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Folia Grill for souvlaki & other grilled food at Pape & Cosburn

I haven't had a chance to try Folia Grill yet, but I've recently heard good things from a friend who knows her souvlaki. I'll report back once I've had a chance to try out a few dishes on the menu.

website: http://www.foliagrill.com/

http://www.foliagrill.com/gallery.html

http://www.blogto.com/restaurants/fol...

Thanks jayseeca, for linking to the blogTO page in the zucchini stick thread. My friend had told me about Folia Grill about 2 weeks ago, saying it was worth trying, and your link reminded me of her recommendation for the souvlaki!

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  1. I took a peek at the website and there is a lovely photo of a romaine lettuce salad with dill, yet I didn't see it on their menu. Is this seasonal, I wonder? I'd love to hear about the flavours in the chicken gyro and the biftekia. It certainly looks like a great little place to get some quality food, versus the myriad offerings of mediocre fare at many of the souvlaki joints along the Danforth. I hope this place is a cut (or two!) above those. I really hope their tzatziki has a good garlic hit.

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    1. re: 1sweetpea

      The Romaine and dill salad is on the menu under "appetizers" for $3.75

      1. re: 1sweetpea

        Hi 1sweetpea, the romaine and dill salad (aka maroulosalata) is listed on the appetizers section of the online menu;-)

        I'm also hoping this place turns out to be a cut above the rest ;-)

      2. Finally tried Folia. Ordered the pork and chicken souvlaki and the dill and romaine salad. All delicious, and fresh. The chicken was uber tender, and the pork perfectly cooked and juicy. The tzatziki in particular was absolutely delicious, definitely a cut above most of the awfully bland ones out there.

        The owners were extremely nice, and I immediately noticed how clean the restaurant is. There are only about 5 or 6 tables, and it didn't appear to be licensed, although the Blog TO review indicates otherwise. I didn't think to ask as I was getting take out. The prices are extremely reasonable. A perfect neighbourhood take out. I want to try the biftekia next.

        I will definitely be back. Thanks for posting Phoenikia!

        SWS

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        1. re: Splendid Wine Snob

          My pleasure, SWS.

          Happy to hear it was a good experience!

        2. Swung by Folia for lunch and it was outstanding. It's a real "labour of love" type spot. The chicken gyro was so delicious and moist, and the aforementioned zucchini sticks, I could eat those every week. This place is a little gem, no doubt.

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          1. re: childofthestorm

            Super clean, friendly, 12 seat operation about 2 blocks south of O'Connor.
            Do not confuse with Filo.
            Had the chicken pita ($4) which was moist, flavourful and ridiculously generous.
            The biftekia and pork skewers look great but I was too stuffed to try.
            They have a beer and wine licence though it is certainly not obvious.

            1. re: sumdumgoy

              i would also welcome a review of Filo. i live 2 blocks away and am scared of it. one person told me they ate there and it was okish

          2. We tried Folia for lunch today.

            In short it was really good Greek fast food. The owners know the food they are inspired by very well and they do an excellent job at making it. I have no quibbles about the food at all.

            When you first walk in the decor is so nice and clean it takes a second to realize that the service is fast food style, not waited tables. There were only two staff, a woman doing most of the cooking and a guy who did everything else, looking at the website these are the owners.

            There was a little bit of business over getting a table despite their being 12 seats and only 5 other patrons. The table we wound up at was interesting as it was directly opposite the kitchen so we got to watch the action. For what is basically a fast food joint I was generally impressed, in particular that the salads were made fresh from fresh ingredients, OK the french fries were frozen from a bag but everything else except the pita bread (which was excellent) seemed to be made in house (in some cases, like the bifteki and the zucchini sticks obviously pre-made but not brought in frozen). All of the food looked really good and the portions were beyond generous. So here's the first caution, there's one cook, there's really no expediting and some things like hand chopping veggies for each village salad to order take a little time, we we're cool with this, well worth it for well prepared food, but some of the patrons who came in for takeout seemed a little annoyed.

            There were a bunch of really minor service hiccups while we were there, nothing that was enough to put me off the place, but things that felt like first week jitters which shouldn't still be there as they have been open for a few months now.

            We each had a pork souvlaki pita and shared an order of the zucchini sticks, that and two bottles of water came out to less than 15 bucks for both of us. I don't remember ever getting out of Messini's for less than double that price. The sandwiches were very good, although next time I think I would probably opt for the gyros (chicken only) or the bifteki. The zucchini sticks were delicious and the portion insanely huge for the price, we couldn't finish it.

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            1. re: bytepusher

              Had been really curious about this spot and will definitely make a point of visiting. Unfortunately they are closed on Sundays.

              1. re: neighborguy

                Where else can you sit down and get a first rate made to order biftekia pita and a Heineken for less than $9??

                Also,(despite my previous post) closer to 4 blocks south of O"Connor - 1031 Pape

              2. re: bytepusher

                do you know where they're getting the pita bread from? while i really enjoyed the sandwich (and wasn't paying attention enough to not get "everything" in it which also includes fries that were kinda stale) the slight char and great flavour and texture of the pita is what really won me over.

                zucchini fries tasted mostly of flour and oil to me... so not a winner. next time salad and peppers.

