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Need help! Pick 4 of these restaurants...

First of all, hi. My wife and I will be visiting from San Francisco for 6 days/5 nights in NYC for our honeymoon. This entire trip is pretty much all about food and it is my first time there! She is pregnant (will be about 3 months in when we're there) so this will be our last big trip and food splurge for a LONG time. I'm having trouble deciding how to narrow down our fine dining dinner destinations so here I am, because I trust the 'Hounds :)

Anyway, pick 4. Momofuku Ko already gets the 5th spot!

Daniel
Le Bernardin
Mesa Grill
Babbo
Convivio
Jean Georges
WD-50
Craft

I think Le Bernardin is a fish-centric restaurant? Again, prego wife over here so no raw fish, and not a lot of cooked fish either. Do restaurants usually have a problem with substitutes in a tasting menu?

I'm purposely leaving Per Se off this list because it's a little TOO pricey. Besides, we have The French Laundry over here.

Here are the other lunch joints and smaller bites we have in mind:

Spotted Pig
Peter Luger
Gramercy Tavern
Gray's Papaya
Momofuku Ssam Bar (pork buns)
Momofuku Milk Bar
Balthazar (fries)
Blue Ribbon Brasserie (roasted bone marrow + oxtail marmalade)
Shopsin's (ebelskivers)
Red Cat (tempura fried bacon)
Daisy Mays BBQ (beef ribs)
Choice Market (BLT)
Stand (toasted marshmallow shake)
Five Guys
Five Points Restaurant (yukon gold potato pizza)
Lombardi's or Grimaldi's
Nicky's Vietnamese sandwiches
Prune (bacon and marmalade sandwich)
I Trulli (orecchiette with rabbit ragu)
E.A.T (grilled cheese sandwich and tuscan peasant soup)
Katz's Deli
Burger Joint at Le Parker Meridien (our hotel)
Norma's at Le Parker Meridien
Ping's Seafood (dim sum)
Kossar's Bialys
Pearl Oyster Bar (NE clam chowder)
Brooklyn Bagel or Ess-A-Bagel
Karavas Place (gyros)

Obviously we won't hit all of these places, but narrowing down this list won't be as hard. Still, suggestions are welcome.

Thanks!

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  1. Le Bernardin is excellent, but I wouldn't go in your circumstances. They have a few non-fish dishes, but what's the point? I personally do not like Babbo or Jean Georges. You have left off what is now the best restaurant in NYC, Eleven Madison Park. I would go to WD-50 just to have the experience. Bon app├ętit.

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    1. re: beaulieu

      Toss out Mesa Grill, pretty mediocre. Also, I agree with beaulieu's EMP recommendation. Not to be missed if you're looking for fine dining in nyc.

      1. re: ChiefHDB

        OK, Mesa Grill and Craft were already tossed out since they have location in Vegas and LA, respectively. EMP is IN.

        I think Jean Georges and WD-50 are also in. Down to one! I was thinking Babbo to change it up from the French/New American fare, but people here don't seem to think much of it. What is your choice for Italian?

        1. re: kimchee411

          Del Posto, Alto or Felidia would be better choices than Babbo, but there is still no great Italian restaurant in NYC.

          1. re: beaulieu

            What other cities in the U.S. do you think have better Italian restaurants than NYC? Just curious.

            1. re: uwsister

              I guess I should have said that I don't know of any great Italian restaurants in the U.S. But there should be one in NYC; the audience is ready.

              1. re: uwsister

                I think A16 comes pretty close to the best Italian I've had in the states. I've been craving buffalo mozzarella ever since I left Naples and it's the only place that's come close to re-creating that beautiful memory.

                1. re: saraheartsny

                  In SF, I believe Quince is much better than A16, but it probably depends on what you are looking for. For anything but pizza I'd sat Quince, particularly their pastas. For pizza, I actually prefer Defina, but mainly for their crust.

              2. re: kimchee411

                I'm not sure why you think Babbo is not thought of highly here. Although I have never been (no reservations telephone tango for me!), there are a boatload of Chowhounds who rave about it.

                For upscale Italian, I like Alto.

                Alto photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                For slightly more casaul, I like Maialino.

                Maialino photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                and here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                I'll throw in a culinary curveball. Seasonal serves superb Austrian cuisine. Excellent service and lovely atmospherics. Open just over a year, they've been deserved awarded a Michelin star.

