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Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 4, 2010 02:00 PM

1. The old Second Cup/Great Canadian Bagel that we all thought would become a Coldstone Creamery is not; it is actually a bank. Too bad, so sad.

2. Honey's Beestro is under new ownership; new menu & better service. Anyone been there?

3. The old Locavore (and then something else forgettable for about 10 min) is yet another new restaurant: and authentic Italian place that got a good review in the North Toronto Post. Anyone know anything? I hope it sticks as it seems that place is becoming a bad luck location.

4. A new restaurant-Kitchen. Looks chic with a small, focused menu. Anyone been there?

Moral of the story: lots of new places for me to try...which one should I try first?

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    hungryabbey Apr 4, 2010 04:54 PM

    Is it a new menu for all of the Honeys Beestros or just that one? Because isnt it a chain?

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      Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 4, 2010 05:03 PM

      The sign outside the restaurant just says, "New Menu" so I don't know. Maybe it is just the old menu with new daily specials?

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      buffytvs Apr 5, 2010 06:20 AM

      La Cascina (in the late unlamented Locavore's spot) looks terrific and I've seen some great customer reviews already. Trying it next weekend.

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        gogomiser Apr 5, 2010 08:04 AM

        How about the Vault? Everytime I walk by there is either no tables or one table and this is pretty consistant throughout the weekend around 7:30-8:30. Anyone been? I would love to see them make it as it looks like a real nice restaurant.

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          estufarian Apr 6, 2010 06:38 AM

          I've been to the Vault once. The food was fairly good; nothing wrong but not 'special' enough to make a trip for. I'd certainly recommend if in the area. Service was fine too. Absolutely no complaints - all 8 in my party said they'd happily return.

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            Mitzimouse May 11, 2010 03:37 PM

            Weeks ago, my husband and I were walking on Avenue Rd. and were captured by Vault. We went inside to check it out and a very nice waiter who was setting up for the evening hour kindly showed us around. The interior was lovely and we thought, what a nice place to take my M-I-L for Mother's Day. We booked a reservation for brunch there and then.

            The waiter told us there was no menu available yet for MD but to contact them closer to the day. When the restaurant called us to confirm our reservation 3 days before May 9th, we asked for a copy of the MD Brunch Menu to be emailed to us. The person w/ whom we spoke stated she would do so. She never did, however.

            Arriving there on MD, the anticipation was great and my M-I-L was so touched we had taken her to such an elegant looking place. We were hesitant about not having seen the menu but were hopeful it would be in keeping with the tasteful and elegant decor.

            As soon as I saw the menu, I knew we had made a mistake. There were very few items that were truly "brunchy". It was almost as if they had taken their regular "brunch menu" and added Mother's Day at the top. The 3 identifiable brunch dishes were: smoked salmon and spinach omlette, French toast brioche with sausages and a bacon and cheddar quiche. Everything else seemed to heavy for a designation of brunch. Pasta with seafood? Striploin? And so on it went. There was no evidence that any creativity or care had been taken by the chef or the owners to truly make up a distinct brunch menu for a celebration such as Mother's Day.

            My husband and his family are Jewish so the actual available brunch choices were paltry. No one wanted the smoked salmon omlette - like enough with the smoked salmon already. My husband, his parents and brother all ordered the Brioche French toast sans whipped cream and the sausage on the side (to be consumed by my very non-dietary adherent husband - smiting to follow).

            The French toast came on a plate with a dice of fruit salad in a tiny glass cup. It looked sad. My M-I-L wondered if it was challah, not brioche. Too bad it wasn't rounded brioche french toast for something a little distinct. The chef could have at least cut the 2 slices on a diagonal and artfully arranged them with a sprinkling of icing sugar and a sprinkling of plump berries that gave the dish visual presence.

            As the shiksa of the group, I ordered the bacon cheddar quiche. When I bit into it, in was STONE COLD. I alerted the waiter and asked him to return the quiche to the kitchen to be heated. The quiche was whisked off on a plate and I was left to munch away on my frites (which were good BTW as was the coffee).

            The waiter returned w/ said quiche and I touched it to test the temperature. It was warm on the top and still cold on the bottom. When I advised him that it was STILL not to my liking, he explained that the chef told him to tell me it was a dish meant to be served cold. What?? A cold egg quiche? No thanks. It's arrogant that a chef should advise me as to how I like to eat my quiche. If I asked for a medium steak and he made it rare, should I eat it? No. If I like my eggs scrambled and the chef believes an egg should not be compromised this way, should I have them sunny side up?

            I told the waiter that it was not my experience to have ever eaten cold quiche. I told him to return it to the kitchen and that I wanted a fresh piece this time.

            A few minutes later, the waiter brought back my pathetic quiche remains, wobbling on a little plate, obviously torture-nuked. It was the same piece even after I distinctly asked for a fresh one. What a let down. The whole event was disappointing. We were all unimpressed.

            The hostess/manager eventually came to apologize and appropriately, my dish was removed from the bill. She offered a free dessert platter if we returned for dinner. Uh, let me think...NO THANKS. You only get one shot to make a first impression. I am not going to give you a second chance after ruining our Mother's Day celebration with the offer of a dessert tray.

            I only wish we had gone to Celestin. We have had many wonderful family brunches there - they do it right.

            PS - Vault has no website where we could have had the opportunity to view the menu. Come on people. It's 2010!

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              estufarian May 11, 2010 03:51 PM

              http://www.vault20fifteen.com

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                Mitzimouse May 11, 2010 04:00 PM

                I stand corrected. They DO have a website. There was no link from Toronto.com. I didn't know the resto had a "last name".

                No brunch menu that I could find.

                Thx for the info, estufarian :-)

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                Toronto Fastfoodie May 11, 2010 04:52 PM

                No offense, but perhaps if you have dietary concerns in terms of being Kosher, you should have checked out the menu ahead of time. I do agree with you about the chef being wrong in saying "that is the way it is served, cold" but how would you suggest heating up something like quiche if not nuked. A warming oven would take longer but dry it out maybe even more.

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                  todc1996 May 11, 2010 05:21 PM

                  she made several attempts to check out the menu ahead of time....