              3. Website gives an awesome vibe. Can't wait to try it...thanks for posting, phoenikia.

                1. I went there today for a late lunch.
                  I ordered the chicken gyros, which was basically chicken shwarma.

                  the gyros came with tsatsiki, fries, tomatoes and onions.
                  there was a heaping amount of chicken.

                  it was nice and moist and quite tasty. didn't blow me out of my shoes, but it was very very good. probably one of the better shwarma i've had.

                  i'd venture to say that its probably one of the best restaurants north of Greektown - and i haven't even tried most things on their menu!!

                  pricewise: excellent for what you pay. a great deal.

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                  1. re: atomeyes

                    We were the first ones in today for lunch at 11 am. The chicken gyros plate was delicious, the biftekia was good quality beef with plenty of rough-chopped garlic and mint, the village salad looked and tasted just like the salads we had in Athens several months ago. The tzitziki tasted homemade and the folia sauce had a nice kick. I didn't care much for the fries. The place is clean and comfy but small. The owner is very pleasant. I tried suggesting to him to add the thin-cut pork paidakia marinaded in garlic and oregano that we loved in Athens. Those cook up so fast that the restaurant could turn out meals even when there's a crowd.

                    A great find! Thanks Chowhounds!

                  2. Checked this place out recently. I do agree that this is good, honest food at good prices. I liked the biftekia, could taste the fresh herbs. However the pork souvlaki made from pork belly was a little too fatty and chewy for me - and I like fatty meats (and other pork belly dishes I've had where the fat is a little more rendered), a lot of people don't. The zucchini sticks are something new to me and were certainly good, but they are after all zucchini - nice crispy light flour coating but somewhat soggy in the middle, the thinner ones were better IMO. I enjoyed but probably wouldn't order them again.
                    The chicken gyros looked awesome. I think this is a nice place but not something I'd go out of my way for, unless I was looking for a specific experience / dishes - which it seems lots of you are :)

                    1. Went there for round 2.
                      they were out of the chicken gyros and were kind enough to offer me a special on the chicken dinner. I thought that was nice, but instead I ordered the biftekia. its ground pork and beef. I thought it was good but the chicken is still my food of choice.
                      again, bargain-basement price for the food. you really cannot go wrong.

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                      1. re: atomeyes

                        Agreed. I also had the biftekia recently and thought it was good, but my favourite so far has been the pork or the chicken. The prices cannot be beat. Its a great local neighbourhood take out option.

                      2. OK, i definitely have to check out this place. Looks great.

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                        1. re: grandgourmand

                          Back again at lunch today. Had the Chicken Gyro Plate $6.75.
                          Enough for 2!

                        2. Thanks for the tip, I can sense a visit in my near future to this place.

                          Those grilled banana peppers look yummy!

                          1. If I go tomorrow at 5:30...will there be a lineup for a table? Planning on going with a couple friends. I suppose we could do takeout if it's too busy.

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                            1. re: grandgourmand

                              Not unless you tell everyone on Chowhound!!

                              1. re: grandgourmand

                                If this place was on the Danforth they'd be beating customers off with sticks by now, but where they are in Pape Village I doubt they'll ever get that happening. Shame because they are better than the usual suspects on the Danforth. Worst case if they are really busy by the time your food is ready a table will almost certainly come free,

                              2. Ok, dinner was a really nice experience. The food overall was great for something quick, tasty and cheap. On top of that, you can tell the owners really care about their business and customers. What a refreshing concept.

                                As for specific food items, my wife and I each had the chicken pita, which was very fresh and tasty. Flavour was a little mild, but that's really my only complaint.

                                My friend ordered the biftekia, and that's definitely a hit. He shared a bite and it tasted great, a good balance of grilled meat and herbs, while remaining nice and moist. I would definitely take it over the chicken.

                                We had a few village salads, which were fresh and lovely. I love those lebanese cucumbers. I'm not a huge feta fan, but this one was well balanced in terms of salt and tang, as well as creaminess (as far as feta goes).

                                Pita and tzaziki, simple and tasty. Zucchini fries, I found just ok. They were down to their last pepper, and the grilled pepper dish usually comes with two (I think). Anyhow, he offered the one on the house as a sampler. Simply delicious. I could eat those like the're going out of style.

                                Mythos, heineken, steam whistle, amstel light, $4 each. Not a bad beer list for a fast food joint.

                                I didn't have the pork souvlaki, which is made of belly, as others have indicated. I regret it already, but that's an excuse to go back.

                                This is a great neighbourhood spot (although not my neighbourhood). Very friendly service. Casual atmosphere with friends, where you can share dips, salads and sides. Enjoyed my beer as the evening sun was starting to set. It's Friday, so maybe I'm just in in a good mood generally, but I really like this place. in a perfect world, they'd have patio out back, where I could eat pork souvlaki and drink beer. In any case, I'm going back.

                                Oh, three couples, a few beers, plenty'o'food for $90+tip.

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                                1. re: grandgourmand

                                  I was there for takeout on Friday around 7:45pm. We ordered a biftekia on pita, chicken on pita, zucchini fries and village salad. I actually liked the chicken pita better than the biftekia, which was too salty and just seemed to be a flat and rather dry piece of meat. Maybe I'll have to try it again. The zucchini fries were very good, and the village salad is great, especially with the nice feta cheese and very good olive oil.

