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Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 08:07 AM

Besides Am Thai Chile Basil, which I happened to really enjoy, is there a Thai Restaurant in Brooklyn that isnt a Thai version of Americanized shitty Chinese..

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  1. Bob Martinez RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 08:37 AM

    Mai Thai in Sunset Park isn't bad at all. It's located in an Asian area so they really don't need to cater to middle American tastes. Give it a try.

    http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/...

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      Daniel76 RE: Bob Martinez Feb 23, 2010 09:45 AM

      I live in Clinton Hill. I should have specified.. So, if there is a Thai Restaurant that far away, I am just driving to Queens.

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        MRich RE: StheJ Feb 24, 2010 06:39 AM

        Manhattan?

        Is the Thai in Manhattan better than BK? If so please tell me where.

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          Bob Martinez RE: MRich Feb 24, 2010 07:02 AM

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/689978

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            MRich RE: Bob Martinez Feb 24, 2010 07:30 AM

            Thanks for the link, but there is nothing there that indicates that there is any really good Thai in Manhattan or that Manhattan Thai is really better than Brooklyn's. One or two so-so places topped by Pam's, which I find no better than Watana for example.

            There is no Thai version of Szechuan Gourmet that I know of, although if someone were to point me to one I'd be very very happy.

            Sorry to talk about an inner borough here, by the way.

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              Bob Martinez RE: MRich Feb 24, 2010 07:48 AM

              The pickings in Brooklyn are pretty slim. Manhattan is better, and Queens is better than Manhattan.

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                Pookipichu RE: MRich Feb 24, 2010 07:57 AM

                I would say that the best Thai in Manhattan > best Thai in BK. And I'm not talking about Pam's Real Thai, which as you mentioned is on the level of Watana. Kittichai and Kurve are both better than any Thai in BK. BK is surprisingly weak on Thai and Indian food considering the wealth of culinary gems. I've eaten at Em and I thought it was serviceable but not great. The fried items were greasy and clunky. Planet Thai and Sea were both disgusting. Literally disgusting. At Planet Thai, the restaurant reeked of bad fish and bleach.

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                  MRich RE: Pookipichu Feb 24, 2010 08:42 AM

                  I will try Kittichai and Kurve.

                  Pending that, I still say calling Manhattan Thai better than Brooklyn Thai is a hair's width distinction.

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            Bob Martinez RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 10:21 AM

            I live in Park Slope and it's a 15 minute drive via the BQE. (Get off at the 38th St. exit. ) (Granted, Sri is about 20 minutes away but sometimes you're coming from a different direction.)

            There's lots of reasons to visit Sunset Park. Great Banh mi at Ba Xuyen. Good Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants. Good shopping for kitchen equipment and shoes. You should check it out.

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              Daniel76 RE: Bob Martinez Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM

              Sunset Park is a fun place.. I will have to go back for Thai.. Had a fairly poor experience with Malayasian there.. But, found one of those dollar dumpling places that was great.. XSG Dumpling House.

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                StheJ RE: Bob Martinez Feb 23, 2010 12:00 PM

                You're better off going around the park and taking ft hamilton parkway to sunset park... less traffic and hassle overall plus, it's quicker and more direct.

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                  Bob Martinez RE: StheJ Feb 23, 2010 12:17 PM

                  I've done it both ways. I don't disagree with you but it depends on how close you are to the BQE.

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                    StheJ RE: Bob Martinez Feb 23, 2010 12:28 PM

                    And if they're blocking off the prospect avenue entrance, which they seem to do randomly...

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                    jen kalb RE: StheJ Feb 23, 2010 12:46 PM

                    From Park Slope I find 5th Ave to 39th Street, left next to Greenwood to 9th Ave, south on that to whichever street you want to cut over on to 8th Ave. to be quickest. Too bad the reverse route doesnt work these days.

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                      StheJ RE: jen kalb Feb 23, 2010 12:52 PM

                      Doesn't make sense for me, seems like you're going east to go west just to go back east again, but to each their own... Ft. Hamilton goes pretty quick and it's straight, especially if you're already over by the prospect expressway.

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                        MRich RE: StheJ Feb 24, 2010 06:40 AM

                        The drive is not the problem, it's parking.

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                    michelley RE: Bob Martinez Feb 24, 2010 06:57 AM

                    Bob,
                    What is a good store for kitchen equipment in Sunset Park?
                    Thanks

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                      Bob Martinez RE: michelley Feb 24, 2010 07:11 AM

                      Eversun Kitchen Supply Inc
                      4815 8th Ave (between 48th St & 49th St)

                      It's worth checking out, especially as part of a shopping and eating expedition down 8th Ave.

                      I also recommend the Hong Kong Supermarket on 8th Ave. and 60th St. It's a full sized market entirely devoted to Asian foods and products. It's big. There are a couple of aisles that have cookware, dishes, and appliances.

