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my ultimate list of eating all across LA and every type of food (LONG!)

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because the LA visitor season is just starting and because everyone i meet always asks me, i made list of good joints to chow at. i obviously have way too much time on my hands. i thought i'd put my phd in applied culinary anthropology to good use.

still a work in progress, just started and is by no means exhaustive:
davids chow list:

Japanese:
gaja - torrance - okonomiyaki/monjayaki restaurant (postwar japanese pancake osaka style/tokyo style - more watery) you make it on a grill on your table. the monjayaki is like cabbage burm containing a flour flood!
sushi-gen - jtown - high quality - good value. sashimi lunch (10.50)and dinner specials are unbeatable (you often get lots of toro) except by
kasen - orange county - sushi: best sushi in socal. very japanese. only salariman eating there. expensive except for chirashi sushi lunch. multiple grades of toro, uni, abalone, mirugai, hamachi and more all for $18. in a crappy minimall in fountain valley. i hear they discourage gai jin though have never seen it with my own eyes.
matsuhisa: good but overrated/priced. i ate next to marky mark last time. black cod and foie gras, exclusive tempura bar, sucky decor. nobu just hangs out and shakes hands. nobu in london sucks royally!
daikokuya - jtown - ramen - pork bone ramen only. i heard the signless glass brick spot across the street is a high end brothel!
orochan ramen - 3rd floor weller court. many levels of spiciness. eating the top levels gets your pic on the wall.
shinsengumi - torrance - robatayaki - screaming waiters and rock star gloved grill masters
furaibo - sawtelle - izakaya: teba saki specialist, great rare duck breast, fried halibut
2117 - sawtelle - euro with japanese twist - affordable gourmet, good prix fixe lunch. better than:
sawtelle kitchen - sawtelle - fusiony: where white guys take their asian girlfriends for "cute dinner".
urusawa - old ginza sushi co spot in b hills - for the rarified dining journey. 250/head. before drinks tax or tip. go during fugu season.
blue marlin - sawtelle- good curries and pastas done al dente. uni and spinach spaghetti is kind of unique. have lunch specials.
kiriko - good westside sushi. has good home made ice cream. black sesame, ginger, red bean. yum! chef/owner can get stressed.
yokohama shokusu - next to yokohama ramen in westside - konnyaku and beef tendon soup. feels like you're in someones living room. homestyle dishes you dont often find in LA. for some reason no one knows this place.
Umenohana - beverly hills - artisinal high end tofu tasting menu for foodies.
1000 cranes - in the new otani in jtown - high end tempura bar. pricey but worth it! overlooks roof garden.
kokekokko: little tokyo: grilled chicken in all its glory. no longer serves chicken sashimi which i had in tokyo last year.
r-23 - little tokyo near sci arc - designer sushi on nice ceramics. sit on cardboard chairs in a brick loft space. started by people who did nishimura and hump.

mexican:
el taurino - hoover and olympic - tacos! al pastor! lengua!
tacos baja ensenada - east la - best fried baja style fish tacos, shrimp too. 99cent wednesday taco special
ciros - east la - flautas or taquitos (overrated) free fresh guac but old mexican american history. across the street from mexican american institution el tepayac, home of the hollenbeck burrito.
la china poblana- cemitas sandwiches (lighter bread than a torta) milanesa with avocado and panela cheese. from a truck in a parking lot.
la serenata de garibaldi - east la - where white people go for gourmet mexican. fish with delicate sauces
babita - san gabriel - the other gourmet mexican joint. many regions, shrimp tampolobampo - spicy!
large market - east la - mariachi mariachi mariachi! upstairs, dueling mariachi compete for your attention in this mexican dim sum sized restaurant. near evergreen cemetery on E 1st street and lorena. food upstairs soso, just snack on corn with chile and mayonaise, and other vendor snacks
la flor de yucatan - hoover north of 10 - yucatecan -best cochinita pibil in town, only on weekends. otherwise its a bakery. kibi meatballs, salbutos etc. much tastier than chichen itza at the mercado la paloma. yucatecan cuisine has moroccan influence so the cooking style is very different from most other regional mexican cuisines)
la parilla - silverlake and east la - grilled meats - stone bowl of meat, cactus and cheese and beer deal. good homemade guac
birrieria chalio - east la - birria - get your goat on. michoacano style!
Guelaguetza - ktown and westside - everybodys favorite oaxacan joint. moles. personally not too into it.
jalisco style, sinaloan, de efe style, etc still looking.
mamas hot tamales cafe - pico union - tamale collective! right next to langers deli where you must try the pastrami. see below!
juanito's - east la - artisinally crafted tamales. they sell out of certain ones. call ahead.
la fonda - macarthur park - only for margaritas and mariachi. food is whatever.

pupusas - salvadorean - all over town, try texis, or in the grand central market

cubano sandwiches at cafe tropical in silverlake (fresh juices and overbrewed strong coffee), portos in glendale (great baked goods, coffee and cheap) and floral bakery in atwater (homemade ice cream with exotic fruit flavors). garlic chicken at versailles is overrated but cheap.

chinese - all 10 minutes east of downtown in either san gabriel, monterey park or rosemead
important note: when eating chinese food - make sure health rating is b or lower. if it has A, theyre not "keepring it reer"
sea harbor seafood - best dim sum in town - fancier than most old school joints. no carts.
dai ho - best taiwanese style beef noodle soup, cold appetizers
chung king - authentic sichuanese
best szechuan - just up the street. - ask to order off of chinese menu
ma lan - hand pulled noodles. get the chicken and leeks with fat tagliatelle style noodles - like a uyghur dish.
Heavy Noodling - dao shao mian (knife cut noodles) hearty!
din tai fung - taiwanese style xiao long bao (soup dumplings - a bit pricey and more delicate, some say less flavorful)
focus plaza - aka: the great mall of china. eat anywhere in here. del mar and valley. shanghainese on second floor, islamic chinese, ay-chung second floor for taiwanese snacks
savoy - hong kong cafe style - everyone gets the hainan chicken rice. not to singapore standards but good. young scene
phoenix bakery - chinese desserts - puddings, warm porrigey desserts, melon delight
healthy dessert - mango in birdnest. sago. cocunut sorbet and mango ice cream permutations
tung lai shun - islamic chinese. baked sesame bread. lamb! yum.
green village in the focus plaza. shanghainese. xiao long bao, san jian bao, braised fish, sweet savory brown sauces. lions head meatballs.
yung ho tou chiang - dou jiang (soy milk soup for breakfast) -i like salty but can get sweet too. good shao bing you tiao (oil stick-fried cruellers wrapped in sesame bread that you dip)
luscious dumplings or dumpling master. many forms of jiao zi
huas garden - yunnanese food. guo qiao mian - crossing bridge noodles and other dishes.
my god too many to write down.

vietnamese:
golden deli - vietnamese snack foods - pho, bun, good cha gio (fried spring rolls)
phong dinh - home of the famous baked cat fish (enough for three). lots of crazy game meats too. goat ribs. fox! venison!
lee's baguette - grand progenitor of the banh mi wars.
nga trang - formery brodard two of orange county fame - good summer rolls with little crispy cruellers in the middle. i like the bun hanoi, different types of grilled pork with vietnamese herbs to wrap
pho 79 - not the best but not bad. downtown la. check the large george nelson lamps. i tried to buy them once but they said they were rare japanese antiques, i didnt want to burst their bubble.
for real good vietnamese go to bolsa/westminster in the OC

burmese:
golden triangle - whittier - mohinga (fish stew) onokowswe (coconut chicken noodle soup) lepet thoke (tea leaf salad)

indian:
udupi palace - artesia - southern indian. veggie. good dosas the size of garbage can lids, good everything actually
woodlands - artesia - similar to above
shan - artesia - muslim indian - meat (weekend buffet)
surati farsan - large selection of chaats, around the corner from udupi. just ask anyone. pani puri (like a dorito 3d that you crack and stuff with yoghurty potatoes and veggies then dunk into a tangy cold soup. crunchy, soft, creamy, sour all at once!)
bombay cafe - westside gourmet style indian. tasty but pricey!
india sweets and spices: westside and atwater village. veggie indian fast food that is completely passable although not particularly fine. westside joint is next to museum of jurassic technology which is defintely worth a visit! curator/creator won the macarthur prize a few years back. represent!
Ambala Dhaba on westwood blvd. authentic non veg indian food. home made kulfi ice cream

persian:
Shahrzad Restaurant - good home made breads, meze, lamb chops.
lots of persian on westwood blvd.
Rose Market - on westwood blvd south of santa monica- homemade persian ice cream - rose water, pistachio, served on little wafers and those little white noodle things and red sweet syrup if you want it.
Mashti Malones - similar to above but in hollywood.

armenian:
near thai town
caroussel - glendale and little armenia - very tasty meze. stick to these. glendale spot is more elegant and tastier.
mandaloun - elegant lebanese armenian. weekends have set menu dinner with live band.
sahags basturma - ask sahag or his wife for a taste of his basturma. like a super powerful beef prosciutto cold cut. also make good homemade veal sausages with pinenuts and armenian beef spicy sausage called Soujouk. he can make these into sandwiches. buy
a bottle of pomegranate juice too! tell him the bearded chinese kid sent you!
if you like sausage check out the merguez sausage at Hadar Orthodox Kosher Meat on fairfax.
arax bakery - taste the lahmajune and maenesh (sort of mini pizza like things with lots of mediterranean herbs) fresh out of the oven. can toast in a toaster oven too. good snacks.