                Seasonal photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                Good move including EMP, our favorite NYC restaurants. Photos of the 11-course Gourmand dinner we had there a couple of weeks ago can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                1. re: RGR

                  EMP and Seasonal are great suggestions.

                2. re: kimchee411

                  Babbo gets very positive reports on CH, but I prefer Convivio. I think you should add Degustation to the list. WD-50 is worth trying, though one visit was enough for us, as I felt it was overpriced. Drop Mesa Grill, keep J-G.

                  1. re: kimchee411

                    i would also consider scarpetta - wonderful food and beautiful atmosphere.

                  2. re: ChiefHDB

                    The thing with all these places is that it's kind of like throwing a rock at the broad side of a barn...you can't miss! They're all delicious. But since you're visiting, try out some of the NY originals on your list like Grimaldi's, Katz's, Ess-A-Bagel, Luger's, Mesa Grill and the Spotted Pig.

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                    1. re: ChiefHDB

                      Agree on Mesa Grill. Reliable for a business lunch but that is about it.

                    2. re: beaulieu

                      Agreed - sub out Mesa Grill and replace it with Eleven Madison Park.

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                      Eleven Madison Park
                      11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

                      Mesa Grill
                      102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                    3. Just came back from NYC visit. Another Italian place to consider is Scarpetta on w14th. Recommended by CH posters and did not disappoint. Had one of the best pasta dishes in my life there (rabbit with cavatelli)

                      1. I agree with Scarpetta. This place is truly magnificent. As for your lunch spots, Shake Shack or BLT Burger are a must try! Lucali in Carrol Gardens is also worth the trip.. I think it's better than Lombardi's and Grimaldi's! Have fun!

                        1. As for your small bites....skip Five Guys (its a small step up from mcdonalds), skip gray's papaya (overrated). Also skip Le Bernardin...its basically all fish so no point in going.

                          I would say try Alto. And I enjoyed Jean Georges when I went. Definitely do EMP. I've never been to w-d 50 but am dying to go!

                          1. As a San Franciscan living in New York, I'd say don't bother going to Ping's seafood for dim sum. While I've personally never been, I've had dim sum at a few other well-regarded places in nyc, and I don't think anything even comes close to what we have in SF. On another note, I really enjoy Babbo, so if you can get a reservation I say go for it.

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                            1. re: mcm1900

                              As another Bay Area person, I'd like to make comment.
                              I think the Italian restaurants in NY are great and are often where we head in the City.
                              We love Lupa (much less formal than Babbo), Grammercy Tavern and always stop in at Pearl Oyster Bar for a lobster roll the likes of which you don't get in SF.

                            2. OK, some comments on your longer list:

                              Gray's Papaya - not impressed

                              Momofuku Ssam Bar (pork buns) - I really like the Ssam Bar. I've only been there dinner and late nights, though.

                              Momofuku Milk Bar - I love the Milk bar. You eat standing there; no place to sit.

                              Balthazar (fries) - I wouldn't go there just for fries, though their frites are excellent. And unless you go for an early breakfast, you'll want to get reservations. It felt like a real Parisian bistro to me when I went there last Columbus Day (I think it was).

                              Five Points Restaurant (yukon gold potato pizza) - Good brunch place. I haven't had that pizza, though.

                              Lombardi's or Grimaldi's - Grimaldi's, at its best, is (or at least was, the last time I went some years ago) excellent, but you have to go when the oven is really hot, and forget Lombardi's: They're living off hype and tourism. There are many better pizzerias. It really depends what style you're looking for. We've got Neapolitan-style (for example, Keste - I haven't tried Motorino yet, but it also gets a lot of love here), coal-fired New York style (for example, Patsy's in East Harlem and Arturo's on West Houston St.), and several good full-service Italian restaurants that also make excellent brick-oven, wood-fired pizza (for example, Giorgione in far west Soho and Cacio e Vino in the East VIllage, but there are others). Do a search on "pizza" and read through some of the discussions and arguments.

                              Nicky's Vietnamese sandwiches - I haven't been there, but there's pretty wide agreement, I think, that Banh Mi Saigon Bakery on Mott St. between Grand and Hester is the best in Manhattan.

