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paris - family friendly restaurants for dinner in the 8th?

nealster Feb 16, 2010 10:32 AM

We're heading to Paris with a 3 month old and a well behaved and not food picky 4 1/2 year old. on April 6 and staying through April 13th We are staying at the Hilton Arc de Triomphe in the 8th (rue de Courcelles). I was hoping to get some recommendations for nearby good places for dinner that are relatively reasonable in price, great food, not too touristy and that would be acceptable to bring children (e.g., early-ish dinner at 7 pm or so) We were hoping to get dinner recommendations relatively close to our hotel (don't mind a short metro ride to a nearby stop or arrondissement for a better meal experience) but figure we won't want to venture too far in the evenings. We may get a sitter one or two nights, but will be there for 7 nights total.

On a side note, any other recommendations for similarly qualified lunch places central to Paris for sightseeing would also be appreciated. We may just be doing picnic style, but certainly open to some good brasserie or bistro recommendations.

  1. souphie Feb 21, 2010 09:08 AM

    Le Gourmet des Ternes is not far from your hotel -- awesome beef, excellent fries. Reservation is very very advisable, but kids should be as happy as the parents. Don't miss the baba. And the pavé de boeuf.

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    1. re: souphie
      nealster Feb 23, 2010 02:14 PM

      Many thanks to all for the recommendations. Hopefully we'll eat well and also enjoy having the kids with us during the meal!

      1. re: nealster
        John Talbott Feb 24, 2010 12:59 PM

        Well, today's 'Scope did a Dossier on Kid friendly places, as they say in Times Square, checkitoud:

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          nealster Feb 28, 2010 02:35 AM

          Perfect timing. The translated version in Google Translator read a bit strangely but got the general gist in terms of features/pros/cons. Thanks again, John!

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            Busk Feb 28, 2010 04:31 AM

            Thanks for that link.

            Also, I would not stress too much about kids in your average places. Your serveur who looks about 30 likely has a couple little ones himself, and he knows how tough it is to go out to dinner with them on vacation and have a reasonably good time. Also, you're more likely to run into people to who really like kids than those that are jerks about it.

            I will also mention that the hag who works at Le Rubis went apoplectic when I showed up with two kids so I'd avoid that place. I don't know if she forgot to take her medicine or what. Anyway, it was a good opportunity to practice insulting in French.

            1. re: Busk
              John Talbott Feb 28, 2010 10:14 AM

              My charming exhost at eG and I ate at the Cafe Cache Le 104 (Rue d'Aubervilliers), the new Art/multipurpose Center in the 19th which is really awesome (it's the former public funeral place [anciennes Pompes funèbres municipales] and it's immense; a resto run by the Palais of Tokyo folk opens the 2nd semester) and there were tons of kids. My meal was subpar but her "brunch" was quite nice.

              1. re: Busk
                nealster Mar 7, 2010 07:41 AM

                Love the mention of the hag at Le Rubis - made me chuckle. Will avoid that one.

                1. re: nealster
                  Oakglen Mar 7, 2010 10:32 AM

                  I have never, ever, seen kids in Le Rubis, the other wine bars or the hotel bars. Those are drinking establishments, and food service is often of secondary importance. Not true for some of the upscale places like Maceo etc; just use common sense. Many restaurants have kid menus, and most can be found easily here or on the internet.

                  1. re: nealster
                    PhilD Mar 7, 2010 11:50 AM

                    It is a shame, it is a good traditional bar, which is rare in this area. It took us a little while but we managed to be "accepted" by the owners, and yes they live up to the caricature of surly service very well and for us that is part of its charm.

                    It is a wine bar that serves food. Does anyone know the law on kids in bars? (not brasseries/restaurants). They do have an upstairs dining room that is separate which may be OK for kids but like Oakglen I have never seen kids in the bar area.

                    1. re: PhilD
                      Busk Mar 7, 2010 06:28 PM

                      Well, she won't be getting any less surly after her run in with me. I am not sure if I broke any French laws taking my kids into some cafe, but I think some of the invectives I used to express my displeasure may be illegal in some arrondisements.

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            vincentinparisandrome Feb 20, 2010 12:25 PM

            Sounds to me like you need a brasserie. They're always good places with kids, they have very flexible hours and are busy, bustling places. The menu will inevitably have kid friendly food (poulet rôti, fries, mashed potatoes, sausages - even baguette and butter can go a long way to assuaging a hungry child.