thai:
wat thai - thai temple north hollywood - weekend food stalls just like bangkok! good som tum (papaya salad), grilled meats, coconut desserts. near the 170 and 5 freeways
ruen pair - open to 3am. good food all around. poo dong (raw marinated crab with garlic, lime and chili) noodles
palm thai - only go for thai elvis. food is okay
thailand plaza second floor restaurant - large place good for big groups. thai singers and good food. have that spicy sour and salty soup with omlette. forgot its name but its not easily found in other restaurants that i've found. famous thai singers sing here)
kruang tedd - go after 11pm and drink beers and rock out to thai music with college kids. very fun! can also stop into jumbos clown room (ghetto strip club where courtney love used to dance) if you get bored.
sapp coffeeshop - closes early but it feels a lot like bangkok. lots of bangkok style thai chinese dishes.
renu nakorn - norwalk - supposed to be good, particularly for esarn food (near laos) never went cuz its so close to artesia indian restaurants.
sompun - silverlake - mainly for white hipsters but they have khao soi. the famous chiang mai creamy coconut curry noodle soup
note: if you get an in - many of the joints in thai town will serve you booze til 5am while you listen to people sing maw lam or look toong music (thai country music)

peruvian:
marios: hollywood - the joint that eveyone knows about. fried with fried. heavy but tasty...run by chinese peruvians. decent ambiance...
inti: if marios is too packed. zero ambience...
pollo a la brasa: ktown - rotisserie chicken grilled with wood. best taken away.

brazilian:
cafe brazil: westside - byob laid back joint with grilled meats and tasty apps near:
zabumba: live samba band and turns into dancing after dinner.

greek: papa christos on normandie and pico. go on a sunday when people from the orthodox church across the street pile in. good market for mediterranean goods too. cheap lamb chops! in the speakeasy district of south korea town. check out the club next door "catch 22" wonder what goes on in there...

cambodian:
have yet to check out the cambodian scene in little phnom phen in long beach.
Chhom Nimol, the famous classically trained singer who also sings with dengue fever sings at Dragon House. hear the food isnt good though.
i hear new paradise and hak heang are good.

hamburgers:
in n out - everywhere - double double animal style protein style. fries well done animal style.
apple pan - westside- old school burgers. water in paper cones, guys pour ketchup for you with a seasoned flip of the wrist
cassells - old school foodie burger favorite in the heart of ktown across the street from tang song sah. home made mayo. crazy homemade grill contraption. garlicy potato salad. now owned by koreans but still og. i actually dont like the burgers as much as i
want to. i saw a guy plop a half peach on his burger once. respect!
pie n burger in pasadena. pies and burgers. old school!
fathers office: santa monica - sang yoon, old executive chef from michaels opened this joint. decent tapas but a rockin gourmet burger if you can stand the frat boys and noise and lack of seating.
tommy's - go to the original on rampart at 2:15 am. kinda gross but kinda awesome
jays jayburger - i hope they will resurface. chili cheese burger with bacon and a fried egg. who needs flexbile arteries?
see taylors steakhouse below. under old la
see mccormick and schmicks and nick and stefs under happy hour below

korean
soot bul jeep - bbq ghetto style - but tasty. mesquite wood bbq. bring disposable clothes. and the fire gets really hot!
chosun kalbi - fancy designer bbq. cool architecuture with inside*inside/outside*outside concept)
sa rit gol - good pan chan get the black cod and daikon stew! dol sut bibimbap good too.
beverly soon tofu, sokongdong soontofu - you decide which one you like better. beverly has better atmosphere.
olympic kalgooksu - kalgooksu (knife cut noodles in garlic chicken broth) and mandoo, awesome wall paper
tang song sah - 6th and berendo - cool po jang ma cha (korean pub) like a war bunker feel. get the pork ribs, grilled squid, the fried battered dumbell things with the japchae noodles inside. grilled skewers. tofu kimchi and spicy salad.
my secret recipe - grilled octopus and onions in gochujang sauce. fry leftovers with rice and nori and sesame oil later. lots of cool bangladeshi markets around the corner
mandarin house - im a chinese snob, but i actually dont mind korean style ja jang myun. the other korean style chinese food can just disappear for all i care.
han bat - sullongtang. hangover rememdy. best at two am.
yong susan - fancy set course kaesang korean. avoid the cheapest set course.
odae san - korean style sushi restaurant. lots of side dishes. quantity over quality. heavy on the white fish like halibut - koreans like it chewy... chili vinegar dipping sauces. try sea squirt. freaky looking and tastes like the ocean! looks like an alien.
chin ko gae - 8th and berendo. black goat stew with lots of veggies! funky like maceo.
san - 8th + berendo - chinese character for mountain. abalone porrige that tastes like a wonderful risotto and cornish game hen stuffed with sticky rice made into a soup with ginseng and garlic. good for colds.
bok - (alvarado and james m wood) blowfish soup. they make the leftovers into jook at the end. lots of food!
prince hotel - walking distance from soot bul jeep. a piece of old la. red banquettes, oil paintings, beefeater lamps done up ajashi style! booze and bar snacks. way cooler than hms bounty.
chapman market - sixth and alexandria - for expensive mediocre coffee, booze and a procession of leased bmw's and the hot ktown girls that love the guys that drive those cars.
the corner place restaurant : famous for korean white somen noodles with the sour mool kimchi soup base. inexpensive bbq too.

gourmet:
a.o.c - suzanne goins newest. wines by the glass, charcuterie, cheeses. brought the small plates craze to LA. mediterranean
sona - david and michelle myers. high concept. very high. tastes good? you decide. seared scallop in tomato water drizzled with argon oil. that kind of shit.
angelini osteria - solid food. a bit cramped. good pasta primi's and sea salt encrusted baked branzini. gino angelini just won a james beard award this year. good italian wines. barolo!
spago beverly hills - wolfgang himself gave me a handshake!
patina - heard its gone downhill since the move to the disney concert hall. but you get to eat inside a gehry bldg! make sure you eat on someone elses dime!
bastide: french food with california experimentalism. deconstructed foods. frozen shit. crazy combinations. love it or hate it.
capo: santa monica - small italian restuarant with woodgrilled meats. last time i ate here i saw steven spielberg, tom hanks,larry david, albert brooks, dustin hoffman and wives. and this joints got maybe 30 tables.

gourmet deals:
jiraffe - santa monica - monday prix fixe dinner. french. good chocolate souffle.
lucques - west hollywood - suzanne goins original spot, 35 dollar 3 course prix fixe on sunday. good to share at the bar with a glass of wine.
josie - wednesday market dinner prix fixe. 30 dollar 3 course. only until they sell out.

happy hours:
nick and stefs - joachim splichals steak house downtown. good burger and aged steaks
ciudad - mojitos and finger foods downtown. mary sue milliken and susan feniger of border grill fame
mccormick and schmicks - not a bad burger for 2 bucks! the beverly hills spot feels like and is lit like vegas.

old la:
phillippes or coles pe buffet. both claim to have invented the french dip at the same time. old school! you decide. ask to get the sandwiches double dipped. lamb sandwich is good but sometimes is really fatty.
cliftons cafeteria - decent cafeteria food (think mac and cheese) check the upstairs, the chapel. way too much kitsch to take in!
uncle johns ham and eggs - think blade runner noir. chinese guys cooking diner food in a shotgun cafeteria. next to golden gopher. pork chop rice or ham and eggs or omlette with chinese chilis. inadvertant ghetto fusion.
the pantry - dick riordans family restaurant. never closed. so so diner food.
grand central market downtown. wander and nibble. good juice bar and tasty pupusas.
hanks bar in the hotel stillwell near staples. good dive bar with mirrors and mannequins. 'nuff said.
langers deli - do yourself a favor and have a pastrami here. best in the world. pay attention to the bread. hand carved pastrami. this place is a one trick pony so stick to the pastrami. i ate here and flew to new york the next day and ate at katz's and second avenue. this place is the best. al langer rocks! oh yeah, good noodle kuegel too.
taylors steak house - ktown - steaks, chopped steak burger, molly salad. old school la stuck in a time warp in current ktown and little central america. hear the culotte isnt very good. doesnt that mean panties in french? still has old ladies with blue hair eating here. reasonably priced too.
soda jerks - pasadena - old fashioned soda fountain and they serve fosselmans ice cream!

interesting cultural experiences one must check out:
lowenbrau keller - silverlake adjacent - craziest visual feast of a restaurant in town. good german food too! opened by billy wilders prop master and it shows. if not for food, just come and have a beer and wander around the restaurant. would take weeks to soak in the stuff in here. run by two old women.

babe and rickys inn - leimert park. 5 dollars gets you a show with micky champion the best 70 year old mike-less blues singer in the world and a soul food dinner. trick is the food isnt served till 11pm. mondays. she also sings downtown by jtown on sunday
nights.

prayer assembly of god - weekend bbq at a black church on el segundo and avalon. smokey but sometimes dry bbq.
also try phillips bbq on crenshaw. take away.

quality seafood - redondo pier - benches, cheap pitchers, 20 types of oysters in salt water tanks. crab and live uni etc.

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  1. Thanks for wonderful 5.30am wake up read.

    1. Fantastic list. What a gift to the board!

      Looking forward to working my way through it.

        1. Thank you - it is now printing and will go along with my ever-growing to try list!!

          1. Awesome list, is there any chance if you have some time that you could do addresses for these places. Sometimes I am in an area and would just love to go somewhere new. The cell operator does not always have listings.

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              1. re: Burger Boy

                try google or any other search engine

              2. I'm sure you left something out, but damned if I can think of it.

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                  1. re: Spike

                    only things i can think of is europane and pie n burger. i dont know pasadena that well at all...

                    1. re: modernist

                      Just got back from Pie N Burger (your original post reminded me that I have not been in a while). Of course, ate WAY too much, but I sure do love the fact that they will give you as much grilled onions as you want!!! ;-) Thanks!

