro.

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                                Szechuan Gourmet
                                21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

                                Sushi Zen
                                108 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

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