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Jan 20, 2010 03:02 PM

Iron chef - Flay vs. Smith

Just heard they will face off. My bet is with Flay - TKO.

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    1. re: sharonlouk

      Do you mean Art Smith? If so, Bobby Flay will kill him. Although I would eat at Art Smith's restaurant.

        1. re: millygirl

          Michael Smith doesn't stand a chance... oh, and does anybody think Flay's sorta like the Chen Kenichi of the new iron chefs? Not the best, but he's he's been there since the beginning and everybody wants to challenge him

    2. Just finished watching the episode. Didn't really surprise me, with regards to the winner, but I would have surely dug deep into that crab club sandwich.

      1. Lol Michael Smith had no chance whatsoever. Giada has more technique than he does lol. I have no idea how they chose him in the first place. Maybe because he's a semi-celeb chef here in Canada. He should have challenged Ted Allen, they are about on equal level imo.

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        1. re: Evilbanana11

          what?! Michael Smith is an actual chef, has worked at restaurants etc.
          I'll agree that I thought he wouldn't stand a chance, and I certainly thought Bobby Flay deserved to win, but many of the dishes he put out looked brilliant. That crab sandwich was amazing with those anchor cookies and he actually made a dessert too. I also thought it was really cool how he took that basic tuna snack he makes for his family and elevated it for kitchen stadium into a beautiful dish. He deserved more than 40 points.

          1. re: AndrewK512

            Yeah i know he was a chef but his techniques are jurassic and he lacks finesse. He also used that anchor thingy in an event on one of his old Chef at large episodes, I think that's the pinnacle of presentation for him. Surprised he didn't bring out his bag of baby spinach :D.

            1. re: Evilbanana11

              LOL. "Giada has more technique than he does" Ohhhh, I love it. You are EVIL banana11!

            2. re: AndrewK512

              While Smith may lack finesse he definitely is an excellent chef with high pedigree (an honours graduate of CIA New York). I took a cooking class with him once and he was incredibly interesting and knowledgable. Having said that I was surprised to see him on Iron Chef as it does not seem his style. He and Flay are sort of on different playing fields - not that one is better than another, just different. However, I was happy to see Smith was up for the challenge. It is my belief he should have received more points for plating at least. I think 44 points would have been more appropriate. But it was slightly messy serving those three guacamoles in food processor bowls. It was unfortunate Smith did not pull out all the stops and use more skill and technique - I know he is definitely capable of it.

              1. re: chefathome

                It wouldn't surprise me at all if Smith was on for cross promotion purposes for Food Network Canada and his own shows.

              2. re: AndrewK512

                I belief Smith reply after the decision was "Thanks for having me , but I have to go, I'm in charge of the 2010 Olympics....well congrats and have fun cooking on your game show.

              3. re: Evilbanana11

                OTOH, remember that in the original Japanese Iron Chef they also had some battles pitting "amateur" cooks against the Iron Chefs, and sometimes the "amateurs" even won. For example, the female cooking personality that beat Iron Chef Chin in battle potatoes, or the world champion sommelier that beat Kobe in a tuna(?) battle.

                1. re: gyc

                  Does anybody remember Booby Flea's tantrum when he LOST on the original Iron Chef?

                    1. re: ChefJune

                      I remember, he was very immature at that time.

                      1. re: ChefJune

                        Yes, he has grown up a lot over the years. His insecurity made me really dislike him initially. Years ago, when you would type Bobby Flay into google, "bobby flay asshole" came up as one of the suggestions. Today when you do that it doesn't come up anymore.

                        1. re: Miss Needle

                          Me too. Never really thought about why, up until this minute, but I actually enjoy watching him these days. Particularly his show Showdown. He comes across as very humble.

                          1. re: millygirl

                            I liked him, even when he had a bit of the edge, but I know what you all mean. He comes across more humble. Probably more comfortable with his reputation and doesn't feel the need to pump up his ego as much?

                            1. re: millygirl

                              Yes, he was SUCH an asshole. He lost the insecurity and need to prove himself all the time.

                              He has gone from my least favourite chef on FN to one of my favourites. Part of that is the decline of FN, but some of it is due to his growth/change.

                              Throwdown is good and Flay is genuinely likable. Both a good loser and a humble winner.

                            2. re: Miss Needle

                              I agree, I hated him when I first watched him, and he seemed very one dimensional, all about the grilling and spicy peppers. He has really mellowed over time and comes across as much more creative and well rounded in the newer shows like "Throwdown".
                              He mispronounces "mascarpone" all the time though - it's kind of funny. He says 'marscapone'. Lots of people do that, but it seems especially amusing coming from a professional chef.

                            3. re: ChefJune

                              yes, jumped on the table and all

                              1. re: ChefJune

                                I remember that and it really put me off him. Plus he was so humorless on his other shows. It's only been recently that he hasn't driven me nuts. I think he got some media training . . . or saw himself and decided he needed to do something.

                          2. am i the only one who thought this battle was a total snore? i wasn't inspired by the food, and i was disappointed that they didn't use more techniques. of course this was one ingredient where the ice cream machine could have been a good thing! i was hoping Bobby would try smoking some avocado, or that someone would make a less predictable dip than guac - they could have blended it with beans (i was hoping that's where Flay was going with the edamame, but no dice)...and i would have liked to see more baking.

                            and what on Earth was Antonio Sabato Jr doing there as a judge?? not a word about whether he's even a foodie or a cook himself, and he doesn't even like avocado. oy.

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                            1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                              No goodhealthgourmet, you were not the only one. It was terribly unexciting to say the least. Actually kind of embarrassing at times. Like someone said above, the anchor thingee and the guac in the food processor, what was he thinking. Yeesh it was all so 1980. I was thinking he most likely perfected the anchor during his days at the Inn of Bay Fortune. All in all, really lame. Even Bobby looked uncomfortable when they announced the winner.

                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                Sabato also doen't like oysters or raw fish. No wonder they edited most of his comments out.

                                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                  Sabato was so out of place. What were they thinking? It drove me nuts when he had a bite of something on his knife and proceeded to eat off of it!

                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                    When was the last time Booby Flay did anything innovative or that did not include smoked habaneros?

                                    1. re: Withnail42

                                      i've actually never seen him use smoked *habaneros* ;)

                                  2. Boy Chef Smith sure didn't do anything to damper the stereotype that Canadians are super-polite. If he said "Thank you" one more time in that battle, I was going to lose it.

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