                  2. outstanding!

                    1. Modernist-- If you were standing in front of me I would get up and shake your hand. Wonderful list, and I hope you update this in the future, on your updated experieces. I agree with the observations you have made at about 80%. That's pretty damn high.....

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                      1. re: SchweinHexen

                        Would it be a problem to ask what your favorite Hong Kong style restaurants are?? It seems like I have not been to anything remotely good in Southern California......

                        1. re: SchweinHexen

                          what kind of hong kong food?
                          seafood?
                          cafe style? (ie. black pepper steak, coffee tea)
                          im not good at either because if im in san gabriel im usually rocking something from taiwan or the mainland, or vietnamese. just had lunch at nga trang!
                          actually the only edible chinese west of downtown is usually cantonese. jr seafood isnt bad, royal star had passable dimsum (tasty chicken feet actually)
                          little hong kong cafe is pretty decent too.

                          1. re: modernist
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                            LACheesemonger

                            "royal star had passable dimsum (tasty chicken feet actually)"

                            "Had" being the operative word since last summer at Royal Star (read my thread directly above this one), though you could get better chicken feet east of downtown, you had to know what dim sum items were the best at RS, which come to think of it applies to ALL dim sum service restaurants. I've had plenty of the 'new style' dim sum items at SHR which were merely passable and certainly no better or worse than what they used to sell at RS. Note: it's not worth waiting forever on weekends to get into SHR, go early when they open at 10AM, or you'll be sorry.

                            The LA times had a Jan. 26th, 2005 Food section primary article on So. Cal dim sum A-list restaurants (though I'd have to say 888 shouldn't be on that list, or Empress Pavilion-which is even lower down the quality scale.. ugh, Ocean Star is passable, but no better that RS was, and I liked certain RS items better than any at OS ... I'm highly selective unfortunately ;( ).

                      2. i think i love you!

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                          1. re: Ash

                            please send topless photos to:
                            modernistx@hotmail.com

                            preferably topless pics while cooking...
                            ; )

                        1. this list is great.

                          "hear the culotte isnt very good. doesnt that mean panties in french?"

                          HA!

                          1. oh, my god, dude. that was a voluminous tome. definitely impressive.

                            Link: http://www.ablowtothehead.blogspot.com

                            1. This is an amazing contribution to chowhounds everywhere. You should publish your own little restaurant guide--I imagine every chowhounder on the list would hawk it for you! Well done!

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                                1. KISSES!! For mentioning how wonderful La Flor de Yucatan is... Further, due it being a major trading port of Mexico as well as being an area with STRONG native ties, Yucatecan Cuisine is mixture of Mayan, Lebanese, Dutch and Spanish cuisines... Nothing like it in the WORLD! :D

                                  And next time you go... get an Ojaldra... a wonderful ham and cheese pastry 'pizza' :D

                                  --Dommy!

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                                  1. re: Dommy!

                                    i've had it. like a ham and cheese pastry the size of a pizza with sugar on it. heavy indeed, but very gratifying!

                                    1. re: modernist

                                      WONDERFUL!! You are ready now for the this years Chowfiesta as I unleash... the Chirmole... ;D Thanks again for the list!

                                      --Dommy!

                                  2. I think this IS the Chowhound's guide to Los Angeles...hope the big dog is reading this.

                                    1. You rock! Two things I thought of to add: (1) French--not much of a scene in LA, but i'd love to have'm listed somewhere, and (2) Mako

                                      1. Your list will find itself a permanent home in my glovebox. Thank you for this!

                                        Mr. Taster

                                        1. How on earth can I stick to a healthy diet with access to this amazing list??????? lol, thanks for sharing.

                                          1. glad everyones enjoying it. some restaurants are listed under asian names only so if you cant find it, i can point you in the right direction. but most can be found by usual internet means.

                                            1. Great list. I agree with a lot of it, but then, I'm not going to take the time and go into the detail you did. My cmopliments.

                                              There's always deli for you to try, shula and esther's for yemenite style cholent vs. the ashkenazi variety at some of the glatt places -

                                              there are three or four hungarian places, lots of russian delis, restaurants, clubs (like the old Arbat, traktir for pelmeni and great herring with boiled potatoes, royal garden in north hollywood for borscht, scads of Russian along victory)

                                              there's some interesting mexican places along victory, vanowen and sherman way - brit and irish places in santa monica and in the valley. canetti's is an oldtimey San Pedro diner.

                                              My next place to try and get in is Moonlight Sako's Mediterranean, but they are very quirky about the hours. Glad you didn't tout teriyaki house. Just rude.

                                              Basi desserts at shenyang are pretty awesome. Colombian shakes knock the cuban ones out of the water, imho. dar Maghreb vs Moun of Tunis vs Chameau, brik bstilla couscous tasty tasty tasty.

                                              There's plenty of Italian for locals, if not visitors. A fave lunch of mine is still caffe roma in beverly hills for the selection of cold items to put on my plate - just like in rome, across from Piazza Colonna.

                                              Also, papa christo's is one place - but there are other balkan joints like the bosniak place near the westside pavilion.

                                              And bbq, my friend. Philip's in leimert park is still pretty heavy=hitting. And the poor spam musubi lovers are ignored by you (serious grin emoticon).

                                              Great list - every kind of food? Great start. (kidding)
                                              Treat yourself to a coffee with incense tonight at Merkato's. you deserve it.

                                              very jealous of your eating experiences!

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                                              1. re: Jerome

                                                i tried to post something earlier that said "it was a lot of types of food, not all", but it got deleted!

                                                jerome, you are the master! we bow down! i made this list for friends and visitors, and this is the stuff i eat most frequently. i still wanna check out the nun made doughnuts you mentioned a while back and lots of other stuff.

                                                i have a serious lack of knowledge about jewish/kosher/glatt/deli stuff. ill kefintely give some of those a shot. just went to my first seder two weeks ago. a favorite new york meal is russ and daughters then walk up to ess-a bagel. oh lordy!

                                                im going to get hungarian soon at Hortobagy
                                                with a hungarian friend and then probably watch kontrol (hungarian film).

                                                i've tried to get a few people to go to aroma cafe in hopes of replicating my bourek experience in astoria queens last year. and i usually hit eastern european in new york when i visit. hanging with the polish pani's in green point etc.

                                                i tried many of the dishes you posted on best szechuan and enjoyed a lot of them. i thought the food was better than chung king. still not authentic sichuan style spicy, but its probably better that way, as half my time in chengdu i had stomache aches.

                                                1. re: modernist

                                                  Since you spent time in Chengdu, I'd be curious to hear what you have to say about Jasmine, which bills itself as having Chengdu xiaochi/snax.
                                                  They're in the same mall as Deerfield Garden behind Little Sheep.

                                                  Also, at Hortobagy, make sure to ask if they have the libamaj (hungarian foie gras, 1/10 the price of the french - not fresh here, sorry) the gesztenyepure - chestnut puree - montblanc, the palacsinta are pretty good.

                                                  Avo's in Reseda is supposed to have very good bu(umlaut)rek.

                                                  The nuns make candy and pumpkin bread. Sorry, no doughnuts.

                                                  You honor me, sir.

                                                  1. re: Jerome

                                                    ill report back with my hortobagy experience. but this guys one of those make plans 5 times, actually meet once kinda guys. might take a while.

                                                    1. re: modernist

                                                      The pumpkin bread made by cloistered Dominican nuns is one of my favorite quirky LA-food things. I often tell my visitors that it's so good that it tastes as if Jesus himself baked it. (And I'm Jewish, so that says a lot!)

                                                      It's located in the Hollywood foothills, below the Hollywood sign. Take Gower north of Franklin (just east of the 101). The monastery is the gated building on the left corner. They're closed on Sunday.

                                                      Monastery of the Angels
                                                      (323) 466-2186
                                                      1977 Carmen Ave
                                                      Los Angeles, CA 90068

                                                      Mr. Taster

                                                      1. re: Mr. Taster

                                                        this is one of my "quirky" food finds as well. the pumpkin bread is great. it should be noted that currently, the nuns only make enough for the day, and once they sell-out - that's it. no advance ordering as they used to do in the past.

                                                        1. re: jaydee

                                                          Also, it should be noted that their recipe is free for the asking, though when I tried to make it, my bread turned out dry and, for some reason, green.

