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hitpas Mar 4, 2010 12:51 PM

Looking for good and fairly reasonable take out in the E. 84th and Lex area. Any ethnicity. ALSO, any good breakfast spots would be greatly appreciated. AND, if I'm not being too pushy, any great food shopping that I shouldn't miss - butchers, produce, cheese, etc.?
Thanks.

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    pbjluver Mar 4, 2010 12:59 PM

    a fav of mine is BEYOGLU
    81st and Third
    delicious Turkish Mediterranean
    takeout available

    As much as I like Eli's (80th and Third)
    their prices are astronomical.

    Do like I do...shop at Fairway (Broadway), then bus it crosstown - 79th St.

    If the rumors are true, Fairway is coming to 86th St. between 2nd & 3rd Ave.
    where Barnes & Noble/Circuit City used to be.

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      gutsofsteel Mar 4, 2010 01:03 PM

      Don't miss the wonderful market Agata & Valentina on 79th & 1st. Excellent butcher, cheese, fish produce, and many reasonably priced gourmet items, prepared foods, house branded olive oil, bread, fresh pasta, etc etc

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        babbabooey Mar 4, 2010 01:20 PM

        zabars-oops it was reccomended!

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          gutsofsteel Mar 4, 2010 01:28 PM

          Zabar's is on the west side. The OP is asking for upper east side spots.

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            babbabooey Mar 4, 2010 01:43 PM

            was referring to eli zabar's actually, sorry...guess i wasnt clear
            1411 Third Avenue
            (corner of East 80th Street)

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              gutsofsteel Mar 4, 2010 01:49 PM

              Ah....it's just called Eli's. And it's a huge ripoff.

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                babbabooey Mar 4, 2010 01:57 PM

                i wonder why i was confused by the name?
                http://www.elizabar.com/zabar/

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                  gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 04:56 AM

                  His name is Eli Zabar, but none of his stores are called Zabar's....Zabar's is his brother's store, on the west side.

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          alillazy Mar 4, 2010 01:53 PM

          I second Agata & Valentina. They always had a great selection of just about anything you needed. And stuff you didn't even know you needed! Been a while since I've been there because I now live downtown, but boy do I miss this place!

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          hitpas Mar 5, 2010 04:55 AM

          Thanks for great some ideas and, yes, I will be schlepping across the park alot, no doubt. Looking forward to A&V and haven't been to Schaeller & Webber in a thousand years.

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            gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 04:57 AM

            Also check out the Hungarian market on 2nd & 81st St.

          2. thew Mar 5, 2010 05:24 AM

            cascabel taqueria - 2nd ave and 80th st
            paty's taco truck - lex and 86th

            wa jeal chili house - szechuan food, 2nd ave and 81st
            chana - south indian and dosas 1st and 87th
            lili's noodle house - 3rd and 84t

            breakfast:
            gracie's corner - 86th and 1st
            viand - 2nd ave and 86th

            the pickle/olive store on 1st and 86th

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              gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 05:38 AM

              I think Szechuan Chalet is better than Wa Jeal, but I like them both.

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                thew Mar 5, 2010 08:41 AM

                i only tried the chalet once, and was not impressed. they deserve another chance though

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                  MVNYC Mar 7, 2010 01:20 PM

                  While they are both good I prefer Wa Jeal, I definitely get more Ma La out of their food.

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              Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 5, 2010 06:09 AM

              Naruto Ramen on 89/3rd is under-appreciated, if you ask me. It's much more reminiscent of a traditional Japanese Ramenya than most of the popular places in NYC.

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                gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 06:10 AM

                I just wish the broth were better.

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                  thew Mar 5, 2010 08:43 AM

                  i really like naruto ramen. i think the miso ramen is the best of their regular ramens. i hear good things about the fried rice, but have not tried it. the monthly ramens are good, though the tatamein we a little one note for my taste

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                    Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 5, 2010 10:23 AM

                    I tend to prefer Japanese fried rice, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but I think they serve some of the best fried rice in NYC. It's made to order, so it's always hot & fresh.

                    The pork buns, however, are just decent. Excellent value compared to other places around the city, but not in that top tier.

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                      Produce Addict Mar 7, 2010 10:42 AM

                      do you know if they deliver?

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                        Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 7, 2010 06:48 PM

                        I'm almost positive I've ordered delivery from them before. Having said that, I greatly prefer sitting at the counter.

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                          thew Mar 8, 2010 04:48 AM

                          i've seen that they do take out, and i believe they package the noodles and soup separately - but i cannot swear to it, as i've never done it. They might deliver, but i can't say i ever saw a delivery guy go out the door while i was there.

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                            teresa Mar 8, 2010 05:24 AM

                            I've done take out and they do separate the noodles and the soup. It just tastes better sitting at the bar. Yum! I would assume they package it the same way for delivery.

