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Coffee & dessert Saturday night after R&G Lounge

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cvhound Mar 9, 2010 11:58 AM

Hubby and I are meeting a couple for an early dinner at R&G Lounge on Saturday night. Can anyone offer any suggestions for where we can go for coffee and dessert afterwards? We'll be on foot and taking Bart home to East Bay.

Would Palace Hotel be a good choice? The only other place that came to mind is the bar at the Hyatt. The pro is that it's right next to the Bart station, the negative is that it's like any generic hotel bar. If we were closer to Union Square, I'd head to Grand Cafe in Hotel Monaco.

The couple we're going with Saturday night live in Martinez, rarely venture out to S/F and don't go out to eat very often. So I'd like to find some place that feels a little "special," without being too terribly expensive (i.e., prices comparable to Grand Cafe).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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  1. Melanie Wong RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 02:26 PM

    Palio d'Asti is just down the street, and would be on your way to the Montgomery St BART station. I've not had dinner there so others will need to comment. Here's the dessert menu.
    http://www.paliodasti.com/menu.php?me...

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      cvhound RE: Melanie Wong Mar 9, 2010 03:05 PM

      Melanie, thanks so much for suggesting Palio d'Asti. However, I fear that we wouldn't be welcome there for dessert since we'd be there during their peak dinner hour. We're meeting for an early dinner between 5 and 6pm on Saturday, which means dessert would probably be around 7 or 7:30pm.

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        Melanie Wong RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 03:25 PM

        That is thoughtful of you. However, Financial District restaurants tend to be ghost towns on the weekend. I noticed that Palio is giving away a complimentary appetizer on saturday nights, so that speaks to lack of business. You might want to call and see what they say about dessert course only. It's a huge place.

        Otherwise, as jlfoodie suggested, North Beach caffes are the traditional spot for dessert after dinner in Chinatown.

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          cvhound RE: Melanie Wong Mar 9, 2010 03:43 PM

          Melanie, you make a very good point about FiDi restaurants needing business on weekends. I'll give them a call and test the waters with the person who answers the phone.

          A cute cafe in North Beach such as the one jlfoodie suggested would be my choice, but not sure the other couple would be up for the trek to NB then taking Bart home. This is a couple that ventures into SF maybe once or twice a year, if that, and rarely if ever ride Bart.

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            bbulkow RE: cvhound Mar 10, 2010 08:47 AM

            Don't forget to mention that you'll be drinking heavily.

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      jlfoodie RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 02:32 PM

      I'd recommend Stella's Pastry in North Beach - great Italian desserts.
      http://www.stellapastry.com/

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        cvhound RE: jlfoodie Mar 9, 2010 03:07 PM

        Thanks for the suggestion, jlfoodie. I'll keep Stella's in mind for the future. I don't if the other couple would be up for that much walking and trying to catch a cab on a Saturday night may be too much of a hassle.

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        buster99 RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 03:15 PM

        Belden Lane would also be on your way to the Montgomery BART station. Or Wexler's on Sacramento just below Montgomery. Or how about Bocadillo's, one block down on Montgomery, but you would have to backtrack a block towards Clay.

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          cvhound RE: buster99 Mar 9, 2010 03:17 PM

          We're very familiar with Belden Lane, as we're fans of Plouf. My concern about going to a regular restaurant without a separate bar area is taking up a table for a relatively small tab (dessert & coffee) during peak dinner time when servers would obviously prefer to serve a table ordering a full dinner.

          Am I just being too paranoid/sensitive about this issue?

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            buster99 RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 03:21 PM

            Does Elephant and Castle work, don't know about dessert and coffee, more of a bar.

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              cvhound RE: buster99 Mar 9, 2010 03:46 PM

              You know, something like Elephant and Castle would definitely work if I could find one that served decent dessert and coffee! I don't think anyone will be up for drinking bears after a big dinner at R&G, but atmosphere-wise, a bar would go over really well with the two men who both work in law enforcement and are Irish Catholic! ;-)

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                buster99 RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 04:18 PM

                Cafe Claude? they have a small bar area don't they? I would still bet that one of the Belden places could accomodate you. Maybe call and tell them you only want dessert and coffee and could that work?

