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Mar 11, 2010 10:16 AM

craving vs. respect

What are the places you crave more than your respect?

This can be places you don't respect, but do crave. But I'm even more interested in the places you do respect, but crave even more.

I just realized that the thought that links the two threads I started recently (Slaw Dogs: and Honey Kettle: is that they're both places where my craving for them outstrips my respect for them. (Honey Kettle: respect, medium; craving, high. Slaw Dogs: respect, very high; craving, inconceivably high.) Where they speak directly the language of the animal hindbrain. And I don't mean in a dumb way, like salt-fat - but to the deep balances that totally satisfy my on a physical and low-soul level.

I thing Sokongdong Soontofu is also like that for me.


What is it that makes them so?


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  1. Gilbert's El Indio is like that for me. I know on an academic level that the food is not great and that it's usually covered in unnaturally orange cheese and that I shouldn't love it like I do. But I can't help it. When I haven't been in a couple of weeks like right now, I feel like my life force is a little weaker.

    Conversely, I very much respect Melisse and Providence but I don't ever crave them. Oh, and Persian and Italian food. I really respect the cuisines of both cultures, but I don't crave them.

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    1. re: mollyomormon

      wholeheartedly agree. i've been touting this place on ch as much as i can

    2. Langer's. It garners disrespect by some here because it is a "one trick pony" (but the pony does a trick worth of Ringling Brother's Barnum & Bailey) and the crave factor makes it draw me back like a giant, sucking black hole at the center of the known pastrami Universe (would that be a type of Pastramiverse? Take a haiku with that, Mr Thi!... ;-D>).

      1. Amigo's in Pasadena. I've never had anything BAD there, but any passion expressed by the kitchen is imperceptible, if indeed it does exist. But they have killer margaritas, one of the best juke boxes anywhere (and NEVER ANY MARIACHIS!!), they're all really nice people, and it's one of the jolliest places I know to go for Marg Therapy, whether it's just me and Mrs. O or a bunch of the lads from the neighborhood, in which case we do pitchers! And I am really very fond of their (admittedly gloppy) chiles rellenos.

        1. HAMBURGER AT YUCA'S. Crave the leftover grease from the carne asada that always seems to coat the burger patties with an other-wordly type of deliciousness. Any Mexican-burger stand could replicate this, but they serve so many tacos that the carne asada coating on their grill is leaps and bounds above every other joint in the city.

          CREAM SOUP IN FRIED TOAST AT PA PA WALK. How can you not crave spooning faux clam chowder with giant pieces of what amountS to essentially deep-fried melba toast?

          CHILI CHEESE FRIES AT THE HAT. Sometimes I just crave heart burn. Crazy stupid, I know. But still ....

          BLACK SESAME CHIPS FROM CATHY'S BAKERY. They're like Chicharron, except they're made from deep fried dough with black sesame seeds mixed in. Maybe it's more like a Chinese tortilla chip, but whatever ... damn good stuff.

          PERROS FROM SUPER PERROS (in Tallahassee). Ok, maybe this isn't right because it's not in Los Angeles, but how can a person not crave a Perros? Hot dogs, special sauce, cheese and ... get this! ... crushed potato chips! And the fact I can only get this at some local joint more than 2000 miles away makes me crave it even more ... [sigh]

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          1. re: ipsedixit

            Hi ipsedixit,

            Nice. :) I've heard about Pa Pa Walk. Is there anything else worth ordering there? Thanks.

            1. re: ipsedixit

              >>CHILI CHEESE FRIES AT THE HAT. Sometimes I just crave heart burn. Crazy stupid, I know. But still ....<<

              I can't get myself to order this - it just looks like a slow methodical attempt at suicide. Please don't tell me that you individually put down one order!

              1. re: bulavinaka

                Once when I was still in middle school, my younger brother and I each had a chili cheese dog and split an order of chili cheese fries at the Temple City location. We were in such pain afterward...

                1. re: bulavinaka

                  I do this about twice a year, and usu. it's with an order of their french dip.

                  Good times!

                  1. re: ipsedixit

                    or my standard order of the pastrami triple dipped in the pan juices and an order of chili cheese fries with pickles and chopped tomatoes. and a diet coke to wash it all down.

                    1. re: kevin

                      "...and a diet coke to wash it all down."

                      That diet coke is important. Wouldn't want to have a high caloric lunch now would you? ;-D>

                2. re: ipsedixit

                  Supper perros are Colombian hot dogs. I just had one in Bogota in December, they are outrageously good. Mine also had crushed potato chips, and I saw another one with quail eggs.

                  1. re: streetgourmetla

                    oh, yeah, i think there is a joint right next door to europane in pasadena that serves these up.

                      1. re: kevin

                        Hmm....I noticed the place's website says it's for sale. There is a new place called Tutti Frutti that just opened on Artesia (just east of Sepulveda) in Manhattan Beach in what was the old Fatburger place. Is it a chain? It would make investigating the Columbian hot dog a lot closer for me.

                3. Orange nacho-cheese nachos at Carnitas Michoacan