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NY Chowhound in PHX on business. Request your assistance

I am going to be in PHX staying at the W on business in a few weeks. there will be 8 of us who all work together trying to find a nice place to eat. I would stay away from anything too ethnic i.e indian or french but would love to hear some suggestions for some excellent steak, american, upscale mexican...

Much appreciated.

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  1. I think the W is east of 44th Street on Camelback? If so, that's an excellent location for restaurants; centered between 2 clusters of very good places. In the group of restaurants west of you is Noca at 32nd St. and Camelback. East of you is The Mission which, though not specifically Mexican, offers excellent Latin American food that's more upscale than the typical Mexican restaurant around here. There are plenty of other very good places as well that others will no doubt chime in on.

    The CH link to Noca is working, but not Mission. Here's a link to their website: http://www.themissionaz.com/

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    Noca
    3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

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    1. re: AllPhoenix

      The only W I'm aware of, is in Scottsdale. It's on Camelback, just east of Scottsdale Road.

      1. re: AllPhoenix

        My mistake on the location of your hotel. The W is right by Scottsdale Fashion Square, which is further east than I thought. Restaurant recommendations are the same, however, though Noca is a bit further west and The Mission is about 1/2 mile south of you. No need to waste your time at any of the restaurants in Fashion Square, but there are very good places just south of the mall. Too bad you're not looking for French, but if you change you mind Petite Maison would be my #1 pick and it's right by your hotel.

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        Noca
        3118 E. Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

        Petite Maison
        7216 E Shoeman Ln, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

      2. Modern Steak is pretty good for a nice steak experience. Also, not too far down camelback is Mastro's City Hall, which can be very good. I second the Mission as it is fabulous.

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        1. re: danieli10

          Maestro's is very good and it's practically within walking distance of the W. Especially in this nice weather.

        2. For a great steak, BLT steak at the Camelback Inn is a good choice. Modern Steak easily walkable from your hotel but I think the 5 min cab ride to BLT steak is worth it for the ambiance.

          The resort patio is a nice place for a cocktail either before or after dinner.

          1. You can walk to Dnn & Charlies in about two minutes. It's a local institution. The food is decent and its a fun place particularly with a group. The area behind the hotel is full of bars. If you want to go simple and casual one night The Lodge has about the best bar food around. Burgers and a killer fish and chips.

            1. If you have transportation (or are willing to cab it), I agree with AllPhoenix that Noca is a good option for you all. Less formal, and in the same vicinity, Delux serves good burgers with a solid beer menu, and Chelsea's Kitchen might be a safe choice (taco, burger, salad, meat options).

              Closer to your hotel, I'd suggest Los Sombreros for your "upscale Mexican," and FnB, Cowboy Ciao, or Rancho Pinot for American. I'll also second The Mission.

              1. Don and Charlies is a classic in old town, Ribs, Chix, great spot always good

                1. I second Los Sombreros for "upscale Mexican," FnB, and Rancho Pinot. Of these only FnB is within realistic walking distance of the W. It will take a slightly longer cab ride but I would add Avalon in South Scottsdale to the list. The steak places & Don & Charlies are good, but you can have a similar food experience in any big city. If you have the time and transportation try Kai at Wildhorse Pass, not close, but may be the best restuarant in AZ (& I am not usually a chain hotel restaurant fan). Binkley's in Cave Creek is another place that is several miles away, The chef - owner worked at both the Inn at Little Washington and The French Laundry before opening his own place. And as much as I love LGO's operations I would not go to Chelsey's Kitchen.

