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1 night in SF: Bar Tartine or Pizzaiolo?

Bar Tartine or Pizzaiolo? Where would you eat?

TIA.

- Littleguy

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Pizzaiolo
5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

Bar Tartine
561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

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  1. I would do Bar Tartine. I think Pizzaiolo is over rated and its in Oakland. If you want that type of pizza try Pizzaria Delfina or A16...both in San Francisco.

    I personally prefer Marzanos over Pizzaiolo if you are going to be in Oakland. I go to Marzanos on College Av.

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    Pizzaiolo
    5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

    Delfina Restaurant
    3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

    Bar Tartine
    561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

    Marzano
    4214 Park Boulevard, Oakland, CA 94602

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    1. re: luckygrlllll

      Marzano's not in the same league as Pizzaiolo, especially if pizza's what you're in the mood for. That said, I don't know if I would trek over to Oakland if you only have one night in the city.

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      Pizzaiolo
      5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

      Marzano
      4214 Park Boulevard, Oakland, CA 94602

    2. Pizzaiolo, hands down, even though it's in Oakland. I'd go to Gialina's in Glen Park, over Bar Tartine, if you want something similar in the City. I'd do Range over Bar Tartine, too.

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      Gialina
      2842 Diamond St, San Francisco, CA 94131

      Pizzaiolo
      5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

      Bar Tartine
      561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

      1. Definitely Pizzaiolo over Bar Tartine, no contest if the choice is between the two. If you want to stay in SF, I'd pick other places over Bar Tartine (and I like Bar Tartine, though I haven't been there since the chef change), but Pizzaiolo is one of my favorite restarants in the Bay Area.

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        Pizzaiolo
        5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

        Bar Tartine
        561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

        1. Thanks for all the input. I think I will go with Pizzaiolo. Would have liked to try Bar Tartine for lunch, but it's not open. Maybe I will try Tartine?

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          Pizzaiolo
          5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

          Bar Tartine
          561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

          4 Replies
          1. re: littleguy

            Note that Tartine is a bakery, not a full-service restaurant. Don't get confused by Tartine Cafe on Gough, which is a separate operation entirely and not well-regarded.

            1. re: littleguy

              Tartine Bakery doubles as a cafe. Coffee, sandwiches, quiche, salad, pastries, cakes, tarts. Often a long line, order at the counter, can be tough to get a seat.

              http://www.tartinebakery.com/menu.html

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              Tartine Bakery
              600 Guerrero St, San Francisco, CA 94110

              1. re: littleguy

                Will you have a car? Pizzaiolo is technically accessible by public transportation, but you have to walk 3/4 mile walk each way from the BART station, part of it through a not particularly nice part of Oakland. I love Pizzaiolo, but the travel time alone, when you have only a day in SF, would be enough of a reason for me not to recommend it on this particular trip.

                If you *do* have a car, try to make a reservation in advance. If you can't make a reservation in advance, try to get there around opening time. Waits can be long, and again, with such a short trip, I don't think you want to spend that much time traveling and waiting. (There will be a wait at Pizzeria Delfina too, but less travel time.)
                If you're looking for a similar style of food, you could try Pizzeria Delfina in SF.

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                Pizzaiolo
                5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

                Pizzeria Delfina
                2406 California St, San Francisco, CA 94115

                1. re: daveena

                  Taxis are always to be found at a bart station when a train rolls in. Not always-always, but close enough. Thus you can get an easy one-way ride. If you like the experience, ask the waitperson to call you a cab when you're getting the check.

              2. I haven't been to Bar Tartine since the chef change either, but Pizzaiolo's great. I just had my best meal there ever:

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/693495

                For more or less that style of restaurant, Dopo is also great, but they don't take reservations and Pizzaiolo does.

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                Pizzaiolo
                5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

                Dopo
                4293 Piedmont Ave, Oakland, CA 94611

                Bar Tartine
                561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

                1. Thanks for all the helpful responses!

                  We will not have a car, but are New Yorkers and are accustomed to walking. We already have a reservation, so that's not an issue.

                  Just loved the Bar Tartine menu so much! Are there any restaurants with a similar style that are open for lunch? Greater proximity to my hotel than Mission/Berkeley/Oakland would be a plus. I am staying near the Ferry Building.

                  Thanks again.

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                  Bar Tartine
                  561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                  1. re: littleguy

                    I haven't been to Bar Tartine under the new chef, but the menu reminds me a bit of the one at Marlowe, which is open for lunch on weekdays.

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                    Bar Tartine
                    561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

                    Marlowe
                    330 Townsend St, San Francisco, CA 94107

                    1. re: Robert Lauriston

                      Thanks for the tip on Marlowe- it looks great!

                    2. re: littleguy

                      Just so you know, 3/4 mile in Oakland is *not * the same thing as 3/4 a mile in Manhattan. I guess if you're walking it during the day it will be ok, it's just not that nice.

                      Also, if you're coming from NYC, the style at Pizzaiolo is very similar to Motorino.

                      Were there any particular dishes on the Bar Tartine menu that interested you? To be clear, we're talking about the current, post-Jason Fox Bar Tartine, right?

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                      Pizzaiolo
                      5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

                      Bar Tartine
                      561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

                      1. re: daveena

                        Telegraph between MacArthur BART and Temescal is hardly desolate. It's quiet, but there's a restaurant or two in every block from 40th to 47th, and from there to 51st it's fairly lively.