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Siena Recommendations Wanted

Sid Cundiff Jan 24, 2010 06:21 AM

This coming Palm Sunday evening, my train arriving c.1830hrs from Rome, until Holy Wednesday early morning I’ll be in Siena. I welcome Chowhounders’ judgements and recommendations for dining.

My emphasis, in order of decreasing importance:

i. first and foremost: the cuisine of Siena and her environs
ii the wine of the same (or the wine of Orvieto)
iii. one or two fine dining places
iv. several places less expensive yet still Chowhound quality
v. at least one place where the emphasis is on the wine but also serves a meal
vi. at least one place on the campo
vii. within walking distance, my hotel in the middle of the city; yet if a place is really worth it, and a taxi will take me there, I’ll consider it.

I’ll need five recommendations, two recommendations for “dinner” (“lunch” to you Yankees), and three recommendations for supper. And because the hotel might charge too much for breakfast, any place for a simple breakfast of cappuccino and cornetto.

I’ve done my homework! Below is the result of my searching Chowhounders on Siena in the past two years. And because our own M Fant doesn’t have a book out on Siena (as far as I know), I’ve consulted Plotkin _Italy For the Gourmet Traveler_ (hereafter P), the Michelin _Italia 2009_ (M), and the latest _Blue Guide Tuscany_ (B)

Here’s the Chowhounder list, alphabetical:

1. Buca, La
2. Cane e Gatto
3. Canto, Il
4. Caroccio, Il
5. Castelvecchio, Osteria (also recommended by P )
6. Chiacchera, Osteria la
7. Divo, Antica Osteria da
8. Logge, Osteria le, also M P B
9. Morbidi
10. Mugolene, Ristorante M P
11. Nonna Gina, Osteria
12. Papei, Al, aka "Trattoria Papei", M
13. Tamburino, Osteria Il
14. Terzi, Enoteca i
15. Torre, Trattoria La (A thorough report from tupac17616) B

P also recommends:

16. L’ Osteria (also B)
17. La Vecchia Tarverna del Bacco
18 Grotta di Santa Caterina da Bagoga
19. Enoteca Italiana di Siena (does it serve meals or it just wine?)

B also recommends:

20. Tre Cristi (also M)
21. Le Campane

And M also recommends:

22. Al Mangia (appears to be right on the Campo)
23. Enzo
24. La Taverna di San Giuseppe
25. Nello “La Taverna”

Your updates, confirmations, additions, subtractions, praise, and blame, all are most welcome. Thanks beforehand, and I’ll reciprocate with a long report upon my return.

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    ItalyTravelista Jan 25, 2010 03:25 AM

    During our last visit in Nov.09 we really enjoyed La Taverna di San Giuseppe (twice) and Osteria Boccon del Prete. There's also a sort of deli/winebar/grocery store in Piazza del mercato where we had very good sandwiches and wine by the glass (lunch only I guess).
    On the main streets there's a big grocery store called Consorzio Agrario Siena, the local coop, where you'll find an amazing selection of local delicacies including extra vergin olive oil, porcini mushrooms, black truffle oil, super tuscans, wide selection of cured meets including Falorni's and so on at very reasonable price.
    Enjoy:-)

    Nancy

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      LotsC Jan 25, 2010 05:22 AM

      Hi Sid,
      Good choices of restaurants although my erstwhile favourite of Al Papei has gone down a tad so I would suggest removing it from the list. Grotta di Santa Caterina da Bagogna excellent. as is L'Osteria (which is very simple but very good). Il Caroccio is also v good and L'Aquila which is just up the road from Il Caroccio is good too. All these restaurants are very traditionally Senese. I was there for a week last August (and have spent several weeks there so know it pretty well) and there are 2 other restaurants which you should very strongly consider and I will email again tomorrow. Le Campane is very good as well, be careful because they sometimes bring more expensive bottles "by mistake" is the Fonterutoli chianti was exchanged for the Castello Fonterutoli which was more than double the price!

      I would also like to make the following suggestions - to leave Al Mangia just for drinks; the enoteca Italiana is just drinks but is not worth the trek and Morbidi is probably shopping. Le Logge is pretty expensive but good. I will also let you know some places to avoid!.

      Where are you staying? I have always stayed at Borgo Grondaie which is a little outside the centre but brilliant and very reasonable.

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        POY Jan 25, 2010 09:40 AM

        LotsC
        Your hotel looks good but how do you get into Siena? We want a place with parking as we will take day trips but would also like to walk into the city or, at least, have some form of transportation into the downtown. In our last visits to Siena, parking was a major problem.