                                                          Mr. Taster

                                                          1. re: Mr. Taster

                                                            did you invoke the holy spirit? =)

                                              2. Great list. For those who can't handle capitalization- & punctuation-challenged (or just plain lazy) posters:

                                                David’s (modernist) chow list:

                                                Japanese:
                                                Gaja - Torrance - okonomiyaki/monjayaki restaurant (postwar Japanese pancake osaka style/Tokyo style - more watery) you make it on a grill on your table. The monjayaki is like cabbage burm containing a flour flood!
                                                Sushi-Gen - Jtown - high quality - good value. sashimi lunch ($10.50) and dinner specials are unbeatable (you often get lots of toro) except by
                                                Kasen - Orange County - sushi: best sushi in socal. Very japanese. Only salariman eating there. expensive except for chirashi sushi lunch. Multiple grades of toro, uni, abalone, mirugai, hamachi and more all for $18. In a crappy minimall in Fountain Valley. I hear they discourage gai jin though have never seen it with my own eyes.
                                                Matsuhisa: good but overrated/priced. Black cod and foie gras, exclusive tempura bar, sucky decor. Nobu just hangs out and shakes hands. Nobu in London sucks royally!
                                                Daikokuya - Jtown - ramen - pork bone ramen only. I heard the signless glass brick spot across the street is a high end brothel!
                                                Orochan Ramen - 3rd floor weller court. Many levels of spiciness. Eating the top levels gets your pic on the wall.
                                                Shinsengumi - Torrance - robatayaki - screaming waiters and rock star gloved grill masters
                                                Furaibo - Sawtelle - izakaya: teba saki specialist, great rare duck breast, fried halibut
                                                2117 - Sawtelle - Euro with Japanese twist - affordable gourmet, good prix fixe lunch. better than:
                                                Sawtelle Kitchen - Sawtelle - fusiony: where white guys take their Asian girlfriends for "cute dinner".
                                                Urusawa - old Ginza Sushi Co spot in BH - for the rarified dining journey. $250/head before drinks tax or tip. Go during fugu season.
                                                Blue Marlin - Sawtelle- good curries and pastas done al dente. Uni and spinach spaghetti is kind of unique. Lunch specials.
                                                Kiriko - good westside sushi. Has good home made ice cream. Black sesame, ginger, red bean. Yum! Chef/owner can get stressed.
                                                Yokohama Shokusu - next to Yokohama Ramen in westside - konnyaku and beef tendon soup. Feels like you're in someone’s living room. Homestyle dishes you don’t often find in LA. For some reason no one knows this place.
                                                Umenohana - Beverly Hills - artisinal high end tofu tasting menu for foodies.
                                                1000 cranes - in the New Otani in Jtown - high end tempura bar. Pricey but worth it! Overlooks roof garden.
                                                kokekokko: Little Tokyo: grilled chicken in all its glory. No longer serves chicken sashimi which I had in Tokyo last year.
                                                R-23 – Little Tokyo near Sci-Arc - designer sushi on nice ceramics. Sit on cardboard chairs in a brick loft space. Started by people who did Nishimura and Hump.

                                                Mexican:
                                                El Taurino - Hoover and Olympic - tacos! al pastor! lengua!
                                                Tacos Baja Ensenada - East LA - best fried baja style fish tacos, shrimp too. 99cent Wednesday taco special
                                                Ciros - ELA - flautas or taquitos (overrated) free fresh guac but old Mexican-American history. Across the street from Mexican-American institution El Tepayac, home of the Hollenbeck burrito.
                                                La China Poblana- cemitas sandwiches (lighter bread than a torta) milanesa with avocado and panela cheese. From a truck in a parking lot.
                                                La Serenata de Garibaldi - ELA - where white people go for gourmet Mexican. Fish with delicate sauces.
                                                Babita - San Gabriel - the other gourmet Mexican joint. Many regions, shrimp tampolobampo - spicy!
                                                Large market - ELA - mariachi mariachi mariachi! Upstairs, dueling mariachi compete for your attention in this mexican dim sum-sized restaurant. Near Evergreen Cemetery on E 1st street and Lorena. Food upstairs so-so, just snack on corn with chile and mayonaise, and other vendor snacks
                                                La Flor de Yucatan - Hoover north of 10 - Yucatecan -best cochinita pibil in town, only on weekends. Otherwise its a bakery. Kibi meatballs, salbutos etc. Much tastier than Chichen Itza at the Mercado la Paloma. Yyucatecan cuisine has Moroccan influence so the cooking style is very different from most other regional Mexican cuisines)
                                                La Parilla - Silverlake and ELA - grilled meats - stone bowl of meat, cactus and cheese and beer deal. Good homemade guac.
                                                Birrieria Chalio - ELA - birria - get your goat on. Michoacano style!
                                                Guelaguetza - Ktown and Westside – everybody’s favorite Oaxacan joint. Moles. Personally not too into it.
                                                Jalisco style, Sinaloan, de Efe style, etc -- still looking.
                                                Mama’s Hot Tamales Cafe - Pico Union - tamale collective! Right next to Langers where you must try the pastrami. See below!
                                                Juanito's - ELA - artisinally crafted tamales. They sell out of certain ones. Call ahead.
                                                La Fonda - Macarthur Park - only for margaritas and mariachi. Food is whatever.

                                                Pupusas - Salvadorean - all over town, try Texis, or in the Grand Central Market

                                                Cubano sandwiches at Cafe Tropical in Silverlake (fresh juices and overbrewed strong coffee), Porto’s in Glendale (great baked goods, coffee and cheap) and floral bakery in Atwater (homemade ice cream with exotic fruit flavors). Garlic chicken at Versailles is overrated but cheap.

                                                Chinese - all 10 minutes east of downtown in either San Gabriel, Monterey Park or Rosemead
                                                Important note: when eating chinese food - make sure health rating is b or lower. If it has A, they’re not "keepring it reer."
                                                Sea Harbor Seafood - best dim sum in town - fancier than most old school joints. No carts.
                                                Dai Ho - best Taiwanese style beef noodle soup, cold appetizers
                                                Chung King - authentic Sichuanese
                                                Best Szechuan - just up the street. - ask to order off of Chinese menu
                                                Ma Lan - hand pulled noodles. Get the chicken and leeks with fat tagliatelle style noodles - like a Uyghur dish.
                                                Heavy Noodling - dao shao mian (knife cut noodles) hearty!
                                                Din Tai Fung - Taiwanese style xiao long bao (soup dumplings - a bit pricey and more delicate, some say less flavorful)
                                                Focus Plaza - aka: the Great Mall of China. Eat anywhere in here. Del Mar and Valley. Shanghainese on second floor, Islamic Chinese, Ay-Chung second floor for Taiwanese snacks
                                                Savoy - Hong Kong cafe style - everyone gets the Hainan chicken rice. Not to Singapore standards but good. Young scene
                                                Phoenix Bakery - Chinese desserts - puddings, warm porrigey desserts, melon delight
                                                Healthy Dessert - mango in birdnest, sago, cocunut sorbet and mango ice cream permutations
                                                Tung Lai Shun - Islamic Chinese. Baked sesame bread. Lamb! Yum.
                                                Green Village in the Focus Plaza. Shanghainese. Xiao long bao, san jian bao, braised fish, sweet savory brown sauces, lions head meatballs.
                                                Yung Ho Tou Chiang - dou jiang (soy milk soup for breakfast) -I like salty but can get sweet too. Ggood shao bing you tiao (oil stick-fried crullers wrapped in sesame bread that you dip)
                                                Luscious Dumplings or Dumpling Master. Many forms of jiao zi
                                                Hua’s Garden - Yunnanese food. Guo qiao mian - crossing bridge noodles and other dishes.

                                                Vietnamese:
                                                Golden Deli - Vietnamese snack foods - pho, bun, good cha gio (fried spring rolls)
                                                Phong Dinh - home of the famous baked cat fish (enough for three). Lots of crazy game meats too. Goat ribs. Fox! Venison!
                                                Lee's Baguette - grand progenitor of the banh mi wars.
                                                Nga Trang - formery Brodard Two of orange county fame - good summer rolls with little crispy crullers in the middle. I like the bun Hanoi, different types of grilled pork with Vietnamese herbs to wrap
                                                Pho 79 - not the best but not bad. Downtown la. Check the large George Nelson lamps. I tried to buy them once but they said they were rare Japanese antiques. I didnt want to burst their bubble.
                                                For real good Vietnamese go to Bolsa/Westminster in the OC

                                                Burmese:
                                                Golden Triangle - Whittier - mohinga (fish stew), onokowswe (coconut chicken noodle soup), lepet thoke (tea leaf salad)

                                                Indian:
                                                Udupi Palace - Artesia - southern Indian. Veggie. Good dosas the size of garbage can lids, good everything actually
                                                Woodlands - Artesia - similar to above
                                                Shan - Artesia - Muslim Indian - meat (weekend buffet)
                                                Surati Farsan - large selection of chaats, around the corner from Udupi. Just ask anyone. Pani puri (like a dorito 3d that you crack and stuff with yoghurty potatoes and veggies then dunk into a tangy cold soup. Crunchy, soft, creamy, sour all at once!)
                                                Bombay Cafe - Westside gourmet style Indian. Tasty but pricey!
                                                India Sweets and Spices: Westside and Atwater Village. Veggie Indian fast food that is completely passable although not particularly fine. Westside joint is next to Museum of Jurassic Technology which is definitely worth a visit! Curator/creator won the Macarthur Prize a few years back.
                                                Ambala Dhaba on Westwood Blvd. authentic non-veg Indian food. homemade kulfi ice cream


                                                Persian:
                                                Shahrzad Restaurant - good home made breads, meze, lamb chops.
                                                Lots of Persian on Westwood Blvd.
                                                Rose Market - on Westwood Blvd south of Santa Monica- homemade Persian ice cream - rose water, pistachio, served on little wafers and those little white noodle things and red sweet syrup if you want it.
                                                Mashti Malones - similar to above but in Hollywood.

                                                Armenian:
                                                Near Thai Town
                                                Caroussel - Glendale and Little Armenia - very tasty meze. Stick to these. Glendale spot is more elegant and tastier.
                                                Mandaloun - elegant Lebanese-Armenian. Weekends have set menu dinner with live band.
                                                Sahag’s Basturma - ask Sahag or his wife for a taste of his basturma. Like a super powerful beef prosciutto cold cut. Also make good homemade veal sausages with pinenuts and Armenian beef spicy sausage called soujouk. He can make these into sandwiches. Buy a bottle of pomegranate juice too! Tell him the bearded Chinese kid sent you!
                                                If you like sausage, check out the merguez sausage at Hadar Orthodox Kosher Meat on Fairfax.
                                                Arax Bakery - taste the lahmajune and maenesh (sort of mini pizza like things with lots of mediterranean herbs) fresh out of the oven. Can toast in a toaster oven too. Good snacks.

