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Where to eat near Kaiser-Permanente on Sunset & Vermont

East-Coast Chowhound here. I'll be in LA visiting Kaiser-Permanente's Medical Center on Sunset from 2/23/10 to 2/28. My mother's very sick and she's not going to be with us much longer. I found out yesterday so I haven't had much time to plan.

I don't know exactly where I'll be staying yet, but would like to know where 'hounds go in this neighborhood. I'm trying to avoid renting a car because it'd be an extravagance, particularly with the difficult parking in the area. I will be walking the neighborhood extensively, however, as I walk at least a mile a day (usually many more) for exercise.

I'm not terribly picky and love all sorts of food. I've not been to LA in many, many years so I'm completely clueless about the neighborhood.

A great breakfast place is essential. Lunch needs to be nearer to the hospital than other meals. For dinner I'd like to avoid the vegetarian restaurants that dot the landscape in that neck of the woods. My diet is meat, starch and precious few veggies. I love Italian food and find it very comforting. A good steak for two or three of the nights would be ideal.

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  1. You might really enjoy Umami Burger on Hollywood Blvd. Not too far from your location. Some good burgers. Good luck to you during this tough time.


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    1. If you like Thai, Jitlada at 5233 W Sunset is very popular among CHers.
      Be strong for your Mom.

      1. Zankou Chicken is short walk.

        Zankou Chicken
        5065 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

        1. For breakfast try Square One on Fountain. Really good and close to your location.


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          1. re: wienermobile

            Lunch is good too, especially since they still serve breakfast items. My favorite is the house-cured salmon "Benedict", served on a crunchy shredded potato cake with poached egg, hollandaise and frisée, which you can get with either grits or a good green salad on the side.

          2. Not too far a walk is Best Fish Taco in Ensenada. Great fish or shrimp tacos that's all they serve. 1650 Hillhurst Avenue Los Angeles (NE of Kaiser and not too far a walk)

            If you don't get a car there's a Metro Red Line station next to Kaiser on the corner of Vermont/Sunset which can get you to places around LA that are chow worthy like Korea Town, Hollywood, Downtown, Universal City and N. Hollywood.

            No worthwhile steaks in the area. There's a Morton's steakhouse almost across the street from the 7th St. Downtown Metro Red line station.

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            1. re: monku

              The Metro Red Line is an excellent suggestion to broaden your search options in LA..

              1. Fred 62 is a diner close by and is open 24 hours.

                Fred 62
                1854 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                1. There aren't many destination restaurants in the Los Feliz area but there are plenty of good neighborhood places to have a nice casual meal. Farfalla and Little Dom's to the Northeast on Hillhurst both offer pretty good Italian. Although Monku is right that there are no upscale steakhouses nearby, you can also get a decent steak at Little Dom's. Electric Lotus to the North on Vermont and Akbar. I'm not personally a big fan of Yuca's but its very popular Mexican and closeby for lunch on Hollywood Blvd, just east of Vermont. Mustard Seed Cafe on Hillhurst is a good local option for breakfast. Thai Town is just to the west and there are lots of good options there with Jitlada on Sunset and Ruen Pair and Sapp's Coffee Shop on Hollywood being among the best. I don't know of any hotels that close by so I'm guessing you may end up staying in Hollywood. That opens a lot more options up. Best wishes for you and your mom.

                  1. When I lived in that part of the world, I frequented Los Burritos right down the street from Kaiser. Zero atmosphere, but I liked the homemade-style burritos and tacos they served, but usually I went there for teh charbroiled chicken platter. It consisted of a boneless/skinless breast, butterflied, and marinated with citrus and herbs, then charbroiled. Served with rice, beans, a green salad and tortillas, and a good helping of salsa, it was always a tasty, somewhat healthy, and very filling dinner. They also do a nice job with juices & smoothies (licuados?).

                    1. work in the area and this is where I walk to for eats...Square One for breakfast or lunch. Yai's on Vermont for Thai, up the street from Yai's is Nikko's for sushi, Pho Hollywood for Vietnamese, and Umami burger. I would agree w recommendations to take the redline to downtown for steaks.

