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What makes a good wine bar and where are the best ones in los Angeles. Bellavino is phenomenal but a little far (Westlake Village)

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  1. Enoteca Drago in Beverly Hills has a nice selection of italian wines.

    1. AOC on 3rd St. is the busiest one in LA, where reservations are generally 1-2 weeks in advance.

      1. Neither AOC or Enoteca Drago are truly wine bars. They are full service restaurants that have a large selection of wine. AOC is quite enjoyable. I would stick to wine at Enoteca Drago.

        LA doesn't have any great wine bars.

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        1. re: JudiAU

          A.O.C. is a fantastic wine bar. Great food, great service and great ambience. Enoteca is an Enoteca. Concept is that. Best selection of salami, prosciutto, cured pork, and cheeses. Very, very good daily fish, especially the crudo plates.

          I dont understand. A wine bar can not be a restaurant?

          1. re: MJY

            No. A wine bar is a wine bar. The emphasis is on wine and bar and not food. It may or may not serve food but food it not the focus.

            AOC is a restaurant that serves many wines by the glass. It serves good food. It serves good wine. I love AOC but it is not a wine bar.

            For what it is worth Suzanne Goin said the same last year in an interview.

            1. re: JudiAU

              Say what you will, Willi's has food. Le Metro in Knightsbridge has food. And they ARE wine bars. El Vino has food too.

              1. re: mc michael

                I am not sure what your point is. It is true that many wine bars serve food and I stated so before. But again, the point of a wine bar is not food but wine. AOC functions as a restaurant that serves many wines by the glass.

        2. Isn't there one in Pasadena?

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          1. re: mc michael

            Restaurant Halie (see posts), which is a restarurant with a good wine bar and Heritage (several nights a week tastings) which is a retail wine shop are good. Red Carpet in nearby Glendale, lost my business because I can never get a seat at the bar. Le Vendome in Studio City and Le Petite Vendome in La Canada have twice weekly wine tastings - they will be glad to put you on their mailing list.

            1. re: Griller141

              Red Carpet hasn't been as crowded lately and serves, bar none, the best wine in LA. Often wines of $200-300 a bottle that you normally wouldn't have a chance to taste.

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                Ross Schwartz

                At the risk of making it even more crowded, Red Carpet is at the top of my list. They pour wine you can't even buy there, just so a person can have the experience. They also have been known to pour cult wines at a pretty decent price, for the same reason.

                1. re: Ross Schwartz

                  I wonder what will be happening with Red Carpet and its tasting program once the sale of the place is completed, probably by the end of the month. Hope they do not change the tastings policy.

            2. re: mc michael

              Are you referring to the one that's part of Restaurant Halie? It's very small and cozy... I'm not a wine expert, so I can't really comment on the selection. However, there were many choices of wine by the glass to pick from. And I really enjoy the two times I've been there.

            3. Not quite a wine bar per se, but Greenblatt's on Sunset has a selection of wines on tap.