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tsbummer Mar 28, 2010 05:46 PM

Two of us staying Saturday night before Easter and would like to find view (sunset or moon over the water, either looking to Golden Gate Bridge or the Pacific?) with seafood (I like crab cakes) and/or mediterranean style cooking (too broad?) Seen some places on Pier 39 panned, and many places with good food but without the view. Any suggestions on the best combination of the two?

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Pier 39
, San Francisco, CA 94102

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    kshennessy Mar 29, 2010 07:24 PM

    For a rainy day, pacific and golden gate views are not going to be stellar. The bay bridge doesn't have a sunset, but it does have lights, and makes for a lovely setting. Of all the spots mentioned so far - La Mar and Slanted Door have the best food.

    The other location for a golden date view is Murray Circle, the resturant at Cavallo point, just north of the city, looking back over the bay with the golden gate above and a city view. Gorgeous view, fantastic restaurant. Also good for brunch.

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    Slanted Door
    Ferry Slip, San Francisco, CA 94111

    Murray Circle
    601 Murray Circle, Sausalito, CA 94965

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      sydthekyd Mar 29, 2010 06:58 PM

      Skates on the Bay (at the Marina) in West Berkeley.

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      1. re: sydthekyd
        bbulkow Mar 29, 2010 09:22 PM

        Double plus view. B- food.

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        tsbummer Mar 29, 2010 03:01 PM

        Thanks for all the replies. Weather report says 80% chance of rain, so view may not mean much, but appreciate the comments, and am still deciding. Tried Waterbar last visit, and it had good service, nice decor, good food (not exceptional, but good) with nice view looking back across the Bay Bridge.

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        1. re: tsbummer
          Paul H Mar 29, 2010 03:36 PM

          Another two places with good food and a view of the Bay Bridge are Slanted Door and Boulevard. Though each of these places has its share of detractors here, there are also many folks that love both restaurants.

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          Slanted Door
          Ferry Slip, San Francisco, CA 94111

          1. re: Paul H
            bbulkow Mar 29, 2010 05:10 PM

            At Boulevard you'll need to ask for view when you reserve - I don't know how accommodating they are. SD all seats and tables are close to the view.

        2. Glencora Mar 29, 2010 08:55 AM

          Chaya has a beautiful view of the lights on the bay bridge. I've only been there for happy hour, but the food I tried was good. Seafood, but not Mediterranean, obviously.

          The Beach Chalet was a place I depended on when my son was small and needed french fries and fast service. I never plan to go back there.

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            MaddyK Mar 29, 2010 09:50 AM

            Re: The Beach Chalet -- The views are lovely and the staff is really nice, but it's more of a perfect place for a Saturday afternoon drink. The food overall is pretty bad and the interior isn't very swanky (sounds like you want a romantic night out) so I'd definitely go in the La Mar/Tiburon direction.

            1. re: MaddyK
              myst Mar 29, 2010 02:34 PM

              Would not recommend Beach Chalet. As mentioned it is often foggy and you are across the highway. Sunset is difficult but Tiburon does have gorgeous city views. Guayamas is just mexican food but after a ferry ride and a pitcher of margaritas the city does look great.

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              Guaymas Restaurant
              5 Main Street, Tiburon, CA 94920

          2. Robert Lauriston Mar 29, 2010 08:34 AM

            La Mar is good and has a spectacular view of the bay.

            No moon in the evening this week. The restaurants with good water views here mostly face the Bay. When it's foggy along the coast, the few restaurants that face the ocean have no view. Beach Chalet's not very good. The Cliff House was getting some better reports than usual, but the chef responsible for them left some months ago.

            1. Shane Greenwood Mar 29, 2010 07:41 AM

              You could also go to one of the bars atop a hotel for drinks, take in the view and sunset, then head down to another place for dinner. A drink at the Top of the Mark followed by dinner around Union Square would be the best of both worlds.

