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Sushi...but the place needs to have non Japanese options as well...

dzop Jan 29, 2010 06:37 AM

Looking for a sushi place that also offers american-style "Asian" dishes. I love sushi and I'm an experienced eater, but my girlfriend wont eat anything beyond a few pieces of tuna/salmon sashimi and hates soba and the usual american-style "japanese" apps and entrees (tataki, tempura, teryaki etc..).

Basically, I need a japanese-cum-chinese place with sushi that'll satisfy me. Prefer, if possible, classic Japanese-style sushi like you'd get at Toraya, but I'm definitely willing to have mediocre Chinese-owned sushi as long as my girlfriend has something to eat too.

We're in Waltham, but we'll go as far as Boston/Burlington/Woburn/Framingham etc...

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  1. MC Slim JB RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 06:46 AM

    Many Korean restaurants also offer sushi. China Sky in Wellesley and Lotus Blossom in Sudbury offer both Chinese and sushi. Most shabu-shabu places have short sashimi and/or sushi menus.


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      hargau RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 06:54 AM

      Top pick i can think of is Green Tea in Newton. Not far from Waltham at all. Excellent Chinese and a very nice sushi menu.

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        dzop RE: hargau Jan 29, 2010 06:57 AM

        Is Green Tea going to be better than Sato on the north side of Waltham? that's my default option, and I had sort of assumed Green Tea was on a similar level...

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          hargau RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 07:08 AM

          I have never been to Sato. I do know that Sonny the owner of green tea takes great pride in his sushi. I dont eat sushi, so no comment but i have seen it there and it looks really nice and the menu certainly is impressive. I do know that the chinese food especially the traditional style dishes and the dimsum menu on weekends is excellent.

          He is also really into all his "special sushi creations" on the last page of the menu. Always talking about them and has photos of them all over the walls.

          I just looked at the Sato menu. Wasnt very impressed by the tiny "polynesion" style menu

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            MC Slim JB RE: hargau Jan 29, 2010 08:22 AM

            Haven't been back to Sato since I worked nearby a few years ago, but I recall it having Chinese chefs and doing a mix of American-Chinese and Japanese. This reminds me of the Bamboo mini-chain, with a Bedford location the closest to you, which is similar.

            Also, Zebra's Bistro in Medfield does an interesting (or odd, your call) mix of sushi, American pub fare, and French bistro.



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              itaunas RE: MC Slim JB Jan 29, 2010 01:54 PM

              Bamboo does better with colorful rolls than tasty sushi and its certainly not "Japanese like Toraya." Maki on the Sunday buffet in Bedford hasn't always been awful and well made, but some sashimi I was served at their Westford location was almost as bad as Minado and they were worse at cutting it. I think its good they skimp on the fish for the buffet Sushi. Bamboo is fairly decent Americanized Chinese though, Mindo also might satisfy the girlfriend, but you will have to hunt hard to find a nice piece of fish on the buffet. I think Sato might be the best option, if Oishii is interesting there is the Sudbury location. Jae's as BD mentioned would be good but down to one location. bluefin has a wider menu of cooked food than you mentioned, but unless she is good with katsu don and so on its not going to serve both of you. Since Korean has been mentioned I have done ok with the sashimi at chung ki wa, but it doesn't sound like what she would be into.

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        Gordough RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 07:32 AM

        If you are looking for a place downtown, I think Ma Soba on Cambridge Street fits the bill. It won't blow your socks off or anything but it is very solid sushi and lots of other asian dishes including the american chineese basics and more adventurous stuff as well.

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          lipoff RE: Gordough Jan 30, 2010 07:52 AM

          I second Ma Soba on Cambridge Street. I was surprised, but their Kalbi is among the best I've ever had, and they seem to do Americanized Chinese well for that genre. I might also suggest Koreana in Cambridge. Toraya or Shiki might be possibilities too, if only because their non-sushi offerings are out of the orindary --- definitely much more broad than teriyaki, tempura and soba.

          I'm amazed that there are so many restaurants that offer sushi and something very different --- sounds like you have many options!

        2. gini RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 08:07 AM

          What about Oishii in Chestnut Hill? I know, this doesn't sound like a good idea at all. They have lots of interesting rolls that might actually appeal to her. The shiitake mushroom roll covered in sauteed mushrooms is about as cooked and unctuous as I can think of.

          Lots of Korean places have sushi too.

          Also, if it gets desperate, Rue 57 in NYC has sushi and French bistro dishes on their menu.

