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Best "Old New York" Restaurants (stuck in the past)

Here are my entries for "Old New York" restaurants, patisseries, and bars:

Katz's Deli
Oyster Bar (in Grand Central)
De Robertis
Eisenberg's Sandwich Shop
P.J. Clarke's
Vivolo
Old Homestead
Ecco
Palm (on Second Avenue)
Keen's Chophouse
Wo Hop
Minetta Tavern (haven't been since the renovation)
Patsy's
Sardi's
Barbetta
Gene's
Gino's of Capri
Lexington Candy Shop
Bemelman's Bar at the Carlyle
Cafe Carlyle
Oak Bar at the Plaza
King Cole Bar at the St Regis
McSorley's
Peter Luger
John's
Lanza's
Cafe Edison
White Horse Tavern
Landmark Tavern
Old Town Bar
Manganaro's Grosseria
Marchi's
Donohue's
Fine & Shapiro
Algonquin Hotel

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De Robertis
176 1st Ave, New York, NY 10009

Minetta Tavern
113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

Eisenberg's Sandwich Shop
174 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

Barbetta
321 West 46th Street, New York, NY 10036

Old Homestead
56 9th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

P.J. Clarke's
44 W 63rd St, New York, NY 10023

Landmark Tavern
626 11th Ave, New York, NY 10036

Cafe Edison
228 W 47th St, New York, NY 10036

White Horse Tavern
567 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

Lexington Candy Shop
1226 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10028

Ecco
124 Chambers St, New York, NY 10007

Vivolo
140 E 74th St, New York, NY 10021

McSorley's Old Ale House
15 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

King Cole Bar
2 E 55th St, New York, NY 10022

Bemelmans Bar
35 E 76th St, New York, NY 10021

Marchi's
251 E 31st St Frnt A, New York, NY 10016

Wo Hop Restaurant
15 Mott St Frnt A, New York, NY 10013

The Cafe Carlyle
35 East 76th St., New York, NY 10021

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    Bridge Cafe
    Grimaldi's Pizza
    Lombardi's
    Raoul's
    Piccolo Angolo
    Sarge's
    Stage Deli
    Westway Diner

    www.thelunchbelle.com

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    Stage Deli
    834 7th Ave, New York, NY 10019

    Piccolo Angolo Restaurant
    621 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

    Westway Diner
    614 9th Ave, New York, NY 10036

    2 Replies
    1. re: LeahBaila

      Barbetta, Delmonico's

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      Barbetta
      321 West 46th Street, New York, NY 10036

      1. re: LeahBaila

        Grimaldi's? It cannot be stuck in any so-called past beyond this current context. It moved into its space a few years a go, and even the original opened in the 1990's!

      2. If you are talking about the 1960's old, Chat n' Chew is your best bet! But if you're going for the American-Revolution-old, you should try Fraunces Tavern. And for the in-betweens, try 21 club.

        www.inbundles.com

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        Fraunces Tavern
        54 Pearl St, New York, NY 10004

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        1. re: CantStopEating

          Patsy's on West 56th st., Steve and Eydie told us about it! How old school is that??

          1. re: CantStopEating

            I didn't remember Chat n Chew being there very long. Looked it up on Zagat and confirmed est. "Jan. 1994",

            1. re: CantStopEating

              I think that Fraunces Tavern stopped serving food recently and is now just a bar.

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              Fraunces Tavern
              54 Pearl Street, New York, NY 10004

              1. re: billyboy

                Not sure what was happening when billyboy posted back in 2010.

                Restaurant, bar and museum still open.

              2. re: CantStopEating

                CantStopEating, I'm thinking old New York is Fraunces old.

              3. Don't forget La Grenouille! It's been around since 1962... is that old world enough? :)

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                La Grenouille
                3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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                1. re: nycfinedining

                  Went to La Grenouille about 3 weeks ago. Had an AMAZING meal with seamless service.

                  Great place....

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                  La Grenouille
                  3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

                  1. re: Peter Cherches

                    Loved , loved loved Katz's! Oak Bar @ the Plaza where stayed for 3 nights was also very cool. :)

                  2. 21 Club
                    Ear Inn

                    [how's that for a chalk & cheese pairing!]

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                    1. re: Phil Ogelos

                      Gallagher's Steak House - like 21 Club was originally a speakeasy.

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                      21 Club
                      21 West 52nd Street, New York, NY 10019

                      1. re: Jane A.

                        Oh, and you've reminded me now, Jane,
                        about that place on Bedford, the name of which I'm forgotting, an honest-to-goodness speakeasy.
                        Wish I were there tonight.

                        1. re: Phil Ogelos

                          Chumley's. It's been closed for a while, ever since its chimney collapsed. Here, more information than you could possibly want:

                          http://ny.eater.com//tags/chumleys

                          1. re: small h

                            My goodness, that's so sad! What a marvelous place it was.
                            Thanks for sharing the news, small h, although I can't say it comforts me.
                            In fact, it makes me feel like a tired old bootlegger.


                            EDIT: after posting, I visited the ny.eater site. And you were absolutely right: everything I could ever want to know times ten. Thanks, and thanks to you & the link for reminding me why I'm grateful not to be living in the West Village.

                            1. re: Phil Ogelos

                              Chumley's was a treasure, and hopefully one day will be again. I also mourn the Cedar Tavern, which is gone forever. Alas.

                              http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/01...

                              1. re: small h

                                With Bradley's just a few doors down: alas squared!
                                I need to read some Dawn Powell today, just to dry my tears.

                                1. re: small h

                                  I loved Chumley's . . .
                                  remember quietly walking through the courtyard entrance.

                                  1. re: financialdistrictresident

                                    You're remembering a different place, fdr; Chumley's was accessed through a rowhouse door.

                                    1. re: Phil Ogelos

                                      Nope. @financialdistrict... is correct. It had a courtyard too. Just google Chumley's courtyard and you can see pics of it.

                              2. re: small h

                                Andy Boyle, who worked for me as stagedoorman, circa early 70s, at the ANTA Theatre, (now August Wilson Theatre) on 52nd Street, used to play the piano, during the speakeasy days, at Chumley's.

                                When Sinatra was in town, and took over Jilly's, which was across the street from the ANTA, Andy was one of a favored few allowed through the locked door when Sinatra was there. Andy’s nickname for him: “Frankie Boy.”

                                I'd get full reports from Andy about the goings on at Jilly's - food fights seemed to be Sinatra's thing.