                                  We ate it with a "Dead Elephant" Ale from Railway City Brewing Company . As someone else mentioned, this place would be packed if it was on Danforth Ave. It's better than the place we usually go to (Louis Meats) and also much better than Messini. It's too bad we can't walk there like we can to the other spots.

                                  Here's a link to the beer, available at the LCBO : http://www.railwaycitybrewing.com/ind...

                                2. Finally made it and will be returning to Folia Grill.

                                  The menu sounds small but it's quite a bit of variety for only two really nice people to put out. Having a small selection of beers is not a bad thing either -- any one of them would be a good choice for going with the meals.

                                  I'm indifferent on the frozen fries and zuchini fries -- tho the zuchini make for a novel alternative side. But the freshness and flavour or the grilled meats and village salad are the standouts here.

                                  I hope they do well and are around for a long time.

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                                  1. re: neighborguy

                                    I still love this place!

                                    It has become my default Monday night resto.

                                    The chicken gyro appears to be their biggest hit, but I like everything.

                                    They use expensive Dodoni Feta which compares to average feta the way great cheddar compares to Kraft slices.

                                    1. re: sumdumgoy

                                      Ditto. And ditto.

                                      Was back for a second time the other night and managed to get the chicken gyro this time (last time they were out and I had to have bifteki.) Village salad still so good -- the way salads should be constructed with just good ingredients. Too bad about all that olive oil being left behind in the bowl. Next time will have pita just so we don't waste the oil.

                                      I saw on their take-out menu the sandwich with $10 purchase promo but I dont think I'll be taking them up on it -- the food is already well priced and we CHs want them to stay in business.

                                      1. re: neighborguy

                                        I also went back for the second time earlier this week. The food is still good. I hope they are doing OK as when I went to pick up my order around 6:45, the place was empty. Now if they moved near Messini, they'd be doing much more business.

                                        1. re: foodyDudey

                                          And probably paying several times as much rent - likely much more than they can afford.

                                          1. re: embee

                                            Folia will be closed for renovation from Friday, May 28 for 2-3 days. We went today and the sign was up. ;-( Can't remember exactly the day that renovation is scheduled to be finished - we were too hungry at the time.

                                            1. re: Aleta

                                              I wonder whether it is to install a/c?

                                              I went last week and thought the food was incredible for the price. My favourite was the chicken gyro, which was a delicious chicken shwarma. The zucchini fries and tzaziki were good, but I didn't like the pitas as they were fried. Personally, I was stuffed with the gyro wrap alone!

                                              They told me they were getting an a/c within the next couple of weeks.

                                              I told them to get some fruit juice as they only sell water, pop and beer to drink.

                                              1. re: blinknoodle

                                                Folia Grill is open again. I called first because I didn't want to drive all the way down there and find a closed door - again. Lots of banging noise in the background but definitely open. Will be going soon.

                                                Enjoy!

                                                1. re: Aleta

                                                  I was there to pick up dinner. They had some new ductwork installed at the front of the store. And they have a new cashier who I had never seen before. It was quite empty at 6:15 pm.

                                  2. Think we caught them on an off-day. Orderd biftekia, pork souvlaki pita, and the zucchini.

                                    The biftekia had no noticeable herbs. It was along the the lines of what foodeydudey described: salty and somewhat tasteless (except for salt).

                                    The pork souvlaki pita was decent flavour-wise (except again too salty), but the pork needed more tenderizing as it was unacceptably chewy even taking into account the cut.

                                    The zucchini would have been good, except it was too salty.

                                    This was all a take out order, so no opportunity to bring up the salt issue.

                                    The oversalting was to the point that we could not finish the biftekia.

                                    They are very nice people and the restaurant is comfortable and looks good. Prices are good too, but I guess (in our case at least - haven't read anyone else complaining of too much salt) the food consistency is subject to some degree of variability. Or maybe we didn't get the regular cook?

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                                    1. re: herbs go karts

                                      The regular cook is the (Greek) wife of the owner. I've never seen anyone else cooking food there but I see they did get a new cashier so maybe they are adding some staff. I only had a salt problem on the biftekia. I had a feeling that the size of the chicken gyro seemed smaller than last time, but I'm not sure about that.

                                    2. I never go for Greek food, we wanted to mix things up and try something different. The reviews on this board were positive, so tried it. Just to repete what everyone else has said, the place is great. Eager staff, clean space, large portions at cheap prices, and flavourful food which was perfectedly seasoned and didn't rely on garlic. Not realizing the portion sizes, we over ordered. I would recommend going with a group and sharing a bunch of things. The pita and tzatziki were stellar and it's nice to start with olives. Thanks to all the chowhounds for recommending this place.

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                                      1. re: dubchild

                                        I must confess, I missed this thread and found out about Folia Grill through a write up in the Star, and better late than never - what sold me is the fact that they use Pork Belly for the pork souvlaki... every other place I have gone to lately, the pork is dry and tough, where at Folia grill it was beautifully moist, a tiny bit chewy, and the flavour is out of this world.

                                        Hubby, who normally prefers chicken, took one bit of my sandwich and was won over even though he really enjoyed the Chicken AND the Bifteki.

                                        The zucchini fries are good, but those grilled peppers are GREAT!

                                        I look forward to trying more items on the menu in future visits and at those low prices we will be going back often!