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                      1. re: hppzz

                        alas, Pho Hollywood is closed. only lasted 3 months... that's a tough spot for a restaurant.

                      2. I know what you're experiencing and can only hope the best for you. Los Feliz may not be a four-star foodie mecca but there are good places to be found, many of which are mentuined upthread.

                        Square One, which was mentioned, is one of the two or three best non-hotel breakfasts in Los Angeles, and it's only a block from the hospital.

                        The Kitchen has very good comfort food, and it sounds like that's a quantity you'll be in need of.

                        Chi Dynasty on Hillhurst is far from the best Chinese that L.A. has to offer, but it has a good menu of standards and is well-suited for takeout.

                        Il Capriccio may be the best pizza in the area, they have good service in-house but their delivery is known for being unreliable. Palermo's pizza is more "old-school" but their you can set your watch by their delivery times.

                        If you want to treat yourself, Figaro Cafe is solid bistro fare, relatively easy on the pocketbook by L.A. standards, with very good organic breads and baked goods.

                        Il Capriccio di Carlo (was Il Capriccio Pizzeria)
                        4518 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                        Square One Dining
                        4854 Fountain Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90029

                        Figaro Cafe Restaurant
                        1802 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                        Palermo Italian Restaurant
                        1858 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                        Il Capriccio On Vermont
                        1757 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                        Chi Dynasty
                        1813 Hillhurst Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

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                        1. re: maxzook

                          Il Capriccio on Vermont is the full-menu Italian place, sister to the pizzeria on Hollywood Blvd.

                          The Kitchen
                          4348 Fountain Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90029

                        2. I am sorry to hear why you are making this trip. Hopefully some LA food will provide peace to you.
                          Kaiser Sunset is close to some Thai gems:
                          The Holy Trinity of Thai Noodles - Sapp Coffee Shop, Thaitown Noodles and Ord Noodles. I love them all for different reasons.

                          1. I am sorry to hear about the reason for your trip. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your mother.
                            If you like hot wings, there is Ye Rustic Inn (it is a bar, but the wings are good), there is also a Thai place that was pretty good on Kenmore(?) about 1/2 block north of Sunset (I believe behind Los Burritos?). I love La Parilla, for Mexican, which is on Sunset (towards downtown). What is the name of that place that is on that weird corner on Sunset going towards downtown, it has a French name, Monseur (something with an M for sure)? I had a wonderful Steak au Poivre there and my friend's Coq au Vin wasn't too shabby, either.
                            As already mentioned Jitlada is great for Thai, as is Sapp.
                            I also found an old post (guess my tastes still run the same and I still don't know the name of places!).
                            Good luck!

                            1. my heart ..prayers go out to you in this time...los burritos has a decent mole of chicken..but liquados is a better choice if you are health minded...your in my prayers..

                              1. Wow! Thanks for all the great tips in just under two hours' time!

                                Despite the fact that I've been told there're a whole lot of roving homeless people in the neighborhood, I plan on walking down Hollywood Blvd. quite a ways, and back on Sunset. Hey, at one time in my life I lived on the outskirts of the worst part of Brooklyn, NY. So long as people aren't shooting at one another, I think I'll be fine.

                                You know, beggars can't be choosers. It makes sense, given the demographic of the neighborhood, that there isn't a really good steak. So I'll try Umami Burger; I've heard all about it and love a good burger. Do they have good pickles, too?

                                Thanks to the poster who mentioned Travelodge. It's one of the places I'm considering. Frankly, if I stay in a more upscale place the cost will be compounded by either car rental/parking or taxi fare.

                                But back to the food. I understand there's a pocket of Thai action but I really really don't want Thai. I only regret, however, that I'll be very far away from Chinatown.

                                Square One looks enchanting. Is $9.00 what one must pay in Los Angeles for bacon, eggs, toast and grits? Maybe that's because Square One is located in an area with a high concentration of well-heeled doctors and other hospital workers. $13 for eggs benedict I can buy but $7.50 for an egg sandwich? Oh, dear. I looked at the menu for Fred's 62 diner. Same thing. Hey, these prices are expensive by New York standards. I don't want to sound cheap but I can't spend $15 with coffee and tip for breakfast every day. The good news is whatever hotel I choose will offer some sort of morning food.

