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2010 - What are you drinking?

njfoodies Jan 4, 2010 03:53 AM

Happy New Year everyone! It's time for a new "What are you drinking" thread!

Wishing youa ll the best in 2010! May many corks be popped, and many bottles be enjoyed! Saluti! -mJ

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  1. Pata_Negra RE: njfoodies Jan 4, 2010 06:10 AM

    just uncorked a malbec from northern Argentina -> http://www.bodegasetchart.com/vinos_c...

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      chadrich RE: njfoodies Jan 5, 2010 07:25 AM

      Cleaned the cellar over the holidays, so am trying to have the discipline to drink the stuff that most needs to go (either due to age or due to there being no more rack space for that particular category). Last night finished off a 2007 David Coffaro Petite Sirah and tonight I'm eyeing a 2001 Saumur.

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        BigWoodenSpoon RE: chadrich Jan 5, 2010 08:52 AM

        Had a Chateau L'Aulee' Cremant de Loire Brut NV last night at my local wine bar that was so yummy. Apples, honey and a little lemon, it was a lovely expression of a sparkling Chenin Blanc that wasn't too sweet. Retail: $15, so I'll definitely be back to pick some up for my next party. I also picked up a 2008 Winter Riesling Trocken (1 L, $14.50) which I'll probably be breaking into the next time we head out to our new favorite Chinese restaurant. This Rheinhessen Riesling is probably one of my favorites both in flavor; dry , balanced and delicious and price point.

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        triggs73 RE: njfoodies Jan 5, 2010 11:41 AM

        2007 Shrader Hell Hole Zinfandel......EXCELLENT!

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          Steve_K RE: njfoodies Jan 6, 2010 05:44 PM

          2003 Roc de Cambes with med-rare duck breasts and a morello-cherry sauce

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            mengathon RE: Steve_K Jan 9, 2010 10:30 AM

            The entire family of wines are quite good. I've had the Domaine l'Aurage, and the Domaine de Cambes, as well as the Tertre Roteboeuf. The 04 Domaine de Cambes is drinking very well right now for a young Bordeaux.

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              Steve_K RE: mengathon Jan 9, 2010 11:35 PM

              Yeah - the Tetrtre Roteboeufs are nice, had a 99 towards the end of last year and it still had everything there with no signs of tiring.
              Never had the Domaine de Cambes though, is that a 'second label' or something totally separate?

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                mengathon RE: Steve_K Jan 12, 2010 10:06 PM

                They are all from I believe the same proprietors and winemakers.

                The Domaine l'Aurage is a Cote de Castillon, Domaine de Cambes has a general Bordeaux appellation. Both with the name and style, I think its a younger sibling of sorts to Roc. And less expensive. But I think the Roc is the better value. Different wines, but I also like the Roc better than the Tertre.

          2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jan 8, 2010 09:00 AM

            2004 Il Poggione (Proprietá Franceschi) Brunello di Montalcino

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              triggs73 RE: ibstatguy Jan 8, 2010 01:24 PM

              Great wines, but too young to be drinking now, no? I had tried the Luce 2004 Brunello and it was tight.

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                ibstatguy RE: triggs73 Jan 8, 2010 03:57 PM

                it had a lot of life left to be sure but was nonetheless wonderful to drink...

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                  mengathon RE: ibstatguy Jan 9, 2010 10:34 AM

                  Asimov of the NYTimes was not so enthralled with the 04 Poggione, which is somewhat puzzling. I've always found it to be one of the better Brunello offerings out there. See below.


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                    ibstatguy RE: mengathon Jan 10, 2010 01:43 AM

                    I try to make a point of reading Asimov every week but on this particular wine I can't agree with him.

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                    triggs73 RE: ibstatguy Jan 11, 2010 06:16 AM

                    I not questioning that "it had a lot of life left"...it should. 2004 Brunello is still "young" . Not saying that you couldn't drink it. I, and this is just my preference and the wine group I drink with, usually wait on the Brunellos.

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                      ibstatguy RE: triggs73 Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM

                      and I all to often drink wines before their time; given some TNs on this one that I had read, I felt comfortable that while still rather young, we would not have all the enamel ripped off our teeth by aggressive tannins...

