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Feb 3, 2010 03:36 PM

sf visitor looking for great burger in pub/bar/casual rest bar and good bowl of pho

Here the week of feb 8 staying near 44th and 5th. Dont need a place close but just in case. Dont want a twenty dollar and up burger at a nice restaurant bar just something good that has beer/wine and or spirits. Several decent pho spots in sf any in manhattan?

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  1. Try Shake Shack on the Upper West Side or Burger Joint inside the Parker Meridien hotel on 56th (i think). Both very casual but great burgers and they have alcohol!

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    1. re: stephaniec25

      Sorry should have been more specific have been to both and liked the burger but looking for more of a pub/bar atmosphere during lunch time

      1. re: mick

        You were very specific I think people just recommend those places in a sort of rote manner. For a big juicy pub burger I would say Molly's is a good choice. 3rd avenue just south of 23rd street which would be a quick walk if it were warmer but a cab wouldn't be too pricey and the 6 train can get you there quickly. Your alcohol selection will be limited to the typical Irish Pub stuff.

        A place with a great beer selection near your hotel is Rattle N Hum on 33rd between Madison and Fifth. They have a great microbrew selection and their burgers are good but not great. Still it is passable and a good place to try some local brews like Captain Lawrence, Sixpoint, Bluepoint, Brooklyn etc. They get crowded after work on Friday but the rest of the weekend you should be fine.

        Depending on where you are going to be I could recommend additional spots to grab a quality beverage to get away from the cold.

        Manhattan has some decent Pho but to be honest nothing great. I have not been to SF in about 10 years so I can't compare the current noodle soup scene but NYC currently has good Ramen, and in Chinatown handpulled noodles. I also like the soups at Bo Ky on a cold day. They do Chaozhou style soups, the fish dumpling soup w mustard greens is a steal for $5 and there shacha sauce is good.

        Good luck and enjoy your time in NYC

        1. re: MVNYC

          Thanks for the info,would like some recommendations for a few place to get out of the cold and have a drink. Location in Manhattan doesn't matter but I'll be on my own and need a daytime/afternoon spot.

          1. re: mick

            dba in the East Village is my favorite bar. Great list of beers on tap, large selection of single malts, tequilas, etc.

            1. re: Peter Cherches

              I second that suggestion, if the OP is looking to separate their eating from their drinking.

              1. re: Peter Cherches

                Agreed, DBA on First ave and Second Street is a great spot for an afternoon beer. Grab a bar stool by the window and you have good people watching too. They do not serve food but thay actually works to your advantage as you can bring in lunch. I am not sure how you feel about smoked/cured fish but you are near one of the great NYC institutions Russ and Daughters. If going to DBA I would highly recommend bringing in lunch from R&D. If so go for an open faced bagel(so you can get two kinds of fish and its easier to eat) with Nova and Sable or any other kinds you might like. I am partial to belly lox but this is somewhat of an acquired taste. R&D is a couple of blocks away on Houston st.

                DBA itself usually has two beers on cask as well as a good tap and bottle selection. As Peter said they also have a great spirit selection.

                If you are in the West Village, Blind Tiger on Bleeker Street is arguably the city's best beer bar. They usually have the best selection and the food is good here too(get the bloody beast, roast beef with a fiery tomato dipping sauce). I like them on cold days as they have a working fire place. It is good in the afternoon but can get very crowded at night.

                Hope this helps.

            2. re: MVNYC

              Also if in the DBA area you can get a good bowl of Ramen at Setagaya on First ave and Ninth street and then walk down the block to DBA or vice versa.

              Plenty of good eats around there.

              1. re: MVNYC

                Another good place to pick up food to bring to dba is Caracas Arepa Bar.

                1. re: Peter Cherches

                  Somehow almost every time I go to dba I stop by Tuck Shop. If not Tuck Shop, then Katz's.

        2. Walkers, Molly's for burger. I think Mondays are the burger day at Rub. Nothing like these options in San Francisco.

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          1. re: sugartoof

            Waterfront Ale House is another good burger and beer selection, in a more contemporary pub.

          2. I'd try Five Napkin Burger, it seems like the new spot and I think it's over on 8th or 9th on 45th street -- I think they have a web site

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            1. re: bluehorseshoe

              5 napkins burger is not very good. The service is good, beer list decent. The house beer is weak.

              I prefer Molly's or Spotted Pig by a wide margin.

              1. re: steve h.

                Really like the Spotted Pig burger and the cheese they put on it. I know the Roquefort cheese turns a lot of people off, though. (They serve it with Roquefort or no cheese at all -- you can't get cheddar or American.) But it's lovely and not crowded at SP during the day!

                1. re: kathryn

                  The Pig can be hectic and uncomfortable during peak lunch hours. Something magical happens around 2:30 p.m.: the place seems to throttle back a bit, the palpable tension emitted by a hard-pressed staff subsides and a measure of order is restored. That's when I like to sit at the bar, have a burger with cheese and a beer. I like the string fries, too. Not as good as Zuni's (SF) but good enough. I'm also a fan of the neighborhood, maybe the best in Manhattan.

            2. The best pho I've had is the house special at Xe Lau in Chinatown. Even better, though, is the wonton noodle soup w/ roast pork at Big Wong King.

              1. what about JG Melon on 74th/3rd. It may be too out of the way but one of my favorites in the city. Small, pubby a bit of the upper east side crowd but great burgers, cottage fries, etc. Be warned, its cash only.