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                        tex.s.toast RE: Bob Martinez Feb 24, 2010 07:16 AM

                        I made it here for the first time a few weeks ago - i was very impressed by the quality (and obviously price) of the produce. the butcher's counter was doing a rushing business too and also seemed to have great prices and a wide selection. i will definitely be back.

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                          michelley RE: Bob Martinez Feb 24, 2010 07:59 AM

                          Thanks, I was looking for a new wok.

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                            Bob Martinez RE: michelley Feb 24, 2010 08:39 AM

                            Try out both places although my guess is that you'll wind up buying at HK Supermarket. They've got woks in all shapes and sizes and the prices are quire good.

                            (Nha Trang Palace is a couple of blocks from HKS - very good pho.)
                            http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/...

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                      Pookipichu RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 11:45 AM

                      You are not too far from Watana and it has relatively authentic food. Watana is not terrible. That's high praise for Brooklyn Thai.

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                        montyque RE: Daniel76 Mar 15, 2010 07:29 PM

                        Speaking micro-locally, then, I live in Ft. Greene, and I've had good experiences with Myrtle Thai, though it might be more of the cheap Americanized stuff, they have some of the better AmeriThai food I've had in Brooklyn. My friends say to avoid Manee Thai.

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                        Peter Cherches RE: Bob Martinez Feb 25, 2010 08:54 AM

                        I'll agree with Bob that Mai Thai "isn't bad," but from my experience not worth a trip. I've been meaning to try Am-Thai, but haven't gotten around to it. That's the place that Sietsema wrote about with very limited seating, yes?

                        http://petercherches.blogspot.com

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                          noisejoke RE: Peter Cherches Feb 25, 2010 01:32 PM

                          I actually think AM-Thai is pretty damn good. And they have some unique dishes. It is the place Sietsma wrote about. He pointed out some of the things they do that are special. FWIW, around here in Kensington, AM-Thai is one of our best, of the few and mostly blah, delivery options. The food comes fast, hot and friendly. I find that makes the place exceptional.

                          Otherwise, of course, like most CHers, when we can, we're going to Queens.

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                            Westminstress RE: Peter Cherches Feb 25, 2010 03:04 PM

                            I've tried Am-Thai a few times but haven't been impressed. I think Sietsema exaggerated its merits. The flavors at Am-Thai are not properly balanced (too sweet, not enough fish sauce). There is no comparison to a place like Sripraphai or the other good Thai spots in Queens.

                            Last night I happened to be in Jackson Heights. Sripraphai is closed on Wednesdays, so I went to Zabb Thai. Had really great som tum with peanuts, pork larb & sticky rice. Fresh, flavorful, and balanced. Much, much better than Am-Thai (though granted, Am-Thai does not specialize in Issan food so perhaps the comparison is unfair).

                            Not saying you shouldn't bother to check it out, but don't get your hopes up too high.

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                              EJC RE: Westminstress Feb 25, 2010 05:27 PM

                              It's worth noting, as I understand it that AM in Kensington, and EM on Smith St (lauded with reservations above), are owned by the same folks.

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                              Daniel76 RE: Peter Cherches Mar 12, 2010 12:04 PM

                              it is.. Am Thai is actually really good.. their pumpkin curry is awesome. .the woman also told me she would make me any dish I asked for. I just needed to give her a couple of days.. I have been meaning to have her cook a thai feast up for a couple of friends.

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                            Ralphus RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 10:28 AM

                            I've found Born on Flatbush in Prospect Heights doesn't suck.

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                              jen kalb RE: Ralphus Feb 23, 2010 11:18 AM

                              Sorry, I dont think Born is particularly good. What dishes did you like? maybe I picked the wrong items??

                              Among other things I am very disappointed with the genre of mostly Chinese-run , I think, asian restaurants operating in yuppie neighborhoods that have a formula in which they wont cook fresh pork and use boneless white meat chicken and stir fry minimally, on the assumption their clients prefer their food "light". Born seems to be in this category.

                              Also paltry use of vegetables and fresh herbs

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                                Ralphus RE: jen kalb Mar 1, 2010 01:58 AM

                                I never meant to imply it was outstanding, just thought it didn't completely suck. We tried the panang curry and found it to be good but not mindblowing. I was a bit disappointed with the drunken noodle in that they didn't use the wide, flat noodles that I prefer but it was pretty much as indicated on the menu upon further review. We ordered take out a couple times after a few beers, so that should probably be taken into account as well.

                            2. oolah RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 12:55 PM

                              This may be too far for you, but the spicy menu at Em Thai does not suck. It's not sweet and cloying, and it's really spicy. It's not the best Thai, but it's better than other Brooklyn Thai I've had. Don't stray from the spicy menu though.

                              Then again, I was underwhelmed by Sri, so maybe we have different taste buds.