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                                        Folia Grill
                                        1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

                                      2. I finally tried the biftekia, romaine & dill salad, and zucchini fries at Folia. Although I found the meal a little salty for my taste, everything was fresh & tasty. I'll ask if they can cut down on the salt next time I order, since it seemed like some of the salt was on the surface of the biftekia, and they might be salting them after they get cooked. I'm pretty sure there was parsley and some other seasoning in the biftekia.

                                        I dined at Folia with a Greek Canadian friend who used to live in Greece, and she proclaimed the biftekia the best she's eaten in years. She did not find them to be too salty, but I think her palate is accustomed to more salt than mine is. I mention this because I usually find food (esp. restaurant food) in Greece to be oversalted. It's quite possible that Folia is salting and seasoning the food for the palates of people who are used to eating biftekia in Greece.

                                        I'll try the chicken gyro on my next visit, and next time I order the salad or biftekia, I'm going to ask if they can cut down on the salt.

                                        The A/C is installed and working.

                                        This past week, they were offering 2 pork chops for $17, in case any CHs are craving pork chops. I would think the special will be running for a while, but you might want to call to check first.

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                                        1. re: phoenikia

                                          Agree...this place is excellent at its price point, and the owners seem to love what they do. The pork belly makes for a superior souvlaki. Wish I could've had that great-looking gyro - they were sold out when I went. The aforementioned porkchops look to be hefty and of good quality. They get in good pitas, and step it up with the butter and charring.

                                          1. re: Chester Eleganté

                                            I didn't know about the pork belly in their souvlaki. Will have to try it...tho every time I'm in there I'm just drawn uncontrollably to the chicken gyro -- maybe because on the very first visit they'd run out for the day.

                                            I agree with others regarding the saltiness and (over) seasoning. The next time we're there I'll mention it as well.

                                          2. re: phoenikia

                                            that special has been on the board for the past month that i've been dropping in, so it could be one of those permanent "specials".

                                          3. Just had to bump this thread, had takeout from Folia last night and man was it ever good. Totally my favourite Greek quick-service spot in the city. Place was nice and full so I guess word has spread, and I'm happy for them, they deserve it.

                                            1. That's it. I'm going there for dinner today.

                                              1. So, got the chicken gyros plate.

                                                The chicken was moist and tender, but only flavoured by the chicken fat and some kind of red spice granules (seasoned salt?) sprinkled on it. Maybe I caught them on an off day, but there was so much more they could do with the meat to make it stand alone as a taste sensation, maybe some lemon juice, maybe some oregano. I found the fat a bit too much, but then, I don't like lamb usually either for the same reason. Some citrus would have helped balance out that mouth feel for me.

                                                Of course, it's really difficult to get flavourful chicken in these factory farm days.

                                                However, the zucchini fries were excellent, the tzatziki was excellent, the chopped red onion and tomato were super fresh, and the owners were super friendly. I will return, but I will be trying something else on the menu.

                                                1. I tried this place last week for lunch and loved it.

                                                  The chicken gyro was very tender and tasty.

                                                  The pork belly souvlaki was dynamite. Very tender and very porky.

                                                  Can't wait to try the biftekia.

                                                  DT

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                                                  1. re: Davwud

                                                    We went in for lunch last week and the food as usual was good and great value. I will say they need to give the whole place a good scrubbing, it was a little grimier than on past visits, still cleaner than many places but no longer as sparkling as it was. Now is the time to jump on it before it gets out of hand.

                                                    1. re: Davwud

                                                      I would recommend getting the biftekia stand-alone so you can get the full flavour. YOu can order in 3, 6 or 12. Some have mentioned being served drier ones, I haven't had that problem yet.

                                                      Ordering the tzaziki with grilled pita is recommended too. And yes, the pork belly souvlaki is delicious. Just enough chew to make it a good texture (i.e. not tough). And very succulent.

                                                      This time of year, the village salad is suffering from sub-prime tomatoes, but still good.

                                                      I really enjoy this place. $4 for premium beers doesn't hurt either.

                                                      1. re: grandgourmand

                                                        I forgot to point out on my post above that, while the tzatziki was good, there was a little too much on my pitas. The chicken was somewhat drowned out and the pork was only slightly drowned out. I'd order the tzatziki on the side in the future I think.

                                                        I didn't find the place in the least bit dirty.

                                                        DT

                                                        1. re: Davwud

                                                          Who said anything about the place being dirty?

                                                          I really like the place. Young couple owning a nice little neighbourhood joint. They really care about the food. I'm always willing to spend my money in a place like this.

                                                          1. re: grandgourmand

                                                            Bytepusher said it needed a scrub. I can't comment b/c I have yet to go. I must soon!!!

                                                            1. re: grandgourmand

                                                              <i>Who said anything about the place being dirty?</i>

                                                              That would have been me, to be clear I'm not suggesting it's filthy or anything, just that by comparison to past visits it was less than perfectly sparkling, scuff marks on the baseboards, visible dried shoeprints on the floor, no paper towels in the bathroom and the bathroom otherwise felt unattended. Probably just caught them on an off day.

                                                              1. re: bytepusher

                                                                Even though the pork is a bit chewy, it is moist and tasty being pork belly so I just love it... I love this place... must plan a visit again soon!

