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The Meat House, Saratoga Springs

PSZaas Jan 15, 2010 07:07 PM

This upscale butcher shop opened this week; specializes in high-end steaks, some specialty cuts, stuffed chickens, fancy foods of various kinds. Highlight seemed to be dry-aged steaks; we brought home a beautiful 45-day-dry-aged porterhouse for tomorrow night. Apparently this is a franchise out of Portsmouth, NH, but locally-owned, and the products seems to be largely locally-sourced. Certainly a good addition to the area.

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    saratogaaaron Feb 27, 2010 07:43 AM

    I was at the Saratoga Farmers Market this morning, and noticed that at least two of the vendors sell grass-fed meat. One is Lewis-Waite Farm (from Greenwich NY) and the other is Marilyn and Arnold Grant Farm (Argyle NY). Possibly other vendors as well, but I usually buy from these two farmers.

    And BTW, the Farmers Market is open all year. In the winter it is at the Division St. Elementary school. (The winter market mostly has meat, dairy, eggs, apples, and root vegetables. Also some handicrafts. A few farms have greenhouses, so there are a few greens also available.)

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      gerchak198 Feb 27, 2010 09:22 AM

      Me too, as I wrote in an earlier post above.

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        financialdistrictresident Feb 27, 2010 11:36 AM

        Just in case anyone is interested in the CSAs Lewis-Waite Farm provides to:

        http://www.lewiswaitefarm.com/

        Also, Marilyn and Arnold Grant do not appear to have a website, but are listed here:

        http://www.saratogafarmersmarket.org/...

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          mjoyous Feb 27, 2010 01:04 PM

          Troy Farmers Market is year round and has multiple grass-fed meat sellers, including bison.

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          Ekatarin Feb 10, 2010 02:08 PM

          If you're ever in Kingston, NY (Mid-Hudson Valley/Ulster County) - stop at Fleisher's Grass Fed and Organic Meats www.fleishers.com. I recently moved to the Capital District and am trying to find a Fleisher's like butcher shop up here but no luck yet - if anyone has info, please pass it on.

          No, I have no financial interest in Fleisher's whatsoever - just a happy customer who wanted to share! :)

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            mjoyous Feb 11, 2010 03:21 AM

            I'm planning a pilgrimage to Fleishers, after hearing them on WAMC.

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              financialdistrictresident Feb 25, 2010 03:32 AM

              Per Fleisher's website:

              "All of our animals are raised on a primarily grass-based diet and never receive antibiotics or hormones."

              Where do they get all that grass in winter? Or would that be hay?

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                mjoyous Feb 25, 2010 10:34 AM

                It's the flexibility of interpretation of "primarily grass-based." Lots of "natural" meat purveyors, like Colemans, translate that to about 6 months with mom and grass fed, then 6 months on grain.....negating all the health benefits of pure pasture raised (and yup, that means hay in the winter.)

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                  financialdistrictresident Feb 25, 2010 04:57 PM

                  Thanks, mjoyous.

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                    gerchak198 Feb 26, 2010 05:12 AM

                    For what it's worth at this point, and especially in light of mjoyous's (Feb. 25) point, I still do not believe that The Meat House sells true grass-fed beef.

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              gerchak198 Jan 19, 2010 05:53 AM

              Anew butcher shop, Sander's, is opening soon at the Carousel Village on Rt. 50 about a mile north of Ballstob Spa.

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                financialdistrictresident Feb 25, 2010 03:45 AM

                Thanks, gerchak198. An article about Sander's:

                http://www.saratogian.com/articles/20...

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                  financialdistrictresident Feb 25, 2010 05:49 AM

                  I called Sander's and they do not carry organic chicken, just natural. They have boneless duck. He said they are opposite Odd Lot in B. Spa. Sounds like a really nice guy.

                  Didn't ask about meat . . .

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                    financialdistrictresident Mar 18, 2010 02:30 PM

                    Took a little field trip to Sanders this afternoon. Frozen rabbit, quail, duck breast (from Canada). I bought some natural chicken. They have some prepared foods and grocery items also. Really nice people. Can't wait to send SO to check out the meat. Closer than Roma when I need to buy duck.

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                gerchak198 Jan 16, 2010 05:21 AM

                I was quite disappointed. TMH is good for one thing only: dry-aged steaks and other cuts of beef. Since corn is not a natural thing for cud-chewers to eat, I'm not all that excited. TMH (when I was there) has NO veal, bacon, grass-fed beef, cage-free chicken, and the deli is a very limited section of the same stuff everyone else has--Boar's Head.

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                  mjoyous Jan 16, 2010 07:56 AM

                  I can't believe someone would open a "high-end" meat mart in this day and age and not have grass-fed, free-range and organic meats.

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                    PSZaas Jan 16, 2010 10:54 AM

                    Believe it. Do you know of any meat market in the Capital District that sells pastured meat? Grass-fed meat is available from Brookside Farms, at the Saratoga Farmer's Market, and from other farmers, in frozen cuts at the Greengrocer and the Honest Weight Food Coop, and from Lindsay's and Bowman's North orchard stores, but all of the local meat markets, not Just Meat, not Fred the Butcher, not Latham Meat Market sell corn-fed beef exclusively. Roma's in Latham sells hormone-free "natural" beef, but last I checked it, too, was corn-fed. Help us out, please, with a commercial source for grass-fed, free range, organic meat.