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                    Mitzimouse May 11, 2010 07:29 PM

                    Yes, we made many attempts to see the menu. Went in blind because we didn't want to be rude and cancel at the last minute. Agree, there is nuking and then NUKING! It looked like it went through the "Is this hot enough for ya Lady?" setting - as if to make a point. Oh well. It's an experience to put behind and move on to other offerings.

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            sherry f Apr 6, 2010 06:06 AM

            Interesting.... My friend gave La Cascina a scathing review and sent an email around describing her bad experience and urged us not to go there. Sorry this feedback isn't firsthand.

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              Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 6, 2010 07:35 AM

              Have her post it here (or copy and paste with her permission) so we can all hear about it. It is just a "new place" kinks thing or does it just stink?

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                sherry f Apr 15, 2010 12:00 PM

                This Is her review of La Cascina (posted with her permission of course). sge is a real foodie and a great cook, so I trust her.

                La Cascina

                Four of us arrived at 8pm on a Saturday night. There were 2 other tables. We had to ask for bread(stale) and wait for it. Believe me, I am not a complainer, I rarely send back, it has to be very poor service, food and this time poor attitude. We were told that they came from Woodbridge, and now they are in mid-town. In other words, they were bringing the authentic Italian experience here. Well, guess what, if they couldn't make it there, why do they think they can make it here?
                We ordered the Charcuterie platter as an appetizer for the four of us. It was an embarrassment. There was not enough for one person. We complained, thought there must have been a mistake. The owner/wife came out and said it is the highest quality, if you went to the best restaurants in Toronto , this is what you would be served. I sent it back.

                The four of us ordered the same salad. It came in a bowl to share which was fine, but it was the wrong salad. I am not exaggerating, it was a bag of romaine dumped into the bowl, with very little of anything else. We sent it back. They brought us the one we had ordered, but it was not very good. There was no fish listed on the menu. My DH wanted fish, but they were out of fish, I guess the special. We later found out from the table behind us who had fish, that there was a piece left. I understand that the special can be sold out, but all fish? DH and I shared a pasta Bolognese. We asked what kind of meat was used in the sauce, they said beef, My DH later found out it was lamb. It didn't matter because there was very little of it in a very watery sauce. One friend had a ravioli special which was okay, I don't remember what the other friend had.

                Nobody came to ask us how everything was, however, the chef/owner came out and spoke to the "fish" table, directly behind us in a very small restaurant.
                I haven't had such a bad dining experience in a long time.

                Living at Yonge and Eg is an eye-opener. We have seen many restaurants come and go. We don't understand why some are still here. We tried Agostina twice and will never go back. La Vecchia has been off our list for a long time. Lolo is uncomfortably loud, so go if you don't like the people you are with because you can't hear them. Alize--we stopped going so long ago, I can't remember why. Il Sogno near Davisville, was good for a bit, then really went downhill with their food and service. They closed, and now reopened with a new menu.
                Balsamico is new and good. Amore and Grazie are reliable for neighborhood eateries. That's why, I don't understand why La Cascina didn't make an effort to ask us what they could do for us after we complained, sent back, etc. They came from Woodbridge? Big F@#^*%G Deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                Grazie
                2373 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P2C8, CA

                La Vecchia
                2405A Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P2E7, CA

                Il Sogno
                1993 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4S 1Z8, CA

                Lolo Restaurant
                2590 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P2J3, CA

                1. re: Ben M.
                  Ediblethoughts Oct 1, 2010 06:33 PM

                  I tried LC out a few weeks back and I'd say it was a mix of some very tasty dishes and some that were only so-so. As an aside, I don't eat chicken but I found it very odd that they say they never serve it. The staff were very friendly and accomodating to a fish/veg diet, even offering to order certain lower mercury fish if I gave them a bit of warning (the fish they made for us was wonderful).

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                    Doopsylalolic Oct 1, 2010 07:27 PM

                    They never serve chicken? Bravi! Hooray for them. It reminds me of a soundbite of Vittorio's: he didn't serve chicken because there were no good chickens to serve. He said that about 25 years ago when his osteria was on Yonge near Blythwood. Maybe the same decision prevails at LC. I admire the nerve. A lot of chicken on the market is second-rate, and when you go out, shouldn't your food be first-rate?

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                      Ediblethoughts Oct 1, 2010 07:44 PM

                      It's certainly a very brave choice---given that for so many people, chicken is there go-to food (you know, beef, not healthy, lamb too gamey, can't quite bear to eat fish so chicken is where they go).

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                      Googs Oct 26, 2013 08:26 AM

                      An update to La Cascina from Chris Nuttall-Smith's POV:
                      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/restaurant-reviews/torontos-la-cascina-transports-you-to-abruzzo-for-mom-style-farmhouse-cooking/article15081844/

                      http://www.lacascina.ca/

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                        Yongeman Oct 26, 2013 04:21 PM

                        Wow!

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                      lamaranthe Oct 16, 2010 11:23 AM

                      You make me think twice about going to LC. It could have been a bad day or the Chef was not in the mood, but I don't want to take a chance. There are quite a few good restaurants in the area. I gave up on La Vacchia quite a while ago. Alize is far too expensive for what it has to offer. I find Grazie to be a loud pizza factory that does not offer anything special. Again, there are many other good spots around. I'll try Balsamico... Thanks for your input.

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                      Grazie
                      2373 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P2C8, CA

                      Alize Restaurant
                      2459 Yonge St., Toronto, ON M4P 2H6, CA

                      Balsamico
                      2029 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4S 1Z9, CA

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                        lamaranthe Aug 23, 2011 10:17 AM

                        Y&E. ? Lots of choices but what is really worth a visit and our money? We never tried La cascina and it seems we won't. La Vecchia saw us for the last time when they served us a sticky tasteless plate of 4-formaggi gnocchi. We sent back both plates; no apology, full bill. We tried Alize for brunch. Slow service, nothing special, except the bill... Never again, we won't be fooled twice. Coquine serves a good Caprese salad, when the chef is in a good mood. The tomato slices were about half an inch thick and it would take a magnifier to see the bocconcini. I sent it back and I got what I wanted (thin timato slices and a good amount of bocconcini), without any problem. We had been trying the mussels but the supposedly french fries were absolutely lame, greasy and slumping over the dish. We went to the Green Papaya and asked if they served fried crabs. We got a very rude answer, meaning 'NO'. What else is to be tried? Simple Bistro, Tabule are still our favorites. Let us know what else is good around here. Thanks!

