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How does Johnny D's make oatmeal so yummy?

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rscolao Apr 5, 2010 05:14 AM

Certain members of my household will eat up a cup of Johnny D's oatmeal in a snap but not eat what I make at home. How do they make it so yummy? (I love it too. AND I'd love to get some more oatmeal into my people for their own good!)

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    Pemmican Apr 5, 2010 07:19 AM

    Not based on actual insider knowledge but informed assumption. Better restaraunt taste (generally)= hidden fat. I would bet money that they use milk/cream vs. water to hydrate said oats + a pinch of salt to jazz it up. The first home trade I would heartily recommend before amping up your cal/fat intake with the milk/cream route is investing in old-fashioned or steel cut oats vs. the dusty instant stuff.

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      StriperGuy Apr 5, 2010 07:41 AM

      I don't like the steel cut myself, but just get old fashioned slow cooking oats. Much better than instant. Course a dose of heavy cream probably makes for a tasty bowl...

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        chickendhansak Apr 5, 2010 08:32 AM

        Agreed, you don't need steel cut oats, but I admit to being impressed at the results of overnight slow cooking of the steel cut variety.

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          StriperGuy Apr 5, 2010 08:42 AM

          Hmmm, overnight cooking, wow.

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            Ralphie_in_Boston Apr 5, 2010 09:29 AM

            Sure. Works great in a crock-pot that way.

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              nsenada Apr 5, 2010 10:46 AM

              I've heard tell of this method - does it make the oats less crunchy and barley-like? That would be a plus in my book.

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                Ralphie_in_Boston Apr 6, 2010 07:10 AM

                I suppose the longer cooking time has that effect yes. The great thing about steel cut oats is that they don't ever seem to get mushy, so they stand up to the long simmer well.

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        rscolao Apr 5, 2010 11:19 AM

        I wondered about the hidden fat possibilities (mmm oatmeal, now with bacon grease!) I often make oatmeal with some milk instead of water, but I am guessing they cook it far longer... though it is not steel cut (I use old fashioned rolled oats as do they, I think). Do I really need a crock pot, sigh. I also wondered if they added eggs.

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          StriperGuy Apr 5, 2010 12:00 PM

          You can make do without a crock pot. Even with gas, if I want to cook super slow you can put your gas stove as low as it will go, that stack TWO of the grates on top of each other and put your pot on top.

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            SeaSide Tomato Apr 6, 2010 09:01 AM

            Striper--That's a great tip about the two grates. I've been meaning to pick up a diffuser for the burner, but now I don't have to. Thanks!

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              StriperGuy Apr 6, 2010 09:18 AM

              Natch, allows you to cook super-slow.

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            Pemmican Apr 5, 2010 12:04 PM

            The other non crockpot route that I have found works wonders--even with water as the liquid and generic. store-brand old-fashioned oats--is prepping it the night before with x cups oats to y cups water and letting it sit overnight. Even if I microwave this combo in the morning it somehow comes out "creamier" for having had the oats absorving all night...

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              cpingenot Apr 6, 2010 09:38 AM

              I haven't tried it at Johnny D's but I make steel cut when I can using the Cooks illustrated method. Toast the grains in a bit of butter (maybe a 1tb for 1 cup oats) Then cook for 40 min with a mix of milk and water.

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                GrowingBoy Apr 6, 2010 12:28 PM

                I use the Alton Brown recipe. You can find it on FoodNetwork.com. 1 cup steel-cut oats, toasted in 2 Tbsp butter for 2 minutes. Add 3 cups boiling water. Simmer, untouched, on low for 25 minutes. Stir in 3/4 cup milk + 1/4 cup buttermilk and simmer for 10 more minutes. You can adjust the milk amounts and fat quantities based on your preferences. The recipe makes for fairly soupy oatmeal that thickens up if you keep it overnight in the fridge. I make mine on Sunday and have it all week,

            2. re: Pemmican
              litchick Apr 7, 2010 06:38 AM

              The folks at Johnny D's assure me there's no milk/cream in the preparation (I've asked in the past because of an allergy).

            3. enhF94 Apr 6, 2010 01:57 PM

              more Alton Brown: unlike nearly everything else in the world, don't salt the oatmeal until you're ready to eat it. Pentosan (a type of sugar) needs water to coax it out of the oat and into the sauce, making a creamy sauce - but salt hogs all the water and interferes with pentosans, so your oatmeal will never get quite as creamy with salt.

              I use steel-cut, and find that crock-pot overnight is creamier. I don't always prefer that, but it certainly makes a difference. Also: heavy cream.

              The salt thing drives me up the wall. I miss that seasoning!

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                bear Apr 6, 2010 02:41 PM

                Johnny D's doesn't use steel-cut oats, though, and I don't think there is any hidden fat.

                My husband loves to start off brunch with a cup, but to me it just seems like comforting old-fashioned oatmeal. The plump raisins add a nice touch, though, and pouring some half-and-half and brown sugar on top doesn't hurt, either.

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                  rscolao Apr 9, 2010 04:53 AM

                  Any more thoughts on whether is might be brand-related? Good to know they don't add any dairy (for clues) and also to talk about the non-steel-cut technique since they don't use steel cut. (I like steel cut sometimes but that's definitely not what makes theirs yummy!)

                  1. re: rscolao
                    threedogs Apr 9, 2010 07:22 AM

                    I'd be bold and ask them. I mean, the worst that could happen is - they'll won't tell you. Maybe you could figure out a way to phrase it so they'll understand that it's just for home use...

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                    djd Apr 9, 2010 06:53 AM

                    Could they possibly purée part of the oatmeal and add it back? That would make things creamier.

                  3. threedogs Apr 6, 2010 07:54 PM

                    I have an Irish friend who complained to me about the oatmeal here in the US. She told me there was a brand from back home that she missed. I found out that it could be ordered online here (she went back home before I could surprise her with it)... but of course, I haven't been able to remember the name of the brand.

                    Wondering if that's Johnny D's secret...

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                      threedogs Apr 7, 2010 02:51 AM

                      I did a search and came up with the brand: Flahavan's. (I knew it wasn't McCann's) In fact, I think I remember seeing it at Stop & Shop (Swampscott location - but others might have it).

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                        maryv Apr 9, 2010 01:17 PM

                        Shaw's in Porter Square has Flahavan's in the British expat section.

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