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Point Richmond: Up & Under Pub and Grill – The Richmond prick and the BEST po’boy I’ve had in my life … WOW

rworange Mar 14, 2010 04:28 PM

The oyster, clam and shrimp po’boy was the special on Thursday.

It was the last one, selling out at 2pm

It is the best I’ve ever had. It should be their signature dish and not just a special.

More than an inch of seafood coated in a great beer batter rested on the perfect slaw which did what slaw should always do for fried food, cut the richness.

The lightly toasted Maggioni’s roll held the substantial contents without flaw and didn’t fall apart as a lesser roll might have. No slaw or seafood fell out of it. This is the first item from that baker that I ever really liked.

Cut in half, each half was massive and could have easily fed two, but I scarfed down every last magically delicious bite.

It was served next to a mound of the best fries … period. They were the size of McDonald’s fries but not greasy, just potato perfection.

All this wonderfulness was $8.95. It was a stunning price for not only the quality, but the quantity. It is definitely on my top ten tastes of 2010 list

We shared an appetizer - The Richmond prick … crispy beer-battered cactus with chipotle aioli

Delicious wide strips of nopales were served with an aioli so good, I scraped the remainder out of the bowl. Lightly dressed greens were also on the plate.

My friend had the chili and the chicken sandwich. I had a taste of the chili and it was very good.

The chicken sandwich was also substantial and looked terrific. My friend who I have dragged to my favorite Brazilian spot and Café Citti in Sonoma during the week looked up after his first bite and said I ruined him with all of these wonderful meals because now he wants to eat like this all the time.

The next day we went back and split a clam chowder and a fish and chips.

The creamy, thick clam chowder was very good, a slight variation on the classic, but this New England native liked it. My friend really liked it. It had some melted cheddar in it and that worked really well

The tasty fish had a light-as-air, crisp, greaseless coating. The two long filets of moist, perfectly cooked white fish came with excellent dilled tartar sauce.

This is a great pub atmosphere … long wooden bar … one booth that had carved eagles. There is a lovely copper ceiling with rugby shirts strung along the walls. An internet jukebox is on one wall and a few TV’s are scattered on the ceiling. Colorful paintings of Point Richmond brighten a back wall. At the table next to us, a group was playing cards.

The friendly, upbeat server Megan did a super job. She was like someone central casting would pick as the ideal pub worker right down to her name. She steered us to some good eats and helped make the whole experience fun.

Too stuffed for dessert but glancing at the menu, I asked Megan to recommend a dessert for next time. She said the seasonal fruit crisp was great and so was the “Sin Bin”, s’mores with vanilla ice cream

Our second visit lacked Megan. The service was fine but not as special as that first time. It gets loud when it is full and a group seated next to us was excessively loud, at times shouting across the room to friends. It was a celebration and my gift to the birthday boy was not to glare at him and tell him to keep it down to a mild roar.

I don’t know if anyone else has reported about the place since I haven’t had much time for chowhound recently. A while back antarticwidow posted the menu but had not it yet. Don’t even have enough time to search for her post.

The hours are
Mon-Sat 11am-10pm
Sun 3pm – 10 pm

Food service ends at 10pm. Last call is midnight

There was a sign promising ‘corned beef chaos’ on St. Patrick’s Day. I am so there

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Up & Under Pub and Grill
2 W Richmond Ave, Richmond, CA 94801

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  1. wolfe RE: rworange Mar 14, 2010 05:42 PM

    Menu on website.
    http://www.theupandunder.com/menu-2/

    1. AntarcticWidow RE: rworange Mar 15, 2010 01:10 PM

      RW, glad you could chow here before you leave. With it being a pub and all, I was going to hold off until after Easter (gave up alcohol for Lent) but after your review, I might have to check out the corned beef on St. Patrick's Day. Lunch sounds like a deal.

      Link to my original post: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/687078

      I know you will be heading towards Central America soon, but thought I'd put one more eatery on the radar: La Perla's Delicatessen. It's on the southwest corner of Fourth and Nevin Streets in Richmond and has been there forever. I haven't been in ages, but one of my favorites was their pork over potatoes with sour cream and cheese. Ummmmm ... if I hadn't already had lunch I'd drive over right now.