                                Is it difficult to get to China Town or Japan Town by Metro or bus? Is it far?

                                One of my stops is going to be at a friend's home in Beverly Hills. Any suggestions/warnings about Beverly Hills lunches/dinners?

                                Thanks again for everything up to this point. You L.A. 'hounds are wonderful!

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                                1. re: shaogo

                                  There's bus service on Sunset Blvd. to Chinatown (Broadway) and the Red Line will take you to Union Station which is basically across the street from Chinatown.
                                  Philippes, home of the French dip sandwich is across the street from Union Station and right on the edge of Chinatown.

                                  1. re: monku

                                    Likewise, the Red Line gets you close to Little Tokyo. Get off at the Civic Center stop and go east on 1st St a half-mile or so.

                                    1. re: Akitist

                                      And now, with the advent of the extended Gold Line http://www.metro.net/projects_studies... things have really opened up with respect to Little Tokyo (along with much of East LA) and the houndly pursuit of great food.

                                      1. re: Akitist

                                        Thanks to both of you. Everyone says that the bus lines are pretty good. I'd really like to make one or more dinners Chinese. And I just love French Dip sandwiches!

                                    2. re: shaogo

                                      Yep, those prices are about right for LA, try their French chust with pecans and fresh vanilla whipped cream awesome stuff at Square One.

                                      Also, Zankou might be a good idea. Yes, to Umami though I'm not the biggest of fans anymore. Fred 62 and Mustard Seed Cafe. The Kitchen is also good. Cafe stella. also, Yuca's Hut for tacos, burritos, and interestingly enough great chili cheese burgers with chopped jalapenos. And also Little Dom's is good, for the oyster po boy (though the bread is not correct).

                                      In Beverly Hills: Nate n Al's for Deli is good, avoid Crustacean (if at all possible, unless you can handle some horrendous food and even more horrendous prices but you'll get to see some starts if that's what you're into), sushi sushi on beverly dr south of wilshire for some great sushi. also, grill on the alley for amazing corned beef hash and eggs (if you can eat it for lunch since they don't serve breakfast) as well as an amazing Crab Louise to end all Louise. check out capriotti's for some good deli sandwiches. i'll tink of a few later an post. oh, yeah, for steak in beverly hills go to either Wolfgang Puck's Cut or Wolfgang's Steakhouse (which are both blocks away from each other but no relation, but if you're from NY, then Wolfgang's is in the vein of Peter Luger0.

                                      1. re: shaogo

                                        Plenty of cheap eats around the immediate area of Kaiser for breakfast basics, however nothing chow worthy. It's that kind of area. There's a Burger King right next to Kaiser if you're desparate.

                                        Chinatown is 6 miles from Kaiser straight down Sunset Blvd (Changes into Cesar Chavez Ave.) to Broadway. Make a left onto Broadway and 1/2 block down is Yum Cha Cafe for 99 cent dim sum. You can get to Little Tokyo by walking a few blocks west of Union Station from the Red Line stop. You could transfer to the Gold Line to get to Little Tokyo, but it's only one stop which is easy enough to walk. Little Tokyo is just on the otherside of the freeway from Chinatown by a few blocks.

                                        1. re: monku

                                          There is also a Subway across the street and a block east of the hospital on Sunset. Gets packed with all the KP employees during lunchtime, tho.

                                        2. re: shaogo

                                          Travelodge is a block from Kaiser and right next door to a Wendy's which I think is open 24 hours a day, they have great chili. Starbucks on the corner of Vermont and Hollywood Blvd/Prospect Avenue. House of Pies on the corner of Vermont and Franklin Avenue for inexpensive breakfast and decent pies (about 2 long city blocks from Kaiser).

                                          Walking around Hollywood during the daytime is different than at night, just stay on the well lit busy streets and avoid taking short cuts down the side streets.

                                          1. re: monku

                                            In a pinch, that Wendy's near my hotel will be great for some guilty-pleasure stuff. I happen to like their baked potatoes and their chili.

                                            Anyplace called "House of Pies" is right up my alley.