                              Katz's Deli - A few hounds think people go to Katz's only to eat nostalgia, but man is their pastrami great! And their brisket, if you order it juicy, isn't far behind.

                              Ping's Seafood (dim sum) - I concur with the other Bay Area folks. I'm a New Yorker, but my brother and some friends live in the Bay Area, so I've been to Hong Kong Flower Garden in Millbrae, and to find something like that, you have to take a pretty long subway ride into Brooklyn or Queens. There are a couple of relatively reasonably-priced good dim sum houses in Manhattan (I don't remember having been to Ping's, so I'm not including them), but even the expensive dim sum at Chinatown Brasserie didn't impress my brother. So don't bother with dim sum while you're here.

                              If you do want to have Chinese food here, we have some very good Sichuan-style restaurants, at least one cheap Cantonese place that serves excellent roast duck (I'm thinking of Great NY Noodletown), and at least one Cantonese banquet restaurant that has high peaks (South China Garden) in Manhattan, but in general, my feeling is, if you want the best and most interesting Chinese food New York has to offer, you should figure on taking trips to Flushing, Queens, and search for information on the Outer Boroughs board. You can get delicious Sichuan, Hunan, Qindao-style, Cantonese, and various other regional styles there, some of which you might not find in SF.

                              1. Di Fara's for pizza. The ingredients are better quality than Grimaldi's. The best Sicilian square in New York.

                                As for dim sum, I LOVE Chinatown Brasserie. I have many relatives up and down the coast of California, lived in LA and have eaten dim sum in LA, SF, Vancouver, Toronto, Shanghai, Taipei and have not eaten any dim sum that would put CB to shame.

                                Not that the state of Chinese cuisine is great in NYC but SF Chinese food is over hyped.
                                If anyone is unimpressed with the dim sum at CB, then they have ventured on a bad night or are simply price sensitive. CB is great for lunch, lotus wrapped sticky rice is comfort food elevated to perfection.

                                Daisy May is not NY's best BBQ nor their best beef rib. The short ribs I have had at Fette Sau and Smoke Joint have been superior.

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                                1. re: Pookipichu

                                  Well, I had what I thought was a great meal at Chinatown Brasserie, but my brother, who lives in SF, didn't think it was any better than the much cheaper Hong Kong Flower Garden, which serves excellent, more traditional fare in Millbrae. So it depends on your perspective.

                                  1. re: Pan

                                    SF people in general, that I have met, tend to think very highly of all cuisine in their city... it's a quaint town with some very good food but sometimes not as good as they think. I have disagreements with my relatives about this.. perhaps it's a west coast/east coast thing and price does play a factor because my relatives will often say, "oh this place food much better, that place too expensive" without regard to which restaurant is actually better, regardless of perceived value.

                                    As for Hong Kong Flower Garden, if it's the place I'm thinking of, I was not impressed at all. Tacky, PF Chang-ish decor and the food presentation cannot even compare. I didn't pay so I can't speak on value.

                                    Of all the dim sum I've had in SF, Good Luck, Yank Sing, Golden Mountain, Koi Palace, none of them have blown me away. The first time I had taro swan at CB, I was blown away. Even in terms of non dim sum, the Peking duck at CB is miles better than the PD at Yank Sing, etc.

                                    The dim sum at CB is haute cuisine. Yes the price is extremely high, but at the end of the day, it should be respected for what they accomplish. Whether it is worth it is up to the eater.

                                    If Nobu can charge $25 for three small pieces of cod and six cold, square, mealy french fries, if Di Fara can charge $5 for a small slice of dough and cheese, if Norma's can charge $20 for scrambled eggs, people should not complain about the gorgeous, delicate dumplings at CB.

                                    1. re: Pookipichu

                                      They also serve great cocktails.

                                      I've had plenty of great dim sum in Malaysia and also a few great dim sum meals in shorter visits to Singapore, Bangkok, Hong Kong, and Guangzhou, for what it's worth, so perhaps I was lucky at Hong Kong Flower Garden or perhaps it's deteriorated, but I thought its dim sum was solidly good for the U.S.

                                      I do agree with your view of Chinatown Brasserie, but some SF-area folks aren't impressed, and we might as well face that as a possibility for our original poster.

