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Best Black & Whites

rifkind81 Mar 19, 2010 12:39 PM

Who makes them best? I'm talking not to sweet icing, not to tough (nor to cakey) cookie, not too...well stale.

Points for Mid-Town...but I will travel for the best one.

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    Bone Thug n Hominy RE: rifkind81 Mar 19, 2010 05:10 PM

    Someone will inevitably suggest Glaser's and W Greenberg, both on the UES.

    I can't vouch for Greenberg's B&W, but I can tell you everything I've had there has been great. Glaser's, on the other hand, is awful. I wish it weren't so, because it's a cool old-school type of place, and a UES institution. But the baked goods there are uniformly terrible: cloyingly sweet, and just strange tasting.

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      uwsister RE: Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 20, 2010 11:45 PM

      I was about to say William Greenberg. I'm not a huge fan of B&W cookies and thought theirs were pretty good.

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        Striver RE: uwsister Mar 24, 2010 06:43 AM

        I like B&Ws, and also agree on William Greenberg - they're on the cakey side of the fence, but still have a good bite, and the frosting is very good, with clearly distinguishable chocolate and vanilla flavors. Haven't had Donut Pub's, though, which definitely sound worth a try.

        Donut Pub
        203 W 14th St, New York, NY 10011

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      addictedtolunch RE: rifkind81 Mar 20, 2010 01:58 AM

      It's a moving target. Changes from year to year, time of day you shop, which stores remain open, change shelf policy etc. My own list changes every year (back to liking it fresh at Pick a Bagel at this point, and was underwhelmed by Wm Greenberg's last week. Zaros has recovered).

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        windycity RE: addictedtolunch Mar 20, 2010 05:24 PM

        I have been pleasantly surprised by Pick a Bagel's B&W numerous times. My standby is Moishe's but it's definitely on the cakier side. Plus it's got a lemony kick.

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          PlomeekSoup RE: windycity Mar 23, 2010 12:09 PM

          Love Moishe's, but I'm going to have to try Donut Pub now...

          Donut Pub
          203 W 14th St, New York, NY 10011

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            windycity RE: windycity Mar 30, 2010 03:02 PM

            Got a B&W at Pick A Bagel today and it was really good and fresh - not too cakey, just right. I was going to save it for breakfast tomorrow, but it's all gone now.

        2. daffyduck RE: rifkind81 Mar 20, 2010 10:09 AM

          my favs donut pub. but it is a lttle on the cakier side

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            jenhen2 RE: daffyduck Mar 20, 2010 06:00 PM

            The best black and white does NOT change year to year or by time of day or anything else. The best is DONUT PUB. Period. DONUT PUB PERIOD. It's sublime.

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              iFat RE: jenhen2 Mar 21, 2010 03:50 PM

              couldn't agree more on Donut Pub, probably the best B&W i've had ever. I think about them daily.


              Donut Pub
              203 W 14th St, New York, NY 10011

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                Bone Thug n Hominy RE: iFat Mar 21, 2010 05:39 PM

                Crud. I went down there today to try them out, but got distracted by the marble cruller and cinnamon old fashioned.

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                  jenhen2 RE: Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 23, 2010 03:35 AM

                  I KNOW!!! It's so easy to get distracted in there! But you'll be very pleased if you can force yourself to focus, or, better yet, get one to go and have it later. Somehow, mine never last through the subway ride back to Astoria....

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                    Bone Thug n Hominy RE: jenhen2 Mar 23, 2010 06:06 PM

                    This was not the first time I went in for something else and ended up with that same combo. I'm even worse at Peter Pan (which I think makes the best donuts in the city*).

                    *I have not yet tried Holey Cream.

                    Holey Cream
                    796 9th Ave, New York, NY 10019

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                    daffyduck RE: Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 23, 2010 06:35 AM

                    i like their mini donuts better than their regular ones. i think my favorite is the red velvet mini donut. the old guy there is cool and always gives me a free donut when i go cause i get so many things lol. btw their oreo muffins pretty good too.

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                    fishermb RE: iFat Mar 24, 2010 05:35 AM

                    Absolutely second Donut Pub, always my favorite,not to mention that they're open 24 hours and they have some kickass donuts too while you're there.

                    Donut Pub
                    203 W 14th St, New York, NY 10011

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                      Striver RE: fishermb Apr 2, 2010 07:01 PM

                      Stopped at Donut Pub tonight just to try a black and white. Our consensus (me and Mrs. Striver) was that the cookie part was very good for those who prefer the cake-type cookie, and the vanilla side was flavorful. However, the chocolate side was lighter on the flavor, and was not chocolatey enough. Bottom line: we still prefer William Greenberg's.

                      Donut Pub
                      203 W 14th St, New York, NY 10011

              2. iluvcookies RE: rifkind81 Mar 21, 2010 07:36 AM

                I am partial to Junior's in Grand Central.

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                  rifkind81 RE: iluvcookies Mar 31, 2010 06:15 AM

                  I swung by Juniors in GCT last week and must say...it is the best black & white I have ever had. The only one that comes close is a black & white I had from a Shoprite in the 'burbs.

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                  mindy RE: rifkind81 Apr 3, 2010 09:21 AM

                  strange as it seems...pick a bagel 23rd and third

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                    windycity RE: mindy Apr 8, 2010 10:27 AM

                    Yeah but when they are stale it's really really bad. You can tell which ones are more stale by cracks in the frosting. I'd like to find a more consistent place.

                  2. NAtiveNewYorker RE: rifkind81 Apr 8, 2010 04:19 PM

                    Hot and Crusty, Grand Central, near the S Shuttle Train. Always fresh, nice cake/cookie balance, perfect icing. (Reminds me of the great coffee shop BW of my childhood.)

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                      rrems RE: rifkind81 Apr 8, 2010 07:58 PM

                      I'm no expert on this, but I recently had one from Zabar's that was delicious, light but not quite cakey, moist and not too sweet.

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