                                                      2. I hope people haven't forgotten about this place. We had another great dinner. Ditto on all the usual things which get mentioned, great food, people who care, super cheap etc... My only suprise is that it wasn't busier. If you haven't gone, go get some pork skewers, sweet peppers, pita with tzaziki, and a village salad. Look at the prices on their website, it may surprise you.

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                                                        1. re: dubchild

                                                          I couldn't agree more. The place is fantastic.
                                                          I absolutely love the pork belly souvlaki.

                                                          DT

                                                          1. re: dubchild

                                                            I've said it before, the location works against them, if they were on the Danforth they would be beating customers off with sticks. They would also be paying many multiples more in rent.

                                                            1. re: bytepusher

                                                              Folia is in the right neighbourhood for a small operation that's starting mostly from scratch each day. That stretch of Pape needs a good option for good-tasting, faster Greek food, and the Danforth is already over-saturated with Greek restaurants.

                                                              Quality would fall if Folia moved, and became a hit on the Danforth. Messini was much tastier when it first opened, before the crowds flocked.

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                                                              Messini
                                                              445 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4K1P1, CA

                                                              1. re: bytepusher

                                                                no, if they were on the Danforth, their rent would be 4x what it currently is, which means their volume would have to increase greatly, which means your quality would likely decrease and the prices would increase.
                                                                trust me, they are probably doing fine financially by having a resto on pape. remember: the north side of O'Connor has a lot of upper-middle class families with money. they want good eating options near them. and Folia's the only one.

                                                                also, if they were on the Danforth, you would still have the same do-do heads flocking to Astoria or Mr Greek or any place with a patio. foodies don't usually eat on the Danforth.

                                                                1. re: atomeyes

                                                                  "foodies don't usually eat on the Danforth?"

                                                                  I don't label myself a foodie, but for what it's worth, I've been posting on the Toronto board since its creation in 2003.

                                                                  I eat on the Danforth frequently. I keep my expectations in check, and order carefully. If you know what to order, and where to order it, there's plenty of tasty food to be found on the Danforth.

                                                                  1. re: phoenikia

                                                                    I didn't even fall into that trap and respond. There are definitely good options on Danforth, and it does not end east of Carlaw. The true foodies can find the worthwhile places, no matter where they are.

                                                                2. re: bytepusher

                                                                  I wonder how much more it costs to operate on Danforth Ave. When I went to pick up dinner at 6:10 yesterday, the place was completely empty and no orders were being prepared. Eleni was sitting at a table checking her phone. Somehow it just seemed too slow for that time of evening.

                                                                  1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                    Tuesday isn't a busy night for most restaurants, and many Greek/European families (which I would guess make up a significant part of Folia's clientele, given the neighbourhood) eat later.

                                                                    foodyDudey, I'm curious as to why you would post this. Should I post when I see empty restaurants or a lull in business? Unless the restaurant has a tendency to have line-ups like Guu or Libretto, most people are going to stay away when they read that a restaurant has not been busy.

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                                                                    Guu
                                                                    398 Church Street, Toronto, ON M5B 2A2, CA

                                                                    1. re: phoenikia

                                                                      I only posted for one reason, in the hopes that more people go. I can't see at all how reading that would deter people from trying it out, as I've never seen a bad review of the place. And, it was also in response to the posts about them getting more business if they were on Danforth, but having to pay much more rent. And that is not the first time I've seen it rather empty. I go there on various days and usually between 6:45 and 7:15. Yesterday was about the earliest. I just think they would do better in a different location.

                                                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                        Oh, ok, foodyDudey.

                                                                        Thanks for responding to my question ;-)

                                                                        If I read or hear that a restaurant I'm not familiar with has not been busy, regardless of whether it's been recommended or not, I start to wonder about turnover.

                                                                        1. re: phoenikia

                                                                          As I said, there is pretty much nothing negative you can read about Folia. My wife and I like it, and obviously it's well liked here. If someone reads the posts here and on other boards, they will only find positive comments on the food. I just cant help wonder how business would be and what it costs to be on Danforth compared to where they are.

                                                                          1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                            The rents on the Danforth (specifically the cute, busy part of the Danforth between Carlaw and the Big Carrot) are surprisingly high, from what I've heard.

                                                                    2. re: foodyDudey

                                                                      there was a short period where i was dropping in around 5:30/6pm during the weekdays and they were busy enough that they'd double up on my meat as an apology for me waiting 5 min extra for eat-in... completely unexpected and totally unnecessary but absolutely appreciated. i'm sure it just goes in phases of very busy to not as much. they can put out orders darn fast.

                                                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                        If only it were like that. You must have tucked in there during a rare pocket in her day. I've been there several times and with the exception of the first visit, we've always had to wait for a seat to become available. This would definitely be a case of waiting being a good thing and worth it.

                                                                    3. re: dubchild

                                                                      Yeah this place rocks-was there tonight. Friggin tasty stuff!

                                                                    4. I was there tonight. I arrived while they were in the middle of a huge catering order so no bifteki which was a disappointment. I got a pork souvlaki in a pita, a chicken gyros meal and a village salad for me and Mrs. Hal. It was very good and the portions were enormous. Mrs Hal asked again if this was a recommendation from Chow and remarked that we haven't been let down yet. "Better than the average Greek Food" including lots of the places on Danforth.