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                        Tabule
                        2009 Yonge Street, Toronto, ON M4S 1Z8, CA

                        Alize Restaurant
                        2459 Yonge St., Toronto, ON M4P 2H6, CA

                        La Vecchia
                        2405A Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P2E7, CA

                        Simple Bistro
                        619 Mount Pleasant Rd, Toronto, ON M4S2M5, CA

                        Coquine
                        2075 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4S2A4, CA

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                  Spreader Apr 5, 2010 05:26 PM

                  My wife and I went to Safari tonight. She had the fish tacos and loved them, I had a nice, decent sized blackened chicken curry dish and was more then satisfied as well. Slightly more upscale then the Firkin, which is more to my tastes. Other then mediocre service, not sure if our guy was a waiter the rest of the time, it was a good value.

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                  Safari Bar & Grill
                  1749 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M 3Y8, CA

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                    Doopsylalolic Apr 5, 2010 06:39 PM

                    Casa Mia Trattoria is renovating. That's the place behind the Harvey's, next to No Frills.

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                    Casa Mia Trattoria
                    352 Melrose Ave, Toronto, ON M5M1Z4, CA

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                      Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 5, 2010 06:54 PM

                      Love that place. Its hidden and romantic and delicious! I love that you can have a romantic dinner out front and yummy pizza takeout for the kids on the side.

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                        girlstar Apr 14, 2010 06:46 PM

                        I think it's turning into something "Lounge" we got a postcard in the mail last week.

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                          Gracebay May 4, 2010 07:41 PM

                          I stopped by today to see what had happened to my fave neighbourhood restaurant, and as I feared, it is far from Casa Mia, in fact it looks like an adult nightclub...I loved Casa Mia, great food, very friendly service and a good wine list. Does anyone know where the owner has moved to? He must have spent quite a bit of money on his beautiful patio with the big fountain, and the pizzeria out back...I am so disappointed!

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                          Casa Mia
                          88 Dunlop St W, Barrie, ON L4N1A6, CA

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                            girlstar May 12, 2010 06:03 PM

                            It's called Luna Lounge, I think they serve food too in addition to being a nighttime lounge.

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                              ksapd May 20, 2010 11:50 AM

                              Went by on Saturday on the way home from dinner out for a night time drink. Interesting place and something that the perhaps the neighbourhood needs - somewhere local to go for a drink, music and tapas style food. Lots of patio/lounge space and fairly nice. Did not try food. Stop by and check it out if you are local.

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                        lamaranthe Oct 16, 2010 11:37 AM

                        Fancy menu and expensive for what it is. IMO.

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                        Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 5, 2010 06:55 PM

                        Also, what about the Patisserie on the south side below The Bagel House. It always looks busy; anyone been there?

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                        Bagel House
                        1548 Bayview Ave, Toronto, ON M4G, CA

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                          TorontoJo Apr 6, 2010 05:09 AM

                          Isn't that the new outlet of La Bamboche? The first is on Yonge, south of Eg (on Manor? can't recall, but just next to Coquine).

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                          Coquine
                          2075 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4S2A4, CA

                          La Bamboche
                          4 Manor Rd E, Toronto, ON M4S, CA

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                            Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 6, 2010 05:31 AM

                            Yes, that is the one I am talking about.

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                              TorontoJo Apr 6, 2010 06:13 AM

                              I haven't been to this one, only to the original. The offerings are lovely to look at, but they've never done anything for me. I find them rather "meh". There is a green tea poundcake that I recall being rather tasty. But that's about it for me. Their macarons are way too sweet.

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                                gimel Apr 6, 2010 08:15 AM

                                re La Bamboche, my wife reports an acceptable croissant - the passionfruit/chocolate thing she brough home for me was far too rich and sweet for my tastes, so I'm not qualified to comment there...

                                re Honey Beestro, we had good steak sandwiches there once under the old management, but didn't make a habit of going. Walking by the other day, I noticed the new sign said "eric is back" or something like that - a charismatic bartender or something along those lines?

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                                La Bamboche
                                4 Manor Rd E, Toronto, ON M4S, CA

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                                  Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 6, 2010 03:08 PM

                                  I, too, have no idea who Eric is. Perhaps the mystery of "Eric" will bring people in?

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                                    pearlD Apr 14, 2010 02:12 PM

                                    Eric used to be associated with The Twisted Bagel which didn't last long with or without Eric...he's a nice young man who has a solid background in the business, not a Chef but a very capable person who has been at several 'cafe' type eating places....I think 'management' is more his forte, not the actual 'cooking' end of things....He's earnest and I wish him well.

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                                    lamaranthe Aug 23, 2011 10:33 AM

                                    Re Bamboche, I went there when they first opened. It was good but it seems to me that it's not keeping up the good job. The croissants are not the best in town; the pound cake contains too much baking soda and last Christmas they did not have many choices of ''buches'', the traditional French Christmas cake. I went to Thuet and I got a wonderful, well decorated Christmas cake.

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                                    Thuet
                                    609 King St W, Toronto, ON M5V1M5, CA

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                                  sabra1 Apr 24, 2010 04:05 PM

                                  Yes it is La Bamboche. I orderded deesert fromm them for a large party I had in January (50 guests) and they were all gone within minutes and my guests loved them. Same with the macarons that are very very close to the famous french macarons. Believe me I just got back from Paris and know pastries. Issue with them is the decor that is pretty cold, not inviting-no choice of sandwiches and on top of it they only make them with croissants instead of a nice baguettes like any French bakery would. La Bamboche-if you read this please take into account the sandwich issue as a few of my friends had the same comments. Would love to go back but lunch choices have to be better. Take a hint from La Boheme on Yonge St.!!!! You would attract a lot more people.

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                                  La Bamboche
                                  4 Manor Rd E, Toronto, ON M4S, CA

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                                  lamaranthe Oct 16, 2010 11:40 AM

                                  La Bamboche - Very good baguettes and rather good croissants. Their pound cake burns your tongue for too much baking power in it. And do not expect any fancy Christmas cake. For that you have to go to Dufflet or Pusateris.

