Mauviel M' Cook - Stainless Steel - 0.9-Quart Saute Pan (Actually a small saucier)
Hi, guys
I have been looking for a stainless steel saucier/sauciers long time, and the M'cook line of Mauviel has drawn my attention. I would like to buy something induction ready. Does anyone have experience specifically with this line?
In addition, they have another size of 1.7 quart of saute pan, and I do not know which size is better. Is 0.9 qt too small? I am just wondering how good they are in terms of balace on stovetop (stable enough?) as they have rounded side and long handle.
Most probably I use the saucier just warming up milk, boiling 1-2 eggs, melting butter, and making/reducing small amount of sauces - so I guess either 0.9 qt or 1.7 qt is fine.
I really want to see these and try how they feel but it is very hard to find as no big retailers carry this product line. I will figure which BBB in my neighborhood carry this tomorrow..
Thank you for your thoughts.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=16984620
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I cook for one. I'm thinking of purchasing the 1-quart saucier from CIA (Culinary Institute of America) as they have a promo price now and it's 7-ply with a copper layer. On another board, someone pointed out that it might be better to go with the larger size for more versatility, but this one feels good and I have an All-Clad 2-quart sauce pan. Any suggestions as to the 1-quart or the 2-quart?
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hobbybaker
Apr 12, 2010 04:32 PM
Depending on the uses. I have 1qt and 3qt and both are AC. I use AC 1qt for warming up milk, boiling eggs, roasting nuts, making a small sauce etc. Sometimes hate it without pouring lips or rolled rim but generally OK ( I think CIA's saucier has no rolled rim either if I am correct.) . I thought about this small mauviel pan, whose rim is rolled but the bottom diameter was too small for induction stoves and ended up with returning it. My 3 qt saucier is my go-to pan. It has rolled rim and a helper handle. Making custard, saute for two, reducing larger amount of sauces, boiling leefy vegis, and even cooking pasta. I think for those tasks, 1 qt is just too small even for one; so in general I think 2qt is more versatile but it depends on uses especially because you mainly cook for only one. So, if you feel good with the 1 qt, maybe that is it.
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re: hobbybaker
grnidkjun
Apr 13, 2010 10:10 AM
I have a couple 1 qt sauciers and pretty much that's what I use them for.. small sauce batches for pasta for two.. or soup for 1.
I have the all clad LTD and a small copper with tin lining.. both work very well and neither have a rolled rim. Handwash both, if this helps any.
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Politeness
Feb 1, 2010 12:20 PM
hobbybaker, We have the 1.7 quart size of Mauviel Induc'Inox in the "Windsor" shape (splay-sided saucepan, sometimes labeled a "fait tout"), and it is a superb cooking tool. My understanding is that M'Cook either is the new name for the same Induc'Inox line or that the M'Cook line has replaced the Induc'Inox line. They appear to be identical from external visual appearance.
As cutiepie 712 has noted, the Mauviels are a bit heavy, which aids even cooking but makes them a load to sling around. Our one reservation about our Induc'Inox pot is that the cross-sectional diameter of the handle is quite small, which does not give much leverage for torsional handling, as when tipping the pot for pouring; we would have preferred a handle with a slightly wider and less round cross-section profile. You will be able to gauge your own comfort level with this if you handle the pot in the store.
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re: Politeness
hobbybaker
Feb 1, 2010 03:03 PM
Hi, cutiepie and politeness
Thank you for your advice. I will check the bottom dimension. I love the beautifull handle of cutiepie's pan. I think it is not a cookware anymore ... it is art! I should consider this pan, too. Could you tell me how many eggs fit into the pan?Unfortunagely BBB says it is on line only items. I called Sur la table and they do not carry any stainless steel items. Only copper. This is first time for me to consider Mauviel and most of my pots are All-Clad but Mauviel products look really nice. I am interested in the following shallow roasting pan, too. But it is hard to make a decision without actually seeing and feeling the products. At the end of the day, I need to order both of them at BBB and return one of them. What a pain in the neck. Why either sur la table or WS does not sell them? Or bloomingdales!
