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Jan 8, 2010 12:50 PM

Pizza To End All Pizza Discussions

So I'm watching an episode of Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre World where he visits Wisconsin (where I believe he lives). He drops in at a local Pizza joint called Ian's, in Madison, but they have other locations in Milwaukee and Chicago.

Now, I have to explain that I'm basically a pizza purist, being born and raised in New York, but I've been in California most of my life now, so I'm pretty much into anything that tastes good at this point. However................. the pizza menu at Ian's is enough to try pizza-lover's souls. Zimmern said it was good, and I guess that's the bottom line, but........... REALLY:

These are all PIZZA TOPPINGS at Ian's:

Chili Pot Pie
Chili Cheese Fritos
Black Beans, Feta, Avocado, Tomato
Spinach Mashed Potato
Guacamole Burrito
Buffalo Chicken w/Bleu Cheese
Chicken, Bacon, Ranch, BBQ Sauce & Cheddar
Chicken Penne Alfredo

I really need to hear from people who have been to Ian's and would comment on whether they consider this pizza or just interesting toppings on pizza dough. And................ how does it taste? I suppose it's really no different that the 'sandwich wrap' concept. You can put almost anything good into a wrap and be OK, so why not on top of pizza dough?....... I guess.

Just............. please............ it hurts when you call it Pizza.

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  1. LOL! I'm from NY also but live in NC, where I've yet to come across a real Italian pie. I can't imagine putting chili or mashed potato on a pizza...that said, I love to experiment with toppings but to me, some things are just favorite is just a plain authentic Italian thin crust with cheese that gets oily when melted and topped with maybe pepperoni, granulated garlic and a pinch of crushed red pepper flakes.

    1. I'm not interested in putting any of that muck on my pie, but if that's what some people like, so be it. I'll stick to my salami and garlic, or pepperoni and mushrooms.

      1. Vaguely non-sequitir: If I take pizza dough, roll it flat, put some sweet sauce on it, lay slices of apple on it and bake it, should I call it an apple pizza, a galette, or a pie ?

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        1. re: dump123456789

          I suppose you can call it whatever you want, but the French would prefer you not call it a galette, the pizza crowd not a pizza and the pie crowd not a pie.

          1. re: Midlife

            I asked because a local pizzeria makes such an item, which they call an apple pie pizza. In addition, I've had galettes and what were called "apple pie" (freeform, so basically a galette) in which the pastry was so blah as to resemble pizza dough. So, basically the same thing under 3 different names, distinguished only by what the restaurant/bakery chose to call it. To me, they all just seemed like apple pie.

            1. re: dump123456789

              You may also be able to get away with calling it a tart.

              1. re: dump123456789

                Brazilians make sweet pizzas with things like bananas. I think it is a matter of using pizza dough for the crust that puts it in the pizza category.

          2. Zimmern lives in Minnesota, just FYI. (I know this is barely relevant, but I just thought I'd throw that in. Home town boosterism, ya know.)


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            1. re: The Dairy Queen

              Yes, I said that in my OP ya know. He's originally a New Yorker, though, so I can forgive him. :o)

              1. re: Midlife

                Sorry, I thought you said Wisconsin. Even I get the two mixed up sometimes, but let me just say, if you're trying to tell the two apart: Wisconsin: more cheese, and less Farve. Minnesota: more jucy lucys and more Farve.


                1. re: The Dairy Queen

                  OH! You just HAD to bring the conversation down to the lowest common denominator by using the 'F' word! ;-}

                  1. re: Fydeaux

                    Yeah, sorry.

                    But Wisconsin really does have cheese, booya, and fish fry covered, not to mention beer and sausages, so, I'm still a lover, not a hater.


                2. re: Midlife

                  Actually, you wrote:

                  "So I'm watching an episode of Andrew Zimmern's Bizarre World where he visits Wisconsin (where I believe he lives)."

                  1. re: carolinadawg

                    Ooops! Caught again.................even trying to deny my own mistake. Alwyts read too fast.......and sometimes write that way too. Apologies toTDQ.

              2. It ain't's a flatbread use in pizza dough.

                Jfood has the same input he has for most of the topping his colleagues in California place on their flatbreads...

                IT AINT PIZZA

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                1. re: jfood

                  So .. is a Hawaiian pizza not a pizza? I mean, I hate those suckers.The taste of ham and pineapple on tomato sauce is just repulsive. Still, they've been around forever and from sea to shining sea.

                  1. re: rworange


                    And if they bastardize manicotti and lasagne in the same manner they would need different names as well.