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                                  Dufflet
                                  787 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M6J, CA

                                  Pusateri's
                                  1539 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

                                  La Bamboche
                                  4 Manor Rd E, Toronto, ON M4S, CA

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                                buffytvs Apr 14, 2010 12:50 PM

                                Went to both the Vault and La Cascina last week.

                                1) The Vault. Appetizers (crab cakes and mussels were outstanding). My cassoulet was somewhat dry, but my friend's short ribs were pronounced perfect. Did not try dessert. Wine list is incomplete --look in the vault before you eat, not after, if you want something special to drink -- according to their web site, you can also BYOB. Service was okay without being exceptional. Their menu changes in about 2 weeks, so I'll definitely go back.

                                2) La Cascina. Fascinating experience which we loved, but it won't be to everyone's taste. This is not your standard Italian restaurant. There is no fixed menu, as they insist on everything being fresh daily; if you want something specific, call them in advance, and they'll try to make it for you. Otherwise, you take what's there when you go.

                                We had the mixed antipasto -- the cold part was fairly routine, but the hot dishes were very interesting. My veal with lemon was superb, as was my friend's steak, which was served grilled, sliced, and served on a bed of salad. My wife's home-made pasta with tomato and basil was also good. A nice, fresh green salad big enough for two complemented it all very nicely. There were only two entrees offered (so we tried both) and several pastas. Dessert offering was minimal -- they need to work on this. Wine list decent, but not wide-ranging.

                                The owners are the chef and his wife, and we met both of them during the evening. The service was very attentive. We've been looking for a new favourite spot since Richlee's was sold, and since this is a 2 minute walk from our front door, I think we may have found it.

                                3) Safari After years of ignoring this place, we've been there twice in 10 days, and wondered why we don't go more often. Upmarket pub food -- good salads, sandwiches, pastas, nice weekend brunch menu. Lots of interesting Austrian beer on tap, and a nice patio for sunny days.

                                4) One of our sushi spots has turned into Pizzaiolo, which gets reasonable ratings from people who've been to its Queen St. location. Haven't tried it yet.

                                5) Fun'l Fun MY wife insisted on trying it once. I guess if $20 waffles are your thing, you'll like it. Mostly seems empty when I walk by there, and I really can't see it surviving the year.

                                6) Honey's didn't appeal to me in either incarnation so far, and still doesn't. I'd take the Firkin across the road long before this, or the old tried and true Karbouzi (Greek) and Satay on the Road (Thai mostly) just steps away.

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                                Richlee's
                                1959 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A3, CA

                                Satay on the Road
                                2003 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

                                Karbouzi
                                2048 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A6, CA

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                                1. re: buffytvs
                                  danionavenue Aug 22, 2011 08:53 PM

                                  I had a horrible meal at Safari and I just LOVE Satay on the Rd. I want to go to Lulul lounge someday soon. I love Yogurty's. I live on Lytton and Avenue Rd. very close to Lawrence.

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                                  Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 15, 2010 08:01 PM

                                  Just came back from Kitchen. In a word: great. Everything we had was amazing. Simple food but with their own special twist. There really is a concentration on using fresh ingredients rather than complex dishes with unusual ingredients. I had cream of mushroom soup, 4-cheese mac & cheese, and carrot cake for dessert. Wine menu is small but well chosen and well though-out. The menu itself is small but there are a lot of daily specials. The service was great; warm and attentive without being overpowering. Please go there and keep this place alive!

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                                    ddelicious Apr 18, 2010 07:27 AM

                                    Does this seem like the kind of place you could take kids? And if you don't mind me asking, how much was your meal?

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                                      Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 18, 2010 09:30 AM

                                      It is quite small so I am not sure I would say it is a great restaurant for little kids as there is not too much room to move around and make a ton of noise. However, if your kids can sit for a meal, I would say that the menu is actually quite kid-friendly.

                                      Our meal was $250 (before tip) for 7 people. We each had an app, a main, shared a bottle of wine and two desserts.

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                                        millygirl Apr 18, 2010 01:03 PM

                                        I've heard there is a new italian restaurant opened up across the street from Rossini's. Is it Strata?? Can anyone shed light on this place?

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                                          ddelicious Apr 18, 2010 07:14 PM

                                          Stratto? http://www.strattowineandgrill.com
                                          Its been open for a while, was extremely busy last summer. Haven't tried it yet myself.

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                                            millygirl Apr 19, 2010 06:46 AM

                                            Yes, thanks ddelicious, that's the one. Friends were telling us it's quite good but funny, I've never heard a word about it.

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                                              TorontoJo Apr 19, 2010 09:12 AM

                                              I've heard pretty mixed reviews on Stratto -- one friend thought it was worse than mediocre, another thought it was "fine". There are so many Italian places in the area, that I've chosen to give it a pass. I think there are a couple of reviews on the board somewhere.

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                                            sabra1 Apr 24, 2010 04:10 PM

                                            The food is good but the noise level is horrendous! I stopped going there because if it.

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                                            ddelicious Apr 19, 2010 10:41 AM

                                            They sit and eat nicely (wouldn't take them out if they didn't!) I meant more does the food come quickly? And are they receptive to easy changes to menu items, i.e. serving pasta with just tomato sauce for example.

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                                              Toronto Fastfoodie Apr 24, 2010 05:15 PM

                                              The food did come quickly and they seemed as if they would be receptive to changes although I have to admit we didn't make any. But I wasn't that hungry and only had a few bites of my mac n cheese and without waiting until the end of the meal, the owner came over to make sure everything was ok with it. I liked that.

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                                          Christchild Jul 26, 2010 11:18 AM

                                          Hey TF: Can you tell me what Kitchen is close to? And, in particular... the carrot cake, does it have a decent icing. We are looking for a great carrot cake.

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                                            TorontoJo Jul 26, 2010 11:46 AM

                                            It's at 1967 Avenue Road, near Haddington.