                                                Thai:
                                                Wat Thai - Thai temple North Hollywood - weekend food stalls just like Bangkok! Good som tum (papaya salad), grilled meats, coconut desserts. Near the 170 and 5 freeways
                                                Ruen Pair - open to 3am. Good food all around. Poo dong (raw marinated crab with garlic, lime and chili) noodles
                                                Palm Thai - only go for Thai Elvis. Food is okay.
                                                Thailand Plaza second floor restaurant - large place good for big groups. Thai singers and good food. Have that spicy sour and salty soup with omelette. Forgot its name but its not easily found in other restaurants that I've found. Famous Thai singers sing here)
                                                Kruang Tedd - go after 11pm and drink beers and rock out to Thai music with college kids. very fun! Can also stop into Jumbo’s Clown Room (ghetto strip club where Courtney Love used to dance) if you get bored.
                                                Sapp Coffeeshop - closes early but it feels a lot like Bangkok. Lots of Bangkok-style Thai-Chinese dishes.
                                                Renu Nakorn - Norwalk - supposed to be good, particularly for esarn food (near Laos) never went cuz its so close to Artesia Indian restaurants.
                                                Sompun - Silverlake - mainly for white hipsters but they have khao soi. The famous chiang mai creamy coconut curry noodle soup
                                                note: if you get an in - many of the joints in Thai town will serve you booze til 5am while you listen to people sing maw lam or look toong music (Thai country music)

                                                Peruvian:
                                                Mario’s: Hollywood - the joint that everyone knows about. Fried with fried. Heavy but tasty...run by Chinese Peruvians. Decent ambiance...
                                                Inti: if Mario’s is too packed. Zero ambience...
                                                Pollo a la Brasa: Ktown - rotisserie chicken grilled with wood. Best taken away.

                                                Brazilian:
                                                Cafe Brasil: Westside - byob laid back joint with grilled meats and tasty apps near:
                                                Zabumba: live samba band and turns into dancing after dinner.

                                                Greek:
                                                Papa Christo’s on Normandie and Pico. Go on a Sunday when people from the orthodox church across the street pile in. Good market for Mediterranean goods too. Cheap lamb chops! In the speakeasy district of South Koreatown. Check out the club next door "Catch 22." Wonder what goes on in there...

                                                Cambodian:
                                                Have yet to check out the Cambodian scene in Little Phnom Phen in Long Beach.
                                                Chhom Nimol, the famous classically trained singer who also sings with dengue fever sings at Dragon House. hear the food isn’t good though.
                                                I hear New Paradise and Hak Heang are good.

                                                Hamburgers:
                                                In n Out - everywhere - double double animal style protein style. Fries well done animal style.
                                                Apple Pan - Westside- old school burgers. Water in paper cones, guys pour ketchup for you with a seasoned flip of the wrist
                                                Cassell’s - old school foodie burger favorite in the heart of Ktown across the street from Tang Song Sah. Home made mayo. Crazy homemade grill contraption. Garlicky potato salad. Now owned by Koreans but still og. I actually don’t like the burgers as much as I want to. I saw a guy plop a half peach on his burger once. Respect!
                                                Pie n Burger in Pasadena. pies and burgers. Old School!
                                                Father’s Office: Santa Monica - Sang Yoon, old executive chef from Michael’s opened this joint. Decent tapas but a rockin gourmet burger if you can stand the frat boys and noise and lack of seating.
                                                Tommy's - go to the original on Rampart at 2:15 am. Kinda gross but kinda awesome.
                                                Jay’s Jayburger - I hope they will resurface. Chili cheese burger with bacon and a fried egg. Who needs flexbile arteries?
                                                see Taylor’s Steakhouse below. Under old la
                                                see McCormick and Schmick’s and Nick and Stef’s under happy hour below


                                                Korean
                                                Soot Bul Jeep - bbq ghetto style - but tasty. Mesquite wood bbq. Bring disposable clothes. And the fire gets really hot!
                                                Chosun Kalbi - fancy designer bbq. Cool architecuture with inside*inside/outside*outside concept
                                                Sa Rit Gol - good pan chan get the black cod and daikon stew! Dol sut bibimbap good too.
                                                Beverly Soon Tofu, Sokongdong Soontofu - you decide which one you like better. Beverly has better atmosphere.
                                                Olympic Kalgooksu - kalgooksu (knife cut noodles in garlic chicken broth) and mandoo, awesome wall paper
                                                Tang Song Sah - 6th and Berendo - cool po jang ma cha (korean pub) like a war bunker feel. Get the pork ribs, grilled squid, the fried battered dumbell things with the japchae noodles inside. Grilled skewers. Tofu kimchi and spicy salad.
                                                My Secret Recipe - grilled octopus and onions in gochujang sauce. Fry leftovers with rice and nori and sesame oil later. lots of cool bangladeshi markets around the corner
                                                Mandarin House – I’m a Chinese snob, but I actually don’t mind Korean-style ja jang myun. The other Korean-style Chinese food can just disappear for all I care.
                                                Han Bat - sullongtang. Hangover remedy. Best at two am.
                                                Yong Susan - fancy set course kaesang Korean. Avoid the cheapest set course.
                                                Odae San – Korean-style sushi restaurant. Lots of side dishes. Quantity over quality. Heavy on the white fish like halibut - Koreans like it chewy... chili vinegar dipping sauces. Try sea squirt. Freaky looking and tastes like the ocean! Looks like an alien.
                                                Chin Ko Gae - 8th and Berendo. Black goat stew with lots of veggies! Funky like Maceo.
                                                San - 8th + Berendo - Chinese character for mountain. Abalone porrige that tastes like a wonderful risotto and cornish game hen stuffed with sticky rice made into a soup with ginseng and garlic. good for colds.
                                                Bok - (Alvarado and James M Wood) blowfish soup. They make the leftovers into jook at the end. Lots of food!
                                                Prince Hotel - walking distance from Soot Bul Jeep. A piece of old LA. Red banquettes, oil paintings, Beefeater lamps done up ajashi style! Booze and bar snacks. Way cooler than HMS Bounty.
                                                Chapman Market - Sixth and Alexandria - for expensive mediocre coffee, booze and a procession of leased BMW's and the hot town girls that love the guys that drive those cars.
                                                The Corner Place restaurant : famous for Korean white somen noodles with the sour mool kimchi soup base. Inexpensive bbq too.

                                                Gourmet:
                                                A.O.C - Suzanne Goins newest. Wines by the glass, charcuterie, cheeses. Brought the small plates craze to LA. Mediterranean.
                                                Sona - David and Michelle Myers. High concept. Very high. Tastes good? You decide. Seared scallop in tomato water drizzled with argon oil. That kind of shit.
                                                Angelini Osteria - solid food. A bit cramped. Good pasta primis and sea salt encrusted baked branzini. Gino Angelini just won a James Beard Award this year. Good italian wines. Barolo!
                                                Spago Beverly Hills - Wolfgang himself gave me a handshake!
                                                Patina - heard its gone downhill since the move to the Disney Concert Hall. But you get to eat inside a Gehry bldg! Make sure you eat on someone else’s dime!
                                                Bastide: French food with California experimentalism. Deconstructed foods. Frozen shit. Crazy combinations. Love it or hate it.
                                                Capo: Santa Monica - small Italian restuarant with woodgrilled meats. Last time I ate here I saw Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Larry David, Albert Brooks, Dustin Hoffman and wives. And this joints got maybe 30 tables.

                                                Gourmet deals:
                                                Jiraffe - Santa Monica - Monday prix fixe dinner. French. Good chocolate souffle.
                                                Lucques - West Hollywood - Suzanne Goins original spot, 35 dollar 3-course prix fixe on Sunday. Good to share at the bar with a glass of wine.
                                                Josie - Wednesday market dinner prix fixe. 30 dollar 3 course. Only until they sell out.

                                                Happy Hours:
                                                Nick and Stef’s - Joachim Splichal’s steak house downtown. Good burger and aged steaks.
                                                Ciudad - mojitos and finger foods downtown. Mary Sue Milliken and Susan Feniger of Border Grill fame
                                                McCormick and Schmicks - not a bad burger for 2 bucks! The Beverly Hills spot feels like and is lit like Vegas.

                                                Old LA:
                                                Phillippe’s or Coles PE Buffet. both claim to have invented the French dip at the same time. Old school! You decide. Ask to get the sandwiches double dipped. Lamb sandwich is good but sometimes is really fatty.
                                                Clifton’s Cafeteria - decent cafeteria food (think mac and cheese) check the upstairs, the chapel. way too much kitsch to take in!
                                                Uncle John’s Ham and Eggs - think Blade Runner noir. Chinese guys cooking diner food in a shotgun cafeteria. Next to Golden Gopher. Pork chop rice or ham and eggs or omlette with Chinese chilis. Inadvertant ghetto fusion.
                                                The Pantry - Dick Riordan’s family restaurant. Never closed. So-so diner food.
                                                Grand Central Market downtown. Wander and nibble. Good juice bar and tasty pupusas.
                                                Hank’s Bar in the Hotel Stillwell near Staples Center. Good dive bar with mirrors and mannequins. 'Nuff said.
                                                Langer’s Deli - do yourself a favor and have a pastrami here. Best in the world. Pay attention to the bread. Hand-carved pastrami. This place is a one trick pony so stick to the pastrami. I ate here and flew to New York the next day and ate at Katz's and Second Avenue. This place is the best. Al Langer rocks! Oh yeah, good noodle kuegel too.
                                                Taylor’s Steak House - Ktown - steaks, chopped steak burger, Molly salad. Old school LA stuck in a time warp in current Ktown and Little Central America. Hear the culotte isn’t very good. Doesn’t that mean panties in French? Still has old ladies with blue hair eating here. Reasonably priced too.
                                                Soda Jerks - Pasadena – old-fashioned soda fountain and they serve Fosselman’s ice cream!


