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lightstays Apr 13, 2010 12:22 PM

Anywhere it isn't $20.00/lb? I mean really, it's the Buick of the fish world.

I'm open to the boroughs.

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    Peter Cherches RE: lightstays Apr 13, 2010 01:08 PM

    I don't know what they charge but years ago they used to have it at Ess-a-Bagel and it was pretty good. I don't know if they make whitefish salad, but M&I international foods in Brighton Beach might be worth a try. One thing I discovered there is paltus, or smoked turbot, which I call the poor man's sable...a couple of years ago it was $10 a pound.

    http://petercherches.blogspot.com/200...

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    Ess-a-Bagel
    831 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10022

    1. JungMann RE: lightstays Apr 13, 2010 01:25 PM

      I like the version at Fairway. It's a bit heavy on mayo, but I like it better than the more expensive versions I've had at Barney Greengrass and Russ & Daughters.

      1. dgreen777 RE: lightstays Apr 13, 2010 01:26 PM

        I would check Trader Joes if I were you...Yeah you'll have to buy a bunch of spreads but they are completely affordable and will not be overpriced. Ess- a-Bagel will mound a bagel with it for maybe 5-6 bucks but not sure how they are selling by the pound. Another place that might have it for a decent price is Westside Market on 15th and 7th ave...hope these help!

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        Trader Joe's
        142 E 14th St, New York, NY 10003

        Westside Market
        77 7th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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          khoffdenver RE: dgreen777 Apr 13, 2010 11:12 PM

          >>I would check Trader Joes if I were you...Yeah you'll have to buy a bunch of spreads but they are completely affordable and will not be overpriced.>>

          What do you mean "you'll have to buy a bunch of spreads" -- Trader Joes only sells whitefish salad as part of a larger package? I don't get it.

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          Trader Joe's
          142 E 14th St, New York, NY 10003

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            dgreen777 RE: khoffdenver Apr 14, 2010 01:24 PM

            What i was trying to say was that if you were looking to buy the Whitefish salad in bulk they probably don't carry it. You'd have to pick up several containers if you'd be using it to serve to a large group.

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              dgreen777 RE: khoffdenver Apr 14, 2010 01:33 PM

              Another idea is you could go to M & I International or any Russian Supermarket...buy whitefish whole...take out the bones add mayo and make it fresh on the spot!

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                drmoze RE: dgreen777 Apr 16, 2010 08:30 PM

                Coincidentally, I did just make whitefish salad myself. Peel the skin back and the meat slides off both sides. I used a relatively small amount of mayo, a bit of dill and celery salt, and some finely-chopped white onions that I soaked in water first to mellow out. Actually tastes better than any other wf salad I've had in a long time, and one fish made a huge amount for not much money.

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            fourunder RE: lightstays Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM

            If you can gain access to Costco, they sell a 32 ounce container of Blue Hill Bay Smoked Whitefish Salad for around $8 here in New Jersey.....I would suspect the Manhattan store would be slightly higher, but well under $20 per pound. Blue Hill Bay is distributed by Acme of Brooklyn.

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              MVNYC RE: fourunder Apr 14, 2010 06:40 AM

              You can also buy it on Fridays at Acme in Greenpoint Brooklyn. They open up to the public once a week and also sell lox, smoked salmon, sable as well as whitefish. It is pretty cheap compared to anywhere else.

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                City Kid RE: MVNYC Apr 14, 2010 08:12 AM

                Sorry to say, but I think the Acme stuff is quite inferior and in a different category to me from the "real" smoked fish and products. The lox/smoked salmon is tough, thick, and salty with gray areas. I also tried the Blue Hill smoked whitefish salad, which I thought was terrible, loaded with sugar and preservatives. Both Acme and Blue HIll are the sort of stuff I would expect in a generic, not so good deli or coffee shop. There's a reason they are so cheap...I like the fresh made whitefish salad at Bagels on Madison (about $12/lb.), btw. 96-97th St. Also like Russ & Daughters but this is convenient for me.

