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Mar 28, 2010 02:41 PM

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looking for great sushi. looked @ sunshiden, 15 east, uo, for lunch or dinner but looking to get blown away...and not by price unless its worth it. thanks...sushi only not looking for food from the kitchen...also looking for great pho

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  1. Look for posts by a poster her called sushiman...

    Also, great sushi costs a lot of money. There is no way around it.

    If you want less than "great" you can spend less.

    Morimoto is really mediocre and not worth it at all. Sushiden the same.

    I like 15 East a lot, Yasuda does not impress me. I like Ushiwakamaru too. Sushi of Gari,
    Sushi Seki. Kanoyama can be good if you sit in front of one of their good chefs and indicate you are serious.

    15 East
    15 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

    88 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

    19 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

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    1. re: gutsofsteel

      Thanks for the compliment.

      I have not been to Sushiden since Mr. Nakajima left. However, he trained some very competent young chefs there. I hope management is letting them do their thing. Mr. Komatsu and Mr. Abe and Mr. Kimura. Nakajima is now at Shinbashi on east 48th Street and doing extraordinary things with Mr. Ishida.

      Mr. Shimuzu at 15 East is very special.

      These two are very traditional style sushi. Nakajima uses a lot of fish from Kyushu and Mr. Shimuzu serves Ginza style sushi.

      Seki has great quality, but is modern style sushi. Good kitchen too.

      The problem with walking in off the street unknown is that you will never get their A+ game. You really need to find someone that knows them. Not that you will get a bad meal. It will probably be better than 99% of what you can get anywhere else. But that next level is something else and rare to find. My sushibuddy's review.

      1. re: sushiman

        This is very true. I have been a customer/fan of Mr. Shimizu for years, since he was at Jewel Bako in its heyday.

        Jewel Bako
        239 E 5th St, New York, NY 10003

        1. re: sushiman

          Some general replies about getting the best fish at a sushi restaurant have been moved to General Topics here:

        1. re: linguafood

          At least when you go to Yasuda, sit in front of someone other than Yasuda himself. He's a self-absorbed big mouth who doesn't cut fish well.

          There's a reason why Yasuda is a relative bargain - it's not as good as the top places. You get what you pay for.

          1. re: gutsofsteel

            I sat in front of someone else, and had some of the best sushi of my life. I paid what I could afford.

            1. re: linguafood

              I just went to Yasuda for the first time this past Friday. I was a little bit concerned based on what I'd read on these boards, but I figured I'd give him a chance. I sat in front of Yasuda, and I let him direct the meal completely. The result was some of the best sushi of my life. Everything from familiar favorites to pieces I'd never think to order (the abalone guts come to mind) were top notch.

              Now I've haven't made it to 15 east yet (or Masa), so I can't say that Yasuda is hands down the best in the city. But it certainly is a lot better than 99% of what's out there (especially if you prefer traditional to modern) and it's not wildly expensive.

              As for his personality, Yasuda did become talkative towards the end of the meal, but he didn't come across as cocky. It seemed to me that he was just very excited and enthusiastic about sushi, and about sharing its traditions with others.

            2. re: gutsofsteel

              I think Yasuda is actually a pretty funny guy. I also think that his knife skills are very good, you seem to have some vendetta against him.

              1. re: MVNYC

                No, no vendetta. Just other points of comparison, and one too many meals spent listening to Yasuda talk about himself.

                  1. re: lexismore

                    I have been many, many times. But I no longer sit at Yasuda's station.

                    1. re: gutsofsteel

                      I no longer go. Maybe once a year I roped into taking out for lunch. I would never sit there ever again.

          2. I like Sasabune. It's not uber-cheap, but you really are paying for the quality of the fish, and it's worth it.

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            1. re: saj1139

              I think Sasabune is serving mediocre fish, lousy rice, and their knife skills are also nothing special.

            2. It just occurred to me that if you love great fish, try Kyo Ya. It is an izakaya, but his fish is first class. Mr. Sono has a six seat bar in front of him. Have his sashimi and pressed fish dishes. His stuff is up there with the best.

              Kyo Ya
              94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

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              1. re: sushiman

                so about which place to grab some fish?

                1. re: sushiman

                  Best I can remember Kyo Ya has only one sushi offering a night. Great sashimi and the one pressed sushi is also great. If this has changed or I overlooked the sushi menu please let post soonest.

                  Kyo Ya
                  94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

                  1. re: wew

                    Sounds about right. You go and eat what is on the specials menu. You don't care if there is sushi. I don't ever remember eating sushi, he is not a sushi bar.

                    1. re: sushiman

                      OP states, "....looking for great sushi....sushi only not looking for food from the kitchen..."

                      "You go and eat what is on the specials menu. You don't care if there is sushi"

                      Maybe I missed something vital, maybe not.

                    2. re: wew

                      You are correct that Kyo Ya's fresh raw fish selection is limited, however I think it's 3-4 varieties a night. But to go there and NOT get anything from the kitchen is a travesty!

                      It's not really a sushi place and not where I would go to fulfill a serious nigiri craving.

                      1. re: kathryn

                        Agreed, but I was responding to an op that was specific about just eating sushi. In a certain mood or mind even the finest hot fudge, snow cone, or soft serve (gee, I love this weather) I guess won't do. In the case of Kyo Ya missing the goma tofu in cold dashi broth with the wasabi kicker would be missing a great fragrance of spring, but customer is what

                        Kyo Ya
                        94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

                  2. Sushi places i like: Sushiden, Megu, Nobu, Sushi seki, Kanoyama. I also think Bond St is pretty good at times and though not quite sushi, have always enjoyed Kyo Ya.

                    175 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                    105 Hudson Street, New York, NY 10013

                    Kyo Ya
                    94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

                    19 E 49th St, New York, NY 10017

                    62 Thomas St, New York, NY 10013