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                    teresa Mar 5, 2010 07:39 AM

                    I'm a fan of their Curry Ramen. Yum. It's not bad for ramen in the UES. I'm also a big fan of Pio Pio (Peruvian roasted chicken & french fries). I'm not sure about breakfast places since I'm still looking for a good brunch place. Uptown Lounge does a pretty good brunch. Corner Bakery isn't too bad either. I am enjoy their corn bread. :) Welcome to the neighborhood! Oh yes, don't forget Two Little Red Hens for Brooklyn Blackout Cake and their cheesecake. Mmm.

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                      uwsister Mar 5, 2010 12:45 PM

                      I second Naruto Ramen, I don't live in the neighborhood but when I'm there it's one of my go-to spots. Good deals on different days too.

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                      rpk Mar 5, 2010 03:33 PM

                      Breakfast in a real hole-in-the-wall joint calls for Burger One (Lex @ 79th St), where I liked the egg sandwich w/bacon & cheese as well as the fries. For coffee & a cherry danish or similar such Hungarian pastry, there's Andre's Cafe (@ 84th St). Fancier breakfasts can be found at Sarabeth's (@ 92nd St), but I actually like Alice's Tea Cup better. The cornmeal pancakes w/fruit are very nice, and my wife seriously adores the scones. Note, however, that the kitchen tends to be rather slow, so they can get terribly backed up on the weekends.

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                        gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 03:36 PM

                        I love Burger One. Best greasy burger around. Sorry to say that I think Andre's has gone way downhill. The cabbage strudel is still pretty good. Much better cherry and poppyseed strudel is to be found at the Hungarian Market on 2nd/81st.

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                        gutsofsteel Mar 5, 2010 03:34 PM

                        For Breakfast you must go to Cafe Sabarsky. Unparalleled in NYC.

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                          Brian W Mar 6, 2010 02:01 PM

                          Take out: Chicken Festival on First at 82 Street. Same Peruvian chicken as Pio Pio only cheaper.

                          Breakfast: Peter's Gourmet Diner om First at 83 Street. They really know how to fry eggs properly and the home fries are delicious. Fresh squeezed orange juice, the coffee is good and the staff recognizes the regulars. Only problem is they open at 11 am.
                          Gracie Mews at First and 81 Street is good but the home fries are not so. They make the best waffle in the neighborhood - very light and fluffy. Also the OJ is fresh squeezed.

                          Shopping: We rely on Fairway crosstown but Agata & Valentina has a lot to offer, albeit a bit more expensive in some areas. The apples are crispier than from Fairway. Try the ciabattini - it's a ciabatta roll a little larger than a club roll and makes a great hero sandwich if you feel like pigging out on cold cuts. The olive oil is great (as good as Fairway's) and has come down in price lately. The best deal on olive oil is at Costco, their house brand Tuscan oil is 12.99 per liter and I suspect it is the same Tuscan oil as at Agata which is $20 per 750ml.

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                          Agata & Valentina
                          1505 1st Ave, New York, NY 10021

                          Peter's
                          1606 1st Ave, New York, NY 10028

                          Gracie Mews
                          1550 1st Ave, New York, NY 10028

                          Chicken Festival
                          1584 1st Ave, New York, NY 10028

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                            City Kid Mar 8, 2010 05:37 AM

                            Brian W: Thanks so much for the Chicken Festival rec! I have gone by there so many times and never took note. Yesterday I got takeout chicken and it was not only cheaper than Pio Pio, but I thought better and the addictive green sauce, much hotter. What a great discovery!

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                            jjensen1 Mar 7, 2010 04:34 AM

                            I would try Ottomanelli's on York in btwn 86th and 85th. Its a great spot to go with kids (BYOB) or for take-out. I think the quality is consistent and great prices. I agree with Gracie's Corner for breakfast. Eli's on 90th in btwn york and 1st is great for brunch on the wknds imo. Great bloody mary and the potatoes make the meal.

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                              gutsofsteel Mar 7, 2010 05:02 AM

                              The Vinegar Factory is on 91st St. And it is so overpriced it makes my head spin.

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                                jjensen1 Mar 7, 2010 05:13 AM

                                sorry, 91st and fair enough. I just think its good quality which is sometimes tough in that neighborhood for breakfasts. Please let me know some good spots to try if I am wrong.

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                                gutsofsteel Mar 7, 2010 12:18 PM

                                Ottomanelli's serves such lousy pasta...

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                                  jjensen1 Mar 7, 2010 01:07 PM

                                  too bad you think that. i just think for the value and quality its a great take out option in that specific 'hood. there are not a ton of places to choose from who are as consistent as Ottomanelli's.

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                                    gutsofsteel Mar 7, 2010 01:36 PM

                                    Their pasta is on a par with all the diners in the area, no better. And I agree it's consistent - consistently mediocre. There are many mediocre Italian places in the neighborhood.