        1. re: LotsC
          Sid Cundiff Jan 30, 2010 04:39 AM

          Thanks for your reply! Fill me in on your "two other restauranst" which I "should strongly consider".

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          solargarlic Feb 1, 2010 02:39 PM

          The only place I can clearly remember from Siena was the San Paolo Pub right on the Campo. One of the most incredible sandwiches I've ever had anywhere. They have a long menu of hot toasted sandwiches, it would be a great inexpensive stop for lunch.

          http://www.sanpaolopub.com/

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            kyeblue Apr 4, 2010 07:16 AM

            Sid, hope you had a good time in Siena. Eager to know your dining experiences there.

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              POY Apr 8, 2010 04:51 AM

              We returned from Siena last week and had good meals at the Osteria le Loggia, good lamb with the best santo/biscotti plate of the trip.We were, however, ushered up to the second floor with the tourist. Make sure you make a reservation and ask for a downstairs table. Nello la Taverna has a wonderful owner who will make suggestions for your meal. We had beef steak and moist apple cake with santo. In addition we had one of the best lunches of the trip at Hosteria Il Carroccio, Via Casato di Sotto 32 where the pork stew on polenta and veal stew and white beans where excellent.

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                kyeblue Apr 8, 2010 05:09 AM

                thanks for the report. How was parking this time?

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                  POY Apr 8, 2010 05:22 AM

                  We stayed at a hotel right outside of the Pallini gate and walked into town (800 meters to the Duomo.) The hotel had free parking!

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                  BN1 Apr 9, 2010 08:57 AM

                  My wife had that pork stew on polenta a few weeks ago at Il Carroccio and she is still talking about it. Our whole dinner, food, wine & service, was outstanding.

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                  uncledunkel May 19, 2010 05:30 AM

                  Sid, which did you end up going to and what did you think of them? Will be in Siena for 3 nights in June. thanks

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                  1. re: uncledunkel
                    Sid Cundiff May 22, 2010 09:25 AM

                    I ate with pleasure in four places, about which I plan to do Chowhoundian reviews:

                    1. Hosteria il Carrocio, Via Casato di Sotto, 32 Tel 0577/41.165
                    2. Ristorante Grotta Santa Caterina, via della Galluzza, 26, Tel 0577 28.22.08
                    3. L'Osteria, via dei Rossi, 79/81, Tel 0577 28 75 92
                    4. And for a fine dining place, with an extensive wine list: Le Logge Due, via del Porrione 33, (don't have phone #)

                    I thank LotsC above for suggesting 1-3.

                    In addition, if sitting outside on the Campo, Al Mangia will do, though I thought the wine list a bit short, the food not quite as good as above, and you're paying for the location. Still, the food isn't bad and you have the option of sitting on one of Europe's most impressive civic squares. Al Mangia, Il Campo 43, Tel.: 0577 28 11 21

                    Stay tuned to this board; you've prompted me to review my experience in Siena before mine in Rome.

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                      uncledunkel May 22, 2010 02:26 PM

                      thanks, also headed to Rome on my trip, but there's a lot more info on this board for Rome than Siena

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                        LotsC Jul 7, 2010 09:36 AM

                        Hi Sid,
                        Pleased you had a fab time in SIena - I love it and apologies for not having gotten back to you sooner, I haven't logged in for some time.

                        Best wishes,

                        LotsC

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                          Sid Cundiff Jul 31, 2010 09:48 AM

                          Thanks, LotsC. Your recommendations made my day. I too have been away for a while. I posted some time back "Siena Report #1. I'll get to Siena #2 shortly.

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                            Ruth Lafler Jul 31, 2010 07:17 PM

                            Hi, Sid! I didn't do any research on Siena for my upcoming trip and used my chow-dar to find L'Osteria on via dei Rossi. We really enjoyed it and I'm glad to see it's gotten some other good reports here.

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                              Sid Cundiff Sep 11, 2010 08:23 AM

                              Thanks, Ruth. My meal there was fine, and the owner have me a 2nd shot of grappa, even though it was my first time there.

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                      nylon21 Jul 13, 2010 08:33 AM

                      we loved la taverna di san giuseppe when we went in september '09. among other things, we ordered pasta with truffles (took the waiter's recommendation to do half gnocchi, half fettucine) and when he came out with the truffle, he started grating it over my pasta and said "tell me when to stop" -- unheard of in many other restaurants where they carefully place 3 truffle shavings on top of pasta and tack $20 onto the cost!
                      also make sure to get a tour of the wine cellar which used to be a house in like 200 b.c... they'll show you the pick marks on the walls which is how they burrowed into the side of a hill. very memorable meal.

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