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shafalfa Apr 15, 2010 02:39 PM

One cool meal in SF and one mind blower in Napa

I know all you local Chow Hounders are saying "yeah yeah this isn't the millionth time we've had this post" but I will simplify it down, and many many thanks in advance.

In SF I am looking for a place not too formal with amazing food (obviously) where I will be surrounded by fellow locals like yourself, a place where you would be on a Friday night if you had the choice. I don't mind spending the money for great food but I love a lively ambience as opposed to quiet and formal.

In Napa (and i open it up to the surrounding areas) It will be my wedding anniversary and I would love a place that is elegant with beautiful natural surroundings and mind blowing food(and by the way TFL is booked solid). I don't believe the food has to be complexed to be amazing but not opposed if it all combines together for an amazing night out. I was thinking of Bottega or La Toque but I was interested in locals infinite knowledge.
Also a casual dinner amongst locals in Napa for an off night.
I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

S

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Bottega
6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

La Toque Restaurant
1314 McKinstry Street, Napa, CA 94559

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    spammella Apr 20, 2010 05:41 PM

    Martini House, Jole in Calistoga, or Cindy's. Bottega isn't all that great and the service is a bit snooty. Martini House is pretty and has the best service, tied very closely with Cindy's unless Michael Hill is serving you, then you cannot get better in Napa.

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    Martini House
    1245 Spring St., St. Helena, CA 94574

    Bottega
    6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

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      whiner Apr 20, 2010 01:10 PM

      In SF...

      In rough descending order:

      Perbacco
      NOPA
      A16
      Delfina

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      Perbacco
      230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

      A16
      2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

      Delfina Restaurant
      3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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        shafalfa Apr 20, 2010 02:04 PM

        thanks everyone for your help, I appreciate it.

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        vulber Apr 19, 2010 11:22 PM

        As much as I wish Ubuntu were tucked away on some remote road in the middle of nowhere surrounded by pristine forests, it's unfortunately in downtown Napa, which is pretty bleh, and lacks the "beautiful natural surroundings"

        Haven't been to Meadowood, but from what I hear, it'd seem to fit what you want.

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        Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
        1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

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          wanderlust21 Apr 19, 2010 02:18 PM

          I was in the area a few weeks ago and join the chorus that Ubuntu's food remains at a high standard (despite the change in chefs).

          We also had a very nice meal at Bottega, not necessarily mind blowing, but very solid cooking with excellent service. I will definitely return, but for your purposes, I'd imagine that Cyrus would better fit the bill.

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          Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
          1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

          Bottega
          6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

          1. ThirstyReader Apr 15, 2010 10:25 PM

            If you want a certified "mind blower" and you can't go to TFL (but you tried), then the obvious Plan B is Meadowood in Napa (or Cyrus in Healdsburg).

            www.thirstyreader.com

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              JasmineG Apr 15, 2010 10:35 PM

              Yes, agreed. I think that the suggestion of Ubuntu for your casual night in Napa is a good one, and I'd add Ad Hoc to that. For San Francisco for your lively meal, I'd say Frances, Delfina, Flour + Water, Fish and Farm, or Nopa

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              Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
              1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

              Ad Hoc
              6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

              Delfina Restaurant
              3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

              Nopa
              560 Divisadero St, San Francisco, CA 94117

              Fish and Farm
              339 Taylor Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                RichInMV Apr 16, 2010 10:56 AM

                My wife and I just had lunch last weekend at Ubuntu, and I can affirm that the food still stands up to previous reports - the only problem we saw was an inexperienced server, but the other servers were very professional and covered for her. I think it's an interesting and innovative place, and it still seems to be holding up the quality level in the kitchen.

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                Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
                1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

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                  estnet Apr 19, 2010 08:30 PM

                  Just ate at flour/water and wasn't that impressed. Certainly lively - but I HIGHLY prefer A16 for food :) If you want REALLY lively the bar at A16 has always been hopping when I've been there (usually early on a Sunday evening)

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                  A16
                  2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

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                  skwid Apr 20, 2010 11:17 AM

                  For mind blowing I'd probably recommend Meadowood since The French Laundry is not available. If you want something a bit more relaxed then hit Solbar at the Solage Resort just south of Calistoga.

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                  The French Laundry
                  6640 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

                3. bbulkow Apr 15, 2010 08:55 PM

                  casual napa: Ubuntu. Reports of the kitchen without Fox have been trickling in, and are generally positive.

                  Otherwise, yes, please tell us what worked for you last time.

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                  Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
                  1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

                  1. Scott M Apr 15, 2010 05:21 PM

                    Bottega reviews have been mixed. La Toque would be a good option as well as the following:

                    Redd
                    Solbar
                    Bardessono
                    Auberge du Soleil

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                    La Toque Restaurant
                    1314 McKinstry Street, Napa, CA 94559

                    Bardessono
                    6526 Yount Street, Yountville, CA 94599

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                      Scott M Apr 15, 2010 05:26 PM

                      Adding more links

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                      Auberge Du Soleil
                      180 Rutherford Hill Rd., Rutherford, CA 94573

                      Solbar
                      755 Silverado Trail, Calistoga, CA

                      Redd
                      6480 Washington St, Yountville, CA 94599

                    2. wolfe Apr 15, 2010 04:04 PM

                      What did you like last time? Happy 3rd anniversary.
                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3992...

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                        shafalfa Apr 16, 2010 01:31 AM

                        Hey Wolfe, thank you, yes it is my third anniversary and we are revisiting our old stomping ground. We went to Cindys Backstreet Kitchen for lunch the day before our wedding and it was fantastic and after our wedding we hired out a room at First Crush in SF which someone mentioned on here, that was fun, the food was alright but the place was lively. Overall we decided to get married and planned it in 5 days and it was a wonderful experience.

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