                                                Interesting Cultural Experiences One Must Check Out:
                                                Lowenbrau Keller - Silverlake adjacent - craziest visual feast of a restaurant in town. Good German food too! Opened by Billy Wilder’s prop master and it shows. If not for food, just come and have a beer and wander around the restaurant. Would take weeks to soak in the stuff in here. Run by two old women.

                                                Babe and Ricky’s Inn - Leimert Park. 5 dollars gets you a show with Micky Champion, the best 70 year-old mike-less blues singer in the world and a soul food dinner. Trick is the food isn’t served till 11pm. Mondays. She also sings downtown by Jtown on Sunday nights.

                                                Prayer Assembly of God - weekend bbq at a black church on El Segundo and Avalon. Smokey but sometimes dry bbq.
                                                Also try Phillip’s BBQ on Crenshaw. Take away.

                                                Quality Seafood - Redondo Pier - benches, cheap pitchers, 20 types of oysters in salt water tanks. Ccrab and live uni etc.

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                                                1. re: SweetSioux

                                                  A slighty more conmprehensible version --

                                                  David’s (modernist) chow list:

                                                  JAPANESE:
                                                  Gaja - Torrance - okonomiyaki/monjayaki restaurant (postwar Japanese pancake osaka style/Tokyo style - more watery) you make it on a grill on your table. The monjayaki is like cabbage burm containing a flour flood!

                                                  Sushi-Gen - Jtown - high quality - good value. sashimi lunch ($10.50) and dinner specials are unbeatable (you often get lots of toro) except by

                                                  Kasen - Orange County - sushi: best sushi in socal. Very japanese. Only salariman eating there. expensive except for chirashi sushi lunch. Multiple grades of toro, uni, abalone, mirugai, hamachi and more all for $18. In a crappy minimall in Fountain Valley. I hear they discourage gai jin though have never seen it with my own eyes.

                                                  Matsuhisa: good but overrated/priced. Black cod and foie gras, exclusive tempura bar, sucky decor. Nobu just hangs out and shakes hands. Nobu in London sucks royally!

                                                  Daikokuya - Jtown - ramen - pork bone ramen only. I heard the signless glass brick spot across the street is a high end brothel!

                                                  Orochan Ramen - 3rd floor weller court. Many levels of spiciness. Eating the top levels gets your pic on the wall.

                                                  Shinsengumi - Torrance - robatayaki - screaming waiters and rock star gloved grill masters

                                                  Furaibo - Sawtelle - izakaya: teba saki specialist, great rare duck breast, fried halibut

                                                  2117 - Sawtelle - Euro with Japanese twist - affordable gourmet, good prix fixe lunch. better than:

                                                  Sawtelle Kitchen - Sawtelle - fusiony: where white guys take their Asian girlfriends for "cute dinner".

                                                  Urusawa - old Ginza Sushi Co spot in BH - for the rarified dining journey. $250/head before drinks tax or tip. Go during fugu season.

                                                  Blue Marlin - Sawtelle- good curries and pastas done al dente. Uni and spinach spaghetti is kind of unique. Lunch specials.

                                                  Kiriko - good westside sushi. Has good home made ice cream. Black sesame, ginger, red bean. Yum! Chef/owner can get stressed.

                                                  Yokohama Shokusu - next to Yokohama Ramen in westside - konnyaku and beef tendon soup. Feels like you're in someone’s living room. Homestyle dishes you don’t often find in LA. For some reason no one knows this place.

                                                  Umenohana - Beverly Hills - artisinal high end tofu tasting menu for foodies.

                                                  1000 cranes - in the New Otani in Jtown - high end tempura bar. Pricey but worth it! Overlooks roof garden.

                                                  kokekokko: Little Tokyo: grilled chicken in all its glory. No longer serves chicken sashimi which I had in Tokyo last year.

                                                  R-23 – Little Tokyo near Sci-Arc - designer sushi on nice ceramics. Sit on cardboard chairs in a brick loft space. Started by people who did Nishimura and Hump.

                                                  MEXICAN:

                                                  El Taurino - Hoover and Olympic - tacos! al pastor! lengua!
                                                  Tacos Baja Ensenada - East LA - best fried baja style fish tacos, shrimp too. 99cent Wednesday taco special

                                                  Ciros - ELA - flautas or taquitos (overrated) free fresh guac but old Mexican-American history. Across the street from Mexican-American institution El Tepayac, home of the Hollenbeck burrito.

                                                  La China Poblana- cemitas sandwiches (lighter bread than a torta) milanesa with avocado and panela cheese. From a truck in a parking lot.

                                                  La Serenata de Garibaldi - ELA - where white people go for gourmet Mexican. Fish with delicate sauces.

                                                  Babita - San Gabriel - the other gourmet Mexican joint. Many regions, shrimp tampolobampo - spicy!

                                                  Large market - ELA - mariachi mariachi mariachi! Upstairs, dueling mariachi compete for your attention in this mexican dim sum-sized restaurant. Near Evergreen Cemetery on E 1st street and Lorena. Food upstairs so-so, just snack on corn with chile and mayonaise, and other vendor snacks

                                                  La Flor de Yucatan - Hoover north of 10 - Yucatecan -best cochinita pibil in town, only on weekends. Otherwise its a bakery. Kibi meatballs, salbutos etc. Much tastier than Chichen Itza at the Mercado la Paloma. Yyucatecan cuisine has Moroccan influence so the cooking style is very different from most other regional Mexican cuisines)

                                                  La Parilla - Silverlake and ELA - grilled meats - stone bowl of meat, cactus and cheese and beer deal. Good homemade guac.

                                                  Birrieria Chalio - ELA - birria - get your goat on. Michoacano style!

                                                  Guelaguetza - Ktown and Westside – everybody’s favorite Oaxacan joint.
                                                  Moles. Personally not too into it.

                                                  Jalisco style, Sinaloan, de Efe style, etc -- still looking.

                                                  Mama’s Hot Tamales Cafe - Pico Union - tamale collective! Right next to Langers where you must try the pastrami. See below!

                                                  Juanito's - ELA - artisinally crafted tamales. They sell out of certain ones. Call ahead.

                                                  La Fonda - Macarthur Park - only for margaritas and mariachi. Food is whatever.

                                                  Pupusas - Salvadorean - all over town, try Texis, or in the Grand Central Market

                                                  Cubano sandwiches at Cafe Tropical in Silverlake (fresh juices and overbrewed strong coffee), Porto’s in Glendale (great baked goods, coffee and cheap) and floral bakery in Atwater (homemade ice cream with exotic fruit flavors). Garlic chicken at Versailles is overrated but cheap.

                                                  CHINESE - all 10 minutes east of downtown in either San Gabriel, Monterey Park or Rosemead

                                                  Important note: when eating chinese food - make sure health rating is b or lower. If it has A, they’re not "keepring it reer."

                                                  Sea Harbor Seafood - best dim sum in town - fancier than most old school joints. No carts.

                                                  Dai Ho - best Taiwanese style beef noodle soup, cold appetizers
                                                  Chung King - authentic Sichuanese

                                                  Best Szechuan - just up the street. - ask to order off of Chinese menu

                                                  Ma Lan - hand pulled noodles. Get the chicken and leeks with fat tagliatelle style noodles - like a Uyghur dish.

                                                  Heavy Noodling - dao shao mian (knife cut noodles) hearty!

                                                  Din Tai Fung - Taiwanese style xiao long bao (soup dumplings - a bit pricey and more delicate, some say less flavorful)

                                                  Focus Plaza - aka: the Great Mall of China. Eat anywhere in here. Del Mar and Valley. Shanghainese on second floor, Islamic Chinese, Ay-Chung second floor for Taiwanese snacks

                                                  Savoy - Hong Kong cafe style - everyone gets the Hainan chicken rice. Not to Singapore standards but good. Young scene

                                                  Phoenix Bakery - Chinese desserts - puddings, warm porrigey desserts, melon delight

                                                  Healthy Dessert - mango in birdnest, sago, cocunut sorbet and mango ice cream permutations

                                                  Tung Lai Shun - Islamic Chinese. Baked sesame bread. Lamb! Yum.
                                                  Green Village in the Focus Plaza. Shanghainese. Xiao long bao, san jian bao, braised fish, sweet savory brown sauces, lions head meatballs.

                                                  Yung Ho Tou Chiang - dou jiang (soy milk soup for breakfast) -I like salty but can get sweet too. Ggood shao bing you tiao (oil stick-fried crullers wrapped in sesame bread that you dip)
                                                  Luscious Dumplings or Dumpling Master. Many forms of jiao zi

                                                  Hua’s Garden - Yunnanese food. Guo qiao mian - crossing bridge noodles and other dishes.


                                                  VIETNAMESE:

                                                  Golden Deli - Vietnamese snack foods - pho, bun, good cha gio (fried spring rolls)

                                                  Phong Dinh - home of the famous baked cat fish (enough for three). Lots of crazy game meats too. Goat ribs. Fox! Venison!

                                                  Lee's Baguette - grand progenitor of the banh mi wars.

