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Upscale and takeout healthy and light for dinner?

We have selected our more indulgent meals for our trip in June, but I wonder where to go at night after we may have had lunch at Le Cinq, for example.

Hearty casual French fare isn't really our thing day after day, so I need to find some really light options to throw in when our stomachs need a break. Both take out and sit down, but emphasis on quality vegetables, seafood, and where we can order small amounts, etc. Where do fashionistas with eating disorders eat? (Even though I am neither!)

Are there any restaurants that come to mind?

I am interested in trying Liza one night, as I love Lebanese food.

What are the favorite takeout or really causal places for the health conscious? Dalloyau seemed like a good match, too.

Thanks for your help!

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  1. If you can hold on for 8 days, I intend to put together and post just such a list at another hound's request.
    But I'd love to see others' thoughts.

    John Talbott
    http://johntalbottsparis.typepad.com/...

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    1. re: John Talbott

      A week late and several dollars short here it is (incorporating some suggestions from here):

      Soups, salads and sandwiches from places like Cojean (several locations)
      Soups from soup shops like the Bar a Soupes
      Pizza (Bought from places like my nearby Zorglubino or heated from Picard)
      Falafel from places like L'As du Falafel
      Crepes from places like the Breizh Café
      Charcuterie and cheese from wine bars like La Cremerie
      Appetizers and wine from places like l’Avant Comptoir
      Caves with food like La Cave Beauvau
      French (or at least Basque) tapas at places like Afaria
      Souffles at places like Cigale Recamier
      Carpaccios, vegetables and tartars from places like Les Fines Gueules
      Oysters from places like Le Nord-Sud on my street or sit down at l’Ecaille de la Fontaine
      All sorts of seafood from brasseries such as Brasserie Lorraine
      Sushi at places like Enichi
      Corsican stuff from places like La Casaluna
      Tomatoes and salads from Rouge
      Pasta at places like Les Pates Vivantes
      French fries once the Belgian guy near Parmentier opens up again
      Tea and cakes at salons like Mariage Freres
      Pastry from Laduree
      Half-portions from Petits Plats
      Salads, lentil salad, sausage and piquillos at places like Zinc Caius
      Salads en plein air at Saut de Loup or Tokyo Eat
      Rotisseried fowl at Maitre Mathieu
      Mechoui from Wally the Saharian
      Lebanese mezes and desserts from Noura
      Greek mezes and desserts from Mavromatis
      All sorts of finger food from the food halls at Galeries Lafayette and Bon Marche

        1. re: John Talbott

          Nice list! Sorry hbfoodie to drag us back to rotisserie talk but JT could you tell us the business hours of Maitre Mathieu? I walked by earlier in the week and your chicken dude was not around.

          1. re: schtroumpfette

            Hummm. Never on Sundays (afternoon) or Mondays or early Tuesday but most days 10-1 or 2 and 5-7:30 PM. Pretty much same hours and days as the market(s).

            I don't think he's that great, eg worth crossing more than 3 streets for; indeed my downstair's neighbor much prefers the chicken from Caulincourt/Custine.

      1. In my experience, takeout is not so much in the French moeurs.
        There are many traiteurs. They all look good. Very few are really good. Ditto the rotisserie chicken stands. The whole genre seems to lend itself to style-over-content.
        The French think one should sit and enjoy a leiisurely meal, and not run&eat. Likewise there is no takeout coffee in a styrofoam cup either. -- On this I agree with my adoptive country.

        For ok takeout, every market has tons of traiteurs and rotisserie places.

        In my neighborhood - the 9th near rue des Martyrs, I recommend
        - Papilles gourmandes on 26 rue des Martyrs
        - the couscous takeout at Wally on 36 rue Rodier.I also recommend markets that enjoy high quality standards, such as Maubert and Richard Lenoir. In those markets you also have more of a chance to get good takeout food. The best tip is to queue up at the longest queues. -- Sorriest, a bit primitive as tip, like buy-low-sell-high.

        P.S. Whatamithinking? The best takeout venue in Paris is happening right now: the Salon de l'Agriculture. My hubby poo always stocks up all kinds of goodies, including farm-fresh foie gras and wines there. This morning it seems Sarko had the same idea.
        I highly recommend the food fairs that take place in Paris, like the Ham Fair (Foire aux Jambons) in the suburb town of Chatou starting next wkend for 10 days, and marché de producteurs de pays, usually in late May and mid November.

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        1. re: Parigi

          I would respectfully offer another opinion from the other side of the Mont.
          Re: "Ditto the rotisserie chicken stands."
          On the rue du Poteau we have have fine rotisserie - Maitre Mathieu - who does everything from short ribs to Thanksgiving turkeys (28 the year I last asked).
          Re: "The French think one should sit and enjoy a leiisurely meal, and not run&eat."
          Couldn't agree more.
          Re: " Likewise there is no takeout coffee in a styrofoam cup either." Well it's more like an ancient Amtrak cup, but our newslady, outdoor fruit stand workers, butchers, etc., do indeed schlep their coffees back to work in containers as they're setting up.
          But I agree in principle, that sit down is better than take-out altho' I did that tonite with sushi from real Japanese sushi-folk.

          1. re: John Talbott

            "On the rue du Poteau we have have fine rotisserie - Maitre Mathieu"

            We are not disagreeing at all, not even on this point. The proof is that you have your initié's roast chicken address and obviously do not patronize just any roast place. I used to have my own initié's rotisserie too, sniff sniff, until My Chicken Man joined the China-Eldorado and up and went to Beijing to set up his rotisserie biz there, boohoo.
            Must run to help hubby poo cook the aiguillettes de canard that he got from the Salon de l'Agriculture. Ciao, chow.