                                                                      Chicken gyros was nicely spiced and moist but not too greasy. A huge portion with tomatoes and onions and fries for $7. The fries were slightly oversalted.
                                                                      Pork souvlaki was on a nice soft but chewy greek pita with a few fries, good solid tzatziki and tomatoes and red onions. A bargain at $4.
                                                                      Village salad was a great combination of tomatoes, cucumbers onions and olives with a big piece of nice feta and some excellent olive oil on the side.

                                                                      A well-decorated room with some interesting touches like the sticks under the lights. Service was friendly and efficient.

                                                                      I'm going back for the bifteki soon.

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                                                                      1. re: hal2010

                                                                        I too picked up some food from Folia while they were in the middle of that large catering order. Foodie or no foodie, I can't say that I had ever ventured past Mortiner on Pape but I was delighted to be tipped off about Folia. We had multiple orders of the bifteki, gyros, romaine and dill salad, grilled peppers, pork souvlaki sticks, tzatziki, zucchini fries and pita. First off, the price - 6 of us ate like champions with a nice leftover lunch for 2 the next day for a total bill of $100 (pre-tip). Wow! Overall, everything was really fresh and flavourful. The zucchini fries, a few of which I sampled right out of the fryer and several more on the drive home - were outstanding. Same with the grilled peppers - gorgeously charred banana peppers - who knew something so simple could be so well executed? Tzatziki was thick yoghurt, well seasoned. For me, the bifteki were just okay but I think I'm just not crazy for that kind of dish, though the accompanying red onions and tomatoes were great. And for those that flagged it above, the restaurant was spotless.

                                                                        Great food, tremendous value, nice people - I'll return in a heartbeat. Definitely one of those "never would have found this place but for CH" experiences so many thanks.

                                                                        1. re: peppermint pate

                                                                          i went for a walk on the Spit on saturday. 3 hrs' of walking left me starving.
                                                                          i went to Folia. Ordered one chicken gyros and quickly said "gimme another!"

                                                                          damn tasty!

                                                                          re: their bifteka - i tried it once and, personally, its not as good as the chicken.

                                                                          1. re: atomeyes

                                                                            I've been to Folia Grill a couple times and the food is fantastic for a Greek, fast-food joint! The zucchini fries are tasty-tasty and you get a very generour portion for the price, souvlaki is moist and really well flavoured.

                                                                            IMO this place blows Messini, or any other Danforth gyro joint, out of the water.

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                                                                            Messini
                                                                            445 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4K1P1, CA

                                                                            Folia Grill
                                                                            1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

                                                                      2. Resurrecting an old thread...

                                                                        So Mr. Vuitton and I stopped in last night for the first time. We each got a pork souvlaki to go.

                                                                        Very tasty and we would definitely go again. The meat was very tender with no gristly, fatty bits of special note. The pita was fresh. Portioning was good and it was not oversalted (which I find with a lot of souvlaki joints on the Danforth). The tzatziki gould have been a bit more garlicky, which is the only real negative thing I have to say. The fries on the sandwich were a great Greek-style touch.

                                                                        We would definitely go back (we got it to go)

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                                                                        1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                                          Well you are lucky you went yesterday as they were clsoed fror the previous week and only re-opened yesterday!

                                                                        2. I live right around the corner and it did strike me as odd since the decor was much nicer compared to other places around the area. There are some smaller places near the area that also serves souvlaki but my default has been King's Park near Pape and Mortimer. In the summer they will spit roast an entire pig or lamb on certain days and the aroma is magic! It is not surprising to say that better greek food can be found off of the danforth. My favorite place for gyros is at Square Boy near Donlands. Same quality and massive quantity!

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                                                                          1. re: geekwithspatula

                                                                            except that King's Park's been closed for the past 3 months, has been gutted and, i assume, is a new resto waiting to be opened :)

                                                                            1. re: atomeyes

                                                                              I'm hoping they are renovating but the realist in me is saying it's time to let it go. There is always Florida just 1 block up if I still want the whole pig. Still have memories of going to King's after class for muchies.

                                                                              A friend went to the Filo restaurant at the corner of pape and o'connor and said they make a great lamb chop.

                                                                          2. I'd never heard of this place until I read this thread, so thank you! Even more embarrassing, I've lived in the east end for 20 years and had never ventured to Pape Village before. It's much more impressive than Old East York Village on Coxwell, IMHO. And Folia Grill was the best part.

                                                                            The chicken gyro pita was unbelievably good. Not that I would have had room, but as soon as I finished it, I wanted another. Just a perfect combination of flavors. And for 5 bucks and change, an insanely good deal. I can't wait to go back. This place is brilliant, easily miles ahead of a number of Greek places on Danforth that charge much more for vastly inferior food.

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                                                                            Folia Grill
                                                                            1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

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                                                                            1. re: echoinghills

                                                                              FYI, owners have the restaurant up for sale. not sure what that means, but i'd go and grab a gyros sooner vs later

                                                                              1. re: atomeyes

                                                                                They also raised some of the prices about 5 or 6 months ago, did anyone else notice that? We stopped going at that point, and I bet some others in that area did also.

                                                                                1. re: atomeyes

                                                                                  Ooh, this doesn't appear to be good.

                                                                                  1. re: magic

                                                                                    Every time I see it pop up on "My Chow" I worry that it's gonna be bad news.