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        sydthekyd RE: AntarcticWidow Mar 15, 2010 05:04 PM

        Are they the same owners as "La Perla" closed restaurant?

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          AntarcticWidow RE: sydthekyd Mar 15, 2010 06:04 PM

          I don't know about a La Perla restaurant, only the deli. They closed for a week in February for "restoration and minimal relaxation", according to a post on their Facebook page. The deli is definitely open.

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          La Perla Delicatessen
          338 Nevin Ave, Richmond, CA 94801

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            rworange RE: sydthekyd Mar 24, 2010 10:51 PM

            I initially thought you lost your mind

            Richmond; La Perla Mexican Deli- Since 1949 serving pork over potatoes with cheese and sourcream ,,, and ribs ... and spaghetti
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/697057

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            La Perla Cafe
            224 Lux Ave, South San Francisco, CA 94080

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            gordon wing RE: AntarcticWidow Mar 15, 2010 05:43 PM

            I called them and they plan to have corned beef from "the time we open until closing"

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              rworange RE: AntarcticWidow Mar 16, 2010 12:24 PM

              I get nervous about any pub on st. patty's day .... so if it isn't great, don't judge it by that day.. however, i have got to find out who is running that kitchen before i go. it is sheer genius.

              my car seems to have chowhound sensibilities. after breaking down in front of la bedaine, it started acting up near up and under.

              so i got the classic burger. this is without a doubt the best burger in the bay area.

              it is everything i want in a burger ... charbroiled ... the medium a perfect medium ... what medium means to me. choice of four cheeses. i went with cheddar which was great.

              the bun was just absolute perfection ... no stinking sourdough roll ... no clueless artisan bun falling apart ... bun classic .... great ... great ... great

              the bun itself was ever so gently toasted on the inside and may have had a light brush of butter.

              a slice of red onion, lettuce and two tomato slices were on the side.

              what can i say .... it was served with a perfect dill pickle spear.

              it comes with the fabulous fries, but i've been heavy on the fast food, so i asked for green salad with blue cheese dressing which was very good.

              i had the draft harp this time. last time i had the draft boddlington's.

              the only nit was the bartender who really should be in another profession. they really should re-think this woman. the only reason i mention it is as a warning. if you get this woman, she is the only one like that there.

              with the hundreds of restaurants i've eaten at, i've never experienced this before.

              think of the character of carla on cheers. she was like that but without the personality, warmth or charisma ... and carla had none of those ... this woman had less. . i seriously have never encountered not only a more unpleasant server in my life ... i haver rarely encountered a more unpleasant person period in my life.

              not only did she not smile ... actually she did once at someone who did takeout ... and that was scarier than not smiling ... she seemed to take the order itself as an insult.

              there are five beers on tap. i forgot the names and asked what they were and she wouldn't answer me. getting her attention was difficult ... and i was sitting at the bar (which is copper not wood as i previously reported) ... there were two other people sitting at the bar so it was not busy.

              she refused to substitute salad for fries, saying in a tone of disgust 'no substitutions'. i had to call the manager over. it turned out she just didn't know how to enter substitutions.

              i was waiting to be rescued from my car problem by my husband and killing time. as i ordered dessert, he walked in and i told her to cancel. she literally let out a loud audible sigh.

              and yes, kiddies, i did tip. the one good thing she did was lend me the phone to call my husband so that merited a tip.

              if i have time i'll try to find out what is going on with her. it wasn't just me. other than the takeout order she treated everyone like that.

              anyway, be forwarned. try to sit elsewhere if you see her. the food is very much worth the detour

              thanks for the la perla tip. time should be easing up over the next few days until i leave ... again ... the absurdity of breaking down two blocks from the house the first time ... well. i guess it is good though .we would have hit mexico otherwise just as that drug war was in high gear ... and breaking down on a mexico backroad ... shudder ... it was for the best in the end ... and otherwise i never would have tried this great bar.

              i'm not doing an e.e. cummings thing here. as everything else that has been screwed up over the last three weeks, but shift key stopped working .... except with diffiulty

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                sydthekyd RE: rworange Mar 16, 2010 04:05 PM

                Donde esta up and under?

