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Jan 19, 2010 06:21 PM

phil's bbq....

my girlfriend's friends want to go to phil's for some bbq. does it still suck or have they improved?

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  1. why not try the new place that opened up somewhat near there, Smokin Bones.. they sound good

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    1. re: duckdown

      smokin bones isn't anywhere near there and is take out only

      1. re: ingloriouseater

        Smokin Bones does have a few counters with a dozen or so seats for eating in... it's not just take-out only.

        1. re: ingloriouseater

          What is your point, even if its take out only? If Phil's isn't good, you still expect me to tell him to eat there?

          1. re: duckdown

            i never recommended nor did i trash phil's, just commented that the two locations discussed are not close to each other, and sorry about the 'take out' only part, but the OP seemed like they wanted a sit down kind of place

      2. The last time I went I vowed never again. That was about 3 years ago.

        What about Paul and Sandy's on Dundas W near B'thorpe??


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        1. re: Davwud

          just wrote a review for Paul and Sandy's. One word for you - GO.

        2. I went to Phil's BBQ a few weeks ago. Don't bother going it was horrible. I went with 3 other people, we each ordered something else and we each sampled each other's dishes. The meat was all overdone and dry. You needed to drown everything in sauce just to be able to to eat any of it. The only thing that was half decent was the baked beans. As for their famous ribs, you are better off with swiss challet.

          NEVER AGAIN!!!!

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          1. re: carnivore1964

            since when has Phil's sucked? i go about 3 or 4 times a year-last visit was in the summer- and it was incredible as always. i only ever get the ribs but if you are honestly comparing them to swiss chalet..... that is ridiculous. my only problem is that the parking situation isnt great and the George Bell lookalike waiter isn't always very concerned with being friendly. i dont care though, i go for bbq, not to make friends

          2. This is news to me that people think Phil's sucked... I always thought it was pretty good and it's considered to be one of the more successful restaurant makeovers.

            I've eaten there before and enjoyed it. There's been times I haven't been able to get in there because it's been so busy. I suppose Phil does have a lot more competition for southern BBQ now than he did a few years ago. Though the Stockyards is my go-to place for BBQ in the city, I wouldn't hesitate going back to Phil's.

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            1. re: sarnya

              Remind us again when Stockyards does BBQ - every time I've passed by they only seem to have burgers and fried chicken!
              But I did have a great porchetta sandwich there (but very expensive). Also it's basically take-out as well - a couple of counter stools, but hardly a 'restaurant'.
              But I agree that Phil's is a disaster - or at least was - I never go to Phil's anymore.

              1. re: estufarian

                I've never had a problem with getting a seat or the BBQ menu items at the Stockyards, be it lunch, dinner, weekends or weekdays, there's always plenty to order.

                It is basically a take out place but because I don't live in the neighbourhood or own a car, I have to eat inside. I've found the employees and other customers to be talkative and friendly so eating in there is actually a great experience.

                Regardless, this thread is about Phil's, which is actually a really good restaurant. I'm still shocked to see this hate-on people have for Phil's. With less people going there now, maybe I can finally get in there again without the huge line up.

                1. re: estufarian

                  My couple visits to Stockyards were a waste of time as well, nothing but burgers or porchetta sandwiches

                  1. re: duckdown

                    Just FYI according to their takeout menu sitting on my desk, ribs are available at Stockyards on Tuesday, Friday, and Sunday. After 5pm only.

                    1. re: childofthestorm

                      Typically Tuesday is the only potential day for me - and after 7:00.
                      I WILL give them a try (mainly because of your, and others, recommendation - in principle I go to places that suit my schedule, not require me to match theirs) - but if they're sold out expect me to complain every time this subject comes up. At least I can potentially take the streetcar (sorry, rapid (???) transit ) to/from St Clair subway now without changing (although last time I tried, within the past week, from Wychwood Barns, they still made me change at St Clair West).

                      1. re: estufarian

                        Yeah, I have a car...believe me if I had to take the streetcar along St. Clair only to find no ribs at Stockyards, I would complain too.

                2. re: sarnya

                  Chowhounders at least have almost universally panned Phil's for years. It's nothing new.

                  I've never been so I can't comment one way or another.

                3. I have been once, something like a year ago. 'sucked' is an understatement for their dry and flavorless and overpriced food. there is no comparison either with Stockyards or Southern RUB, the two best ribs in the city

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                  1. re: shekamoo

                    At Stockyards the ribs must be good. They've never had any when I've visited!

                    1. re: shekamoo

                      thanks guys. i went to phil's a few years back and had a similar experience, that's why i'm wondering what's up. now the fun starts of trying to convince my gf that her friends may be

                      take a look here...

                      1. re: chrisfernando100

                        However bad Phil's is, DON"T try and convince her that her friends are wrong! That's a fast way to an ex-girlfriend. Sometimes you just have to grin and swallow (literally).
                        Plan on two outings - one to Phil's and one based on the recommendations here.
                        Wishing you a long and happy partnership!

                        1. re: estufarian

                          I agree.

                          Chris, you can be right, or you can be happy. You decide.


                          1. re: Davwud

                   gf is cracking up reading this right now......