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Diddy Riese: Thumbs up or thumbs down?

sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 07:12 PM


those are my thumbs. pointing up!!

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    bulavinaka RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 07:49 PM

    Great quality/price ratio, but they're not my favorite. One thumb up.

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      sillygoosedown RE: bulavinaka Mar 2, 2010 08:12 PM

      What's your favorite ice cream cookie sandwich?

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        bulavinaka RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 09:24 PM

        My favorite ice cream cookie sandwich? I'm guilty of not having one, I guess. But my current favorite cookie is at 3 Square/Rockenwagner Bakery. Their double chocolate walnut cookie has been in my favor for a while now. You've gotta love chocolate to love this one - I mean stuff your face with handfuls of chocolate 'til the sides of your mouth are running with chocolate goo. :)

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          JBC RE: bulavinaka Mar 3, 2010 12:00 PM

          How much does the 3 Square cookie cost ?

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            bulavinaka RE: JBC Mar 3, 2010 06:37 PM

            The cookie usually costs a half-dozen Diddies - $2. But a half dozen Diddies, as great of deal as they are, just doesn't equate in the personal enjoyment points I get from one of those Double Chocolate cookies from 3 Square. :)

    2. groover808 RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 08:20 PM

      I was actually in the area awhile ago and had heard so much about them. When I first looked at the cookies from the line, they looked completely uncooked since they weren't browned at all. I agree, good price, but cookies are a bit too thick for my taste. Agree with the one thumb up for value. It does well near a student population....

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        sillygoosedown RE: groover808 Mar 2, 2010 08:23 PM

        But did you have an ice cream cookie sandwich? Obviously the cookies themselves are nothing special.

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          groover808 RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 06:20 AM

          I did, but if the cookies are nothing special, the whole thing together was just ok. I think they use Dreyer's or Breyer's, it's posted in the store.

      2. DrBruin RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 08:35 PM

        Thumbs up.

        1. Das Ubergeek RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 08:42 PM

          One thumb up, but only if you're already parked in Westwood for whatever reason. It's a nice cheap dessert, but not worth the drive even from Beverly Hills or Santa Monica unless you're doing something else in the area.

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            Dommy RE: Das Ubergeek Mar 3, 2010 12:31 AM

            Agreed... I much prefer Milk's Ice Cream Sandwiches... but that being said, I'll never say no to their cinnamon cookie sandwich with strawberry Cheesecake ice cream if offered ;D


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              TravelPath RE: Dommy Mar 4, 2010 10:35 AM

              Milk's are the best around right now...thumbs up...Diddy's I am neutral on...if I am in front of the store, sure...but it is not worth the drive or parking hassles!

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                jackattack RE: TravelPath Mar 8, 2010 12:45 PM

                Comparing Diddy's to Milk? Kinda like asking if the 99c burger at Wendy's is any good, and being told that The Counter burger is better.

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              ozhead RE: Das Ubergeek Mar 3, 2010 07:22 AM

              If I'm already parked in Westwood and I'm close enough to Diddy Riese to think about going there, I would probably walk the half-block to Stan's instead and buy a donut. Unless it were a very hot summer day, in which case I might go to D.R. for a shave ice with a scoop of vanilla ice cream under it.

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                annapurna7 RE: ozhead Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM

                I usually do both. I'll buy about a 1/2 dozen cookies from Diddy Riese to take home. walk down to Stan's, buy a peanut butter pocket and start eating it as soon as gets in my hands.

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              Aylwin RE: sillygoosedown Mar 2, 2010 08:42 PM

              If you want a cheap (price and quality) sweet treat, thumbs up I suppose.

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                bruinike RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 06:05 AM

                I wish I could love them because of the value but every time I eat them feels like wasted calories. They taste chalky with an aftertaste sadly. I went to UCLA so it was always a big disappointment. :-(

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                  cheesecake17 RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 07:32 AM

                  Thumbs up. Went there twice this summer during a trip to LA.

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                    Ogawak RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 07:54 AM

                    Certainly not the best cookies or the best ice cream, which Chowhounders tend to prize, but without question one of the very best bargains in town, which this Chowhounder also prizes. It's also a short walk from Red Mango and Stan's Donuts.

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                      taiwanesesmalleats RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 08:24 AM

                      The cookies themselves are only average but being a Bruin alumnus, I have to give it a thumbs up. I remember when it used to be just a dollar...

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                        samtron608 RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 08:34 AM

                        hmmm..thumbs up if you are a ucla student living in westwood...thumbs down for everyone else. i dont think its that special.

