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Good pho in the scarborough or east end...

BamiaWruz Jan 20, 2010 09:35 PM

I want to try pho, never had it before but want a good place to try it... anything in the east end because everything I saw on the forum was mostly toronto.

Thanks !!

Between eat toronto and oshawa area range is fine! markham too.

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  1. Wahooty RE: BamiaWruz Jan 21, 2010 04:57 AM

    My current favorite is Pho Vietnam, on Kennedy north of Lawrence. They have one of the nicest broths I've run across.

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      spine64 RE: BamiaWruz Jan 21, 2010 05:02 AM

      I second that, clean, fast and efficient service. Great broth.
      Cheers

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        red dragon RE: spine64 Jan 28, 2010 04:50 PM

        Pho Vietnam is good, we've been there before and it's very close to our home, but in our opinion, portions were skimpy.

      2. scarberian RE: BamiaWruz Jan 21, 2010 03:53 PM

        I like the broth at Pho Dau Bo on Lawrence and Markham Rd (in the plaza with the Soon Lee and Shoppers Drug Mart). Establishment is clean, simple. The broth is quite nice and the noodles and beef are very good. Good prices and good quality.

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          BamiaWruz RE: scarberian Jan 21, 2010 05:41 PM

          Thanks!! If pho vietnam is the one beside canada computers then I'm familiar with it and have seen it several times. I will definitely check out both these places recommended.

          Pho, here I come!!

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            red dragon RE: scarberian Jan 23, 2010 04:24 PM

            Hi Scarberian - this is our second meal today from Chow posts! We tried Pho Dau Bo on your recommendation for dinner, great place! As you said, place is clean, broth is very good, beef was tender. My vermicelli noodles were a bit overcooked, but could have been just that one instance. I liked the spring rolls, most places have the other kind of wrapper (not sure the name but it's crinkly), this place has the regular type spring roll wrapper which most Vietnamese places don't have.

            Disappointed they didn't have coriander, but they did have fresh shado beni, which sure made up for it, since it tastes very similar to coriander.

            Service as you said was quick and very friendly (no offense, but not very common for Asian places where the servcie can be abrupt to down right rude imo). The woman thanked us when we left, reminded us to take our candy and I told her we came here from a recommendation. She asked us how we liked it and invited us back again!

            Thanks for the post! This will be our new pho place now. Previously we frequented VIP on Hwy 7/Warden area. BTW, this place does not recycle the bean sprouts, we didn't eat them and the server dumped them in our leftover broth. That was great to see!

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              jayt90 RE: red dragon Jan 23, 2010 05:21 PM

              I went to Pho Dau Bo on Friday and was just slightly disappointed.
              Service was fine, and the Pho came quickly. Broth was somewhat thin, compared to Pho Mi Asia (Keele and Wilson). Slivers of rare beef and tendons were a bit skimpy, but there were sides such as fresh basil and extremely fresh sprouts.
              I really prefer Pho Mi Asia for the broth, the meat (seafood) and the good service by York students. But Pho Dau Bo is worth a second visit, and close to me. And a visit to Soon Lee is always worthwhile for food value and entertainment!

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                red dragon RE: jayt90 Jan 28, 2010 05:13 PM

                Sorry to hear your experience wasn't a good one. We went back again tonight, just got home. We wanted to give it another try after last Saturday, and after reading your review.

                Pleased to find out that our 2nd time was just as good. Portions were plenty (and my husband has a huge appetite), broth was flavourful. Had the spring rolls again and this time I noticed they had taro in the filling, which is rare in a Vietnamese restaurant, and they tasted similar to my mother in-law’s and my own recipe. Wished we had ordered the large instead of small, so we’ll remember that on our next visit.

                We always order extra lime and coriander, in this case, the shado beni, and the server had no problem giving us extra, despite shado beni being a bit pricey.

                We chatted with the owner, Albert, who is very engaging and passionate about his restaurant. He emphasized a great deal about the importance of customer service and quality ingredients. Cleanliness is also key (the washrooms were very clean and I had checked them out last weekend), and Albert goes above and beyond to ensure the Health & Standards are met throughout the restaurant and kitchen.