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                      financialdistrictresident Jan 17, 2010 02:16 PM

                      Ditto.

                      Natural chickens everywhere I go except Honest Weight Food Co-op. PC tried organic chickens and they didn't sell. Roma is the only place I can find duck and smoked duck, usually from Canada. Someone at the Saratoga Farmers Market told me it's hard to get the feed . . .

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                        gerchak198 Jan 17, 2010 03:32 PM

                        Nice fresh muscovy duck at the Asian Supermarket on Central.

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                          PSZaas Jan 17, 2010 06:40 PM

                          Also delicious roasted from their buffet. Leaves a pervasive odor in the car, when you eat in the parking lot. But certainly not organic, grass fed, nor (probably) free range.

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                            financialdistrictresident Jan 18, 2010 03:50 AM

                            Thanks. I've had the roasted duck and have been craving it. I need to get myself over to Central soon.

                            Thaks, gerchak198. I didn't know they had fresh duck, just saw the fish selection.

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                        mjoyous Jan 18, 2010 12:15 PM

                        This is the only market I know of north of NYC that specializes in grass fed meats. I haven't yet been there but have it in my "make a pilgrimage" list. Saratoga is a little far for me re: farmers market, but I find that the Troy, Lenox and Great Barrington markets yield only frozen packages of meat (though one farm at the Troy market sometimes has fresh beef or pork.)
                        I prefer to buy smaller quantities, and truly wish there was somewhere between the Berkshires and the capital district to buy humanely raised meats. I often purchase from a local farm in Hancock Mass, but even they grain finish their beef. I know there's an all grass-fed farm in Berlin, NY but cuts of theirs that I've seen at the Williamstown food co-op were not what I was looking for.
                        http://www.fleishers.com/

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                          PSZaas Jan 18, 2010 02:03 PM

                          Not exactly in the Capital District, but definitely worth a stop. Let me re-recommend Brookside Farms, though, in Argyle. I bought a quarter grass-fed steer and was very happy with the quality and packaging of the meat. Very nice people, always at the Saratoga Farmers Market. For the Berkshires, nothing suitable in Guido's?

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                            mjoyous Jan 19, 2010 05:29 AM

                            I'm buying for one, so don't need a large part of any animal. Guido's carries an Oregon beef these days, pasture raised but grain finished. As I have an acquaintance raising 100% grass fed beef in Oregon, I know that's possible, unlike here where we have to provide feed over the winter. Most of the local farms I know, like Ioka, try to feed self-grown grains at least. But thanks for the suggestion!

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                      foodandwine4me Jan 31, 2010 07:12 PM

                      Definitely NOT Whole Foods. The customer service was excellent. I was there on Saturday, they do have some 'humanely raised, grass fed beef' that was prime. I did buy a couple, they were actually really tasty. The guy behind the counter said they had prime and choice beef. There was not a wide selection of natural and organics. I found out that not all of their meat was on display, and they had free-range chicken hidden out back- from Wellingford Farms? Something like that. I did see some veal and lamb, which I have a hard time finding, but again, some was frozen, and some was hidden 'out back.' I would go back for the meats-- I'm going to buy the dry aged beef next time- cant wait!

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                        gerchak198 Feb 1, 2010 11:07 AM

                        Wow, when I was there they had no grass-fed beef--and their take-away literature emphasizes "corn-fed." I'll have to give them another look.

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                          gerchak198 Feb 2, 2010 07:47 AM

                          You are mistaken, foodandwine4me, The Meat House, as I said above, does NOT carry grass-fed beef. I spoke with them today, suspicious of your post, and they said their beef is raised on a "vegetarian grain diet," and then "grass-finished." Grass-finished is nice, but it is not grass-fed. And the grain diet preceding it is not a natural diet for a bovine.

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                            mjoyous Feb 2, 2010 11:46 AM

                            Thanks Gerchak. Grass finished is truly weird, especially around here. Most local farm to me grass raises and grain finishes, which is typical....though not preferred!

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                          hanah Feb 23, 2010 02:24 PM

                          Hi All, I was just at the Meat House today. It does have grass fed beef. I bought a couple of steaks and made them this evening. Yummy! Not cheap but you pay for the grass fed verse feed lot beef. If you are interested in grass fed, this is one option for you. For those of you that are wondering what the big deal is between the grass and grain, I would suggest viewing the movie Food, Inc. It is up for an academy award. Very eye opening.
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                            gerchak198 Feb 23, 2010 03:19 PM

                            If this is true, I think they need to put out consistent info.

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                              financialdistrictresident Feb 24, 2010 10:37 AM

                              A list of grass fed beef, etc. farmers in NY:

                              http://www.eatwild.com/products/newyo...

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                                gerchak198 Feb 24, 2010 12:09 PM

                                Thanks, FDR. I get mine at Saratoga Farmers Market.

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                                hanah Feb 25, 2010 02:02 PM

                                Maybe it is fairly new. The source of the beef is Rising Sun Angus in Whitehall (www.risingsunagnus.com ). I went on the web site to confirm that it is fully grass fed, not just finished with grass as was mentioned in an earlier post.

                          2. jaylhorner Jan 15, 2010 11:40 PM

                            Grilled a steak from there last Sunday.... It was great!

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