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                                              juno Jul 27, 2010 06:26 AM

                                              Here's another vote for Kitchen. A neighborhood bistro is how it describes itself, and that's exactly what it is. Though with just 30 seats or so, you can't casually drop in when you feel like it - you should probably reserve, now that the neighborhood seems to have discovered it. Better than most of the other restos on that underserved strip of Avenue Rd., most of which are exceedingly average - which explains why Kitchen quickly made an impact. Good soups and salads, tasty mains. I haven't tried the desserts, most of which are made in-house. Small but well-chosen wine list, with about six house wines by the glass, half-litre and bottle (the bottles are all $30). Clean, simple design, good service, relaxed atmosphere. With a half-litre of house wine ($20), two can easily eat well for under $100, all in. Which beats the hell out of a number of overpriced joints on that strip.

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                                                TorontoJo Jul 30, 2010 06:24 AM

                                                Nice review, juno, I need to check Kitchen out soon!

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                                                  phoenikia Jul 30, 2010 08:21 AM

                                                  Good to know, Juno. Thanks for the heads up. Will have to check Kitchen out one of these days.

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                                                Toronto Fastfoodie Jul 27, 2010 08:50 AM

                                                The carrot cake does have great icing. But be warned: like a restaurant that truly uses fresh ingredients and has a small,simple but ever-changing menu, the carrot cake may not be there on the night you are. I went the other night with my hubby and while everything was delicious, I didn't have dessert that night because nothing on the menu that night appealed to me: rice pudding, flourless chocolate cake, and a flan. But I got reports that the rice pudding was great.

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                                              Toronto Fastfoodie Jul 30, 2010 05:45 AM

                                              So it has been a few months since the new ownership of Honey Beestro and it seems busier than it did with the previous owner. Does that mean that it is better? Any reports from recent customers? My husband is reluctant to go (read: flat-out refuses to go) back as our previous experiences were beyond terrible unless we get some recent glowing reports.

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                                                Toronto Fastfoodie Oct 2, 2010 10:29 AM

                                                I saw that the Copper Chimney that opened in place of J28 has now opened. I am wondering if it is the same owners as the one in Ajax. Has anyone been there? Any reports?

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                                                619 Kingston Rd W, Ajax, ON L1S6L8, CA

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                                                  newinTO Oct 2, 2010 02:56 PM

                                                  I will try to go to the Copper Chimney next weekend.
                                                  I was at The Monker Bar last Thursday and had a great meal. A little pricy for the quality I think.
                                                  Any thoughts on Monkey Bar?

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                                                  619 Kingston Rd W, Ajax, ON L1S6L8, CA

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                                                    millygirl Oct 2, 2010 04:23 PM

                                                    We frequent the Monkey Bar and Grill a few times a year and have always enjoyed our meals. The menu has all the standards and priced quite reasonably. Friends live in the area and it's their go to spot.

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                                                    3353 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4N2M6, CA

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                                                      perogy Oct 21, 2010 05:02 PM

                                                      we went to the monkey about two months ago and we all (party of four) found the food to be quite good - i see why it is packed with regulars. i have to comment on something: i ordered the caesar salad b/c the description sounded interesting (new potatos, in the caeser salad!) and i have to tell you, it was seriously one of the most delicious combinations i have ever had. and so simple - i mean, caeser salad is usually pretty boring and uneventful. but the dressing, the bacon, the warm potatoes.....i'm still thinking about it 2 months later!

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                                                    Idas Oct 14, 2010 07:05 PM

                                                    Hi,
                                                    We were really pleased to catch the grand opening. 2050 Avenue Road.
                                                    www.the-copper-chimney-com ph: 647-436-2538
                                                    Notare Bene: %20 off dine-in Tues-Thursday until Dec. 31, 2010., %10 off takeout. (I took their menu on the way out
                                                    )We at at the Copper Chimney on Avenue Rd. on Tuesday night., and what a nice surprise I must say the %20 off was.

                                                    Service was very gracious, the ambiance was simple yet warm and the food was very good, portions larger than Amaya and way more tasty.
                                                    Naan was spectacular. The management told us their tandoor chef came from Cuisine of India (where I had in the past really enjoyed the naan as well).
                                                    The asked for a lot of feedback on the dishes such as spicing and heat levels of chilies.
                                                    We ordered:
                                                    Amritsari Fish appetizer (crispy fish)
                                                    Butter chicken (they customized the spice level for my kids)
                                                    Beef Vindaloo
                                                    Daal Bukhara (black lentils simmered for 8 hours)
                                                    Plain yogurt instead of raita
                                                    Naan and Rice
                                                    The desserts were amazing, pistachio crunchy textured frozen creamy dish (Kulfi?) and Galub-Jamun.
                                                    The owner generously didn't charge for the desserts. They served our girls chocolate and vanilla ice cream free of charge as well.
                                                    My girls loved it, the restaurant owner made sure to check the butter chicken was mild enough for them and my naan critic 8 year old declared it the best naan ever (she is hard to impress given her love of naan)
                                                    I would definately encourage people to visit. The people are so very kind there.

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                                                      ddelicious Oct 18, 2010 09:55 AM

                                                      the correct website is www.the-copper-chimney.com The place looks inviting from the outside, looking forward to trying it.

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                                                        Idas Oct 18, 2010 05:09 PM

                                                        oops, sorry for the extra dash. Thanks for correcting!

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                                                    lamaranthe Oct 15, 2010 01:35 PM

                                                    The Copper Chimney 2050 Avenue Road (at Dunblaine) -ph: 647-436-2538 -- Recent very good reviews.

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                                                    619 Kingston Rd W, Ajax, ON L1S6L8, CA

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                                                      estufarian Oct 15, 2010 02:48 PM

                                                      Have you tried it?

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                                                        Ottawagy Oct 22, 2010 02:44 PM

                                                        I'm probably going to regret doing this because this place is truly a gem (which we don't have many of in the Avenue/Lawrence and Yonge/Lawrence corridor) and the more I rave about this place, the more likely I am to have trouble getting a table or getting my takeout order. That said, I have to rave about this place because the food is deserving of high praise.