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                  wolfe RE: sydthekyd Mar 16, 2010 04:13 PM

                  I swear the map was right up there ^ 30 minutes ago. What happened?

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                    AntarcticWidow RE: sydthekyd Mar 16, 2010 04:26 PM

                    syd, it's in point richmond at railroad and west richmond avenues. building is deep red with black and dark green trim. can't miss it. there's a statute in the window of the second floor, too.

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                      wolfe RE: AntarcticWidow Mar 18, 2010 12:45 PM

                      As you come down E. Richmond Street like the prow of a big red ship, slightly truncated, is the restaurant. According to Google it used to be the dully gray painted
                      The Point. The closed Chinese restaurant Red Pepper, also red, is just to the right.

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                      Red Pepper Restaurant
                      130 Railroad Ave, Richmond, CA 94801

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                        ptrichmondmike RE: wolfe Dec 27, 2010 02:36 PM

                        The Red Pepper is definitely NOT closed. Not recommended, either.

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                        Red Pepper Restaurant
                        130 Railroad Ave, Richmond, CA 94801

                  2. re: rworange
                    wolfe RE: rworange Mar 18, 2010 12:36 PM

                    "the bun was just absolute perfection ... no stinking sourdough roll ... no clueless artisan bun falling apart ... bun classic .... great ... great ... great"
                    Agreement on the burger but slight disagreement on the bun. Good size and texture but mine didn't hold up as well. I suspect this is a guy thing. I notice at staff lunches, when I worked, that the women invariably cut their sandwiches in half, The guys just grab the sucker, no matter how large and chow down. The Outside Center is a big burger and with the condiments and side accoutrements had a tendency to slide, tearing the bun.
                    I suspect you cut it which would make it more manageable .

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                      rworange RE: wolfe Mar 18, 2010 01:09 PM

                      yep. you are psychic. I cut it in half. It is kind of a large burger ... too much for my dainty fingers.

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                        rworange RE: wolfe Mar 19, 2010 12:23 AM

                        Took a friend there tonight. The thing with this particular guy is that he loves great food, but when we get together for dinner it is a flop. Even on our visit a year or two ago to Ubuntu, that restaurant had an off night.

                        No exception tonight.

                        He did not care for the Richoond prick, though I still like it

                        We split an order of the The Crash a burger stuffed with Blue Cheese, Bacon. Caramelized Onion .

                        The positive is they split the plate beautifully ... each of us got the pickle/onion/lettuce/tomato on the side and we each got a catsup. They did a nice job of this.

                        To get the inside to melt, they cook the burger longer which dries it out too much and the center was fine, but didn't make up for the dry part. The classic burger is better.

                        Also, I'm wondering if they ran out of buns today. The bun for this was more like a round Ciabatta roll and we had the problem you described ... even cut in half ... with stuff falling out and the bun quitting.

                        The Sin Bin reminded me more of a mallomar than S'mores. The two small, marshmalllow topped cookies reminded me both in size and concept. I thought they were tasty, though small. A large strawberry and cup creme fraiche, completed this.

                  3. rworange RE: rworange Sep 2, 2010 08:27 AM

                    Anyone been lately?

                    There was an East Bay Express review today
                    http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/sco...

                    It sounds like the menu changed a bit, with more pub grub. It also sounds like they might not have the same chef.

                    Interesting info about Pt Richmond and the location of the restaurant. It seems at onetime Pt Richmond supported 42 active bars. There's even a rest room report " the restrooms feature Vetrazzo sinks inset with recycled broken booze bottles."

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                      gordon wing RE: rworange Sep 2, 2010 09:09 AM

                      I was there with some friends at the end of July - enjoyed the slow roasted pork sandwich ( $12.95 ) with slaw and fries. It was a big sandwich. Others had the 3 tacos special - looked interesting but I remember it being OK - no oohs and ahhs from those who ordered it. And the price was in the $8-9 range IIRC ?? I've had the fish and chips in the past - the Pork Sandwich is definitely my favorite item so far.

                       
                       
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