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Why don't they just sell Benriner boxes smeared with blood?

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dmd_kc Mar 14, 2010 08:41 PM

After all, it'd be truth in advertising. Talk about a gadget that works BETTER than advertised -- including on human flesh.

Anyone found a food-holder for a Benriner or other mandoline-type slicer that really works? Actually, the Benriner's is fine for the hard radishes I was just slicing -- but I get greedy and cut myself to pieces trying to get those last four millimeters or so cut up.

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  1. Chemicalkinetics RE: dmd_kc Mar 14, 2010 11:35 PM

    That sounds very painful. I hope you didn't have to go to hospital for your injury. Best.

    1. JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: dmd_kc Mar 15, 2010 02:32 AM

      Go to your local restaurant supply store and get yourself some cut resistant gloves. You'll still be able to move, and an accidental swipe won't leave you bleeding everywhere. I've had a mandoline cut and MAN do those ever suck. You have my full condolences.

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        dmd_kc RE: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Mar 15, 2010 10:13 PM

        You know, the gloves make a lot more sense than a better food holder!

        It only got one finger, and it wasn't terrible -- but these little razor cuts somehow hurt more than bigger ones, it seems. I'll survive.

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          JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: dmd_kc Mar 15, 2010 11:38 PM

          It's because you have more pain receptors in the tips of your fingers than you do elsewhere. I gave myself a REALLY good slice on my foot a couple of weeks ago and it didn't hurt nearly as much as your garden variety paper cut.

      2. grnidkjun RE: dmd_kc Mar 15, 2010 11:20 AM

        Oh boy.. I had received a mandoline as a wedding gift a long time ago.. I've been extremely hesitant to ever get another one.. I do acknowledge user clumsy-ness.. but those blades sticking straight up on the one I had received and it did not flow smoothly.. ended up with it making slashes from my palm up my wrist.. worst thing ever!

        (I should also state the one I had received was not benriner.. it was some "as seen on tv" junk)

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          hobbybaker RE: grnidkjun Mar 15, 2010 01:52 PM

          Auch. Hope your wound will heal soon. I bought a benriner (super benriner, the larger one) last year. So far no accident. My problem is how to store this properly. I use the original paper box but it won't last long. I wish they made a brade protector/cover for storing purpose.

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            grnidkjun RE: hobbybaker Mar 15, 2010 02:20 PM

            oh.. that was quite some time ago.. many years.. long since healed but left a fear of mandolines! :)

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              hobbybaker RE: grnidkjun Mar 15, 2010 02:27 PM

              Oh, that was meant to be for dmd, too. I am now considering a pair of gloves:)

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            Chemicalkinetics RE: grnidkjun Mar 15, 2010 03:22 PM

            You know. I have never own a mandoline. What is so good about it? Is it suppose to work faster than a kitchen knife? or is it supposed to be make more uniform cut than a knife? All I see is an expensive and yet dangerous toy.

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              ipsedixit RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 15, 2010 03:53 PM

              Yeah, I think good (or even decent) knife-work is quickly becoming a lost art.

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                Chemicalkinetics RE: ipsedixit Mar 15, 2010 06:05 PM

                ipsedixit,

                Hey dude. Well, I think if I am to make thousands of potato chips, then a Mandoline will be quiet useful for consistent and repetitive works. However, I feel like the work of washing a Mandoline outweighs its benefit for typical home cook, like slicing two tomatoes.

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                  Quine RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 17, 2010 02:43 AM

                  The one the Op is mentioning is small, quick and very easy to use. It is
                  also cheap and good quality. http://benriner.com/ I've had and well used mine for well over 15 years with no loss of sharpness,
                  I have really good knife skills and more over actually enjoy slicing and dicing. And I still use the Benriner often,

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                    Chemicalkinetics RE: Quine Mar 17, 2010 07:17 AM

                    Quine,

                    Maybe you are right. I just thought it take more time to wash it than to cut the food. I guess I were thinking more in the line of a food processor. If I have only a few things to cut, I rather use a knife than a food processor. I have more control with a knife, but most importantly it is easier to wash my knife than the food processor. Oh yes, same logic for my garlic press.

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                      ipsedixit RE: Quine Mar 17, 2010 09:06 AM

                      I actually find it therapeutic sometimes to chop and dice up a big bowl of julienned carrots, for example.

                      I used to hate it as a kid when my parents made me do it, but now I almost look forward to it. I get into a rhythm and sort of fall into a meditative state.

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                        Chemicalkinetics RE: ipsedixit Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM

                        I hope you don't fall asleep as you fall into a meditative state.

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                          Quine RE: ipsedixit Mar 17, 2010 03:56 PM

                          I know what you mean! After a day of work which is all mental, it is so nice to work with my hands slicing and dicing. When I was researching and writing my senior thesis; I was so mentally wound up. I didn't realize how much my knife skills also improved. I attended a pot luck and one of the Art Professors awed over my perfect diced veggies.

                          The benrier is a great addition to the kitchen, as easy to clean as your knife. Now those more complex French style ones,,,no way.