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re: hobbybaker
Me too, I was all All-clad until just recently, within the last few months I have added a few other brands to my collection. And oh my god! I have the bigger version of that exact roasting pan!! It's very beautiful, and again heavy. Just so you know, All-clad's stainless steel roasting pan is NOT induction compatible according to the customer's online review at WS. The Mcook roasting pan looks SO elegant. I have used it as a serving piece and my guests loved it. The handles are very comfortable and pretty easy to clean. Got mine from metrokitchen.com
I think Mauviel is retiring the bronze handle version, so they're on sale now. Smartbargains.com has them at a really really good price. Trust me, if you need a small saucepan, you won't regret it. I will let you know the number of eggs it can hold when I get home tonight.
I think you can go into a BBB store and order your items with a staff and pay right there plus using a 20% off coupon too, although you still need to pay for shipping.
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re: cutipie721
hobbybaker
Feb 2, 2010 08:05 AM
Thank you for your thoughtful advice again! I called Mauviel USA CS regarding the bottom dimension. Unfortunately, they don't have that info in their system/document but they will phisically check and get back to me if they have the both sauciers in their inventory. I guess, most probably, either 0.9 qt saucier or 1.2 qt saucepan fits to my needs. Thanks again for a good suggestion of a BBB coupon! You are nice!
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re: cutipie721
hobbybaker
Feb 3, 2010 09:42 AM
Thank you cutiepie! This helps me a lot to make a final dicison. I guess I would go with 0.9 qt saucier if the bottom diameter is enough. I am waiting for a mail from Mauviel CS!! Although the saucepan's bronze handle really appeals to me, I guess the handle is not stay cool. Again, it is very nice of you to give me a very valid advice!
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re: hobbybaker
hobbybaker
Feb 11, 2010 02:42 PM
Hi, I just want to let you guys know what happend and post my experience so that someone else will benefit, who might be interested in this product in the future.
My 0.9 quart saute pan finally arrived this morning. I was so happy until I noticed that:
The pan's inside has a non- smooth (dent) area because of the deeply engraved "Made In France" from outer side, just next to the handle. (as my 2 pictures below.)I don't know whether this dent is normal, or it is a defect. It might have nothing to do with performance; however, it look awkward to me. If I buy it as "2nd" quality, I would feel OK, but it is not.
I know I could call CS of Mauviel USA, but based on the experience (they have never called me back about my question of the diameter of the bottom (actually 3.7 inch - I measured)), I do not know if I can really count on them.
I wanted to know the dimension before placing my order at BBB, but I did place an order anyway as I know I wanted to test it and hold in my hand so that I know how I feel. Strangely, I felt the "famous" All-Clad handle a bit more confortable. I think I get what politeness means by preference of "less rounded" handle.
Oh, I forgot one more thing:it has a "flat" bottom. Although it look like a "Saucier", it does not have "rounded" bottom. So, it is as a matter of fact "Saute" pan with rounded side. It is not that obvious from the retailers' pictures. The flat bottom is actually more benericial for balance as it is a small pan though.
If there is not "dent like" surface, I might like to keep this pan, but I will return it to BBB. I don't want to be bothered by going back and forth with Mauviel CS. Finding out it is a defected or not and getting new one if it is so... might take too much time... What a dissapointment, but at least I learned something by Paying $10 shipping:)
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re: cutipie721
hobbybaker
Feb 12, 2010 04:04 AM
Cutiepie. Yes it is very odd.. Does yours have the englaved "Made in France" outside? Good to know that yours and the roaster have no dent in side. I am at least still interested in their shallow roaster. I have just sent email with my two pictures to CS, anyway.
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I just bought a 1.2 qt saucepan. It's small, but it's perfect for my small jobs. It's a heavy pot, and balances well. Works on induction beautifully. I personally think that a 0.9qt, 25% smaller than mine, is a bit too small.
My induction cooktop requires all cookware to be at least 4 inches wide at the bottom. Since it looks like the saucier has a sort of round bottom (smaller contact area), you may want to find out the dimensions of the pan and your cooktop's specification before buying it.