                We talked about the other locations and he explained how particular they were about new owners coming in, as they don’t accept just anyone and have rules, one being the restaurant has to be family owned and run, and no liquor license.

                I told Albert that we were impressed that on our last visit, we noticed they don’t recycle the bean sprouts and he was shocked, saying how much does a bushel of bean sprouts cost? And to take a risk on losing customers, let alone the Health & Safety standards? I told him that my husband noticed the server put all the unused and un-touched sprouts in his broth, in front of him and Albert explained that the servers do that purposely, to let the customers know they’re going in the garbage.

                Growing up in the restaurant business (my dad still runs the business after over 45 years), I certainly related to the conversation. It was getting late and we had to go but I told Albert we were happy to have found a new place for our fix of Vietnamese food.

                For those who haven’t tried Pho Dau Bo, give it a shot (and no, I’m not a friend of Albert’s, we just met).

                Address:
                http://www.phofever.com/restaurants.p...

                There are several locations, but this one is closer for us.

                Oh, and if you’re a young couple, ask for the couple’s table ...LOL. Albert filled us in on that story.

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                  BamiaWruz RE: red dragon Jan 28, 2010 07:55 PM

                  I think I will try this place! Thanks.

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                    tekkamaki RE: BamiaWruz Feb 5, 2010 12:15 PM

                    We must chime in and add our vote for Pho Dau Bo on Markham Rd too! We tried the pho earlier this week and found the broth deliciously beefy and aromatic -- not at all overly salty or MSG-y. The noodles were nice and firm. The generous amounts of beef was a shocker -- more than we have ever had anywhere. As scarberian and red dragon noted above, we were quite satiated after a bowl and we have healthy appetites!

                    Our usual pho place in the neighbourhood had been Pho Saigon which was Ok, a convenient, clean spot but their pho is nowhere as good as Pho Dau Bo. This will become our "Go To" spot -- thanks for the recommendations!

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                    Pho Dau Bo Restaurant
                    665 Markham Rd, Toronto, ON M1H2A4, CA

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                      red dragon RE: tekkamaki Feb 9, 2010 02:04 PM

                      Hi Tekkamaki - we may bump into each other and never know, we consider ourselves regulars as well. We went 3 times in one week recently!

                      Chow!

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                    scarberian RE: red dragon Feb 1, 2010 02:55 PM

                    BTW the last you were there did they show a concert on the big screen tv? My wife and I used to enjoy sitting at the side tables near the entrance and watch some concert they had playing on the big screen. Sort of like a dinner and show =). They played the Bee Gees, Yanni, and Sade.

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                      red dragon RE: scarberian Feb 2, 2010 02:08 PM

                      I didn't notice, we sat on a different side last week and I need glasses to watch TV ...LOL. How nice that you had entertainment with your meal though. I'll definitely look at the TV on our next trip (should be next week).

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                    szw RE: jayt90 Jan 28, 2010 09:48 PM

                    Pho Mi Asia is the more common place I'll head to for Pho, very consistent with good broth. I just wish they had the pho sate that I'm missing.

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                      red dragon RE: szw Jan 30, 2010 06:15 AM

                      Have to give it a try, if I'm in the area, but that would be quite a trek for pho (for us anyhow).

                      I only posted here as the OP (original poster) asked for locations in Scarborough, Pho Dau Bo actual has several locations across the GTA.

                      Do you find the pho satay a bit greasy in general?

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                  BamiaWruz RE: scarberian Feb 11, 2010 06:03 PM

                  Went there today to try it for the first time, pho in general. I always saw this place but didn't register it until we got there.

                  Pho was interesting, didn't know quite what to order so we got well done beef and flank but both seemed exactly the same and very fatty, is that how it's suppose to be? I always thought the noodles were thicker but they were ok, the broth was very nice with the exception of the onion for my SO, but it was nice in general.

                  We had some concerns because the soup is quite hot and remains hot, that the bowls seem melamine, not sure how healthy that is.
                  Also the tea she brought us tasted like a cleaning agent or bleach, not sure what the cups were rinsed in or if some residue was leftover on the cups but that didn't taste quite right so we didn't drink it. Prices were good, if we ever go back I'll ask for no onions for my SO and probably find out if there is a leaner cut of meat.