                                            Thanks for the re-assurance about daytime walking. I love to scope out new places on foot, even though it can get tiring at times. I've only recently gotten my head around just how big LA is, though, and that transportation of some sort is necessary.

                                            I'll have access to a vehicle a couple of evenings, I'm sure. Perhaps that's going to be the best way to explore.

                                            1. re: monku

                                              House of Pies ~~ Banberry Pie
                                              I had forgotten

                                            2. re: shaogo

                                              The prices at Square One and even Fred 62 are higher than the average LA diner, but the food is better (in the case of Square One, WAY better.)

                                              I have lived two blocks from Kaiser for over ten years and have never been mugged or robbed. There are better neighborhoods in LA but there are also far worse. If you've lived in NYC you should be streetwise enough to handle it so long as you aren't out wandering at 2 am.

                                              And I have been taking public transit around LA for almost as long. As others have said, there is a Red Line station at Sunset and Vermont that can take you downtown.

                                              Both Chinatown and Little Tokyo have stations on the Gold Line light rail that connects to the Red Line at Union Station. The Gold Line also goes to Boyle Heights with some of the best Mexican food in town. And definitely take the advice to get off the Red Line at Westlake/MacArthur Park and go to Langer's Deli.

                                              For schedules go to http://metro.net; for a trip finder go to http://socaltransport.org. For the period you're likely to be here, unless you think you're going to be taking at least two or three buses a day you're probably better off paying single fares than buying a TAP card (bus/Red Line pass).

                                              And understand that we're on the edge of Thai Town. Jitlada is less than a mile west of Kaiser, maybe four stops on the #2 Sunset Blvd. bus, and it's probably the best Thai food in the United States.

                                              5233 1/2 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                                              1. re: maxzook

                                                Jitlada is the best Thai currently in L.A., but not the U.S. - That distinction belongs to Lotus of Siam in Vegas.

                                                1. re: maxzook

                                                  Thanks for the links!

                                                  I've always wanted to go to Langer's Deli. That'll be one of my side-trips.

                                                  My brother has a TAP card as well as a car. I'll be able to use one or the other.

                                                  1. re: shaogo

                                                    If your dietary preference is really "meat, starch and precious few veggies", then you should head into K-town on the Red Line (either get off at Wilshire Vermont or transfer and go to Wilshire/Normandie or Wilshire/Western) and check out some of the AYCE Korean BBQ places and other good stuff.

                                                2. re: shaogo

                                                  hospital is a year old and the hospital cafeteria was just finished and open last month...huge glass windows, out door patio, brick oven....made to order grill..so don't discount that for basic items such as bacon and eggs.

                                                  1. re: hppzz

                                                    Good point, hppzz. I heard from several KP employees that the food in the cafeteria is good.

                                                    1. re: hppzz

                                                      I almost mentioned this cafeteria. I haven't eaten there yet although it looks gorgeous, but the thought of recommending a hospital cafeteria on Chowhound kinda gives me the hives ;p

                                                      The LA Rose Cafe is on Fountain and New Hampshire two blocks east of Square One, it's open for breakfast and is more reasonably priced. For me it's an alternate destination on the numerous occasions when Square One has thirty people waiting.

                                                      LA Rose Cafe
                                                      4749 Fountain Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90029

                                                      1. re: hppzz

                                                        Cafeteria still sucks even though new - the food isn't as bad as, well, hospital food, but the service is lousy and signage confusing

                                                      2. re: shaogo

                                                        I know you requested a breakfast place, maybe it's better to keep some food and snacks in the room, and nibble in the morning?

                                                        When I travel, I like to have meals out, but to keep nibbling and snacks in the room. There's a sizable CVS not far, and a Trader Joe's and Gelson's (upscale grocer) in the not so immediate area.

                                                        1. re: cjla

                                                          Neither the TJs nor the Gelsons are easily accessible by public transit from the vicinity of Kaiser. But there is a large Vons Pavilions three blocks east of Kaiser at Sunset and Virgil.

                                                          And one of the best cheese stores in the city is within walking distance ... Cheese Store of Silver Lake. But yeah, it's pricey.