                                                  Nga Trang - formery Brodard Two of orange county fame - good summer rolls with little crispy crullers in the middle. I like the bun Hanoi, different types of grilled pork with Vietnamese herbs to wrap

                                                  Pho 79 - not the best but not bad. Downtown la. Check the large George Nelson lamps. I tried to buy them once but they said they were rare Japanese antiques. I didnt want to burst their bubble.
                                                  For real good Vietnamese go to Bolsa/Westminster in the OC

                                                  BURMESE:

                                                  Golden Triangle - Whittier - mohinga (fish stew), onokowswe (coconut chicken noodle soup), lepet thoke (tea leaf salad)

                                                  INDIAN:

                                                  Udupi Palace - Artesia - southern Indian. Veggie. Good dosas the size of garbage can lids, good everything actually

                                                  Woodlands - Artesia - similar to above

                                                  Shan - Artesia - Muslim Indian - meat (weekend buffet)

                                                  Surati Farsan - large selection of chaats, around the corner from Udupi. Just ask anyone. Pani puri (like a dorito 3d that you crack and stuff with yoghurty potatoes and veggies then dunk into a tangy cold soup. Crunchy, soft, creamy, sour all at once!)

                                                  Bombay Cafe - Westside gourmet style Indian. Tasty but pricey!

                                                  India Sweets and Spices: Westside and Atwater Village. Veggie Indian fast food that is completely passable although not particularly fine. Westside joint is next to Museum of Jurassic Technology which is definitely worth a visit! Curator/creator won the Macarthur Prize a few years back.

                                                  Ambala Dhaba on Westwood Blvd. authentic non-veg Indian food. homemade kulfi ice cream


                                                  PERSIAN:

                                                  Shahrzad Restaurant - good home made breads, meze, lamb chops.

                                                  Lots of Persian on Westwood Blvd.

                                                  Rose Market - on Westwood Blvd south of Santa Monica- homemade Persian ice cream - rose water, pistachio, served on little wafers and those little white noodle things and red sweet syrup if you want it.

                                                  Mashti Malones - similar to above but in Hollywood.

                                                  ARMENIAN:

                                                  Near Thai Town
                                                  Caroussel - Glendale and Little Armenia - very tasty meze. Stick to these. Glendale spot is more elegant and tastier.

                                                  Mandaloun - elegant Lebanese-Armenian. Weekends have set menu dinner with live band.

                                                  Sahag’s Basturma - ask Sahag or his wife for a taste of his basturma. Like a super powerful beef prosciutto cold cut. Also make good homemade veal sausages with pinenuts and Armenian beef spicy sausage called soujouk. He can make these into sandwiches. Buy a bottle of pomegranate juice too! Tell him the bearded Chinese kid sent you!

                                                  If you like sausage, check out the merguez sausage at Hadar Orthodox Kosher Meat on Fairfax.

                                                  Arax Bakery - taste the lahmajune and maenesh (sort of mini pizza like things with lots of mediterranean herbs) fresh out of the oven. Can toast in a toaster oven too. Good snacks.

                                                  THAI:

                                                  Wat Thai - Thai temple North Hollywood - weekend food stalls just like Bangkok! Good som tum (papaya salad), grilled meats, coconut desserts. Near the 170 and 5 freeways

                                                  Ruen Pair - open to 3am. Good food all around. Poo dong (raw marinated crab with garlic, lime and chili) noodles

                                                  Palm Thai - only go for Thai Elvis. Food is okay.

                                                  Thailand Plaza second floor restaurant - large place good for big groups. Thai singers and good food. Have that spicy sour and salty soup with omelette. Forgot its name but its not easily found in other restaurants that I've found. Famous Thai singers sing here)

                                                  Kruang Tedd - go after 11pm and drink beers and rock out to Thai music with college kids. very fun! Can also stop into Jumbo’s Clown Room (ghetto strip club where Courtney Love used to dance) if you get bored.

                                                  Sapp Coffeeshop - closes early but it feels a lot like Bangkok. Lots of Bangkok-style Thai-Chinese dishes.

                                                  Renu Nakorn - Norwalk - supposed to be good, particularly for esarn food (near Laos) never went cuz its so close to Artesia Indian restaurants.

                                                  Sompun - Silverlake - mainly for white hipsters but they have khao soi. The famous chiang mai creamy coconut curry noodle soup

                                                  note: if you get an in - many of the joints in Thai town will serve you booze til 5am while you listen to people sing maw lam or look toong music (Thai country music)

                                                  PERUVIAN:

                                                  Mario’s: Hollywood - the joint that everyone knows about. Fried with fried. Heavy but tasty...run by Chinese Peruvians. Decent ambiance...

                                                  Inti: if Mario’s is too packed. Zero ambience...

                                                  Pollo a la Brasa: Ktown - rotisserie chicken grilled with wood. Best taken away.

                                                  BRAZILIAN:

                                                  Cafe Brasil: Westside - byob laid back joint with grilled meats and tasty apps near:

                                                  Zabumba: live samba band and turns into dancing after dinner.

                                                  GREEK:

                                                  Papa Christo’s on Normandie and Pico. Go on a Sunday when people from the orthodox church across the street pile in. Good market for Mediterranean goods too. Cheap lamb chops! In the speakeasy district of South Koreatown. Check out the club next door "Catch 22." Wonder what goes on in there...

                                                  CAMBODIAN:

                                                  Have yet to check out the Cambodian scene in Little Phnom Phen in Long Beach.
                                                  Chhom Nimol, the famous classically trained singer who also sings with dengue fever sings at Dragon House. hear the food isn’t good though.
                                                  I hear New Paradise and Hak Heang are good.

                                                  HAMBURGERS:

                                                  In n Out - everywhere - double double animal style protein style. Fries well done animal style.

                                                  Apple Pan - Westside- old school burgers. Water in paper cones, guys pour ketchup for you with a seasoned flip of the wrist

                                                  Cassell’s - old school foodie burger favorite in the heart of Ktown across the street from Tang Song Sah. Home made mayo. Crazy homemade grill contraption. Garlicky potato salad. Now owned by Koreans but still og. I actually don’t like the burgers as much as I want to. I saw a guy plop a half peach on his burger once. Respect!

                                                  Pie n Burger in Pasadena. pies and burgers. Old School!

                                                  Father’s Office: Santa Monica - Sang Yoon, old executive chef from Michael’s opened this joint. Decent tapas but a rockin gourmet burger if you can stand the frat boys and noise and lack of seating.

                                                  Tommy's - go to the original on Rampart at 2:15 am. Kinda gross but kinda awesome.

                                                  Jay’s Jayburger - I hope they will resurface. Chili cheese burger with bacon and a fried egg. Who needs flexbile arteries?

                                                  see Taylor’s Steakhouse below. Under old la

                                                  see McCormick and Schmick’s and Nick and Stef’s under happy hour below


                                                  KOREAN

                                                  Soot Bul Jeep - bbq ghetto style - but tasty. Mesquite wood bbq. Bring disposable clothes. And the fire gets really hot!

                                                  Chosun Kalbi - fancy designer bbq. Cool architecuture with inside*inside/outside*outside concept

                                                  Sa Rit Gol - good pan chan get the black cod and daikon stew! Dol sut bibimbap good too.

                                                  Beverly Soon Tofu, Sokongdong Soontofu - you decide which one you like better. Beverly has better atmosphere.

                                                  Olympic Kalgooksu - kalgooksu (knife cut noodles in garlic chicken broth) and mandoo, awesome wall paper

                                                  Tang Song Sah - 6th and Berendo - cool po jang ma cha (korean pub) like a war bunker feel. Get the pork ribs, grilled squid, the fried battered dumbell things with the japchae noodles inside. Grilled skewers. Tofu kimchi and spicy salad.

                                                  My Secret Recipe - grilled octopus and onions in gochujang sauce. Fry leftovers with rice and nori and sesame oil later. lots of cool bangladeshi markets around the corner

                                                  Mandarin House – I’m a Chinese snob, but I actually don’t mind Korean-style ja jang myun. The other Korean-style Chinese food can just disappear for all I care.

                                                  Han Bat - sullongtang. Hangover remedy. Best at two am.

                                                  Yong Susan - fancy set course kaesang Korean. Avoid the cheapest set course.

                                                  Odae San – Korean-style sushi restaurant. Lots of side dishes. Quantity over quality. Heavy on the white fish like halibut - Koreans like it chewy... chili vinegar dipping sauces. Try sea squirt. Freaky looking and tastes like the ocean! Looks like an alien.

                                                  Chin Ko Gae - 8th and Berendo. Black goat stew with lots of veggies! Funky like Maceo.

                                                  San - 8th + Berendo - Chinese character for mountain. Abalone porrige that tastes like a wonderful risotto and cornish game hen stuffed with sticky rice made into a soup with ginseng and garlic. good for colds.

                                                  Bok - (Alvarado and James M Wood) blowfish soup. They make the leftovers into jook at the end. Lots of food!

                                                  Prince Hotel - walking distance from Soot Bul Jeep. A piece of old LA. Red banquettes, oil paintings, Beefeater lamps done up ajashi style! Booze and bar snacks. Way cooler than HMS Bounty.

                                                  Chapman Market - Sixth and Alexandria - for expensive mediocre coffee, booze and a procession of leased BMW's and the hot town girls that love the guys that drive those cars.

                                                  The Corner Place restaurant : famous for Korean white somen noodles with the sour mool kimchi soup base. Inexpensive bbq too.

                                                  GOURMET:

                                                  A.O.C - Suzanne Goins newest. Wines by the glass, charcuterie, cheeses. Brought the small plates craze to LA. Mediterranean.

                                                  Sona - David and Michelle Myers. High concept. Very high. Tastes good? You decide. Seared scallop in tomato water drizzled with argon oil. That kind of shit.

                                                  Angelini Osteria - solid food. A bit cramped. Good pasta primis and sea salt encrusted baked branzini. Gino Angelini just won a James Beard Award this year. Good italian wines. Barolo!

                                                  Spago Beverly Hills - Wolfgang himself gave me a handshake!

                                                  Patina - heard its gone downhill since the move to the Disney Concert Hall. But you get to eat inside a Gehry bldg! Make sure you eat on someone else’s dime!