                        1. wienermobile RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 12:37 PM

                          How could anyone not like fresh hot cookies at $3.75 a dozen?

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                            Mattapoisett in LA RE: wienermobile Mar 3, 2010 01:07 PM

                            it is like saying no to a McD's Hamburger Yes, it is a hamburger. Yes. it is cheap, but no, I do not want it.

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                              westsidegal RE: wienermobile Mar 3, 2010 04:27 PM

                              count me as someone who doesn't like their offerings.
                              if i'm going to 'spend' those kind of calories, i want a better quality product.
                              i am more than happy to pay for a better quality product.

                              to my palate, the regular store-bought ice cream sandwich that is made by JULIA'S ORGANIC ICE CREAM which can be bought down the street at Whole Foods, is so far superior to the sugar and artificial flavor bomb that is diddy reese, i'll opt for that every time.

                              that said, i completely understand the nostalgia associated with the food one ate when in college and have my own such favorites from berkeley. . . .

                            2. wilafur RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 01:16 PM

                              not the best cookie or ice cream but awesome price/quality ratio. so thumbs up!

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                                AAQjr RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 03:00 PM

                                Thumbs up for me! It has no competition at it's price point. Plus they freeze really well. I like 'em cold nuke them and they're good as new.

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                                  sillygoosedown RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 06:50 PM

                                  You guys! At least most of you agree it's good for the price. I have the luxury of not really caring about prices except maybe for Urasawa, but still I think Diddy Riese is absolutely wonderful.

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                                    Mr Taster RE: sillygoosedown Mar 4, 2010 10:29 AM

                                    You can see by this thread how Chowhound is different from other sites.

                                    On Chowhound it doesn't matter if you're talking about ice cream sandwiches or deep fried pig's blood rice cakes http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/673421 If you've come to the Los Angeles Chowhound board, you're going to get passionate responses from people that have been here for years (many, like me, have been here for nearly a decade or more) and by and large we know what we're talking about (and if we don't, we get called out on it.)

                                    On Chowhound, if someone suggests something of middling quality, whether cheap or not, it is likely to be called out. Underbaked cookies-- supermarket ice cream-- where's the love? The passion for the food? Anyone can buy a tub of prefab cookie dough and tubs of Dreyers and slap them together to make money. Your kids could do it at home.

                                    If you want a great example of a place that offers thrift and that special gestalt that makes Chowhounds go googly eyed, look at Scoops ice cream near LACC. Nobody that's been here a long time is going to make the over the top hyperbolic Yelp-like comments akin to "SCOOPS IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!". What we will say is that the owner is amazingly passionate about the wildly creative flavors he produces (brown bread, chocolate Guinness, strawberry balsamic, salty white chocolate, for starters) and the fact that you can get an extremely generous double scoop for $1.75 just makes the deal all that much more amazing. No, it's not the best ice cream in the world. But it's made by a guy who really cares about what he's doing. and he does it for an incredibly fair price. He's not interested in assembling supermarket groceries and charging a premium for it.

                                    There is a difference, sillygoosedown. Welcome to Chowhound!

                                    Mr Taster

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                                      jackattack RE: Mr Taster Mar 5, 2010 05:02 PM

                                      I've wanted to try Scoops but have been there 3 times and they're closed. No sign on the place posting hours, or anything. So maybe the guy is passionate about his ice cream, but not about his customers.

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                                    paprkutr RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 07:10 PM

                                    I agree that the cookies are a little underdone, but for the price they make it, and when I need a large amount to take somewhere it does the job.
                                    Nobody mentioned their brownies, for five bucks a dozen they are decent and they have ones with walnuts on top

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                                      Das Ubergeek RE: paprkutr Mar 3, 2010 07:23 PM

                                      I prefer female brownies, but they're the same quality as Mrs Fields and cheaper.

                                    2. Calipoutine RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 07:31 PM

                                      down. It was fine when I was in my 20's and early 30's, before I became a "foodie" and wouldnt care about what a baked good was made with. Now, if It not butter, I dont want it. Why waste calories on inferior ingredients. I think the "ice cream" is probably frozen desert as most flavors of Dryers(aka)Edy's are these days.

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                                        sillygoosedown RE: Calipoutine Mar 3, 2010 07:55 PM

                                        If you're going to be all objective and intellectual about it, of course Diddy Riese is crap. But I think if you weren't brooding over your food you'd think an ice cream cookie sandwich from Diddy Riese was delicious.