                                2. i won't be much help because i've only been to babbo, craft, and le bernadin from the restaurants you mentioned but le bernadin is primarily a seafood restaurant. i would definately cross it out, the only dishes that wowed me there were seafood. i've also heard the wd 50 is inconsistent.
                                  out of the three that i've tried i personally was wowed the most by babbo. if u go definately get the maple cheesecake and bbq octupus.

                                  1. If your wife doesn't care for fish, that would rule out Le Bernardin. Otherwise, there is a whole lot more to eat there than raw fish. And the food is sublime.

                                    Ping's has gone WAY downhill, and afaik, it is/was a seafood place. At least, that's why we went there! If you're from San Francisco, I'd omit Chinese restaurants from your NY list. You have better places at home.

                                    I think Babbo's food is pretty spectacular, but the noise level is terrible. Your pregnant wife might not appreciate that. Felidia has great Italian food, (one of my fave places) but the emphasis is on NorthEastern Italy, which is not your traditional tomato based cuisine... depends upon what you are looking for.

                                    I would eliminate WD-50 from the list, but I don't care for "chemical cooking." And I wouldn't think that would be any better a choice for a prognant woman than raw fish. OTOH, Americans are (imho) FAR too paranoid about what women shouldn't eat whhile pregnant, but I see lots of them eating ammonia laced beef in fast food burger joints.....

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                                    1. re: ChefJune

                                      Raw fish is okay to eat while pregnant, just not raw fish with high mercury content, and not raw shellfish.

                                    2. your smaller bites list seems good.
                                      here are some tips of the places I tried
                                      Shopsin's-get a milkshake, i had the nutella mocha and it was the best milkshake I've ever had. I did not think their blisters for my sister dish and sliders were that good. I did like the mac and cheese french toast though.
                                      For pizza I really like Bleecker St for their nonna maria and grandma slice. Artichoke's square slice is also good even though square slices aren't my thing.
                                      Katz's Deli-I suggest you sample the meats brisket, pastrami, corned beef, tongue, etc before buying. A lot of people love the pastrami, but sometimes I don't taste much flavor other than fat. So check beforehand. When the pastrami is on, my favorite sandwich is the pastrami reuben, ask the guy at the counter to grill the rye bread it makes the sandwich better. If the pastrami isn't on I like their corned beef reuben or chopped liver sandwich. I also suggest stopping by Russ and Daughters (super heebster!) because it is right near Katz.
                                      Kossar's Bialy-I think you have to bring the bialy back home and toast it. If you don't want to do that you should go early around when they open so the bialy is really fresh and there's no need to do that. BTW though known for their bialys, I think the best bagel I ever had was from Kossar's. Also Donut Plant is right next door. If you stop by I recommend the creme brulee, coconut custard, peanut butter and jelly, carrot cake, and tres leches.
                                      Momofuku milk bar-I really don't like this place at all, but some people do. If you stop by I suggest just getting one item and if you don't like it, don't waste your appetite or money. I'd suggest walking a bit to chickalicious or spot (i think their best items are their ice cream and I think they are weaker in cookies and cupcakes but I haven't tried too many)

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                                      1. re: daffyduck

                                        I've never had bad pastrami at Katz's. If you don't like the piece the counterman gives you as a sample, explain why and ask him to get another slab.

                                      2. Skip Norma's and Lombardi's/Grimaldi's. For pizza, I recommend Franny's in Brooklyn. Also recommend Peter Luger, Grammercy Tavern (for lunch or dinner), Shake Shack, Prune, and Lupa (Batali restaurant but not as fancy as Babbo). Go to Blue Ribbon for a very late nite meal (open till 4 a.m.). On your next trip to NYC when your wife isn't pregnant, definitely go to Le Bernardin!

                                        1. For your dinner spots I would definitely recommend these four- Craft, Babbo, Convivio, and Daniel. Have not been to the others but these are all great.

                                          For you lunch spots- Peter Luger of course and Shopsin's are musts.

                                          1. Wow, thanks everyone for your responses! This is extremely helpful. So, things have changed a bit. This is what we're looking at:

                                            Lunch:
                                            Peter Luger
                                            Jean Georges
                                            Eleven Madison Park
                                            Gramercy Tavern

                                            Dinner:
                                            Babbo
                                            Momofuku Ko
                                            Seasonal
                                            Daniel
                                            (TBD)

                                            Help me figure out that TBD? I was thinking something a bit cheaper like Ssam bar or Fette Sau, but reasonable fine dining works too (< $50 pp food only).