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                                EJC RE: oolah Feb 23, 2010 12:59 PM

                                I agree that the Em spicy menu is worthwhile. It's no Sri or Zabb, but it's the only Thai food that I'll eat in the 'hood.

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                                  scarlet starlet RE: EJC Feb 24, 2010 03:38 AM

                                  I agree with the Em recommendation. I've lived in Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens for years and this is the only place in the neighborhood that's good and it's actually quite good. I've also been eating at Sripraphai forever so I know that nothing really compares to it, but Em is a reliable and good place to get Thai in Brooklyn if you don't want to schlep to Woodside.

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                                    Nehna RE: scarlet starlet Feb 25, 2010 04:30 AM

                                    Another thumbs up for Em and their spicy menu--their duck dishes are typically quite good too.

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                                      missmasala RE: Nehna Feb 26, 2010 06:44 PM

                                      That's funny, I'm not an Em fan. In Carroll Gardens I prefer Nine-D. I gave up on Em after my SO asked them to put some dried shrimp in his pad thai and they claimed that you couldn't buy dried shrimp in new york. Tho my Thai sister-in-law once got decent food from EM after explaining for about 10 minutes in Thai exactly what she wanted. (she's very particular.) That doesn't help me, as my Thai is not so good.

                                      I really wish Sri (or Zabb, or any good Queens thai--Chao Thai?) would open a branch in Brooklyn. I think there's a market for it.

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                                        oolah RE: missmasala Mar 1, 2010 10:03 AM

                                        MissMasala, I recommend you give the spicy menu at Em a try sometime. I used to prefer Nine-D too, but the spicy stuff at Em is pretty tasty. I particularly like the ground pork dish, which is pretty mouth-searing and flavorful.

                                        The rest of their menu is less impressive.

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                                          missmasala RE: oolah Mar 1, 2010 12:25 PM

                                          OK. it's literally around the corner from me, so I'll give it another shot.

                                          Also, I've heard that Em is owned by the same people that own the thai place in kensington (AM chile thai basil?) that people seem to like a lot. Have never been to that one, but wonder if they tone it down for carroll gardens or if the people who like the kensington place have never been to sri or zabb or chao.

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                                  Daniel76 RE: oolah Mar 23, 2010 08:04 AM

                                  Em is actually owned by the people who own AM- Thai Chile Basil.. So, that is encouraging..

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                                  Westminstress RE: Daniel76 Feb 23, 2010 07:25 PM

                                  I don't even think Am Thai is that good. You are much better off driving to Queens.

                                  1. monikamost RE: Daniel76 Feb 24, 2010 04:30 PM

                                    I might be a total Thai noob but i really like Amarin Cafe in Greenpoint. Their curry is very good and the pad thai is really fresh tasting.

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                                      dark knight RE: monikamost Mar 19, 2010 06:10 AM

                                      Amarin is the best of a bunch of bad options in Williamsburg but I'm not sure that qualifies it for good. It's the equivalent of chinese takeout.

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                                      617 Manhattan Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11222

                                    2. Mandymac RE: Daniel76 Mar 20, 2010 07:15 AM

                                      Thai in NYC is heartbreaking. It's hard to overcome the muddy flavors of a lot of the places, when Thai should be bright, flavorful, fresh and spicy. I've never had Thai in Manhattan I thought was good at all.

                                      However, you might want to try Thai Cafe on Manhattan Avenue in Greenpoint. That is a place that I've made special trips to when a car was available.

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                                        chowbie RE: Daniel76 Mar 22, 2010 01:56 PM

                                        I'm pretty picky about my Thai food and I think the new "Born Thai" on Flatbush in Prospect Heights has serious potential. They are Thai, for one, and two, seem to believe you if you want authentically spicy food. Last time I got chicken with basil sauce and pad thai and was surprised to be pleased with both. I liked it better than AM Thai, and it's an actual sit-down restaurant with nice decor. Head and shoulders above anything in the vicinity (I know that's only saying it's better than "a Thai version of Americanized shitty Chinese"), and I'd encourage Jen to try it again and others in the hood to try it, though maybe it's not worth a special trip.

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                                          jen kalb RE: chowbie Mar 22, 2010 02:10 PM

                                          I appreciate the encouragement and recommendation but I was just appalled by the food I had and am not plannig to rush back.
                                          It wasnt a problem with spice level I had but with insufficient ingredients and technique. The ladies in the front of the house are very nice - Im not sure about the kitchen.

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                                            buttertart RE: chowbie Mar 23, 2010 11:22 AM

                                            Caveat: do not order in from Born. We had an absolutely dreadful meal delivered, worse by far than T Thai ever produced. Everything was oversweetened and not at all spiced. I know Thai food is by far best eaten in the restaurant, but given that experience, we haven't been tempted to set foot in the place.

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