                                                          Cheese Store of Silver Lake
                                                          3926 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90029

                                                      3. These places are right across the street from kaiser, great for a quick lunch,
                                                        New York cafe on sunset also popular hospital workers for lunch about a block to the west.
                                                        We order from both often in our office.
                                                        is across the street almost a block south very close.
                                                        much better then the fast food chains that are around the area.
                                                        Ye rustic for wings and the burger is huge and a stiff drink they also have breakfest specials inc. a drink def. bar food but has it's charm.
                                                        Sansui japanese and very calming, also en sushi is not bad, both on hillhurst.

                                                        1. If you do decide to take the Red Line subway towards downtown, just minutes away get off at the Westlake-MacArthur Park stop and right across the street is Langer's Deli for the best pastrami in LA. They close at 4pm and are closed Sundays. Worth a trip.

                                                          Langer's Delicatessen
                                                          704 S Alvarado St, Los Angeles, CA 90057

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                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                            and better than any in NY too.

                                                            (but that may just start up another discussion altogether).

                                                          2. While it's hard to beat Jitlada for Thai food recommendations on this website, I used to work at Sunset and would walk up one block on Vermont to Hollywood and eat a little family run thai place called Bamboo House. They have a tasty spicy ground chicken dish.

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                                                            1. re: DrBruin

                                                              I probably have Bamboo House's pad thai at least once a month. Thanks for remembering to mention the place - it's one of those places I tend to take for granted since I eat there so much. And it's certainly convenient to Kaiser.

                                                              I nudged the OP to try Jitlada primarily because he doesn't seem to be a Thai fan, and I think it's more likely to knock his socks off; Bamboo House is probably closer to the kind of Thai/Chinese he's used to.

                                                              Bamboo House Thai & Chinese
                                                              4852 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90027

                                                              1. re: maxzook

                                                                You're very welcome. I know that people who go to Bamboo House go regularly... but they don't seem to mention it. It's quite reasonably priced... and the pad thai is decent... but if you can handle spicy, try the spicy ground chicken special... mmmm....

                                                            2. I am going through a similiar situation with a parent. Warm thoughts to you..

                                                              Where you are staying is off the Red Line so it connects you to so many places. I like Home in Los Feliz on Hillhurst for breakfast..great patio. You can walk there.

                                                              Another great restaurant within walking distance is Vermont. It is a more upscale but the food is excellent and I am sure you will have a great steak there. I also hear great things about Little Dom's for Italian

                                                              1. I like Farfalla on Hillhurst for Italian...well run with great food. The owner is always there and he'll make you feel comfortable.
                                                                Alcove on Hillhurst for breakfast. Good coffee and a wonderful bakery where you can sit outside and enjoy whatever sun we may/may not have in the next few days.
                                                                No, Umami doesn't server pickles like lots of NY hamburger joints do....
                                                                Nevertheless, I wouldn't go near the place again with a ten-foot pole..

                                                                1. It's a bit farther than some of the other places mentioned, but you can get great Lebanese food at Marouch on Santa Monica & Edgemont (just west of Vermont). Open every day except Monday for lunch & dinner.

                                                                  1. There's a Fat Burger within walking distance right up Vermont.

                                                                    1. For breakfast, I like Mustard Seed Cafe on Hillhurst, north of Franklin and the bacon breakfast burrito at the taco stand Hecho in Los Feliz.

                                                                      I second the Kitchen for comfort food/steak at a decent price.

                                                                      For fast food, Fatburger is slower than slow but good.

                                                                      Langers is definitely worth the trip!

                                                                      I know you said you weren't into Thai, but I love the roasted pork with Chinese broccoli @ Yai's in the same shopping center as Fatburger - I've been eating this all over Thai-town and Yai's still has the best!

                                                                      I haven't had any amazing meals at Little Dom's. Vinoteca Farfalla on Hillhurst has nice happy hour food & wine prices and I love their buffala mozzarella plate.

                                                                      1. I'm not in LA, but I've had bedside vigils with dear friends who were in the local Kaiser (medium-sized) hospital, so I can feel your anguish. Their cafeteria was an OK source of cheap familiar cafeteria eats and I made do quite nicely on the offerings. Just check the hours as they offer different things at different times and close down in the evening.