                                            Then there's the great pizza debate. Boy, you New Yorkers do have a lot of "favorites"! At this point I'm thinking maybe inserting Lucali in that TBD above. Is it worth going to Brooklyn and waiting hours for? Sorry, going to Lombardi's for a night time pie to take back to the hotel the night before we leave, end of story. I was thinking Keste as well for an afternoon meal. One more place in Manhattan - John's, Nick's, or Patsy's? Di Fara also has a tremendous reputation, but it's pretty far. Of course, if it really is a must I will comply.

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                                            1. re: kimchee411

                                              I see you're going to EMP for lunch. I strongly urge you to do the 5-course Gourmand. Always exquisite!

                                              Photos of our most recent lunch Gourmand: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                                              Glad you're including Seasonal. We had dinner there again this past weekend, and the food was every bit as delicious as the first time.

                                              Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                                              For the TBD, I would suggest Aldea. Delicious Portuguese-inspired cuisine. Don't miss Chef Mendes' signature arroz de pato!

                                              Photos of our two dinners at Aldea can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                                              and here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391...

                                              N.B. If you decide to go to Ssam Bar for dinner, be prepared for uncomfortable seating, i.e., hard benches without backs, and an insanely high noise level that makes normal conversation vitually impossible.

                                              1. re: RGR

                                                NB In my experience, if you sit at the counter, the stools there are also wooden but it's a little less loud and IMO a little bit more comfortable than the big tables in the back. There are also some 2-4 tops in the front which are more spacious/less loud.

                                              2. re: kimchee411

                                                I just returned from a trip to NYC and had lunch at Jean Georges and EMP. Both were outstanding and I felt almost like I had stolen something when I settled my tab. I also went to a Japanese restaurant as the places that are available to me where I live are very disappointing. The omakase at the sushi bar at 15 East was very good. Yasuda was also high on my list. I didn't go out for pizza but I regret not having tried Motorino. They are located at 349 E. 12th Street (between 1st and 2nd). If it's pizza you want, I strongly suggest this place. I also spent some time in Chinatown eating my fill of soup dumplings and ending up at The Great New York Noodletown for duck with flowering chives.

                                                I thoroughly enjoyed a dinner at Ssam. The food was very good and they have an exciting cocktail program. Locanda Verde was on my list of reasonably priced places but I ran out of time. It is the new home of Andrew Carmelini and has gotten great press.

                                                1. re: deesher

                                                  Not sure if your trip is already over, but I also highly recommend 15 East. Sit at the sushi bar closest to the window, by Chef Masa and order the sushi omakase. Experience not to be missed. I rarely visit a restaurant twice in NYC since there are so many to pick from, but my goal is to be a regular at 15 East, so long as my wallet doesn't start complaining. I wouldn't bother with the cooked food, even though it is tasty. I like 15 East over Yasuda. In my mind, sushi dining experience can't get better than this!

                                                  My other favourite NYC restaurant is Crispo for Italian. I haven't been following what others have to say about it recently but they have an all-season garden, half-order pastas and great service.

                                                2. re: kimchee411

                                                  Wow. Fun list. I've been to Lugers, JG, EMP, Babbo, Ko, and Daniel. However, I do have to throw in a vote for WD-50. Definitely get the tasting menu - I'd suggesting swapping the "eggs benedict" for the scrambled egg course. They do let you swap out stuff. Also, note, if you like chef spotting - who doesn't - you are almost guaranteed to see Wylie back there in the kitchen.

                                                  WD-50's tasting menu is fun and playful - you won't find anything else quite like it.

                                                  BTW, I love Babbo, but that's because I love great pasta.

                                                  In terms of variety, I sort of think that with JG, EMP and Daniel that you've got the French/French-influenced cuisine covered, so tossing WD-50 into the mix would I think give you a more interesting mix.

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                                                  WD-50
                                                  50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                                                  Babbo
                                                  110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                                                  1. re: kimchee411

                                                    Scarpetta!

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                                                    Scarpetta
                                                    355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

                                                  2. My only additional suggestion is that to consider the neighborhoods. Yes, its all about the food, but given your large list and its your first trip - maybe thinking about seeing all the different areas will help narrow your choices.