                                                  Bastide: French food with California experimentalism. Deconstructed foods. Frozen shit. Crazy combinations. Love it or hate it.

                                                  Capo: Santa Monica - small Italian restuarant with woodgrilled meats. Last time I ate here I saw Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks, Larry David, Albert Brooks, Dustin Hoffman and wives. And this joints got maybe 30 tables.

                                                  GOURMET DEALS:

                                                  Jiraffe - Santa Monica - Monday prix fixe dinner. French. Good chocolate souffle.

                                                  Lucques - West Hollywood - Suzanne Goins original spot, 35 dollar 3-course prix fixe on Sunday. Good to share at the bar with a glass of wine.

                                                  Josie - Wednesday market dinner prix fixe. 30 dollar 3 course. Only until they sell out.

                                                  HAPPY HOURS:

                                                  Nick and Stef’s - Joachim Splichal’s steak house downtown. Good burger and aged steaks.

                                                  Ciudad - mojitos and finger foods downtown. Mary Sue Milliken and Susan Feniger of Border Grill fame

                                                  McCormick and Schmicks - not a bad burger for 2 bucks! The Beverly Hills spot feels like and is lit like Vegas.

                                                  OLD LA:

                                                  Phillippe’s or Coles PE Buffet. both claim to have invented the French dip at the same time. Old school! You decide. Ask to get the sandwiches double dipped. Lamb sandwich is good but sometimes is really fatty.

                                                  Clifton’s Cafeteria - decent cafeteria food (think mac and cheese) check the upstairs, the chapel. way too much kitsch to take in!

                                                  Uncle John’s Ham and Eggs - think Blade Runner noir. Chinese guys cooking diner food in a shotgun cafeteria. Next to Golden Gopher. Pork chop rice or ham and eggs or omlette with Chinese chilis. Inadvertant ghetto fusion.

                                                  The Pantry - Dick Riordan’s family restaurant. Never closed. So-so diner food.

                                                  Grand Central Market downtown. Wander and nibble. Good juice bar and tasty pupusas.

                                                  Hank’s Bar in the Hotel Stillwell near Staples Center. Good dive bar with mirrors and mannequins. 'Nuff said.

                                                  Langer’s Deli - do yourself a favor and have a pastrami here. Best in the world. Pay attention to the bread. Hand-carved pastrami. This place is a one trick pony so stick to the pastrami. I ate here and flew to New York the next day and ate at Katz's and Second Avenue. This place is the best. Al Langer rocks! Oh yeah, good noodle kuegel too.

                                                  Taylor’s Steak House - Ktown - steaks, chopped steak burger, Molly salad. Old school LA stuck in a time warp in current Ktown and Little Central America. Hear the culotte isn’t very good. Doesn’t that mean panties in French? Still has old ladies with blue hair eating here. Reasonably priced too.

                                                  Soda Jerks - Pasadena – old-fashioned soda fountain and they serve Fosselman’s ice cream!


                                                  Interesting Cultural Experiences One Must Check Out:

                                                  Lowenbrau Keller - Silverlake adjacent - craziest visual feast of a restaurant in town. Good German food too! Opened by Billy Wilder’s prop master and it shows. If not for food, just come and have a beer and wander around the restaurant. Would take weeks to soak in the stuff in here. Run by two old women.

                                                  Babe and Ricky’s Inn - Leimert Park. 5 dollars gets you a show with Micky Champion, the best 70 year-old mike-less blues singer in the world and a soul food dinner. Trick is the food isn’t served till 11pm. Mondays. She also sings downtown by Jtown on Sunday nights.

                                                  Prayer Assembly of God - weekend bbq at a black church on El Segundo and Avalon. Smokey but sometimes dry bbq.

                                                  Also try Phillip’s BBQ on Crenshaw. Take away.

                                                  Quality Seafood - Redondo Pier - benches, cheap pitchers, 20 types of oysters in salt water tanks. Ccrab and live uni etc.

                                                2. Incredible list. How wonderful it would be if you lived in Orange County. I am envious here in OC for your wonderful list. It would be so great to have you here to create your very thoughtful list and obviously chowhound time for everyone. I have printed your list so that if ever in LA county I will have it. Thank you. A small hint and maybe not practical for you but Orange County is a great place to live, perhaps not exactly LA food wise, but you would be gratefully treasured here by all of us in OC if you ever moved for your thoughtful help to all of us.

                                                  1. Just piling on to thank you Modernist for a great list, and to SweetSioux for the translation!

                                                    1. I just read through this nice list and was glad to see Yokohama Shokutsu listed. Unfortunately this restaurant will be changing ownership soon. They will do a hand-off between old and new owners, but Master (as the current owner is known) will definitely be missed.

                                                      He's going back to Japan for a while, and upon his return will open a new restaurant with a different theme. I expect to be there the first night.

                                                      1. They deleted my lament on this, but in reference to your mention of the paper cones at Apple Pan, they don't use them anymore.... :(

                                                        1. So kind and generous. Really enjoyed your list. Many are on my list too. Printed and laminated for my glove compartment ;) You have a great summer David.

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                                                            Shana is Hungry

                                                            I'll be returning home to L.A. in August. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

                                                          2. I just need to say this list makes me want to weep with gratitude. I will be moving to L.A. from Oakland in early August, and I have been living in fear of not having my chowhound standbys. (But am thrilled with the possibility of exploring L.A. chow). THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. You will make my food transition (which is, of course, the most important part of the move) much smoother.

                                                            And the rest of you L.A. board hounds, you will be hearing from me. Many questions will be asked.

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                                                              HungrySantaMonica

                                                              Dave, thanks for the posting and I appreciate knowing where the white guys take their asian girlfriends. I usually like my meals minus the gagging...

                                                              I will eat and be merry.

                                                              1. i tried 2117 with a friend last week and we can't even finish the dishes..it's OVER cooked, OVER salted, and not fresh at all, especially their fish of the day. It sucks..........

                                                                1. Just wanted to thank you for the incredible list of restaurants. I am a chinese food addict from Seattle and I recently had a chance to go to LA for the first time. Your list was a tourmap for us! Thank you!

                                                                  1. Have you tried Hama sushi? that ranks as the best sushi in LA for me...
                                                                    Also for Mexican...i didn't see Gardens of Taxco on your list, but that place is really good. it's on santa monica blvd. in west hollywood.

                                                                    thanks for great list of recommendations! i've been looking for a good list of restaurants.

                                                                    1. Excellent summary chowhound. I have lived in LA for three years and just about every restaurant I love is on your list. I notice there is a lot of shit in Ktown. Have you tried Arado (Wilshire/Wilton)? Or the happy pig (8th st a tad west of Ardmore)? How about Surya (Nepalese) on Melrose?

                                                                      I WAS vegetarian when I moved here, but the vegetarian food here SUCKS (transplant from Miami) so now I have caved and I eat meat occasionally (frequently). I noticed there wasn't really any Caribbean food. I agree that the Jamaican food sucks (better cooked at home), but there is a Haitian restaurant north of San Vincente on La Brea (used to be an Ethiopian/Jamaican restaurant attached to a cheap motel) that can be VERY good. I say this because it is a bit pricey for the area and it is not always consistent.

                                                                      Finally chowhound, I noticed you said culinary anthropologist. Were you serious? I majored in anthro in college and I am fascinated if there is really culinary anthropologists (with gigs that make money). Are you a food critic?

                                                                      Totally enjoyed your list. Gwan wit yo bad self bredren. Would love to hear back. Later.

                                                                      1. desperately looking for a byob spot. cheap cool eat. any ideas?

                                                                        1. in desperate search for a byob. dinner. any suggestions?

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                                                                            Andrew Stiles

                                                                            my favorite byob spot in LA:
                                                                            Allegria on Sunset!

                                                                          2. I love this post! Been to about 30% of them so far. It absolutely *is* the ultimate foodie guide. Thank you!!!

                                                                            1. this is an awesome list... update coming? is that south indian place 'udupi palace' in artesia still there?

                                                                              1. Oh - WOW!

                                                                                I think I just gained about 30 lbs. reading through all these amazing posts...thank you, all!

                                                                                And I always thought working my way up and down Valley Boulevard was a respectable goal...

                                                                                How do you'all do it -- eat in all these places and still have time to post on Chowhound?

                                                                                1. Unfortunately, Umenohana has closed.

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                                                                                  1. re: brahms

                                                                                    "Unfortunately..." -- I agree with you! I was fortunate enough to have enjoyed their tofu delights before they shut their doors. The space was gorgeous -- in a zen-ish way. Where did they go? What has become to occupy that space?

                                                                                  2. A great list that shines even over one year on, but he forgot Dino's on Pico (a bit east of Vermont).

                                                                                    Dino's might be the best meal deal in LA, $4.25 for half a grilled chicken and loads of fries drenched in a yellow, yoghurt-based sauce. With cole slaw and 3 tortillas. A truly great quick lunch.

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                                                                                    1. re: broncosaurus

                                                                                      You'll be very happy to note that he added Dinos to the new list! :)

                                                                                      --Dommy!

                                                                                      1. re: Dommy

                                                                                        Ah, it is now complete. I guess we can offically close the board now ;)

                                                                                        Btw Dommy's rec. of the hamburger at Petrelli's is to say the least intriguing, since I've long felt it was all downhill overthere ever since George took over from his bro several years back. I guess I'll have to give them another spin if such a long-time and well-regarded poster found something good thataway.

                                                                                      1. you seriously have an AMAZING taste for food.. so much wealth of knowledge!

                                                                                        1. http://www.chowhound.com/topics/313050

                                                                                          this list is slightly updated. so many more to add though!

                                                                                          1. Responding to this just so its permanently on my Chowhound list so I will remember to try all these places...