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                                          ipsedixit RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 08:04 PM

                                          If an ice cream sandwich were the criteria, then I'd just as well opt for an It's-It Ice Cream Sandwich.

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                                            hhewitt RE: ipsedixit Mar 4, 2010 05:47 PM

                                            An It's-It is better than Diddy Riese, but you can't get the variety of It's-It in LA that you can up north. So, Diddy Riese wins on variety (which I personally prize).

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                                              Mr Taster RE: hhewitt Mar 4, 2010 05:54 PM

                                              Where can one find an It's-It in the LA area? (Near Fairfax district is a plus)

                                              Mr Taster

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                                                ipsedixit RE: Mr Taster Mar 4, 2010 07:15 PM

                                                Check local liquor stores, many have them (in singles no less as opposed to the "hat trick" that they usually come in when you buy them in supermarkets).

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                                                  monku RE: Mr Taster Mar 5, 2010 05:06 AM

                                                  It's-It....Gelsons in Silver Lake has them by the box.

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                                                  ipsedixit RE: hhewitt Mar 4, 2010 07:18 PM

                                                  By the way, what variety can you not get in LA? I've seen capp, vanilla, mint and chocolate. Are there others?

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                                                    Mr Taster RE: ipsedixit Mar 4, 2010 11:24 PM

                                                    No idea... I saw the It's-It factory during a recent trip to UCSF and came to the sudden and startling realization that I needed to try one very soon.

                                                    Mr Taster

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                                                      hhewitt RE: ipsedixit Mar 5, 2010 01:50 PM

                                                      I've only seen vanilla, but I haven't gone looking through Gelson's and sundry liquor stores. I'm glad to hear mint, cappucino, and chocolate are out there... any specific places you can remember seeing them?

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                                                        Mr Taster RE: hhewitt Mar 5, 2010 02:16 PM

                                                        OK, box of 3 are on sale at Ralph's for $2.99. (They only had the vanilla). Got a box at lunch today and tried it. Wasn't expecting the pop of cinnamon.

                                                        Overall, I thought it was fine but nothing extraordinary.... imagine cinnamon oatmeal cookie ice cream sandwich. Cookies were soft and doughy, ice cream was thin and icy, and the whole megillah was covered with a thin Klondike-bar style layer of chocolate.

                                                        I do love the history behind them, the old fashioned name and box design (it really looks like they haven't updated the design in 70 years) and the history of the sandwich. It was definitely worth trying once. I just don't think I'd go out of my way for them.

                                                        Mr Taster

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                                                          ipsedixit RE: Mr Taster Mar 5, 2010 04:47 PM

                                                          Hmm, what were you expecting? It is, after all, only an ice cream cookie sandwich, right?

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                                                    JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Mar 5, 2010 09:31 AM

                                                    So glad you mentioned It's-It, ipsedixit. I actually remember when 7-11's in San Diego carried the original.

                                                    Damn!, now you and Mr. Taster have made me want one too...

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                                                      Mr Taster RE: JThur01 Mar 5, 2010 10:11 AM

                                                      I'll make you even hungrier by providing you a link to this video...


                                                      Mr Taster

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                                                        JThur01 RE: Mr Taster Mar 5, 2010 02:27 PM

                                                        Curses!...you win this round, Taster :-)

                                                        Ahh, yes, the cinnamon oatmeal cookie. One has to admit, that in itself is a rather unique twist compared to the normal, standard ice cream sandwich exterior, and add in the fact It's-It was doing that 70 years ago.

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                                                    Calipoutine RE: sillygoosedown Mar 6, 2010 07:43 PM

                                                    and thats why food and taste is very subjective and why CH is great. We can all share our opinions. The OP asked Thumbs up or down. I said DOWN. But, there once was a day when it was an up for me. Not anymore, I used to bake from mixes too, people grow and change...... I'm just saying......

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                                                      Calipoutine RE: sillygoosedown Sep 10, 2011 08:17 AM

                                                      How is that brooding over food? I dont like "frozen dessert". I prefer premium ice cream so I wont be buying an ice cream sandwich from DR. I did bring 3 dozen cookies into my spouse's work place( police station). They were scooped up( no pun intended) in a matter of minutes. But ya know, cops will eat anything, as long as they know where it came from. LOL>

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                                                        westsidegal RE: sillygoosedown Sep 10, 2011 06:30 PM

                                                        <<if you weren't brooding over your food you'd think an ice cream cookie sandwich from Diddy Riese was delicious.>>

                                                        completely disagree with this assertion, sillygoosedown.
                                                        even the worst commercial ice cream sandwiches taste better to me.