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                    Wahooty RE: BamiaWruz Feb 12, 2010 06:29 AM

                    Yes, those cuts do tend to be fatty - next time, try rare beef and/or beef balls. If you're not a fan of rare meat, just leave the slices in the hot broth until it's cooked through - it doesn't take long, and they are lean slices.

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                      BamiaWruz RE: Wahooty Feb 13, 2010 06:35 PM

                      Thank you for telling me, I will give it another try.

                      Do they have different kinds of noodles or are they always the rice noodles?
                      Just curious, I was thinking they were going to be more like an udon.

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                        Wahooty RE: BamiaWruz Feb 13, 2010 07:22 PM

                        They are always rice noodles, and generally the flat ones. I think I've been to one or two places that have the round rice vermicelli, but that is not the norm. Also, the onions are a pretty standard part of the dish, so if your SO doesn't want them, always specify.

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                          BamiaWruz RE: Wahooty Feb 13, 2010 08:23 PM

                          Yes, I saw on google how they're part of the dish, and they're delish but will specify next time for SO.
                          I don't mind the rice noodle, I just got he impression that they were more like udon, hehe.

                          Good pho, Thanks!

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                  Sandybandy RE: BamiaWruz Jan 22, 2010 06:51 AM

                  We love the Pho 88 in the Warden/Steeles area (325 Bamburgh Circle). We have been going there for years...hubby likes the Pho Satay and the owner hooks me up with a vegetarian broth version with bok choy, deep fried tofu and fresh rice noodles...the fresh rice noodles are key!

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                    mrsleny RE: Sandybandy Jan 28, 2010 05:06 PM

                    Quick question for ya ... is the vegetarian pho on the menu or do you have to special request it?

                    Thanks!

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                    szw RE: BamiaWruz Jan 22, 2010 09:00 AM

                    Not sure exactly what east end means, but if you are close to the broadview/gerrard chinatown, it is mostly made up of vietnamese restaurants now. Mimi's restaurant is always popular.

                    1. BamiaWruz RE: BamiaWruz Jan 28, 2010 07:58 PM

                      Quick question: Is there any fish or seafood in the broth or dishes? I'm just curious because of allergies.

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                        chalenegirl RE: BamiaWruz Jan 28, 2010 08:03 PM

                        I really enjoy Vietnam Noodle Star

                        4188 Finch Avenue Eeast
                        Scarborough, ON M1S 4T6
                        (416) 609-9796

                        They use fresh noodles (not dry) and their broth is very fresh and flavorful. you pick the different meats that go on top as well. Excellent pho!

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                          gutsontoast RE: chalenegirl Jul 6, 2010 10:00 AM

                          Seconded. An oasis of good Pho- albeit tempered to the Chinese palete. Yet consistent deliciousness plus lightning-quick service (you get your pho 2 minutes of sitting down), gets a thumbs up from me!

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                          lchow4983 RE: BamiaWruz Feb 20, 2010 10:23 AM

                          Pho Saigon is a restaurant which we frequent quite often and their pho/rare beef soup is good, as well as their shrimp roll (not deep- fried) with peanut sauce. the restuarant is located in a strip mall on Warden/Eglinton Ave. E. (1921 Eglinton Ave. E.)

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                            1sweetpea RE: lchow4983 Sep 8, 2010 11:49 AM