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              Top of the Mark
              Number One Nob Hill, San Francisco, CA 94108

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              1. re: Shane Greenwood
                bbulkow Mar 29, 2010 05:12 PM

                I think a blanket and a bottle of red wine at twin peaks - and then food just about anywhere - trumps all that. As much as I like top of the mark and recommend it, as an old building the architecture doesn't lend itself to great sight lines. If you walk up the hill next to twin peaks and spread a blanket, now, that's a view. No so much in the rain, though - romantic but cold.

              2. Shane Greenwood Mar 29, 2010 07:37 AM

                View + Good Chow is surprisingly hard to find here. For a sunset over the ocean, The Cliff House is really the only place with that view. Food reports range from average to excellent. The view can be fogged in quite a lot. There really aren't any sunset views over the bay unless you go to the East Bay to someplace like the restaurant at Claremont spa above Berkeley. As for straight up water views without the sunset, Slanted Door is a popular reco (Cal-Vietnamese), Waterbar & Epic Roadhouse (over priced theme restaurants), Fisherman's Wharf tourist traps (Franciscan included, but Scomas gets okay reviews though pricey), or head over to Sausaltio.

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                Slanted Door
                Ferry Slip, San Francisco, CA 94111

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                1. re: Shane Greenwood
                  Ruth Lafler Mar 29, 2010 09:53 AM

                  BTW, it's not at all surprising the "good view" and "good chow" don't go together. It's unusual to have above-average food in a restaurant that depends on other things to draw people in. In addition, since rents are usually very high in prime locations the restaurant has to generate a high volume, which means dumbing down the food to appeal to the widest possible audience and often cutting corners on things like high-end ingredients and high-end chefs.

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                    Shane Greenwood Mar 29, 2010 06:19 PM

                    I meant that it may seem surprising to a visitor because the city is known for it's amazing views and for good food. It's often a surprise to find out those two things don't go together here. What you say is true about why that is the case.

                  2. re: Shane Greenwood
                    bbulkow Mar 29, 2010 05:08 PM

                    The cliff house has 0 view after dark because you're looking at Japan with no lights or boats or even surf.

                    Greens is oft overlooked as a view restaurant. I'm a greens "hater", but they do have a nice view. It's one of the few that faces directly toward the golden gate, and the sunset streams right in.

                    1. re: bbulkow
                      Robert Lauriston Mar 29, 2010 05:12 PM

                      Greens does have one of the best views in town.

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                    Sharuf Mar 29, 2010 01:33 AM

                    The very best water view is at Caprice in Tiburon. Looking out over the bay at San Francisco when twilight falls and the city lights go on is a magical sight indeed.

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                    1. re: Sharuf
                      Ruth Lafler Mar 29, 2010 09:48 AM

                      I think you have a good point. The best views are *of* the city, not *in* the city.

                    2. cosmogrrl Mar 28, 2010 06:12 PM

                      I like the Franciscan in Fisherman's Wharf for seafood, especially the crab. It's not incredible, but it is tasty and has a great view.

                      Aside from the Cliff House, which has a new chef, there's also the Beach Chalet with views of the Pacific. It's also it's own brewery. I've only had the bar snacks there, and they're good, but not stellar.

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                      Beach Chalet Brewery & Restaurant
                      1000 Great Hwy., San Francisco, CA 94121

                      Franciscan Restaurant
                      Pier 43 1/2, San Francisco, CA 94133

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                      1. re: cosmogrrl
                        wolfe Mar 28, 2010 07:35 PM

                        According to my wife not stellar for the Beach Chalet is a gross understatement.

                      2. JasmineG Mar 28, 2010 05:52 PM

                        La Mar Cebicheria gets good reviews and is right on the water. You could also try Waterbar, though I haven't been there and so can't vouch for it.

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                        La Mar Cebicheria Peruana
                        Pier 1 1/2, The Embarcadero, San Francisco, CA 94111

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