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                                                          Peripatetic RE: westsidegal Sep 10, 2011 06:38 PM

                                                          Note that sillygoosedown is long gone, or at least has gone into lurk mode. I suspect probably the former, though.

                                                    2. GenevieveCa RE: sillygoosedown Mar 3, 2010 10:26 PM

                                                      the price is right for sure, but i can take it or leave it.
                                                      holds no interest for me.

                                                      1. liu RE: sillygoosedown Mar 4, 2010 09:32 AM

                                                        Two more thumbs waaaay UP!

                                                        I love all the nutless cookies! Oh, perhaps the chocolate chippers are a little too sweet for my tastes (it's the dough that is too sugary), but the melt-in-my-mouth factor makes them a winner! The chocolate is gooey...ooooooh!

                                                        The oatmeal raisin cookies are also good, as are the peanut butter and the cinnamon sugar and the...

                                                        I like all the choice options. I don't care for nuts in my cookies, so it works well for me.

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                                                          upstarter RE: sillygoosedown Mar 4, 2010 11:39 PM

                                                          i had it recently for the first time in 4 years. I was SO dissapointed. Even for the price, it's not worth it. The cookies are flavorless. "Freshly Baked" cookies sold at the LA art walk are my current faves, besides of course homemade cookies.

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                                                            jackattack RE: sillygoosedown Mar 5, 2010 04:57 PM

                                                            Vanilla Ice Cream Sandwich made with two warm-ish Cinnamon Sugar cookies.....yum.

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                                                              MissCast RE: sillygoosedown Mar 5, 2010 08:11 PM

                                                              They have them at the UCLA blood bank and, while not the greatest, hit the spot when you've just donated a pint.

                                                              1. peppermonkey RE: sillygoosedown Mar 8, 2010 02:58 PM

                                                                thumbs down...way down

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                                                                  LuluTheMagnificent RE: sillygoosedown Mar 8, 2010 08:03 PM

                                                                  When would be the best time to go and find easy parking? Sunday when they open? What about when they are close to closing. I want no hassle, pull up park, no pay, run-in and leave.

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                                                                    Das Ubergeek RE: LuluTheMagnificent Mar 9, 2010 07:33 AM

                                                                    Definitely not when they're close to closing. Your best bet would be Sunday morning, but be prepared even then for there not to be parking available near the shop.

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                                                                      LuluTheMagnificent RE: Das Ubergeek Mar 10, 2010 07:08 AM

                                                                      Thank you.

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                                                                        sillygoosedown RE: Das Ubergeek Mar 10, 2010 08:45 AM

                                                                        You are so right about that. I've seen the line for Diddy Riese extend all the way across the street to the UCLA campus, and all those people have to park somewhere!!

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                                                                          jjw RE: sillygoosedown Mar 10, 2010 06:06 PM

                                                                          Park??? These are UCLA students who've walked there. Look for my son in line....

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                                                                            wilafur RE: jjw Mar 11, 2010 08:49 AM

                                                                            or folks like myself that enjoy walking to westwood from west la.

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                                                                        ipsedixit RE: LuluTheMagnificent Mar 10, 2010 12:38 PM

                                                                        Just park at In N Out.

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                                                                        mdpilam RE: sillygoosedown Mar 10, 2010 09:21 AM

                                                                        FWIW, I'm not a big sweets fan, but every great once in a while, I get a hankering for an ice cream sandwich, and Diddy Riese can fill that void. The lines suck and parking in Westwood sucks, but I still think it is a good value for what you get - especially compared to Cool Haus (theirs are twice the price and smaller IIRC).

                                                                        So, I'll go one Thumbs up.

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                                                                          Robhungry1 RE: sillygoosedown Mar 11, 2010 12:29 AM

                                                                          TOO Sweet!!!!!!

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                                                                            LuluTheMagnificent RE: Robhungry1 Mar 11, 2010 03:40 AM

                                                                            no such thing!!!!

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                                                                              westsidegal RE: Robhungry1 Sep 10, 2011 06:32 PM

                                                                              <<TOO Sweet!!!!!!>>
                                                                              not ONLY too sweet, but the horrible aftertaste of lots of artificial color and the weird mouthfeel of the fat used in the cookies.. . . .

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                                                                                Calipoutine RE: westsidegal Sep 26, 2011 10:06 PM

                                                                                Walked in today and asked them what kind of fat they use. They showed me the blocks of " european butter blend( butter and margarine). Ick.