                                                        First the good - We've had three takeout meals and each time the food has been outstanding. We've tried the Chana Massala, Aloo Ghobi, Chicken tikka Massala, Chicken Vindaloo, Beef Vindaloo, Samosas, naans, rices and chutneys. We are not East Indian and by no means Indian-food connoisseurs, but to our taste buds the food is fresh and very falvourful, Far better than what's on offer at Mela further south on Avenue or at Amaya on Yonge (which we have always liked but found the dine-in food better than the takeout, and the food on Bayview better than the food on Yonge). We've eaten at Cuisine of India, The Host, Amaya (in it's all forms), etc. and this may well be the best Indian we've had in Toronto. Recognizing that the food in Brampton may be better but we don't get out there much and the food on Gerrard is a lot of Pakistani (like Lahore Tikka House). Staff have been nice and friendly. As noted above, prices are very reasonable (better than Amaya) and they are giving 10% off takeout and 20% off dine-in Tues-Thursday util the end of the year.

                                                        The bad - On a Tuesday food was ready in 15 mins. but on a Friday and Sunday it took about 45 mins - 1 hour (although to be fair, on the second visit they warned me it would take awhile). They are still working out staffing issues and I had a difficult time placing a phone order last Sunday (they didn't answer the phone). Went down in person and placed my order. They admitted they weren't prepared for the amount of take-out/dine in orders and one of their cooks called in sick. I'm more than happy to cut them some slack .

                                                        Other - The dining room has a more "traditional" look and feel which makes it appear a little downmarket from Mela or Amaya (which have better, more modern decor). Personally, I'd rather have good food than trendy surroundings (and Avenue/Dunblaine isn't exactly College or King West). But from the outside this may turn off some.

                                                        I hope this place does well. It is the first restaurant to open in our neighbourhood in a long time that I truly want to succeed (perhaps the only one in the past 5-6years). Now if only we could get a decent Chinese or Thai place, I'd be content - Satay on the Road being inconsistent and the takeout place on Avenue, I think it was called Purple something, which is now closed and one on Yonge, formerly a Ho-Lee Chow franchise, which was recently re-opened, both being forgettable.

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                                                        2003 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

                                                        Amaya
                                                        1574 Bayview Ave, Toronto, ON M4G3B7, CA

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                                                          gogomiser Oct 25, 2010 07:10 AM

                                                          I so agree with you ottawagy, went there for dinner sat night and really enjoyed everything food was flavourful and prices are resonable attentative service. We forgot to order a veg dish so order it late (alogobi) by the time we got halfway through our meal it didn't come out yet so we asked and they made a mistake thinking we wanted it for take out so they took it off the bill and we still got to take it home. BTW it was excellent the next day. Make a reservation if you are going this place is a hit!!

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                                                      Idas Oct 15, 2010 07:40 PM

                                                      Went to Kitchen for desserts tonight.
                                                      Place was pleasantly busy, very neat and tidy restaurant, lovely kitchen smells.
                                                      I wish I had remembered it earlier and had dinner there.
                                                      Had the Flourless chocolate cake served with expresso icecream....pretty much the best flourless cake in recent memory. So light and sweet balanced.
                                                      Also tried the carrot cake, again very fresh, moist, flavourful and not too sweet like most restaurant versions.
                                                      My partner enjoyed the espresso, said it had nice flavour.
                                                      I plan to return soon to eat dinner... can't wait.
                                                      Very pleasant wait staff.
                                                      All desserts made in house.

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                                                        Attknee Nov 26, 2010 10:09 AM

                                                        Oh Oh. Heading to Kitchen for dinner tonite largely on the positive reports I have read. Will report back. But my ever expanding belly does not need to be tempted by excellent desserts.

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                                                        red twizzler Oct 20, 2010 01:09 AM

                                                        On Saturday night we dined at Honey Beestro. We had the ribs. They were nothing special -the sauce was way too sweet. Around 9 P.M. Karaoke started. It was so loud we had to leave. It pretty well cleared the place out except for a table of young people that came in for the karaoke. While we were waiting for our bill two couples walked in, were seated, then immediately got up and walked out because of the noise. How foolish and no management around, just a couple of young girls waitressing. I won't be back.

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                                                          Idas Oct 25, 2010 07:11 PM

                                                          Nothing suprises me about Honey Beestro. Yeesh.
                                                          I wish an alternative coffee house (with real locally roasted beans) would make it's way to our hood, or at least to Yonge/Eg. Particularly if they carried nice food to snack on.
                                                          The only real alternative is Organic Oven, though very nice and tidy, not very cozy.

                                                          Any reviews on the Burger wine bar place?

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                                                            newinTO Nov 9, 2010 06:00 PM

                                                            I have not been to the new burger place and want to check it out, BUT i just read very negative reviews in another forum of chowhound. Will probably check it out anyway. Thursday night there is a good NBA game, if they have a TV, I will watch it there and report back.
                                                            a friend of mine recommended Karbouzi, I went for lunch on saturday. I give it a 4 out of 10 at best.

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                                                            2048 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A6, CA

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                                                              Toronto Fastfoodie Nov 10, 2010 04:20 AM

                                                              That is weird...I have read those reviews too but everyone I know who has gone there has LOVED it and wanted to go back ASAP. This includes my father, who is one of the original foodies in the city and hems and haas over going to restaurants a second (or third time) based on his experiences, and a colleague of mine who is not the most positive thinker on the planet.

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                                                                gogomiser Nov 10, 2010 07:22 AM

                                                                If you are referring to Burger Cellar on Yonge st. the burgers are very good but the onion rings need more flavour, maybe a little salt would fix it, sweet potato fries are average to good however I find the sides to be very expensive. It's worth a try but wouldn't be my go to place for burgers.

                                                                BTW newinTO I agree with you on Kabouzi it's far to ok I don't know how they stayed in business all these years?? And Burger Cellar does have TV's at the Bar.

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                                                                  newinTO Nov 24, 2010 04:56 PM

                                                                  Well I dint got o Burger Cellar, I hope I get to go soon. BUT I did go to Simple Bistro in Mt. Pleasant. WOW!! everything was great. Only not so good were the Duck Bonbons, those were really bad and greasy. The meats, fish and poultry were all outstanding. Friendly service (rare in T.O.). Hopefully I get to go to Burger Cellar this weekend. Does anyone now were is a good place for lunch around the neighborhood? I had to drive to Bayview due to lack of options.