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                  MVNYC RE: City Kid Apr 14, 2010 12:04 PM

                  Sorry to say but Acme supplies many of the fish places in town, including Russ and Daughters. The fish you get at the factory will not be sliced and you will have to do it yourself so I agree it will not be as good as done by a professional. But the quality is good.

                  Their Whitefish salad is decent and you can get better at Zabars, Sables, etc... but it qualifies for the original posters requirement of being cheap.

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                    City Kid RE: MVNYC Apr 14, 2010 03:25 PM

                    I have seen Acme products at other places, I believe I bought it at Westside Market and the Food Emporium, but it surprises me to hear that Russ & Daughters carries it. But your are right, it fulfills the "cheap" requirement of the OP. The last time I got the smoked salmon it was so salty and tough, I cut it into tiny pieces and mixed it with cream cheese to use up for lox spread.

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                      MVNYC RE: City Kid Apr 15, 2010 07:09 AM

                      The acme products they sell under their own label are pre sliced in vacuum containers so they will not be very good. When you buy it at the factory they sell you whole pieces, similar to how you see it in appetizing cases. I have fairly good knife skills but really can't compete with guys that have been doing it every day for decades so the slices aren't nearly as good.

                      If you search Acme and Zabars and Russ and Daughters you will find numerous articles about how they source their fish from Acme.

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                        MVNYC RE: MVNYC Apr 15, 2010 07:12 AM

                        http://blogs.villagevoice.com/forkint...

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                        MVNYC RE: City Kid Apr 15, 2010 07:11 AM

                        "These geographic distinctions are increasingly obsolete. Much of the salmon at emporiums like Zabar's, Fairway, Barney Greengrass, Russ & Daughters and Dean & DeLuca actually comes from Acme Smoked Fish, a third-generation smokehouse in Greenpoint, Brooklyn."

                        From the NYT, 9/22/02

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                        Barney Greengrass
                        541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                        Russ & Daughters
                        179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

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                          City Kid RE: MVNYC Apr 15, 2010 07:22 AM

                          Very interesting, MVNC, I had no idea about their "private label" stuff at these upscale establishments...the only stuff I was familiar with was the Acme label, not good. Thanks for the info!...I can share something with you, if you have access to Costo: they have a wonderful vacuum sealed combo of baked kippered salmon, half regular and half peppered, a pound altogether for $10 -- excellent!

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                          menton1 RE: City Kid Apr 22, 2010 08:09 AM

                          I asked Russ & Daughters, and they do NOT use any Acme products!

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                          Russ & Daughters
                          179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

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                        foodismylife RE: City Kid Apr 14, 2010 01:02 PM

                        u get what y pay for, actually i quite like the acme products, in these days of cash poor they more than hit the mark, their herring in cream sauce is fine and cheap.
                        speaking of inferior dont get me started re bagels and bialys are an ever receding memory, kossars is way beyond awful

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                      lightstays RE: fourunder Apr 16, 2010 02:59 PM

                      Thanks, all. I'm in Hoboken so I think I will try Costco, possibly will try Acme if I am ever in Greenpoint on a Friday. Cheers

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                      martyl9 RE: lightstays Apr 22, 2010 11:13 AM

                      of all places, the best white fish salad is in the Grand Central Market, Pescatore, the fish counter at the west side of the market place.

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                      Pescatore
                      955 2nd Ave., New York, NY 10022

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                        klb3129 RE: lightstays May 4, 2010 08:15 PM

                        E.A.T. on Madison has excellent whitefish salad but it's a fortune. I have bought it at Whole Foods in the prepared case in the seafood section and it is surprisingly good.

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                        E.A.T.
                        1064 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10028

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                          serious RE: lightstays May 5, 2010 04:54 AM

                          The very best I've ever had is from Hudson Bagel on Hudson near Christopher.

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                          Hudson Bagels
                          502 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

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                            chaz RE: lightstays May 5, 2010 07:43 PM

                            Sable's?

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