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Is it too soon to ask? Who's the best in outdoor dining? George, Loire, Opus, Origin?

Googs Mar 27, 2010 09:28 AM

Can you say patio season?

  1. Ediblethoughts Apr 2, 2010 05:58 PM

    Grano's has a nice non-street-side patio. The food is hit and miss. And one of my discoveries (from my similar question post last year) for great food and patio was Torito in Kensington Market. Lilbaci on Queen East also had a good patio out back (and they serve those really good cupcakes...).

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    Torito
    276 Augusta Ave, Toronto, ON M5T2L9, CA

    Grano
    2035 Yonge St, Toronto, ON M4S2A2, CA

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      peppermint pate Apr 4, 2010 05:53 PM

      A hearty second on the rec for Torito - great patio, great food. Harbord Room has a lovely patio as well and food is very good. Back in the day, The Fifth was the most beautiful patio with cabanas, gorgeous, romantic, you really felt like you were somewhere else. The food used to be great but that was a few chefs ago and I have no idea what the food is like now. Agree that Terroni on Queen has a lovely "secret" patio. The new Terroni that's going in near Summerhill is meant to have a great second floor or rooftop patio but that won't open till later this summer. I know it's a bit off-topic but for a lovely coffee and croissant, the patio behind Ezra's Pound is a very pretty, quiet, hidden, leafy oasis - has a real New York feel.

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      Torito
      276 Augusta Ave, Toronto, ON M5T2L9, CA

      Ezra's Pound
      238 Dupont St, Toronto, ON M5R1V7, CA

      Harbord Room
      89 Harbord St, Toronto, ON M5S1G4, CA

    2. Rabbit Apr 2, 2010 02:33 PM

      Vertical has a pretty patio that is above the fray (can get cool-ish once the sun goes down).

      Amuse-Bouche has a front-garden-y space that is streetside but not too noxious because the street is quiet and semi-residential.

      The Fifth is a gorgeous space but last time I was there the food was not-great. Same deal with Ultra. Both places are a bit scene-y, but with great outdoor real estate.

      I also like Le Select's patio. It is streetside, but set back on a wide and not-too-busy street.

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      Le Select
      432 Wellington St W, Toronto, ON M5V1E3, CA

      Amuse-Bouche
      194 Locke St S, Hamilton, ON L8P4B4, CA

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        dubchild Apr 2, 2010 10:11 AM

        Personally, I prefer patios where cars aren't driving by. I know we love our patios, but the whole experience can be a little grimey.

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          Food Tourist Apr 2, 2010 10:22 AM

          Agree wholeheartedly. We could start a separate list of "secret garden" courtyard/backyard style patios. Terroni on Queen West has a nice one, for example, but food isn't my favourite.

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            jlunar Apr 2, 2010 10:52 AM

            Terroni's is nice, but that's why I loooove George's patio. It's a totally enclosed courtyard. Haven't eaten there in eons though.

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              Googs Apr 2, 2010 01:31 PM

              Zackly, jlunar. What I'm trying to compile is a list of must-dine at patios where both the food and the location are stellar. George's is enclosed, Loire is at least on a side street, Opus' has a secluded and leafy one in the back. Not sure about Origin yet, but I'll be investigating that very shortly. Throw out the tenants upstairs and take over their decks, I say.

              Does anybody know of other places where you can dine well and don't have to suck a tailpipe?

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                CocoaChanel Apr 2, 2010 01:40 PM

                There is a lovely roof top patio at The Fifth, the food is above average as well - though I admit it was almost a year ago when I last ate there

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                  jlunar Apr 2, 2010 04:10 PM

                  I liked desserts at The Fifth, less so their meals. But that's okay with me! Great patio though, as they keep the heaters on, making it cozy. The plastic tends to detract a bit, but keeps the wind out.

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                  Sarah Cat Apr 2, 2010 04:07 PM

                  Sidecar! Yes! Sidecar! It's a pretty little back patio (no tailpipe-sucking possible) and the food and service are both consistently above-average. And the value is fantastic. Get the prix fixe between Sunday and Monday!! Oooo, I want to go RIGHT NOW.

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              insideman Mar 29, 2010 02:27 PM

              Origin? Have they even had a body on the patio to serve yet?

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                Gary Mar 29, 2010 05:22 PM

                Chairs and tables would be nice, too. As of yesterday they had neither on the patio.

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                  Googs Mar 31, 2010 06:18 AM

                  Oh I know how young Origin is. I did put "is it to soon to ask" in the title. Even though tables and chairs and consistency may be a bit off, it'll all happen this year. Any discussion of what's best for 2010 would be remiss if it didn't include Claudio Aprile in some capacity, dontcha think?

                  Cocoachanel, I like Caren's as well. What I'm aiming for, though, is the very best of the best for food and patio. I've yet to try Sidecar. Must do soon.

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                    mramage Mar 31, 2010 07:37 AM

                    The good thing about the Origin patio is that it is on the West side, and should get a fair amount of sun late into the day.

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                      CocoaChanel Mar 31, 2010 03:24 PM

                      Ah. Fair enough. My mind went to excellent patios and above average food (for the various price points) :)

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                        Googs Apr 2, 2010 09:17 AM

                        Think "four stars under the stars".

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                          Food Tourist Apr 2, 2010 09:54 AM

                          I'm excited! I didn't realize George and Opus had al fresco dining and both are on my to-do list before July.

                  2. CocoaChanel Mar 27, 2010 09:34 AM

                    The patio at George is one of the most resplendent experiences in Toronto on a sunny afternoon.

                    Oh. And the food is pretty good too ;)

                    For more casual, I adore the back patio at Caren's and Sidecar

                    Is it summer yet? Please?

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