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nextguy Feb 3, 2010 06:43 AM

Hi all,

I am going to be in Vegas at the end of March and I am still trying to decide whether I should visit Robuchon or Savoy. Cost is an issue and I will probably stick with the Prix Fixe at Robuchon or the Pre Theatre at Savoy. I realize I could save money by going to L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon or eat at the bar at Savoy but I decided I really wanted to have the Michelin experience of the big restaurants. I also considered Alex, Mix, and Gagnaire but Robuchon and Savoy have always been two of the chefs that I've most followed. Given these two choices, which one offers the more solid experience?

Thanks!

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  1. Cookiefiend Feb 3, 2010 11:07 AM

    I haven't been to Guy Savoy but I have been to Joel Robouchon's The Mansion.

    It was spectacular. I'd go there again in a heart beat.
    Mr CF and I were at L'Atelier last Friday and we enjoyed it very much but it's not the Michelin experience. Every bit as delicious but much more casual and relaxed.

    1. chris2269 Feb 3, 2010 01:09 PM

      Been to both and really you can't go wrong. roll the dice and pick one it is Vegas after all :)

      I would do the Bar at Savoy and eat at Robouchon. That way you get to experience both and still get the Michelin experience. Do the bar first and if your floored go with Savoy...yeh I know I'm all over the place. At least though report back I would be interested in what you did and what you thought.

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        mindylh13 Feb 3, 2010 01:12 PM

        I would actually love to suggest for you Bouchon (Thomas Keller's Bistro) at The Venetian. I ate there last week, and it was to DIE for. Simply amazing. And VERY affordable. Two thumbs up...simple, elegantly prepared food.

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          Cookiefiend Feb 3, 2010 01:50 PM

          Bouchon is excellent - we were there Saturday night - it's all the things you say, simple and elegantly prepared food and a bit more affordable than the other two...

          but it's not Robuchon or Savoy.

          Just my 2 cents

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            chris2269 Feb 3, 2010 01:57 PM

            Yeh I love Bouchon and Daniel but mainly because they are extremely great ingredients simply prepaired. That being said I would say to really experience Thomas Keller or Daniel Boulud you really need to go to Per Se, Daniel or The french Luandry. I would stick with either Robochon or Guy Savoy...and hey if you hit it on the slots go for everything.

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          nextguy Feb 3, 2010 02:57 PM

          My plan is to actually visit Bouchon and Stripsteak. But I also wanted to visit either Robouchon or Savoy. Such a difficult decision...

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            Cookiefiend Feb 3, 2010 06:06 PM

            hummm....

            Between Bouchon and Stripsteak - I'd chose Bouchon. I've been to other Mina restaurants and haven't been wowed. I've been to Bouchon several times (breakfast and dinner) and it's very good.

            I'd like to go to Charlie Palmer's steak place in LV though... I've been to the Charlie Palmer's in Newport Beach, but that's a different animal all together.

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              chris2269 Feb 3, 2010 06:18 PM

              Just a question by CP in Newport do you mean Charlie Palmer at BloomingDales at South Coast? If so I think the lounge has great food and drinks but think Marche Moderne is a better choice. I only ask in case I missed a restaurant I did not know about. and your right Charley Palmers at the Four Seasons in Vegas gets great reviews.

              I just read my post and if I am coming off like an ass ...trust me I so do not mean too.

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                Cookiefiend Feb 4, 2010 04:05 AM

                Yes, it was the Charlie Palmer at South Coast - we loved it and I had hoped that the Charlie Palmer at the Four Seasons was the same sort of place, meaning not a steak place.

                We really enjoyed CP at South Coast and I'm certain I'd like CP in Vegas too - I just didn't feel like a steak while there. Besides that, I can get a great steak here in IN.

                Marche Moderne was on our list of places to try but at that time we couldn't get a reservation - next time!
                ps - you're not coming off like an ass - no worries!

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                  atdleft Feb 7, 2010 05:26 PM

                  Heh, I'm back in OC and will be trying Marche Moderne tomorrow! Ain't that funny?

                  When I'm back home in Vegas, I do like me some Aureole at Mandalay Bay. IMHO Aureole is Charlie Palmer's best Vegas venue and probably his best West Coast venue. (CP at SCP is good, but Aureole really takes it to the next level IMHO.)

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                nextguy Feb 4, 2010 05:20 AM

                I mean I am going to both Bouchon AND Stripsteak + either Robuchon or Savoy. In fact I wanted to go to Craftsteak instead of Stripsteak but I got a gift certificate for Stripsteak.

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                  Cookiefiend Feb 4, 2010 05:37 AM

                  oop - my bad!
                  I misunderstood!
                  If I had a gift certificate to Stripsteak - I would definitely, without fail, go there. I'd probably yell 'Booya' on the way... I never get gift certificates like that!

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                    nextguy Feb 4, 2010 08:35 AM

                    restaurant.com sells them. Plus there is a coupon code that drops the price of the $50 gift card to $4!!!

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                      uclaegygal Feb 24, 2010 03:16 PM

                      hahahaha....love it

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                zippyh Feb 3, 2010 03:26 PM

                A non-food related reason to pick Robuchon is that they include a limo to/from dinner.
                That made our evening there a little bit more fun. After dinner, you've got the choice to take the limo back immediately or they'll give you a voucher for use later that evening (or morning as the case may be).