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                                                                  619 Mount Pleasant Rd, Toronto, ON M4S2M5, CA

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                                                                    Yongeman Nov 25, 2010 04:03 AM

                                                                    Lunch at the Butcher shop (forget the name) on the east side of Yonge, north of Lawrence at about Roslin or Bowood is great. They make fresh sandwiches from a variety of breads and fillings. I had a roast beef on baguette the other day, $6, I think. Excellent sandwich. They also have good-looking chicken or meat pies.

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                                                                      TorontoJo Nov 25, 2010 04:21 AM

                                                                      That's The Friendly Butcher. Great people in there. In the summer they set up a grill outside and the sandwiches from that are a great deal.

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                                                                        Yongeman Nov 26, 2010 03:35 AM

                                                                        That's the one. Thanks TorontoJo.

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                                                            Doopsylalolic May 4, 2011 06:44 AM

                                                            This week I noticed two Avenue Road spots are closed.
                                                            Vault 2015
                                                            Baka (1959 Avenue)

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                                                            2015 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M, CA

                                                            Baka Restaurant
                                                            1959 Avenue Rd., Toronto, ON M5M 4A3, CA

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                                                              gogomiser May 4, 2011 07:29 AM

                                                              I walk by the vault at least twice a week in the evening and never saw more than two tables occupied. Too bad it's a nice looking restaruant but I have to say I never found there menu very interesting.

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                                                                ddelicious May 4, 2011 08:11 AM

                                                                The Baka website says they are closed today and tomorrow, do you know for sure they are closed permanently? I am not sure about Vault either, a couple of times they looked closed but were actually open, they have a blind which they pull over the front door which makes it look papered over, but it is just to keep the sun out.

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                                                                1959 Avenue Rd., Toronto, ON M5M 4A3, CA

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                                                                  Doopsylalolic May 4, 2011 11:35 AM

                                                                  One has a sign to the effect in the door, the other a sign in the window.

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                                                                    ddelicious May 4, 2011 01:03 PM

                                                                    Ahhh. That settles it then.

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                                                                      gogomiser May 5, 2011 09:02 AM

                                                                      I walked by last night Baka has a letter posted on the window from the landlord locking them out for back rent. Vault has a hand written on cardboard sign stateing "we are closed sorry"

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                                                                Idas Jun 24, 2011 08:24 AM

                                                                Fusion Wok just opened up on Ave & St. Germain.
                                                                They own the fish shop next door.
                                                                I orderd Ma Po tofu and fish stir-fry and 1 small steam rice.. yummy howerver it cost $28 (a bit too pricey for a regular take out place even for this area)
                                                                However everything was very fresh and correctly seasoned.
                                                                No deep fried tofu yet though...
                                                                I hope they consider dinner packages so it would be reasonable to treat friends to some nice Cantonese seafood based dishes.

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                                                                  Doopsylalolic Aug 22, 2011 06:36 PM

                                                                  Mela Indian Cuisine (1921 Avenue) is a goner :(.

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                                                                  1921 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A2, CA

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                                                                    Ediblethoughts Aug 22, 2011 07:30 PM

                                                                    Awww, that's too bad. That was one of my favourite Indian places.

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                                                                      gimel Aug 23, 2011 06:45 AM

                                                                      damn, mine too. And I had a groupon to use too... maybe that should have been a clue?

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                                                                        Doopsylalolic Nov 3, 2011 08:07 PM

                                                                        Another Indian restaurant has just opened at #1921 - Bombay Hut (/Bistro?)

                                                                        Also Honey's Beestro is closed again.

                                                                        And I think a Tim Hortons is about to open next to Satay on the Road.

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                                                                          ddelicious Nov 6, 2011 12:24 PM

                                                                          Why do you think it is a tim horton's? No sign that I can see.... Bombay hut is where Mela used to be an I wonder if it is the same owners.

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                                                                            Doopsylalolic Nov 8, 2011 06:00 AM

                                                                            A few weeks ago the building permit in the window said Tim Hortons on it. We shall see ...

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                                                                            ddelicious Dec 16, 2011 07:26 AM

                                                                            The tim hortons/coldstone creamery has the sign up and looks almost ready to open. Coldstone will be a good addition to the neighbourhood and I think the tims will be busy also. there is a building permit in the window of the old cibc at dunblaine and avenue but i don't know what it says. The mr sub that closed is becoming a juice or smoothy place.

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                                                                              gimel May 26, 2012 11:49 AM

                                                                              Bombay Hut appears to be toast now, to be replaced by "asian fusion"...

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                                                                        ddelicious Aug 23, 2011 08:57 AM

                                                                        There's something new, its called Cafe St. Germain. On the east side of avenue road just north of st. germain. Not sure what they are serving but it looks cute from the outside.

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                                                                          gogomiser Sep 12, 2011 01:21 PM

                                                                          Anybody comment on Cafe St. Germain yet? I walked by this weekend and it seemed pretty busy.

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                                                                            gogomiser Nov 6, 2011 02:25 PM

                                                                            there is a new restaraunt opening were the vault was called something south bistro.

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                                                                              franpelyk Nov 14, 2011 02:37 PM

                                                                              The place is being rented by the guys who own Cams on Yonge St. The old Montys. Ill give this place 3 months if it's run anthing like their other pub.

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                                                                                gogomiser Nov 15, 2011 06:18 AM

                                                                                Interesting....just walk by last night its called "south street bistro". I also noticed that "Richlee" has reopened and is serving Italian.

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                                                                                  reservationconversation Nov 15, 2011 08:22 AM

                                                                                  Another Italian Restaurant? Not exactly what Avenue Road needs. Why not Spanish or Mexican or Portuguese.

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                                                                                    franpelyk Nov 15, 2011 02:10 PM

                                                                                    I'm with you! Portuguese would be great, but another poor quality bistro is just a waste of our money. Good news about Richlee though! It used to have a very affordable and interesting wine list. Hope it continues.

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                                                                                    1959 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A3, CA

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                                                                                      ddelicious Nov 17, 2011 07:55 AM

                                                                                      REALLY????? Did you get it from a good source, before I get too excited?