                            I just tried Pho Vietnam for the first time. The pho was fine, but on the small side. It didn't blow me away. My observations of the broth was that it was a bit oily, a little saltier than some and not incredibly aromatic, though the aromatic undertones were present. Two of us ordered pho and the herb plate that arrived (sans chiles) was nicely sized for one person, but skimpy for two. We asked for a second plate (with chiles) and it was quickly delivered. My medium bowl of rare beef and beef balls had about 6 slices of completely cooked beef and 5 very small beef balls. I was disappointed that the beef was so well cooked. I'll have to ask for it on the side next time. The beef balls were the smallest I've ever seen in a bowl of pho, but there were 5, so I didn't mind. I've been to other places that only served 2 larger beef balls, sliced in halves, so I thought the meat serving was reasonably generous. My only real complaint was that the medium seemed smaller than others I've had. I was hesitant about ordering the large, for fear that it would be massive, but I suspect it would have been the right size after all. My SO ordered a rare, well done flank and tendon. He enjoyed it. I tasted a piece of tendon and it was nicely chewy. A lot of places cook the tendon to the point that it nearly dissolves on contact. I thought the texture at Pho Vietnam was appealing. Our other two diners ordered buns, which looked decent. The beef was tasty and the spring rolls looked nice. I tasted the side sauce and found it flat. I like my nuoc cham to have a nice balance of sweet, salty, sour and spicy, with a goodly amount of garlic. This one was missing the sour and spicy notes.

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                            Pho Vietnam
                            1187 St Laurent Blvd, Ottawa, ON K1K3B7, CA

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                            danelocruz RE: BamiaWruz Dec 9, 2010 05:18 AM

                            The best pho in Scarborough is Phoa Metro located on the South East corner of Lawrence & Warden. Phoa Vietnam on Kennedy road is good but not as good Phoa Metro and Phoa Dabu on Markham is over rated and over priced.

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                              jmarcroyal RE: danelocruz Dec 22, 2010 03:36 AM

                              I just grabbed some Pho last night from a place at Birchmount and Danforth in the North-West plaza and It was so damn good!

                              Let me start by saying it was my very first time trying Pho. Ive seen it all over, on tv, on the boards, and basically all over the city. Well, I absolutely loved it and im hooked!

                              I ordered takeout, and in the bag was 2 pretty big styrofoam soup containers, 1 containing broth, the other with the noodles and the beef. I ordered the small so I was more than pleased by how much there was. With it was a little bag of sprouts, some leafy lettuce or something, and a little container with what im pretty sure was teriyaki, but I could be and probably am very wrong.

                              Im just getting over a cold right now so I thought soup would be great, and Pho sounded like the perfect thing, so im glad I tried it out. I tasted the broth and I loved it, a nice savoury flavourful broth that I couldnt get enough of. I mixed it with the beef and noodles and let the beef cook for a second then I enjoyed it. I still had half of the other container full of broth which I used to top up the noodle container.

                              Somehow, maybe because I was enjoying the broth and the tender thinly shaved slices of beef, I forgot to add the sprouts and other goodies:(

                              Oh well, I really enjoyed it and I cant believe I waited this long to try it. I cant think of the name of the place, but what do you pho phanatics think of this place?

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                                scarberian RE: jmarcroyal Dec 22, 2010 05:08 AM

                                Glad to hear you truly enjoyed it! It's the broth that hooks you and you described the broth the way it should be, flavourful and savoury (though one's version of savoury and flavourful may be different from anothers). As for what was in the bag, usually sprouts, basil (Thai I believe), and sometimes a wedge of lime. The sauce could have been their hot sauce which "kicks it up a notch". Thanks a lot jmarcroyal, now you got me craving for pho today with your description of your meal. You should also try the spring rolls... delish! So you say this was at Birchmount and Danforth? It sounds familiar, but I can't recall the name either... anyone ?

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                                  jmarcroyal RE: scarberian Dec 22, 2010 09:14 AM

                                  I forgot it did come with lime, but it wasnt hot sauce that came with it, I tasted a bit and it was kinda sweet/salty like teriyaki, maybe an oyster sauce or something, im not sure. I think it was Thai basil too...

                                  *I just searched and the place is Pho Dai Nam, I think ive heard it mentioned around here, not sure about what people around here think of it but I liked it...

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                                    sweetie RE: jmarcroyal Dec 22, 2010 09:47 AM

                                    It might have been hoisin sauce, although different places may use different condiments.

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                                      Fleming RE: jmarcroyal Feb 26, 2011 05:00 PM

                                      Pho Dai Nam is pretty good, especially if you live/work in the area. I've had a few different dishes and they've all been great. I work down the street and it's regularly one of our lunch spots. Their pho definitely satisfies my craving when it hits.

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