                                                                                    DT

                                                                                      1. re: magic

                                                                                        It's been about a year since I went and the handful of times I had it was fantastic. I'm not saying it's gone down hill. I'm not saying that new ownership will ruin it. It's just that as is, it's great. New prices not withstanding. They used to be a really good bargain too.

                                                                                        DT

                                                                                        1. re: Davwud

                                                                                          I did not realize the prices had increased. Oh well, not surprising given the cost of food. As long as it remains excellent.

                                                                                          Will keep my fingers crossed here. And will visit very soon.

                                                                                        2. re: magic

                                                                                          I used to go at various times between 6 and 7:30 and there would usually be nobody else inside, or maybe one person there for takeout.

                                                                                          1. re: magic

                                                                                            Don't necessarily read into the sale.
                                                                                            not sure if the recipes are part of the sale or if the sale's strictly to take on the lease and the space, as-is.

                                                                                            the one positive? i think it would make a hell of a nice location for a Buster Rhinos

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                                                                                            Buster Rhino's
                                                                                            2001 Thickson Rd S, Whitby, ON L1N, CA

                                                                                      2. re: atomeyes

                                                                                        What a shame. After my first trip there, I had to take my wife the other day. We both had the chicken gyro pita and split an order of zucchini fries, which were excellent even though they took a long time to cool down to an edible temperature.

                                                                                        1. re: atomeyes

                                                                                          There's an awful big distance between putting a place up for sale and it being actually sold.

                                                                                          Last few times I've been in there's barely a sign of the owners (the man was there very briefly once)

                                                                                          Frankly in that hood, despite the value prices (they went from unbelievably cheap to merely cheap luch for two was still less than 20 bucks, try that on the Danforth) the menu was too restrictive. As much as it pains me to say this I don't think anyone could sustain themselves in that hood selling only Greek street food given that there are at least two other places doing similar stuff at lower quality within two blocks. They need to do a burger and some other stuff

                                                                                          1. re: bytepusher

                                                                                            There is a place a minute's walk south selling burgers... It's called "Extreme Burger" but I am not sure how extreme it is.

                                                                                            1. re: bytepusher

                                                                                              They have Bifteki on the menu, which is a burger-esque item. I don't think a north american style burger would make any sense in a greek grill.

                                                                                              Another thing that doesn't make sense is that horrid thousand island dipping sauce they serve with the zucchini fries. Why not just serve it with their excellent tzatziki alongside? That combination makes a lot more sense to me.

                                                                                              And don't even get me started on putting the fries in the sandwich - can't really complain about that too much though as it may be a regional thing. Just because I never came across it in any Athenian souvlaki house doesn't mean they don't serve it that way elsewhere in Greece, but I've only ever seen it done in Toronto.

                                                                                              1. re: dxs

                                                                                                I don't care for fries in sandwiches either. I never allow that.

                                                                                                1. re: magic

                                                                                                  It's pretty common to have fries wrapped up with the meat in the pita throughout Greece, in both larger cities and smaller towns. That's a sign for most GRKs in TO that Folia and Messini are serving something closer to the real deal, and helps bring in the Greek Canadian customers they might not otherwise attract.

                                                                                                  But if you don't like it, that's fine, too.

                                                                                                  The Chowhound oracles that are posting in this thread are friggin' pessimistic.

                                                                                                  Considering how much food costs have gone up for everybody over the last year, I'm not surprised that Folia and other restaurants have had to raise their prices. If I'm paying $3.29 for a litre of skim milk and often $4 for a loaf of bread, I don't mind if the little guy on Pape raises the price of his souvlaki to $6 (or whatever price he's charging). When I think about how many Torontonian Chowhounds are willing to spend $24 on a plate of mediocre pasta in Yorkville, or $15 on a fancy hamburger elsewhere in the city, it makes me wonder how a Chowhound can kvetch about a mostly take-out joint raising their prices by x%, when the higher price is still a fraction of what mediocrity is selling for a couple kilometres further west.

                                                                                                  I hope Folia is doing fine, and if they are for sale, I hope they find a good buyer who wants to continue to sell a high quality product at reasonable prices.

                                                                                                  There are already plenty of good places for burgers in East York. Most people I know that live in that neighbourhood will head to Detroit Eatery, Square Boy or Rails & Ales when they want a good EY burger (as opposed to a yuppified Allen's or Globe Bistro burger). Folia is where people go for souvlaki and bifteki.

                                                                                                  I don't think it makes sense for Folia to try and compete with them. They should focus on what they do well- which is what they've been doing.

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                                                                                                  Messini
                                                                                                  445 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4K1P1, CA

                                                                                                    1. re: prima

                                                                                                      I love this place, and am sad to know that it's up for sale. I did not notice the price increase, and still think it's damn tasty and great value. They are 10X better than any of the usual suspects on the Danforth. I've tried them all and they don't compare.

                                                                                                      And yeah, fries in a sandwich are pretty standard for Greek fare. I fondly recall a small gyro joint owned by a Greek family during my university days in Guelph. They always served the pita sandwiches with fries. Don't like that? It's as simple as asking to leave them out!

                                                                                              2. re: atomeyes

                                                                                                ohgodnooo.... I haven't been yet...!

                                                                                                1. re: atomeyes

                                                                                                  Who told you this? I did some due diligence and heard it has never been up for sale, and that they are doing well. Either my connections are wrong or yours are, which is it?