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                  jsfoodchat Feb 7, 2010 05:07 PM

                  Since price is a factor- what about Alex at the Wynn. After I found out that Robouchon's full tasting menu was $700 USD per person (and I thought WHAT??? CRAZY TALK??? We have dined at 3 Michelin stars all over Europe including Rome and not spent that!) we looked in to fine dining alternatives. We chose Alex at the Wynn. We were not disappointed. We ordered just about everything you could possibly order (including an optional cheese course with special port for $55 pp extra) and the bill was about $900 including gratuity.

                  Highly recommended - the fois gras with quince was an especially outstanding dish and the Sommelier had the best palate I ever experienced.

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                    SDGourmand Feb 7, 2010 05:13 PM

                    robuchon's tasting is 385 for the 16 course. maybe it was 700 with wine. I would go with Robuchon over Savoy all day. Robuchon is such an intimate expirence, savoy is like dining in a empty warehouse.

                  2. atdleft Feb 7, 2010 05:45 PM

                    Wow. Tough choice. Honestly, I'll probably get around to Guy Savoy's menu first because his seems a little more approachable... But both are definitely quite high on my "to eat list"!

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                      nextguy Feb 11, 2010 06:48 AM

                      My decision is still not clear. I should elaborate and say that my budget is *only* around $500. My wife and I are not drinkers so that will save us some money. After much researching, it seems to me that Robuchon (yes I feel bad for mispelling it in the title of my post) is more about art and show whereas Savoy is more discrete with more emphasis on substance. Is that right?

                      In my price range it looks like at Savoy I could afford the Elegance menu and at Robuchon the four course menu. I have also looked at Alex and its tasting menu as well as Mix. From what I have read though, the atmosphere at Mix is more partyish and filled with clubgoers. It is tempting though with the discount gift card at restaurant.com. Alex is interesting but to be honest, I don't know a lot about Alex Stratta.

                      My biggest fear at this point really concerns the service. I know that all these restaurants (except for Mix) are Michelin starred but some people have described Robuchon as cold and unwelcoming. Savoy on the other hand has been described as more attentive but the food more traditional and maybe not so exciting. We are celebrating my wife's birthday on this night so I really want her to enjoy the evening.

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                        chris2269 Feb 11, 2010 07:02 AM

                        I think your reasoning is sound. Again either way you go you will have a great meal. Also when you make your reservation let them know it's your wifes birthday and if its something you two might enjoy ask for a tour of the kitchen. We did this for my Birthday (at Robochon but Savoy will be the same). We were treated to a piece of the best birthdaycake I have ever had, got my menu signed by the Chef. It was really cool.

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                          SDGourmand Feb 11, 2010 07:20 AM

                          I would go to Alex over Savoy. Savoy is just such a sterile uncomfortable environment IMO. Just because you don't know a lot about Alex Stratta doesn't mean you should rule him out. His restaurant has just as many Michelin stars as savoy. His restaurant is much more elegant with a real warm vibe to it.

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                            nextguy Feb 11, 2010 08:17 AM

                            What is it exactly about Savoy that you don't like? I have read that the ceilings are very high and the decor is sparse. Is that what you mean by a warehouse environment? Was there something about the service at Savoy that displeased you? Everything I have read says that the staff is very welcoming and Mr. Savoy's son makes it a point to greet all customers.

                            BTW, I realize that of all the restaurants, Alex Stratta actually does cook in the kitchen. That is a big plus. But I have followed the careers of Robuchon and Savoy for a very long time so eating at their restaurants would be special.

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                              SDGourmand Feb 11, 2010 08:40 AM

                              I've been to GS three times in the last year and a half. The service is good, the food is good not great. I'm not blown away by any of his dishes like I am at alex or robuchon. GS is a huge room that on my previous visits was completely empty besides one other table. When sitting in such a huge space practically by yourself it's hard not to feel uncomfortable. If you've been following these chefs and have yet to dine in their restaurant then by all means give it a shot. Try to get the chefs table at GS to make it that much better. When it comes down to it for me after dinning at both restaurants multiple times actually all three restaurants. I find alex to be an all around better expirence then GS. Robuchon is still at the top of my list though and will be for some time.

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                                Cookiefiend Feb 11, 2010 02:13 PM

                                Robuchon is at the top of my list as well - the food was extraordinary.

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                            trojanhorse Feb 11, 2010 04:23 PM

                            My $.02 - go to Robuchon and don't look back. It's simply on another level than anything else I've been to. The food is edible art. Service is sublime - unintrusive, polite, and almost telepathic in sensing what you need or would like. They didn't hesitate to oblige my wife's request for a kitchen tour, and answered her many questions without hurrying her at all. Decor is Parisian billionaire-with-taste mansion, it's like stepping into another world as soon as you pass the curtain. Your wife will be floored, and you'll have built up a store of good-husband points that will last for a long time.

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                              nextguy Mar 1, 2010 05:39 AM

                              I finally made a decision and chose Robuchon. My father in-law actually made the final argument that you haven't dined until you have dined at a 3 star. He lives in Paris and has eaten at several 1, 2 and 3 stars. He says the difference between each level has always been huge. Unfortunately I think I waited too long. Even though my reservation is on March 24 they only had one spot left and it is at 9:45. I am from the east coast so that is basically a dinner at 12:45!

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                                ellenost Mar 1, 2010 07:32 AM

                                I know I'm late joining this discussion, but I also prefer Alex to Robuchon. I've dined at both restaurants (Alex one night, followed by Robuchon the next night), and Alex completely blew Robuchon out of the water. I'm from NYC, and am returning to LV in mid April, and have already booked my dinner at Alex. Robuchon is fine (I've also dined at Michelin 3 star restaurants in Paris), but Alex is so much better: food, decor and service.

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