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No Reservations: Hudson Valley

californiabeerandpizza Feb 10, 2010 06:41 AM

Kind of a mediocre No Res I thought. Some parts were interesting, others were not. Would have liked more footage of Tony and Ruhlman getting after it in the CIA kitchens.

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    hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 10, 2010 07:13 AM

    I think we made posts on this at the same time. I'm from the area and was very disappointed. They didn't capture the essence of the area. A big failure on their part if you ask me.

    I'm assuming you are from CA based on your screen name. Did this episode make you want to travel to the Hudson Valley?

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    1. re: hudsonvalleyfoodblog
      californiabeerandpizza Feb 10, 2010 07:30 AM

      I've been living in CA for 30 years but I grew up in Springfield MA and every summer vacation was a drive to Central N.Y. and back so I'm somewhat familiar with the general area.
      I didn't know that there is a sailing culture along the Hudson River, which I think is interesting and I had never seen, or heard of, that old resort they were doing The Shinning take off on.
      I do like visiting Cooperstown every few years so it's not impossible that I would plan a side excursion based on this episode but I wouldn't base a whole trip around it.
      I did enjoy seeing the growlers of local beer at the backyard BBQ.

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      toncasmo Feb 10, 2010 08:12 AM

      i loved that little girl giving him s--t
      but i didn't really get a feel for the valley and that's why i watched

      1. raidar Feb 10, 2010 06:44 PM

        I watched this back to back with the Prague episode, so I couldn't figure out which one was better. Prague had pig and beer, and Hudson Valley had Bill Murray.

        The young girl was annoying, and over the top (did they need to fill space), while the crab boil seemed pretty basic chat. The land looks beautiful, but it didn't create a desire to go. Oh well. Next week - Ecuador.

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          Janet Feb 10, 2010 11:09 PM

          My husband and I are from the South and have lived in the San Francisco area for the last 25 years. We really loved this show. We now want to visit the Hudson Valley. The show gave us history, interesting food ( we didn't know blue crabs were that far inland) a floating hot dog stand. Fun. The area was stunningly beautiful.

          We agree the little girl was just annoying. Children should be seen not heard.

          Agree the 10 year old was a brat.

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            hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 11, 2010 06:38 AM

            I'm really glad this show peaked your interest in the area. It's a really interesting part of the country. The Hudson is actually brackish water as far as 60 miles north of NYC. It used to be filled with oysters before pollution destroyed the population. I put together my own concept for the show if you are interested in checking it out.


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              pacheeseguy Feb 11, 2010 05:31 PM

              Did anyone else want to see him slam her into the tree while
              she was on the swing?

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                Janet Feb 11, 2010 11:08 PM

                Oh yes.

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              nemis Feb 11, 2010 05:19 AM

              I thought the show was horrible, really a shame too. The scenery was nice, they treated the CIA as a joke. Perhaps 2 smart remarks from the girl would have been "cute" but that was WAY too redundant, pathetic really.
              They really made me believe that the Hudson Valley didn't have much to offer. I will say the food that Bourdain and Murray ate did look quite tasty and the Chef's backyard feast would have been a real treat.

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                hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 11, 2010 06:40 AM

                X20 did look great I just have a problem with them going to Yonkers as part of the Hudson Valley. I guess technically it could be considered the Hudson Valley but I think you'd be hard pressed to find one Yonkers resident who refers to their area as the Hudson Valley. He should have focused on locations north of Westchester County.

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                comestible Feb 11, 2010 07:48 AM

                I didn't see this particular show (maybe it will re-run again) but if they didn't make the area sound interesting, they didn't work hard enough. I've seen a food magazine from up there (Hudson Valley Table?) that showcases the local food, wine and restaurants, and it seems there's plenty to experience. Not to mention it's just beautifully scenic.

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                  hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 11, 2010 07:57 AM

                  Yes, Hudson Valley Table is a really nice publication. I think they re-run the previous weeks episode each Monday at 9 PM ET. So you should be able to catch it next week.

                  I think the thing that bugged me the most is that all of his other shows get me so excited about a place, even Buffalo NY looked cool. No offense to Buffalo.

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                    comestible Feb 11, 2010 08:02 AM

                    I'm a native of Buffalo (though I've lived in the NYC area for 30 years now), and I think they did a creditable job up there.

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                      hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 11, 2010 09:20 AM

                      Cool, glad I didn't offend anyone from Buffalo.

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                  chorosch Feb 11, 2010 08:30 AM

                  It wasn't their finest show.... I thought maybe Bourdain got grouchy so they gave him a softball he could do from home.

                  With that said, there were definitely compelling segments. I was fascinated by the Victorian Quaker hotel. Would have enjoyed more at the CIA.

                  I don't think it really captured the spirit of the Hudson Valley (Yonkers?) but was intended more as a sort of extension of NYC.

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                    NealR2000 Feb 11, 2010 09:38 AM

                    The kid was cute, but they stayed on her way too long.

                    All in all, it was a fairly good episode. Not great and not bad. Prague was bad.

                    The green-glowing nuclear facility was not necessary. France is totally nuclear and there's no nuclear jokes when he goes there. The Hudson is remarkably clean these days. When Tony is in his favorite area, Asia, he swoons over even the most ordinary dish. You can tell that he doesn't really like the USA. If you want to talk about polution ... particularly river polution ... then no-one can compete with the filthy rivers and canals of Asia.

                    I'm not so sure about this new season. They seem to have moved away from the introspective Tony, with his witty observations, and replaced it with being about Tony and fuelling the character they think they have created. It's a fine line, I know, but they crossed it. The show is now the Tony Bourdain show, with the location being almost a footnote.

                    I've also noticed that Tony is verbally brilliant when he's in the company of lesser intellectuals, but he seems to get uncomfortable when he's not. He finds it easy to play the Keith Richards of food most of the time, but put him with certain people, including that kid, and he's way off.

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                      chorosch Feb 11, 2010 10:07 AM

                      That's a good observation. The only episode this season I've really liked was the one in Brittany... Tony seemed liked he was really enjoying himself and the places they visited were beautiful. All the other episodes so far have felt very forced. I wonder if the producers are leaning on him to change the focus of the show, as you suggest. It just doesn't feel the same somehow.

                      1. re: chorosch
                        NealR2000 Feb 11, 2010 10:36 AM

                        Yes, I agree. The Brittany episode was wonderful. The rest? Substandard. Now the shows from all the previous series, I can, and do, watch them multiple times.

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                        hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 16, 2010 09:37 AM

                        Some good observations. I've been thinking about this show for a while and came to the conclusion that he covered the Hudson Valley like a Manhattanitte that never leaves the island. Almost like he was shocked to find it wasn't only suburban developments and strip malls. He seemed to be the kind of New Yorker that considers the Bronx "upstate".

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                        leslieinGA Feb 16, 2010 06:32 PM

                        Did anyone else notice that Tony and Rulman didn't get along very well? On Rulman's blog, he didn't seem to fond of Tony.

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                        1. re: leslieinGA
                          Miss Needle Feb 16, 2010 06:50 PM

                          To me it looks like they get along extremely well and have good chemistry. I think they just like to rib each other in good fun.

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                            hudsonvalleyfoodblog Feb 17, 2010 05:09 AM

                            I think he was just kidding.

                          2. DallasDude Feb 16, 2010 07:36 PM

                            Clever back story concerning Bill Murray that some may want to see.


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