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Suze in the USA?

thew Apr 5, 2010 07:22 AM

i just fell in love with Suze, a bitter with a strong gentian flavor, and a campari-ish aftertaste in france this week. I've heard it is not available in the USA anymore. Any ideas where i can order some? Any idea why it is not sold here anymore?

help me obi-wan chowhondi you're my only hope.

  1. yarm Jun 24, 2012 06:52 AM

    We still cannot get Suze in Massachusetts. Instead we opted for Salers Gentiane Liqueur -- another French liqueur made with wild harvested yellow gentian that Haus Alpenz now distributes. I find the taste to be less flat, more dimensional, and better than Suze, plus it's cheaper as I got my bottle for $19.99 last week.

    http://cocktailvirgin.blogspot.com/

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      Boptor Jun 27, 2012 11:09 AM

      We also now have Suze in our shop: Royal Wine Merchants. It does have the new label and yes, its the new "old" formula. It looks amazing next the Byrhh!

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        EvergreenDan Jun 27, 2012 11:45 AM

        Just googled and Royal Wine Merchants in in lower Manhattan.

        I've only experimented a bit with Byrrh. So far it hasn't done much for me. Ideas?
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          Boptor Jun 27, 2012 12:46 PM

          I was just speaking with Ivan from Bathtub Gin in NYC. He says he's had great success with cocktails using both in the old Savoy Cocktail books.

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            EvergreenDan Jun 27, 2012 01:54 PM

            Using Erik's Savoy Stomp, I found the Byrrh Cocktail -- equal parts byrrh, Canadian whiskey, and dry vermouth. The others I saw didn't appeal to me. That said, most Savoy cocktails do not appeal to me (too sweet, usually).

            http://savoystomp.com/2008/06/05/byrr...

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      Themistocles Jun 23, 2012 02:35 PM

      Good news... maybe.

      Suze is at Astor Place Liquors in NYC, 27.99 but,

      I spoke to the sales manager. He said that he does not think it is the same as that from France. There are some suspicious things on the label. Dyes and references to it being distilled. The label is also vastly different from the French.

       
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        tokyopix Jun 23, 2012 05:37 PM

        Maybe this explains the different bottle?

        http://offthepresses.blogspot.jp/2011...

        It says for the US launch it is producing a product closer to the original recipe. The stuff we get here is a pictured in the link above, not in your picture. So maybe what you found is the new "old" formula? That would be interesting.

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          Up With Olives Jun 26, 2012 09:36 AM

          Very exciting, indeed.

          http://grade-a-fancymag.blogspot.com/

        2. yarm Jan 31, 2011 06:25 AM

          It was being sold in New Orleans. My friend brought back a bottle for our bar at the bed & breakfast (so I'm not sure which store he went to) in July.

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            thew Jan 31, 2011 07:17 AM

            damnit - why did you not post this BEFORE i was in NOLA 2 weeks ago!!!!

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              yarm Jan 31, 2011 07:33 AM

              When the thread was first posted (but before this thread had been bumped up), I had no clue either. I was upset that the liquor store he got it at was too far away (I had no car) and I couldn't bring back a bottle. But then again, at Tales of the Cocktail that year, my suitcase was already rather full.

              Still no Ojen spotted this year in NOLA though.

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                Frolic Jan 31, 2011 01:12 PM

                Ojen is gone. Martin Wine Cellar in New Orleans had the final shipment and they sold the last bottle.

          2. Thierry G. Jan 29, 2011 03:28 PM

            If you're close to the Canadian border, the duty free shops carry Suze there. This great aperitif can also be found in Montreal, QC.

            1. Up With Olives Apr 9, 2010 10:34 AM

              Agreed! Suze AND Amer Picon. The pain, the pain.

              1. thew Apr 8, 2010 11:00 AM

                more research, more heartbreak.

                ima gonna cry

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                  Scott M Apr 8, 2010 05:07 PM

                  It is not sold or distibuted in the US because the maker refuses to sell it in the States for whatever reason.

                  If you must have it you might want to try ordering it online through an Austrailian spirits website. It looks to be available in Austrailia.

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                    Tripeler Jan 30, 2011 05:44 AM

                    Refuses to sell it in the U.S.?
                    Likely there is some regulation that would prevent it being imported.

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                      thew Jan 30, 2011 07:58 AM

                      no. the distributors were not making enough money, so they stopped doing it. the choice as economic, not legislative

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