        2. myst RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 03:40 PM

          North Beach is in easy walking distance, no need to take a cab, lots of place have gelato and coffee/pastries. OSHA the thai place in the embarcadero, right next to Hyatt Embarcadero has several desserts and a hip bar atmosphere. I love the fried banana, but they also have mango based desserts and ice creams. I don't think they will care if you have a small tab, especially in the bar area.

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            cvhound RE: myst Mar 9, 2010 06:11 PM

            Thanks buster99 and myst for all the great suggestions! I've now got lots of great suggestions to keep in my back pocket for Saturday night! Thanks again to everyone for posting such helpful replies.

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              cakebaker RE: cvhound Mar 9, 2010 08:00 PM

              If you can grab a cab or decide you feel up to the walk...I'd second Stella Pastry. Their Sacrapantina is such a classic and would be a great choice after R&G...in particular for someone who doesn't venture into the City often.

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                Melanie Wong RE: cakebaker Mar 9, 2010 08:17 PM

                In case the Sacrapantina is new to cvhound, here are photos of the cake, as served at my uncle's birthday banquet at R&G Lounge. Stella's special cake appears at many of our family gatherings.
                http://www.flickr.com/photos/melaniew...
                http://www.flickr.com/photos/melaniew...

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                  cakebaker RE: Melanie Wong Mar 9, 2010 10:58 PM

                  Great to see the pictures...and thanks for confirming that it would follow R&G well. It really is a part of North Beach to me and such a special cake...but it was nice you had the pictures as many people may not be aware of Sacrapantina's history and how special it is.

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                    Melanie Wong RE: cakebaker Mar 9, 2010 11:07 PM

                    And here are more recent mentions of the Sacripantina, much beloved by 'hounds.
                    http://search.chow.com/search?query=s...

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                      cvhound RE: Melanie Wong Mar 14, 2010 10:19 AM

                      We had a terrific dinner at R&G Lounge last night. Since all four of us are huge crab fans, we ordered two orders of S&P crab and one order each of the three treasures and HK style pan fried noodles with shrimp & bok choy. The couple with us couldn't stop raving about the crab and our table polished off almost all the food except for a few of the smaller crab pieces. Our male dining companion appreciated the fact that he was able to order manhattens to enjoy with his food while at a Chinese restaurant.

                      Afterwards, we walked to Stella's Pastry in North Beach to try their much touted sacripantina. I can't believe hubby and I have never done the walk from R&G to NB. It was a super easy, flat walk with lots to see along the way in terms of people watching and interesting little shops. Especially with the St. Patricks day crowd yesterday.

                      Since we arrived at Stella's while most people were eating dinner, we had the place to ourselves. We found it too warm inside the shop, so we grabbed a table outside to enjoy our lattes and dessert. Our coffees were good and I'm glad we tried the sacripantina, but we found the cake way too sweet for our taste. The four of us barely polished off half a single slice.

                      After all the eating we did yesterday (brunch at Farmer Brown, dinner at R&G, dessert at Stella's), hubby and I welcomed the easy, leisurely flat walk from Stella's back to the Embarcadero Bart station. I think hubby and I will spend more time exploring NB now that we know how easy it is to get there by foot!

          2. Robert Lauriston RE: cvhound Mar 14, 2010 11:11 AM

            Maybe Barbacco or Perbacco? I think they're quietish on Saturdays.

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              cvhound RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 14, 2010 12:18 PM

              Thanks, Robert, but our dinner was last night and the four of us ended up at Stella's Pastry after our dinner at R&G Lounge. Our dining companions decided to drive into town, so after dropping them at Portsmouth garage, hubby and I walked by Barbacco on our way to the Embarcadaro Bart station. At 9pm, they were totally packed and there were people waiting to be seated. Since we'd been in the city since 9:30am, we were ready to head home and didn't stop for a night cap. However, we're definitely planning to check out Barbacco in the near future.

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