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I know all you local Chow Hounders are saying "yeah yeah this isn't the millionth time we've had this post" but I will simplify it down, and many many thanks in advance.

In SF I am looking for a place not too formal with amazing food (obviously) where I will be surrounded by fellow locals like yourself, a place where you would be on a Friday night if you had the choice. I don't mind spending the money for great food but I love a lively ambience as opposed to quiet and formal.

In Napa (and i open it up to the surrounding areas) It will be my wedding anniversary and I would love a place that is elegant with beautiful natural surroundings and mind blowing food(and by the way TFL is booked solid). I don't believe the food has to be complexed to be amazing but not opposed if it all combines together for an amazing night out. I was thinking of Bottega or La Toque but I was interested in locals infinite knowledge.
Also a casual dinner amongst locals in Napa for an off night.
I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

S

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Bottega
6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

La Toque Restaurant
1314 McKinstry Street, Napa, CA 94559

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  1. What did you like last time? Happy 3rd anniversary.
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/3992...

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    1. re: wolfe

      Hey Wolfe, thank you, yes it is my third anniversary and we are revisiting our old stomping ground. We went to Cindys Backstreet Kitchen for lunch the day before our wedding and it was fantastic and after our wedding we hired out a room at First Crush in SF which someone mentioned on here, that was fun, the food was alright but the place was lively. Overall we decided to get married and planned it in 5 days and it was a wonderful experience.

    2. Bottega reviews have been mixed. La Toque would be a good option as well as the following:

      Redd
      Solbar
      Bardessono
      Auberge du Soleil

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      La Toque Restaurant
      1314 McKinstry Street, Napa, CA 94559

      Bardessono
      6526 Yount Street, Yountville, CA 94599

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      1. re: Scott M

        Adding more links

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        Auberge Du Soleil
        180 Rutherford Hill Rd., Rutherford, CA 94573

        Solbar
        755 Silverado Trail, Calistoga, CA

        Redd
        6480 Washington St, Yountville, CA 94599

      2. casual napa: Ubuntu. Reports of the kitchen without Fox have been trickling in, and are generally positive.

        Otherwise, yes, please tell us what worked for you last time.

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        Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
        1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

        1. If you want a certified "mind blower" and you can't go to TFL (but you tried), then the obvious Plan B is Meadowood in Napa (or Cyrus in Healdsburg).

          www.thirstyreader.com

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          1. re: ThirstyReader

            Yes, agreed. I think that the suggestion of Ubuntu for your casual night in Napa is a good one, and I'd add Ad Hoc to that. For San Francisco for your lively meal, I'd say Frances, Delfina, Flour + Water, Fish and Farm, or Nopa

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            Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
            1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

            Ad Hoc
            6476 Washington St., Yountville, CA 94599

            Delfina Restaurant
            3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

            Nopa
            560 Divisadero St, San Francisco, CA 94117

            Fish and Farm
            339 Taylor Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

            1. re: JasmineG

              My wife and I just had lunch last weekend at Ubuntu, and I can affirm that the food still stands up to previous reports - the only problem we saw was an inexperienced server, but the other servers were very professional and covered for her. I think it's an interesting and innovative place, and it still seems to be holding up the quality level in the kitchen.

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              Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
              1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

              1. re: JasmineG

                Just ate at flour/water and wasn't that impressed. Certainly lively - but I HIGHLY prefer A16 for food :) If you want REALLY lively the bar at A16 has always been hopping when I've been there (usually early on a Sunday evening)

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                A16
                2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

              2. re: ThirstyReader

                For mind blowing I'd probably recommend Meadowood since The French Laundry is not available. If you want something a bit more relaxed then hit Solbar at the Solage Resort just south of Calistoga.

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                The French Laundry
                6640 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

              3. I was in the area a few weeks ago and join the chorus that Ubuntu's food remains at a high standard (despite the change in chefs).

                We also had a very nice meal at Bottega, not necessarily mind blowing, but very solid cooking with excellent service. I will definitely return, but for your purposes, I'd imagine that Cyrus would better fit the bill.

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                Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
                1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

                Bottega
                6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

                1. As much as I wish Ubuntu were tucked away on some remote road in the middle of nowhere surrounded by pristine forests, it's unfortunately in downtown Napa, which is pretty bleh, and lacks the "beautiful natural surroundings"

                  Haven't been to Meadowood, but from what I hear, it'd seem to fit what you want.

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                  Ubuntu Restaurant & Yoga Studio
                  1140 Main Street, Napa, CA 94558

                  1. In SF...

                    In rough descending order:

                    Perbacco
                    NOPA
                    A16
                    Delfina

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                    Perbacco
                    230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

                    A16
                    2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

                    Delfina Restaurant
                    3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                    1. re: whiner

                      thanks everyone for your help, I appreciate it.

                    2. Martini House, Jole in Calistoga, or Cindy's. Bottega isn't all that great and the service is a bit snooty. Martini House is pretty and has the best service, tied very closely with Cindy's unless Michael Hill is serving you, then you cannot get better in Napa.

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                      Martini House
                      1245 Spring St., St. Helena, CA 94574

                      Bottega
                      6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599