                                                    I agree with everyone who suggested EMP (Flatiron/Gramercy). As for Jean Georges (UWS/columbus circle), I quite enjoyed it for dinner, but I have seen many Chowhounds recommend the lunch option which seems to be a great way to enjoy some of the best dishes and cut costs.

                                                    If you get the reservation at Momofuku Ko (East Village) - awesome. Though let them know your wife is preggie if they do substitutions otherwise not every dish will be for her. I did the wine pairing (the mid priced one) with it and found it enjoyable.

                                                    I also loved WD-50 and the mellower vibe might be a nice contrast to the more formal dining experiences you are having at EMP et al. Plus, its in the lower east side so it will take you to a different cool neighborhood. There is a cool artisanal drink place you could hit first - Apotheke in Chinatown. Even though your wife can't drink, its a cool spot and they can make her a non-alcoholic concoction. And given your food interest, you will definitely enjoy.

                                                    A suggestion if you have Gramercy Tavern - if you don't have time to eat there, i love to go there just for a dessert wine and dessert (and/or cheese). Even at the bar, their staff/service is fantastic and knowledgeable.

                                                    I personally thought Convivio was overrated, but i agree with everyone to ditch Mesa from your list first.

                                                    If you are interested in Craft, he just opened up Collichio & Sons (chelsea) which i believe is getting good reviews. I'm slated to try next week. Otherwise Craftbar is also a good option too (flatiron).

                                                    Momofuku milk bar is cute, though i think overrated as well but the homey desserts may just be what your wife is craving while she is preggie. If you make to Ssam, you might as well try it right after since they are connected. Otherwise, they have another more asian-inspired dessert place aroudn the corner called Chikalicious you may want to try.

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                                                    WD-50
                                                    50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                                                    Gramercy Tavern
                                                    42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

                                                    Jean Georges
                                                    1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

                                                    Momofuku Ko
                                                    163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                                    Convivio
                                                    45 Tudor City Place, New York, NY 10017

                                                    Apotheke
                                                    9 Doyers St, New York, NY 10013

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                                                    1. re: ps22

                                                      Momofuku Ko will definitely make substitutions if there are certain foods that your wife can't eat provided you let them know when you make your reservation (they're actually very nice about it). I believe Ko now offers only one price wine pairing (no more three price choices).

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                                                      Momofuku Ko
                                                      163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                                    2. Anyway, pick 4. Momofuku Ko already gets the 5th spot!

                                                      Daniel
                                                      Le Bernardin
                                                      Mesa Grill
                                                      Babbo
                                                      Convivio
                                                      Jean Georges
                                                      WD-50
                                                      Craft

                                                      Okay. Cut out mesa grill. Definitely Daniel, not le bernardin under such circumstances (about a third or half of the meal is somewhat raw in my experiences). Jean Georges yes. Then, I would say Eleven Madison Park. And.... if you can... per se? Unless if you are going all out i would remove some from the lunch options and go to per se.

                                                      I hope you enjoy your honeymoon!

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                                                      WD-50
                                                      50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                                                      Eleven Madison Park
                                                      11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

                                                      Babbo
                                                      110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                                                      Jean Georges
                                                      1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

                                                      Le Bernardin
                                                      155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

                                                      Mesa Grill
                                                      102 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                                                      Momofuku Ko
                                                      163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                                      Convivio
                                                      45 Tudor City Place, New York, NY 10017

                                                      1. As an SF foodie...
                                                        WD50 appealed to me bc it seemed like an interesting experience. it was slightly interesting but i wouldn't do it again. here's why...

                                                        the tasting menu was way too long and the wine pairings were not really up to snuff. they paired 1 wine with 2 different courses- to me that's not pairing... but then again, i am from SF.

                                                        taste-wise: only a few things were interesting molecular gastonomy wise... the rest, i dont know if it was prepared in a MG fashion.

                                                        im going to pings in an hour... i'll let you know how it goes.

                                                        my BF says daniel is worth it. i haven't been...

                                                        1. I assume you've already come and gone but would have cautioned you that there is no place to sit at Momofuku Milk Bar, probably not a good idea for a pregnant woman.

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                                                          1. re: Pan

                                                            Wrong! you can sit on top of the table