                                                                                                  1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                                    I went to Folia Grill with a friend last night, had the grilled chicken breast, which was wonderfully moist with the perfect amount of grill marks and a light drizzle of a lovely lemon sauce. The zucchini fries were great as always! Village salad is exactly what I want in a Greek salad, tangy salty feta, crunchy cucumbers, tomato chunks, sharp red onions, oregano and a bit of vinaigrette - not drowned in dressing. Pita bread was warm and tasty. Great meal and leftovers for lunch today!

                                                                                                    I asked the fellow behind the counter if the rumours about the place being sold were true... he said it has already been sold but the new owners plan to keep it as a Greek restaurant, but he didn't know if they would keep the exact same menu.

                                                                                                    I told him I hope they just add to it and not take any of my favourites away! Have yet to find another place that offers pork belly for souvlaki and those killer zucchini fries!

                                                                                                    If you like the place - go, so the new owners know there are people who love the food as it is. If you haven't gone yet - GO NOW, in case they do change the menu. But I sure hope they don't, it is one of my go to places for both dine in and take out.

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                                                                                                    Folia Grill
                                                                                                    1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

                                                                                                    1. re: LovelyAsia

                                                                                                      That is interesting news about it being sold. The person I talked to said he knew the Folia Grill owners well, and had asked them about it and they said no it was not for sale. Oh well, I guess you can't beleive everything you hear.

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                                                                                                      Folia Grill
                                                                                                      1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

                                                                                                      1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                                        I was told the owners both had a new baby and are moving to Collingwood. So they sold.

                                                                                                        I also hope Steve sticks around.

                                                                                                        DT

                                                                                                        1. re: Davwud

                                                                                                          The web site has been updated and all references to George and Eleni removed and replaced with the name of the new owner.

                                                                                                          No change to the menu yet.

                                                                                                          Need cheap and cheerful close by dinner tonight so we'll see if it's holding up.

                                                                                                      2. re: LovelyAsia

                                                                                                        I'm not sure if Megas uses pork belly for souvlaki all the time, but I know Megas sometimes uses pork belly for their souvlaki. My friend raved about the pork belly souvlaki she had at Megas during the summer, that was served as part of a casual wedding dinner for someone's 2nd wedding. Not sure if the same kind of pork belly souvlaki is served on their regular menu at Megas, but the last pork souvlaki stick I ordered at Megas was better than most being served on the Danforth.

                                                                                                        1. re: prima

                                                                                                          Megas was really quite decent in the late 90's, but a dinner we had there about 5 years ago (with about 10 people) was really bad. We haven't been back since. But I have glanced at people's dinner's as we walked by and this year quite a few of those dinners looked very good. I guess it's time to visit them again.

                                                                                                          1. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                                            The last couple visits I've had to Megas have been better than visits 3-4-5-7 years ago, so I've gotten the impression they've pulled up their socks lately. I'm only going so far as to recommend the pork souvlaki in this post. I was happy with my maroulosalata (I don't order tomatoes when they're out of season) and avgolemono soup (good for a family restaurant version, doesn't compare to home-made) on my last visit, and happy with most of the items on the pikilia the visit before that. I wouldn't choose to eat calamari or octopus at Megas- I'd recommend sticking to the meats and dips.

                                                                                                            I'm not saying this is the best place on the Danforth, and I'm mostly recommending this to people who like to order souvlaki and Greek food on the Danforth. I'm not recommending this place for haters to try it out and then complain that it didn't taste as good as what they remember souvlaki tasting like when they visited Mykonos, Athens or the Pink Palace.

                                                                                                          2. re: prima

                                                                                                            Just a quick clarification. Turns out the pork souvlaki at Megas that my friend was raving about was pork tenderloin, not pork belly, so if you're looking for pork belly souvlaki, Megas isn't going to work.

                                                                                                        2. re: foodyDudey

                                                                                                          any idiot can use MLS's website.

                                                                                                          try it one day. (not being an idiot, but using MLS. you'll be shocked to see what businesses are for sale)

                                                                                                    2. Last week, we went to give Folia a try under the new owner. It looks like he's trying to stay faithful to the original concept: good quality ingredients, prepared simply. We ordered the pork chop w. fries, biftekia, village salad, and the grilled peppers. Everything tasted just as good as before, and so far, no price increase.

                                                                                                      However, I'm not 100% sure that the new owner is a confident restaurateur. It took 50 minutes to get our order from the time we called it in to the time he handed it over to us! Steve had called in sick (so it looks like he's still there). The owner was very gracious, though, and gave us a few freebies. We will definitely go back, and hope that these kinks get ironed out.

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                                                                                                      1. re: lolatengo

                                                                                                        We were there a couple months back and Steve was still there. He was behind the counter

                                                                                                        DT

                                                                                                      2. The owner told me they will be offering pork gyros, as well as the chicken, starting this coming week. Another reason to go back soon!

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                                                                                                        1. Not to bump a slightly old thread, but what's the difference between the chicken gyro plate and the chicken gyro; the plate is about $3 more and has the same things as the gyro wrap (except for the wrap I assume) so is there more meat to compensate or something else?

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                                                                                                          1. re: Shimso

                                                                                                            There is no pita, more meat and more fries IIRC. I like to split the plate with a friend with pita and zucchini fries extra.