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                                                                                  AAQjr RE: Calipoutine Sep 26, 2011 11:21 PM

                                                                                  That's impressive! makes me even happier to eat them! I figured at that price there was no way they were using butter at all

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                                                                              bbmakris RE: sillygoosedown Mar 11, 2010 09:26 AM

                                                                              Being a UCLA alumni, I still love the cookies. No they are not the best quality, sometimes a bit undercooked but it tastes so good when you microwave them for a few seconds and they almost taste like they were just baked and for the price.. you can't go wrong for the price. They are sweet so I don't usually eat the whole cookie. I like the cookies over the icecream sandwich because that's just too much at once. I like the ones without nuts.. choc chip, white choc chip, oatmeal raisin and the cinnamon. I still give it a thumbs up even tho the price isn't what it used to be

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                                                                                Mr Taster RE: bbmakris Mar 11, 2010 09:54 AM

                                                                                I'm really puzzled by this phenomenon, bbmakris...

                                                                                By your own description, the cookies at Diddy Riese are "not the best quaity", underbaked, too sweet, and the price is more expensive than what you're prefer to pay for them.

                                                                                Why then do you give them your business? Why not give your money to a bakery that makes properly baked, good quality, perfectly sweetened cookies for a fair price?

                                                                                Or even better, Instead of microwaving an underbaked cookie to simulate fresh-baked, why not bake your own *actually fresh* cookies?? That's what I would do :)

                                                                                Mr Taster

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                                                                                  wilafur RE: Mr Taster Mar 11, 2010 10:37 AM

                                                                                  nostalgia for others.

                                                                                  as for myself....i think they are a-ok (i do like soft cookies) and find them to be a great bang for the buck.

                                                                                  i admittedly do not have a sweet tooth and could care less about finding the next best dessert spot, but an ice cream sandwich once in a blue moon from diddy riese really hits the spot.

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                                                                                    Mattapoisett in LA RE: Mr Taster Mar 11, 2010 04:45 PM

                                                                                    But Mr Taster, Do you make your own Egg Rolls?

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                                                                                      Mr Taster RE: Mattapoisett in LA Mar 11, 2010 08:49 PM

                                                                                      If only I knew how..... somehow the secrets of the NY eggroll are locked in the minds and hands of a select few in the Northeast of our country :)

                                                                                      Mr Taster

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                                                                                        Mr Taster RE: Mr Taster Apr 13, 2011 04:14 PM

                                                                                        I am happy to report, Mattapoisett in LA, that back in November I did in fact make my own NY style eggrolls :)


                                                                                        Mr Taster

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                                                                                          Mattapoisett in LA RE: Mr Taster Apr 13, 2011 05:41 PM

                                                                                          I had seen that and one of these days I will have to get my act together and try it.

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                                                                                  Cybernaut RE: sillygoosedown Mar 11, 2010 10:45 AM

                                                                                  For me, these are the best cookies and ice-cream sandwiches. I'm guilty in overeating many a time at this place. For me, the price is just a huge added bonus!

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                                                                                    jackattack RE: Cybernaut Apr 13, 2011 05:13 PM

                                                                                    Cybernaut, you really need to try the ice cream cookie sandwiches at La Galleta on Gayley!

                                                                                    La Galleta
                                                                                    964 Gayley Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90024

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                                                                                      westsidegal RE: jackattack Sep 10, 2011 09:19 PM

                                                                                      can't speak to the ice cream sandwiches at La Galleta, but i can absolutely endorse their orange empanadas (made with marmalade).

                                                                                      La Galleta
                                                                                      964 Gayley Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90024

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                                                                                        AAQjr RE: westsidegal Sep 11, 2011 08:39 AM


                                                                                        had a foie gras ice cream sandwich on a hazelnut cookie at Fathers Office the other day! Yumm-0

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                                                                                    Norm Man RE: sillygoosedown Sep 26, 2011 03:31 PM

                                                                                    FREE Diddy Riese Ice Cream Sandwich Offer -- Claim voucher/code by Sunday, October 2, 2011 from Munch on Me.


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                                                                                      ns1 RE: sillygoosedown Sep 26, 2011 03:38 PM

                                                                                      1 scoop of dreyers @ $1 is cheaper than Thrifty. Just sayin'

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                                                                                        Cybernaut RE: sillygoosedown Mar 8, 2012 08:11 AM

                                                                                        moved to IE and miss this place.

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