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                                                                                      Gracebay Nov 22, 2011 08:43 AM

                                                                                      I have been hoping for a West Indian place for a very long time - Caribbean Bistro on Yonge is great but something up here on Avenue would be welcome...

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                                                                                      2439 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4P, CA

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                                                                                        Ediblethoughts Nov 22, 2011 06:04 PM

                                                                                        Is it really great? I've only had delivery once and it was pretty awful. Is it better if you eat in?

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                                                                                      franpelyk Nov 15, 2011 02:07 PM

                                                                                      You may have walked past the wrong rest. I went by today and there is a sign indicating it's called the Left Bank (or maybe right). I didn't look that close. It is the people from Cams for sure, but they've managed to do a poor job at the bar on Yonge, so I'm expecting more of the same. I just hope it's cleaner!!

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                                                                                        gogomiser Feb 8, 2012 01:31 PM

                                                                                        Anyone try out the Left Bank yet? I would like to try it but would like hear from a fellow CHer first.

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                                                                                          ddelicious Feb 8, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                                                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/830092

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                                                                                  Doopsylalolic Nov 14, 2011 10:29 AM

                                                                                  Cafe St. Germain CH thread here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/807091

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                                                                                Doopsylalolic May 26, 2012 05:12 AM

                                                                                Aroma Espresso Bar set to open this summer at Avenue/Dunblaine

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                                                                                  ddelicious Jun 2, 2012 03:31 PM

                                                                                  Bombay Hut which used to be Mela is closed and it seems like a sushi place is opening there.

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                                                                                    buffytvs Jun 21, 2012 07:12 AM

                                                                                    It's now Sakura Garden -- Asian fusion. Mostly sushi, but also Thai and Pho dishes. They just opened this week, and have a dinner $17 AYCE special going. The sushi was excellent when we went two nights ago.

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                                                                                      BBQChow Jul 9, 2012 11:26 AM

                                                                                      Posted a review of Sakura here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/857050.

                                                                                      Great value and fresh. Just ordered the red curry chicken a few moments ago for take out. Hopefully it lives up to the rest of the dishes I have tried from them so far.

                                                                                      Sakura Garden (Japanese/Asian/AYCE
                                                                                      )1921 Avenue Road
                                                                                      (647) 348-8668

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                                                                                        Idas Aug 15, 2012 11:10 AM

                                                                                        I agree. Yummy food. Food naming of certain items could be confusing like Pad Thai there is really Singapore noodles. Still very good but certainly not Pad Thai. The Rock Shrimp is a pan fried shrimp that is smothered in a slightly spicy mayo sauce. Other than that, most dishes on the All You Can eat we have tried are up to description.
                                                                                        Major bonus is that kids are free up to 3. Then 1 dollar per year of age until 12. Pretty amazing for our 5 and 9 year olds who could eat 15 dollars worth of maki each.
                                                                                        People are nice and ambiance is very clean and crisp but not too formal.
                                                                                        I find very good value especially at lunch with kids if you are hungry.
                                                                                        Enjoy.

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                                                                                      ddelicious Aug 9, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                                                      Walima Cafe which is a Moroccan restaurant relocating from the Danforth is moving into the Hershey's space. There is a wings and rock and roll place opening where Honey's Beestro was. Name is drums and something? The Aroma looks like it is almost ready.

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                                                                                        Yongeman Aug 10, 2012 04:00 PM

                                                                                        Those are some great positive improvements for the area (although the Honey's for wings kind of evens out).

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                                                                                          ddelicious Aug 12, 2012 12:35 PM

                                                                                          The wing place is called drums n flats. http://drumsnflats.com/

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                                                                                            GroundBeef Aug 17, 2012 09:16 AM

                                                                                            the old Honey's spot is just as ddelicious said, owned by the Safari people... I see that Aroma espresso bar has opened up in the area...

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                                                                                          gimel Sep 17, 2012 11:36 AM

                                                                                          So Walima Cafe is open now, and we stopped by for dinner on a whim. The old Herschey's space looks a lot better, and the upstairs is closed off now. The merguez app was tasty, the moroccan salad was ok but not worth the money. We tried two lamb tagine dishes, which were very tender shanks, nicely flavoured. I'm no expert on this cuisine, but the tagines we've had in the past were much more stewish, with a relatively thick consistency. The Walima dishes were nearly brothlike - although tasty, something seemed off about the consistency. Perhaps it's something to do with whatever it is they have to do to get a dish like this out of the kitchen in 15 minutes? At any rate, dinner was under $50 for two people, with no drinks/desserts ordered.

                                                                                          There's a help wanted sign in the window, and boy do they need it - several groups came in, waited to be served, then left, while the entire staff were occupied in the back. One time the server was even prepping mint tea in the front, and couldn't be bothered to greet or even apologize to an entire family that had come in to take a chance on the place. The family left after waiting several minutes for an acknowledgement. Walima's chances of success would be heightened by a smile, a "hello just a minute please", and a little bell on the front door to let the staff know someone has entered!

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                                                                                            Ediblethoughts Oct 13, 2012 08:22 PM

                                                                                            From what I understand no liquor licence at this point either.

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                                                                                              Googoomiser Feb 20, 2013 02:22 PM

                                                                                              Anyone been to Wilima lately? I walk by all the time and don't see much action in there. One time I walked by around 5ish and went in to get a menu, they didn't have any to take home so I looked at there dine in menu, the lady I spoke with gave me a card so I could call in for take out. Later that evening I called and the outgoing message says they don't get the phone after 5:30!! How do you order take out when then don't anwser the phone? Anyway still curious if it's worth a try or not?

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                                                                                                Googoomiser Oct 13, 2013 03:27 PM

                                                                                                Still wondering about this place any comments?

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                                                                                                  Ediblethoughts Oct 14, 2013 05:20 PM

                                                                                                  Me too! I also keep hoping they will get a liquor licence.

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                                                                                                    Googoomiser Oct 15, 2013 05:14 AM

                                                                                                    I did see that they have a liquor licence application on there window.

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                                                                                                      Ediblethoughts Oct 17, 2013 04:46 PM

                                                                                                      For over a year now! The City of Toronto seems to be very poor at getting these to non-Italian restaurants!

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