            Not far from you, there's Le boeuf sur le toit, http://www.boeufsurletoit.com, 34 rue du Colisée. Yes, it now belongs to Flo, a mini chain of catering and historical brasseries, but they still do their classics right. A bit north of you, there is another classic, le Wepler, on place de Clichy.

            Just about any big café wil be great for a family at lunch time, in addition to whatever plat du jour is simmering in the back, there will be baguette sandwiches, omelettes, croque-monsieur, and le hot-dog, ever-present. (Sadly the old-school baguette warmers, onto which baguettes were skewered lengthwise, creating a perfect cavity for the hot dog, are few and far between these days). Crêpe stands abound, for eating in or out, sweet or savory. And Dame Tartine, next door to the Pompidou Centre overlooking the Stravinsky fountain, seems to be a hit with kids, all open-face sandwiches, hot and cold. Parks have food options from to indifferent to the sublime (Luxembourg, Tuileries, Palais-Royal).

            Bon voyage!

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            1. re: vincentinparisandrome
              John Talbott Feb 20, 2010 02:49 PM

              "Sounds to me like you need a brasserie" If it's that, I'd thot of the both the Lorraine (which also is part of a chain, the Blanc Bros, which IMHO has driven its quality towards the mean) or the Ballon de Ternes at 103, avenue des Ternes, a bit farther from your hotel but independent.

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              Oakglen Feb 19, 2010 07:12 AM

              Del Papa is a decent Italian/Pizza place that opens at 7pm. I haven't eaten at the one near your hotel (they have three locations), but all have the same menu and pricing. It should be walkable (233 rue du Faubourg St. Honore).

              1. John Talbott Feb 16, 2010 04:07 PM

                The early part will be a problem but I'd rec (a place untasted but loved by many - the Thai - Oth Sombath and for the parents:
                Stretching and almost making it
                6.5 L'Arôme, 3, rue Saint-Philippe-du-Roule in the 8th,, closed Sundays, is a really neat looking place with upscale flowers, table clothes and glasses. I was greeted terribly warmly by Eric Martins, ex from l’Ami Marcel, who couldn’t have remembered me from there but acted glad to see me. There is an ample 33 € blackboard lunch menu with mostly terrine/type firsts except for one hot dish and thus I ordered the soup with essence of small crabs and whole mussels – fantastic. My biche bourgignon had a spectacular sauce but was both too much and too dry (but I’m finding all game dry these days so maybe it’s me). The celery mousseline with it, however, was very, very good, as was my dessert of pear in red wine and violet ice cream. The bread was either made there or a holdover from before Lionel Poilane died because it was gold standard – crisp outside and moist inside. I predict he’s going for the stars. Wine is by the bottle, glass, 25 and 46 cl pots, the cheese from MA Cantin and the coffee Illy – the guy has good providers. My bill was 50.80 €.
                ”Should one go?” Chef Pascal Bataillé, ex of Pierre Gagnaire, has got it pretty much right, let’s give him another try.

                John Talbott

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                  mangeur Feb 16, 2010 05:23 PM

                  I almost suggested L'Arome. It has some pluses: I have seen children there several times and first dinner sitting is 7:30. However, our tabs have seemed high compared to either food or general enjoyment of the evening.. You can check out the menu here: http://www.larome.fr/

                  1. re: John Talbott
                    nealster Feb 19, 2010 04:35 AM

                    Great, thanks John, detailed review, sounds like a winner. We'd be fine with going a bit later (e.g., 730 or 8 pm) if you had some additional recommendations in the area!

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                      John Talbott Feb 19, 2010 08:14 AM

                      It's a bit of a culinary dessert over there; nothing ese springs to mind. At the top of the Rue de Courcelles is a nifty place Le Clocher Pereire and down at Ternes, Rech but may be too far to push a pousette:

                      Le Clocher Pereire
                      42, bvd Pereire 17th, (Metro: Pereire )
                      Closed Saturdays and Sundays
                      Lunch menu 17, dinner 29 and 38, a la carte 35-50 €.

                      62, ave des Ternes,17th (Metro: Ternes)
                      Closed Saturday lunch and Sundays
                      A la carte about 50-60 €.


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