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ChrisOC Feb 20, 2010 07:00 AM

I always wondered how this statement related to the product I was buying at the moment. I could be getting yesterdays output and the statement would still be true. I just saw a bag of frozen ravioli in the freezer at the supermarket. On the bag were those words "MADE FRESH DAILY" ?????????

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    fourunder Feb 20, 2010 07:55 AM

    This pales in comparison to "Fresh Caught Fish"or "Fresh Frozen".

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    1. re: fourunder
      bushwickgirl Feb 20, 2010 10:45 PM

      This is somewhat similar to the recent comment on the canned soup thread about current Campbell's Chicken Noodle ads, regarding fresh made egg noodles...at some point, they were. It's all just advertising ploys.
      "Fresh Frozen" rather have it that way than aged and frozen. "Fresh Caught Fish," however, especially if it's not twitching on the dock, is utter silliness. Caveat emptor, sort of.

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        fourunder Feb 21, 2010 02:51 AM

        b,

        I with you on the Fresh frozen fish...I really do not understand peoples perception with the negative connotations associated with it. Frozen is is often better handled than fresh fish. Just using transportation as a point, it takes time to get that fish to you, even if it is by air. Even turkeys and chickens are partially frozen and allowed to be sold as fresh by government standards.

        My personal favorite is the people who believe *Sushi Grade* fish is the freshest and best available....Frozen at Sea is often better than a source that claims fresh caught or off the docks.....that boat may have been out to sea for days to weeks before it got back and started the processing and transportation process.

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          latindancer Feb 22, 2010 07:02 AM

          "It takes time to get that fish to you, even if it is by air..."

          Obviously it depends on demographics.
          Fresh crab or wild king, flown in to Seattle from Alaska the same day, is fresh by anyone's standard, nevermind the government's.
          It just depends on where you live.

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            fourunder Feb 22, 2010 07:14 AM

            Unless it's still swimming, alive and kicking.....it's not fresh by my standards..
            :-)

            To further add, around my area here in Northern New Jersey, Greek restaurants seem to be the rage in the last few years. While they have an abundance of fish offerings.....all are iced down.....how fresh they are, is any one's guess. You can go to some Chinese restaurants in NNJ or Chinatown in New York City....or any Chinatown for that matter....and you will have real live fresh fish still swimming in tanks......including King Crab.

      2. re: fourunder
        ttoommyy Feb 21, 2010 05:12 AM

        Fresh Frozen is a valid term. It means the fish was frozen immediately after it was caught or harvested. I'd rather a fresh frozen fish than a "fresh" one that's been in the seafood case for more than a day and hasn't seen the oean in a week!

        1. re: ttoommyy
          bushwickgirl Feb 22, 2010 05:30 AM

          Fresh frozen is absolutely a valid term and I think that was fourunder's point, as was mine. I have no qualms about buying fish that was/is frozen. Have you observed any difference in quality between fresh caught (unless you catch it yourself) or fresh frozen, aside from freshness? I haven't.

          Four, I'm confused about the sushi grade thing and have read many differing opinions. The most current attitude seems to be that it's actually better that the fish had been frozen on the boat, which seemingly kills pararsites, as well as maintaining freshness. So what's the real deal? Is sushi grade just another advertsing ploy, about to bite the dust?
          Happy Year of the Tiger, BTW.

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            fourunder Feb 22, 2010 06:17 AM

            b,

            Thanks for the well wishes, and yes, the point of my comments were I have no problem with fish fresh frozen or frozen at sea. Handled properly, it is a better option than poorly handled fish that has not been frozen or iced down properly. I guess I need to improve my writing skills.

            I'm really not the type to get caught up into codes and regulations to the point others do so they can try to prove how smart they are.... so I may not be the best person to answer your question. What I know of Sushi Grade is this, the fish must first be flash frozen to minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit for a minimum one week period of time. This is more of a precautionary measure for sale to the public with regards to health concerns. I can tell you that while fishing off the coast of Montauk and in the waters off Florida and Hawaii, I have enjoyed many different fish fleshes filleted on the boat and eaten raw right out of the water.... and I never got sick. In fact, the first time I mentioned the freezing issue with the captain of the boat, he laughed at me. It's my understanding that when a Giant Tuna is caught in Eastern waters, and flown to Japan, they are simply iced and not frozen....and the Japanese are the most discriminating Tuna eaters of all.

            This following link is the one I have referred to in the past concerning Sushi information.

            http://www.sushifaq.com/sushi-grade-f...

            1. re: fourunder
              bushwickgirl Feb 22, 2010 06:37 AM

              OK, thanks and I'll read over the link.
              I also have eaten quite a lot of fresh caught raw fish with no problems, reminds me of the old retort, "haven't gotten sick yet!" Well, I haven't.
              Back in the day in CT, we used to have parasitic worms appear in fresh fillet of sole at certain times of the year, which was caught off MA and RI, and were quite visible in the fillets. I would avoid purchasing it during those times, although I don't remember it being thought of as a public health risk, more just an unappetizing one.

      3. bbqboy Feb 22, 2010 07:20 AM

        fish story:
        http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs....

        1. ipsedixit Feb 22, 2010 07:23 AM

          Of course it's made fresh daily ... it just doesn't necessarily mean today.

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          1. re: ipsedixit
            danhole Feb 22, 2010 09:41 PM

            That is a truly excellent point ipsedixit! Do you work in advertising, by chance? Just joking! I have in the past and there are all kinds of ways they can turn a phrase to state one thing and totally mean another, and people eat it up - literally in some cases! LOL!

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