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                            hobbybaker RE: Quine Mar 17, 2010 04:15 PM

                            Strongly agree. It saves time when a lot of slices are necessary. For me it is very useful when I make a sald, for which I need many thin uniformed slices of various vegis quickly. Also, for cakes and tarts with many thin sliced fruits on it. On the same token, even though I can cut and peel apples, I use my corer & devider for apples for applepies. Initially I did all of these with a knife, but it takes just too much time.

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                              scubadoo97 RE: Quine Mar 17, 2010 05:49 PM

                              I have both, the Bron and the Benriner. The Benriner is used 98% more than the Bron. I actually bought a 2nd Benriner, the large one. Thought I would use it more since it was bigger but I really don't use a madoline that much unless I'm in a hurry or need very uniform cuts

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                                hobbybaker RE: scubadoo97 Mar 17, 2010 05:51 PM

                                scubadoo, how do you store the benriner? I still use the original paper box, but I do not believe it will last longer. I do not want to take off the brade every time and do not want keep it in a drawer without putting it in someting.

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                                  Quine RE: hobbybaker Mar 18, 2010 02:37 AM

                                  Gee I still store mine in the original box.

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                                    scubadoo97 RE: hobbybaker Mar 18, 2010 05:32 AM

                                    I store them all in the original boxes with the stage tuned up so the blade is not exposed.

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                                      hobbybaker RE: scubadoo97 Mar 19, 2010 09:53 AM

                                      So, for the time being, even if the original paper boxes are smeared with blood, we cannot throw them away... LOL. OK, I will look for a plastic container which is long enough to store it at office depot or so:)

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                                    Chemicalkinetics RE: scubadoo97 Mar 17, 2010 06:01 PM

                                    Scubadoo,

                                    What's up. Sounds like you don't like the Bron one huh? Too much work to use it or too much work to clean it?

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                                      scubadoo97 RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 18, 2010 05:35 AM

                                      I find the blade on the Benriner sharper and the Bron is just bigger, takes more time to set up and I like the julienne cuts better on the Benriner. I actually took off the julienne blades off the Bron. They would sometimes get in the way of a straight cut. The only thing the Bron can do that the Benriner can't is a waffle cut. The Bron is wider, sturdier and can stand on it's own so that's a plus as well.

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                          white light RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 15, 2010 05:22 PM

                          You can get very thin, consistent cuts quickly with them. The model discussed in this thread isn't really expensive (around 20us)

                          http://www.amazon.com/Kyocera-carbon-...

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                            Chemicalkinetics RE: white light Mar 15, 2010 05:59 PM

                            Whitelight,

                            Thanks. I have seen some expensive ($60-300) Mandoline and I presume those work better.

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                              JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 15, 2010 11:43 PM

                              Not necessarily. Kyocera knows what they're doing with blades. And there are some very expensive mandolines out there that mangle whatever you're trying to slice.

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                                Chemicalkinetics RE: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Mar 16, 2010 12:08 AM

                                JK,

                                Yes, I heard that the Shun Mandoline (>$300) is pretty bad despite with high quality blades. Well, bad for being so expensive and average performance.

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                                  Paulustrious RE: Chemicalkinetics Jun 18, 2010 10:32 AM

                                  I can recommend the ceramic blade Kyoceras. Easy to use, very easy to wash, hangs on a hook and fiercely sharp. Worked better than the Shun mandoline.

                                  http://www.amazon.com/Kyocera-Double-Mandolin-Slicer-Yellow/dp/B0024NKK7E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1276881925&sr=1-3

                                  Has anyone used the variable thickness version? http://www.amazon.com/Kyocera-Adjusta...

                                  It gets compliments from most people with a full complement of fingers.

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                                    beachmouse RE: Paulustrious Jun 18, 2010 01:08 PM

                                    Count me as another fan of the cheap Kyocrea. I don't use a mandolin enough to justify paying a lot for one, and I feel like I get a high level of performance out of that $20 model for when I do find a reason to use it.

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                                      Chemicalkinetics RE: beachmouse Jun 18, 2010 01:36 PM

                                      Thanks Paul and beachmouse,

                                      It seems the Kyoceras ones are something I can try.

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                            hobbess RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 15, 2010 11:57 PM

                            I've got one of those fancy, stainless steel Bron mandolines and the irony is time saved turns out to be a washout for me. Yes, it slice faster than a kitchen knife but it's also a pain to set up and figure out how to use each time.

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                              sel RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM

                              I bought a Super Benriner a couple of years ago and primarily use it to cut up green papaya for som tum. Works better, much quicker and more uniform cut than my good but not professional knife skills would produce. No accidents yet but I don't try to push that last thin piece past the scalpal sharp blades!

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                                Chemicalkinetics RE: sel Mar 18, 2010 11:43 PM

                                I bet 80% of mandoline accidents are "let get the last bit" accident.