                                                                        Another thought for cheap breakfasts -- I go to my local McD's or Burger King and get away with about $3.00 by ordering off the $1.00 menu and getting senior-priced coffee. Their breakfast menus go off at 10:30. McD's dollar deals: sausage McMuffin, egg burrito, hash browns, two apple pies. Burger King has a nice ham and egg on english muffin thing and 50-cent coffee for us oldsters. They also have crunchy cheese-stuffed tater-tots which are quite tasty.

                                                                        1. I live about 5 blocks north of the hospital. Don't be scared to walk around either during the day or at night. Yes, there are some homeless people on Vermont but nothing dangerous.

                                                                          Coffee: Intelligentsia is very very delicious and a nice stroll straight east on Sunset. Probably a 15 minute walk but worth it. Also, It's A Grind is one block north of the hospital on Vermont. Starbucks is another block north of that.

                                                                          Breakfast: Square One is delicious and worth the $$. It is delicious and they have a lovely patio area. Mustard Seed is also good, but a much longer walk. About 20 mins probably. And Square One is much better food-wise.

                                                                          Lunch: My mom likes going to the Alcove when she is in town. Yes, it is pricey for a casual lunch/dinner place, but they have a lovely outside patio as well. FYI: For something quick, there is a Quiznos one block north of the hospital on Vermont. There is a Subway attached to the first floor of the hospital.

                                                                          Dinner: Farfalla Tratoria has excellent calzones and they deliver. Unami burger has a much cheaper happy hour ($5 burger) from 4-7 pm. I find it pricey when it is not happy hour. And I will defend Yuca's. Try the carne asada burrito. Also, if you just need a cheeseburger, Yuca's is $3 something w/ fries. It hits the spot.

                                                                          Places to avoid: Fred 62s, Pattaya Thai and House of Pies. House of Pies looks cute on the outside, but it is a food disaster.

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                                                                          1. re: Lmo1823

                                                                            i think a cheeseburger and fries at yuca's is more like 5 bucks. but yeah, all your recs are good too.

                                                                            1. re: Lmo1823

                                                                              Second that on House of Pies: DISASTER.

                                                                            2. I'm waiting to depart and just wanted you all to know I deeply appreciate the help.

                                                                              - shaogo

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                                                                              1. Bump.

                                                                                I'm still in L.A.; mom's in hospice in Hollywood. She's held on much longer than we thought but is declining rapidly now.

                                                                                Is Musso and Frank's a tourist trap or does anyone share the good thoughts about the place that some locals have?

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                                                                                1. re: shaogo

                                                                                  I still love Musso's. Their Thursday night chicken pot pie is one of LA's best.

                                                                                  1. re: shaogo

                                                                                    So sorry to hear about your mom - but glad you and your family have had extra time with her.

                                                                                    I know many folks who love Musso and Franks still for their martini's. I haven't been there for that - I've been there for a fun "I think only locals know about it treat". Go for BREAKFAST. It's a late breakfast, I think they don't open until 11, but sit at the counter and get an order of flannel cakes and an order of bacon.

                                                                                    If you go early enough, not many folks are there and you can just feel the history, way fun. Plus the flannelcakes are GOOD. You sit at the counter as they are so delicate, if you sat at a table by the time you got them they'd be cooled. But sitting at the counter you can see them being made and, you get then fresh off the grill. A treat.

                                                                                      1. re: shaogo

                                                                                        I am definitely a Musso & Frank's fan, although the place is ... controversial ... amongst L.A. Chowhounds. It is the oldest resto in Hollywood -- practically prehistoric by southern California standards -- and hasn't changed their menu or recipes very much in at least fifty years. Which is why people both love and hate it.

                                                                                        Definitely agree with happybaker about the flannelcakes, but remember they are only served from 11 am to 3 pm.

                                                                                        Musso & Frank Grill
                                                                                        6667 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90028

                                                                                        1. re: maxzook

                                                                                          Maxzook, you are correct, they are only served at that time.

                                                                                          Still, it's fun!

                                                                                      2. Thanks again to all of you.

                                                                                        I'm back in Connecticut now. But we have a plan for an L.A. trip in late April. See you then!