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                  Binkley's
                  6920 E. Cave Creek Rd., Cave Creek, AZ 85331

                  Don & Charlie's
                  7501 E. Camelback Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

                  1. Lots of good suggestions here and I'll add some more but first wanted to make you aware of the Scottsdale Trolley. It's free and operates through downtown Scottsdale and runs right by the front door of the W. It makes all of the downtown/old town restaurants very accessible. Here are some suggestions that haven't been named yet:

                    Kona Grill at Scottsdale Fashion Mall for their happy hour. all apps half price.
                    I haven't been but have heard a couple of good things about Marcellino's across from Modern Steak at the mall.
                    Wildfish is a sleek seafood place with a great half price happy hour.
                    Sauce for salads, pizza, sandwiches and pasta. It's a very simple concept.
                    Even though you said no French I am going to push Petite Maison which is steps from your hotel. You'll like it.
                    Metro Brasserie. Again it's French but there is plenty to like.
                    Olive & Ivy. I'm not a fan but it's a popular place.
                    Asia de Cuba. Not my style but they do well.

                    All of the above are easy walks from your hotel. Two places a bit farther but convenient through the trolley:

                    Bandera. This is a comfort food operation from Houston's. Rotisserie chicken and meatloaf, Etc. About a mile away.

                    Trader Vics. I tried it prepared to hate it and really enjoyed dinner. They also have an excellent happy hour with discounted appetizers. Good place for a group as most entrees are served familiy style. Also about a mile away.

                    1. FnB has not been mentioned. new place that is getting rave reviews. On the small side so you will need reservations. Within walking distance of the W so everyone can get blasted together.

                      7133 E. Stetson Dr.
                      Scottsdale, AZ 85251

                      480-425-9463

                      1. Just wanted to throw in a couple more suggestions that are good happy hrs in the area or just good to eat..

                        the salt cellar is about 10 min from your hotel- happy hour 4-7 mussels, clams, shrimp cocktail great spot.

                        Carlsbad tavern is another local institution-southwestern food, bar/restuarant. pretty casual has happy hr as well

                        Uncle Sals- Italian also in the vicinity as well has really good food

                        1. I would definitely second the recommendation for Bandera. It is close to your hotel and has excellent prime rib and steak.

                          For mexican, I would recommend Cienes Agaves, also nearby. It is not particularly upscale, but not a dump either. They have great tacos and a large tequila list.
                          http://www.cienagaves.com/

                          1. Ended up going to Modern Steak as we could not get a reservation at Noca. We ate at a table in the bar area as the wait in the main room was 20 min and we were hungry. The bar was filled with beautiful women and the waitress who managed our table did a great job. We ordered the Rib Eye, Strip and Short Ribs for mains, cheesy potatoes and corn pudding for sides. The short ribs were fantastic and served with a horseradish gnocci. Both steaks were good but not as good as many other steakhouses I have visited. The home made donuts for dessert were amazing and a must get if you ever go there. All is all a fun, good meal but not a top quality steak house. It is inside a mall so the atmosphere is not a traditional steak house but then again it it called Modern Steak.

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                            1. re: princeofpork

                              Curious to know which "top quality" steakhouses you feel are better. I haven't been to dinner at Modern Steak, but had a really good lunch there.

                              1. re: danieli10

                                I would rank Peter Luger, Smith and Wollensky and Wolfgangs better. Del Friscos, Mortons and Craft Steak the equivelent.

                                1. re: princeofpork

                                  Ok, not too bad. Obviously, Lugers and S & W are a different kind of steakhouse, but looking simply at steak v. steak, the comparison's are good. Equivalent to Craft Steak is solid. Makes me want to give it a shot.

                                  1. re: danieli10

                                    Dont laugh but I had a great steak at Michael Jordans.

                                    1. re: princeofpork

                                      You're far from the first person I've heard say so.

                                      1. re: princeofpork

                                        Me too. When we Iived in Boston and used to take weekend trips to the casinos in CT, I would order the bone-in ribeye with a side of lobster mashed potatoes at Michael Jordan's.

                                        And to keep this local, love the bone-in ribeye at Durant's too.

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                                        Durant's
                                        2611 North Central Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85004

                                        1. re: Rubee

                                          That is where I had the great steak, at the MJs in CT!!!