                          3. scubadoo97 RE: dmd_kc Mar 16, 2010 09:33 AM

                            yes you do have to be careful with that last bit. I use the guard on many things but have recently been slicing asparagus into thin ribbons along with zucchini for salads. The asparagus is one item you need to go a little slower with. I find if I use my hand and flex the palm and fingers up a bit I can slice the asparagus cleanly with no nicks, cuts or lost digits. The only place I still get cut is from the heels of my J-knives. Usually just a inattentive bump to the heel will split a finger.

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                              Kelli2006 RE: dmd_kc Mar 16, 2010 09:48 AM

                              You need to get a protective glove and toss out the silly hand guard that doesn't work. Ive been recommending a Rapala filleting glove that are available from sporting f goods stores, but you can spend almost a hundred dollars online for a stainless mesh professional glove.

                              http://www.amazon.com/Rapala-BPFGL-Fillet-Glove-Large/dp/B001NXC7RW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1268758060&sr=8-1

                              The Victorinox glove is also a good buy, http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Cutl...

                              I agree with Ipsedixit that proficient knife skills are becoming a lost art because a mandoline should only be used for very fine repetitive cuts and not general slicing. I have a OXO mandoline and the only time that I use it is when I make a potato gratin.

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                                falconress RE: dmd_kc Mar 19, 2010 08:57 PM

                                LOL, I never once used that damn gadget without turning my guests into accidental cannibals. Luckily, it only happened three times in a several-decades long career of cooking and having friends over, because after the third time I chucked it, together with the somewhat-bloodied, half-cut veggies, into the trash bin, in midst of prepping for a Saturday lunch.

                                OK, I never actually served the blood-tainted food, just making a point. No matter how careful I was - and of course I used the safety pusher, I couldn't go near the thing without taking a healthy slice out of my hand. And I'm not clumsy anywherer else in the kitchen. No problem with knives, hot stuff, scissors, old-fashioned manual can openers with no soft "ergonomic" grips. I'm fine with everything, except the mandoline.

                                Thank god for Cuisinart and its slicing disks.

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                                  dmd_kc RE: falconress Mar 20, 2010 08:19 PM

                                  Heh, I threw out a big batch of garlic a couple weekends ago as I was getting ready for a dinner party -- just cuz it included a good chunk of my left index finger and its nail. Both those things look a LOT like garlic!

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                                    Chemicalkinetics RE: dmd_kc Mar 20, 2010 08:21 PM

                                    Ok, you people are making these mandoline the most dangerous thing in a kitchen.

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                                      dmd_kc RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 20, 2010 11:11 PM

                                      Oh, this escapade was with a good old chef's knife, retrieved from the sharpening service earlier in the day. I have PLENTY of ways to slash my flesh.

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                                        Quine RE: Chemicalkinetics Mar 21, 2010 07:23 AM

                                        Alot of these accidents happen as a result of LACK of common sense. Trying to use up that last tiny little piece; trying to slice something that is just plain too tiny, I.e. garlic cloves There are special slicers for those; such as :
                                        http://www.cooking.com/products/shpro...

                                        Talking over shoulder while rapidly slicing etc.

                                        It's not the tool that is dangerous but rather the people who use it.

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                                          Duppie RE: Chemicalkinetics Jun 18, 2010 11:10 AM

                                          My microplane has seen more than it's share of plasma in it's short history and that stainless monstrosity has resigned it's self to a peaceful and blood free existence in the basement.

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                                            Chemicalkinetics RE: Duppie Jun 18, 2010 01:17 PM

                                            Ha ha ha. Plasma :) You should it has anti-coagulant somewhere? :P Just kidding. I can see microplane being dangerous. Luckly, I have yet to cut myself with me. I guess my original statement really meant: "You people make it sounds like these mandolines are the most dangerous thing in a kitchen. Why don't we use a knife then?"

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                                              Duppie RE: Chemicalkinetics Jun 18, 2010 04:34 PM

                                              Trust me ,I do but it takes 2 1/2 day of diligent labor to make 1 portion of waffle fries.

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                                      amazinc RE: dmd_kc Mar 21, 2010 11:57 AM

                                      Found a $20 steel/mesh glove at Sunset Hardware in San Antonio,TX, and solved my "fearof Benriner". I had given a B. mandolin to a friend and bought one for myself. He told me horror tales of sliced ends of fingers (oh, the pain!), so I'd never taken it out of its box. Now, I'm slicing everything in sight with not a cut nor a fear. Since there's no blood
                                      involved, I'm storing it in its original box!

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                                        will47 RE: dmd_kc May 31, 2010 12:46 AM

                                        I've heard that a (clean) side towel works pretty well too. Probably not quite as safe as a glove, but easier than the pusher thing that comes with it.

                                        1. SanityRemoved RE: dmd_kc Jun 18, 2010 09:12 PM

                                          I used to work with broken porcelain insulators and can vouch for the effectiveness of kevlar gloves(the yellow ones). But I would buy a pair and test the glove that I would rarely use by sticking a potato inside the glove and see how it fairs against a mandolin. Better to know its limitations than to have blind faith.

                                          1. Stephanie Wong RE: dmd_kc Jun 19, 2010 01:04 AM

                                            So new owners can provide their own?

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