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                                      Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 7, 2010 06:53 PM

                                      I think their pasta is okay; but is that really the point when judging a place famous for steaks and burgers (which are tremendous values, IMO)?

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                                hitpas Mar 7, 2010 07:44 AM

                                This is all so helpful. Thanks!

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                                  piegirl74 Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM

                                  I used to play the part of a pack mule and schlep my groceries from Trader Joe's at Union Square (including wine). Then hoof it up to the top of my 5th floor walkup. Yikes! :-)

                                  For takeout, my fave was Beyoglu (as mentioned by pbjluver). I still hit that place when Im in the nabe. Patlican domades soslu and cacik are heaven. The shrimp casserole is also delicious and travels well. It's also a great spot for a weekend lunch.

                                  Andres (hungarian on 2nd ave) makes divine cherry strudel and they are also good for breakfast.

                                  I love Alice's tea cup for any time of day (they have great breakfast dishes, too).

                                  I also used to go to Vinyl for breakfast when they served their egg sammy on a biscuit (biscuits are hard to come by in NYC!), but they have since switched to a roll which I don't enjoy as much.

                                  Gracie's is good diner food - great waffles. (And they are good about trying to keep families on one side of the diner, and non-kid groups on the other side).

                                  I used to order pizza from a place called Giorgio's. I found it was the best in the area for delivery when I didn't want to leave the apt.

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                                    gutsofsteel Mar 8, 2010 12:05 PM

                                    Vinyl hasn't existed on the UES for a while now.

                                    And Andre's has gone very far downhill.

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                                    Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 11, 2010 07:10 PM

                                    As a side note, since the UES pizza is hit-or-miss (to put it kindly):

                                    Gotham Pizza (77th & York) is a great slice joint. High-quality, standard issue NY pies--until you get to the crust, which is dusted with breadcrumbs for extra crunch. I've recently noticed a few other places have imitated this style with much less success.

                                    Abitino's (82nd & 1st) makes a mean grandma pie. It's weird, because almost every other location of this mini-chain is truly awful.

                                    Pintaile's (91st & Mad) is good if you're into fancy toppings and organic crust. If not, it's ah, interesting. I'd give it a try if it sounds up your alley.

                                    Il Fornaio (97 & Lex) is run by an old Italian dude named Frank. Frank has one oven and is the only person who works there. The slices may not be super consistent (he often makes a bunch in the morning and reheats during lunch hours), but when they're in top form, they're the best slice near you. No delivery, though.

                                    Nick's (94th & 2nd) and Giovanna's (100 & Lex) compete for best Brooklyn-style pizza. Both are decent enough.

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                                      thew Mar 12, 2010 04:06 AM

                                      gotham is good, but in no way standard issue - because of the crust - which has cornmeal. that crust style was made at two boots for many years before gotham opened.

                                      my favorite slice in the area is italian village on 80th and 1st. crust has both crisp and chew - essential for NY pizza, some people say the sauce is too sweet for them, but i like it. but then it's the pizza i grew up on - so it's a baseline slice for me.

                                      there's a new place on 78th and york that's decent, has several different styles

                                      delizia on 73rd and 1st has a devoted following, but honestly, their pizza was great some 15 years ago, but since they moved next door, the quality has declined.

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                                        Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 14, 2010 04:34 PM

                                        Did you read my description of Gotham, or just the first 1.5 sentences?

                                        And they use breadcrumbs, not cornmeal.

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                                          thew Mar 14, 2010 05:27 PM

                                          i read the entire thing - and i was not arguing against you. i had a quibble w/ your use of the phrase "standard issue" , but then i think pizza is defined by the crust so, to me, being standard except the crust is not being standard at all. the guy said cornmeal to me when i asked, but i wouldn't swear to it. the only other place i've seen with that style of pizza in NYC is two boots, which predates gotham by a good decade or 2, so i feel more like gotham is the imitator, not the imitatee.

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                                            gutsofsteel Mar 14, 2010 06:06 PM

                                            I really dislike the cornmeal thing. For example I cannot stand the pizza at Two Boots.

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                                              Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 14, 2010 07:06 PM

                                              Here's some clarity on the breadcrumbs:
                                              http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives...

                                              I won't get into why/how a preposition can be used to qualify a statement, since we have different definitions of pizza.

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                                                MVNYC Mar 14, 2010 10:18 PM

                                                Gotham pizza is good. Very thin but crisp crust with those extra things, whatever they may be. Their margarita is actually excellent.

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                                                  thew Mar 15, 2010 05:44 AM

                                                  i like gotham a lot. i just wouldnt call them standard NYC pizza in any way

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                                                    Bone Thug n Hominy Mar 15, 2010 06:08 PM

                                                    If they were dusting the pizza with cinnamon sugar, I'd see where you were coming from (but I'd still disagree). But, we are obviously of similar opinion on the actual food, so whatever..

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