            1. re: Parigi

              Parigi,

              one factor in choosing my apt. on St. Lazare was M. Patureau's rotisserie directly across the street. Even though he has sold out we will again be there in May. Is the new owner not keeping the same standards? The Sunday morning lines used to extend well into the street, which is also the case with Dr. T.'s Maitre Mathieu who also has a wider selection, especially the selection of sausages which I couldn't get home with without sampling on the way.

              1. re: Laidback

                "one factor in choosing my apt. on St. Lazare was M. Patureau's rotisserie directly across the street."

                Your and My Chicken Man is now turning his rotisserie in Beijing somewhere, localizing his seasoning with Dan Dan sauce. I used to have his number on speed-dial, under the name Chickenman.

                "Even though he has sold out we will again be there in May. Is the new owner not keeping the same standards?"

                The consensus is a slow nooo. It is not bad, but no better than not bad. The chicken has definitely lost that loving feeling.

                "The Sunday morning lines used to extend well into the street,"

                That's why I had his number on speed-dial... Come (what) May, we can cry on each other's shoulders at the Marché de producteurs de pays.

                "which is also the case with Dr. T.'s Maitre Mathieu who also has a wider selection, especially the selection of sausages"

                That's it I'm invading the 18th. -- Is it the part of rue Poteau near J Joffrin? That's practically the burbs !

                1. re: Parigi

                  Yes it is probably less than a block from the metro and across the street from the excellent Fromagerie Quatrehomme. 5 stops from you on the trusty old line #12.

                  1. re: Parigi

                    "which is also the case with Dr. T.'s Maitre Mathieu who also has a wider selection, especially the selection of sausages"

                    That's it I'm invading the 18th. -- Is it the part of rue Poteau near J Joffrin? That's practically the burbs !

                    Yes and I take umbrage at the burbs definition; our food is definitely cityfood. As Laidback notes, we're at food center.

                    John

          2. We often head to "Maceo" or "Fish" both have light options on the menu and both chefs seem to have quite a light touch. However, one of the strengths of a lot of French restaurants is that their fish and salad are good and generally available (salads less so at dinner) so I think the trick isn't to choose the restaurant* but instead to restrain the ordering.

            * obviously you do need to avoid those specialising in hearty food or aimed purely at tourist with cassoulet and duck confit.

            1. Coming back to "takeout", while not French, both Noura and Mavrommatis have light but upscale stuff suitable for a light supper.

              1. Do you know where you will be staying?

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                1. re: vielleanglaise

                  We won a stay at the Ritz.

                  Rotisseries don't seem like really practical choices, because I don't really care to carve a chicken in our hotel room with the room's corkscrew, but maybe I am misunderstanding what a chicken man is? : )

                  1. re: hbfoodie7

                    If you can't find a knife to cut up chicken then can we assume you can't find a spoon and fork and napkin? How do you expect to eat "take away" if you have this attitude? What exactly are you looking for here.. signed "short fuse in Indy."

                    1. re: hychka

                      To be fair to the OP they did ask for "sit down light meals" as well and 99% of our replies are for take out.

                      1. re: hychka

                        I have nearly lived in hotels for years, and it never would occur to me to try and eat a whole chicken in hotel room without a having a proper kitchen. Maybe I am in the minority. Have any of you honestly done this?

                        1. re: hbfoodie7

                          Who said a whole chicken? The rotisserie sells half or eveb quarter.

                          1. re: Parigi

                            That is useful information! Chickens are sold whole in the US. I suppose I will be packing plastic forks and knives in our suitcases.

                            1. re: hbfoodie7

                              Btw, high congratulations on your Ritz "win".
                              O and tell the hotel to show some class and give you some nice silverware for your in-room picnic!
                              It might - and should - do that. Once I was staying in a vineyard b&b in Burgundy - read: nothing Ritz-y - and was too exhausted to go out to dinner one evening. The vintner not only told me in which village I could find a good traiteur, but he also insisted on lending me proper dinnerware: porcelain plates, real wine glasses, silverware, cloth napkins, the works. And he nagged me: "whatever you do, you must dine comfortably." Is that the best of French spirit or what.

                            2. re: Parigi

                              In fact, my chicken guy sells wings and legs and breasts alone and will chop up a 1/2 chicken or whole chicken into how many pieces one wants.

                              1. re: John Talbott

                                ....and the really good thing is that when you wake up the next morning the room should smell of nice roast chicken, it is so nice to be able to remember meals.

                                I can understand picnicking in a room (although Paris hotel rooms tend to be tiny - maybe not the Ritz) to save money or if you are staying for a few weeks and are sick of restaurants (we stayed for over a month in one in Paris). But there are lots of wine bars and cafes that have simple menus and light meals. Many will sell a simple composed salad, you can sit outside and soak up the Parisian atmosphere.

                                1. re: PhilD

                                  That was more of what type of info I was seeking, take out only if we are completely jet lagged and exhausted, but I was seeking meal options that we would not feel expected to order multi-course meals, and even better, find restaurants that put health and taste as top priorities.

                                  1. re: hbfoodie7

                                    Two other types of light dinners come to mind.
                                    1) Savoury crepes or galettes- depending on the type of filling you choose can make them pretty healthy or pretty decadent. But still, it's the type of establishment where one would not feel required to order a multi-course meal. There are earlier threads on crepes. I like the Breizh Café, http://www.breizhcafe.com, in the Marais.
                                    2) Japanese- There are a couple of options near the Palais Royal on the rue de Richelieu which would be a short walk for you. One- Matsuri,http://www.matsuri.fr/restaurants.html, appears to be unchanged; the other, Issé Tempura & Tapas, seems to have been transformed into Una seï by Issé. It's been a few years, but if I was interested in a light, healthy meal, I would consider one of them. I'm hoping someone else who has been recently can comment on whether they are still good.