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            mgcmonkey RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 08:37 AM

            goto All Seasons Table in Malden. Its owned by the same owner as Sato, but i think the food and atmosphere is much better..especially their sushi. their sushi chef came from douzo. i believe they have live jazz on the wkends as well.

            their sashimi and sushi is good, but their maki offerings are better. if you go, try the basil fried rice. 4/5 stars on yelp 88 reviews if that means anything. price is a bit high for malden...but definitely cheaper then boston/cambridge. plenty parking on street out front and lots of free/metered lots nearby.

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              lisa13 RE: mgcmonkey Jan 29, 2010 09:46 AM

              If the drive is not too daunting I think All Season's is a good choice.

              They have respectable sushi, as well as an extensive pan-asian menu. Nice space. They do still have jazz on the weekends but this can also make things rather loud. I like it, but if you want to talk talk talk it can get difficult when they start playing.

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                debidokun RE: mgcmonkey Jan 30, 2010 01:01 AM

                I was just at All Seasons Table 2 days ago. I had the sashimi and it was the best I have ever had there - eaten sashimi there at least 10 times.

                The taste and appearance was better - maybe a new sushi chef since I had eaten about 2 months ago.

                They definately have jazz as they were setting up when I was leaving on Thursday night. Lisa13 stated the jazz was loud - I never thought it was loud. However, I have never sat at a table really close to the musicians.

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                Bluebell RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 08:38 AM

                In Arlington, Fusion Taste is a decent option. The sushi is not up to the level of Toraya's, but they have a good variety and list specials as well, in addition to the complicated maki options that include deep-frying, etc. The menu is pretty broad and includes Chinese stand-bys, a section of "Polynesian" and my husband has had fish dishes there that are almost European in presentation (filet w/ broccoli and rice on the side). They used to be Mifune, but reopened as Fusion Taste, and have also added a bar w/ a variety of "martinis." The service is also very friendly, and efficient.

                1. kobuta RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 09:11 AM

                  I've heard praise for Montien's sushi, though I've never tried it myself. Their Thai food is pretty darn good.

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                    hotoynoodle RE: kobuta Jan 30, 2010 05:34 AM

                    their sushi is pretty good actually, and all these places now have so many "designer" maki rolls hat have nothing to do with sushi or raw fish.

                    skipjack's in newton has a regular seafood menu and a sushi chef on duty. quality of food is very good, but execution can be really hit or mis with the cooked american food.

                  2. Bob Dobalina RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 09:24 AM

                    Maybe a bit far from Waltham, but isn't Jae's in the bulls-eye of this request?

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                      tysonmcneely RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 09:26 AM

                      Get a new girlfriend and go to Oishii

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                        Bob Dobalina RE: tysonmcneely Jan 29, 2010 09:30 AM

                        Funny...but that does raise a legitimate question...who "hates" tempura? Meh, I can see...but "Hate?"

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                          dzops_girlfriend RE: tysonmcneely Jan 29, 2010 09:45 AM

                          Hey -- back off sysonmcneely!

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                            dzops_girlfriend RE: tysonmcneely Jan 29, 2010 09:45 AM

                            Hey -- back off you guys!! Tempura is a waste of calories.

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                              Bob Dobalina RE: dzops_girlfriend Jan 29, 2010 10:20 AM

                              lol....that's awesome.

                              Now that you are participating in the discussion, what kind of food do you want?

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                            LStaff RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 12:49 PM

                            In Waltham, check out Sato in the plaza at the corner of Winter St and 128 - same plaza as Bertucci's. I've been there for sushi about a dozen times and its always fresh, delicious, and well prepared. Both Japanese and Chinese on the menu. http://www.satorestaurant.com/

                            There's also Absolutely Asia on Main St. - only had Chinese takeout once so can't comment on the quality of the sushi. http://www.absolutelyasia.com/menu.htm

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                              jackbauer RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 02:10 PM


                              1. Science Chick RE: dzop Jan 29, 2010 02:12 PM

                                Willy's Steakhouse in Shrewsbury fits the bill perfectly.....great steakhouse, nice ambience and awesome sushi bar. Sounds unlikely, I know, but it is really quite good! Might be a bit farther out than you wanted to travel, but it might be a decent option once in a while.


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                                  Eatin in Woostah RE: Science Chick Jan 30, 2010 07:44 AM

                                  Yes, I was going to recommend Willy's as well. You'll both be happy. Also a second for Lotus Blossom in Sudbury.

                                  Another option much closer to you is Ponzu on Moody St. in Waltham. The sushi is pretty decent (not Toraya, but better than an afterthought at a Chinese resto) and the other options are varied and quite good.

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