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                        triggs73 RE: ibstatguy Jan 12, 2010 11:58 AM


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                McBoingBoing RE: njfoodies Jan 8, 2010 09:12 AM

                I work today, but tonight I will be drinking some Trevor Jones Jonesy Port and Possibly some Delas St. Espirit Cotes-du-Rhone rouge 2007

                1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jan 8, 2010 03:56 PM

                  2000 Marc Hébrart Champagne Brut Prestige 1er Cru

                  1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Jan 9, 2010 07:09 AM

                    2004 Vollenweider Riesling, Wolfer Goldgrube, Kabinett.

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                      triggs73 RE: njfoodies Jan 9, 2010 11:43 AM

                      2007 Caduceus Primo Paso Red.....like silk!

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                        archon41 RE: njfoodies Jan 12, 2010 11:36 AM

                        Stopped by Spec's yesterday to check out their Spanish whites, and decided on a 2008 Montecillo Albarino, styled "Verdemar." Looks like all they did was buy and bottle it, but I think it's probably about as good as any Albarino I've ever tried. It has a twist-off cap (wish they all did.) Cash price was $9.75. Hard to beat.

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                          Pigloader RE: njfoodies Jan 12, 2010 02:12 PM

                          Estezargues CDRV Sinargues "Andezon La Granacha" 07-- crazy value in 07 rhone, and drinking beautifully right now (though I suspect that if i could stop guzzling it, it'd hold up for awhile, too...)

                          Also been grooving on Mibal Ribera del Duero, Bachelet Monnot Bourgogne Blanc (all declassified Puligny fruit... and tastes like it), and Sella and Mosca Cannonau Riserva 05.

                          1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Jan 15, 2010 10:34 AM

                            2008 Thierry Puzelat Touraine "La Tesniere" Pineau d'Aunis

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                              ibstatguy RE: wineguy7 Jan 15, 2010 12:17 PM

                              and what was this exactly?

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                                wineguy7 RE: ibstatguy Jan 15, 2010 03:23 PM

                                From the Louis/Dressner website:

                                "Pineau d’Aunis, sometines called Pineau rouge, is another obscure, ancient varietal that survives in Touraine, most of the time used in blends with Cabernet franc to produce rosé. Even when vinified as a red wine, as is the case here, it is very light in color, body and alcohol and is deliciously refreshing, spicy, lively and aromatic."

                                We loved it. It paired great with our dinner at Aziza last night. It was light, minerally, a little grapey and bone dry.

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                                  ibstatguy RE: wineguy7 Jan 17, 2010 06:33 AM


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                                  RicRios RE: ibstatguy Feb 24, 2010 01:40 PM

                                  Actually, it's the oldest vinis vitifera cultivated in the Loire valley.


                              2. thirstygirlpa RE: njfoodies Jan 15, 2010 07:47 PM

                                Just tried a grenache blanc - I'd never seen this bottled, only barely heard of it. It was great!

                                Spencer Roloson Grenache blanc 2007

                                Anyone else tried this varietal?

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                                  ibstatguy RE: thirstygirlpa Jan 17, 2010 06:33 AM

                                  Tablas Creek makes a very nice one

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                                    thirstygirlpa RE: ibstatguy Jan 17, 2010 07:09 AM

                                    Thanks! Love trying something unexpected on the wine scene...

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                                      triggs73 RE: thirstygirlpa Jan 18, 2010 12:28 PM

                                      I've had Spanish ones that were quite good.

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                                  mengathon RE: njfoodies Jan 16, 2010 10:53 PM

                                  Um, hit the jackpot on Monday! Generous guests!

                                  DRC La Tâche 02 - great. always memorable.
                                  DRC Echézeaux 02 - paled in comparison.
                                  Rousseau Chambertin-Clos de Bèze 96 - fell asleep midway through, but delicious. Good to drink now.
                                  Paolo Scavino Barolo Riserva Rocche dell'Annunziata 97 - wheeeee
                                  Ch. Latour 49 - In perfect condition. Wasn't looking at the fill directly, but definitely above the first slope of the shoulder, still. The color is still intense, and shows no sign of fading. There are still primary, fresh fruit aromas, and still had a moderate kick at the end. That 1855 classification, as ridiculous as it sometimes may be, still nailed the 1st growths on the nose. I have never had one that was more than 20 years old, and they're truly worth their reputations, if not their price tags. Amazing.

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                                    tuxedocat RE: mengathon Jan 17, 2010 12:02 AM

                                    Wow. I've never tasted a DRC. Keep hearing about them though. It is nice to hear about the Latour, but now I am thinking that my son will enjoy the ones I have after I turn into a skeleton.

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                                      ibstatguy RE: mengathon Jan 17, 2010 06:34 AM

                                      still getting more than your share I see!

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                                        mengathon RE: ibstatguy Jan 19, 2010 07:51 AM

                                        Yeah, it's a good start to the year. I'm a lucky dog, to be sure. Not to mention that a 70 Petrus that was opened was corked...

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                                        Cookiefiend RE: mengathon Jan 19, 2010 03:49 PM

                                        "Paolo Scavino Barolo Riserva Rocche dell'Annunziata 97 - wheeeee"

                                        My favorite tasting note ever!
                                        Gives me hope that in a few more years my 2000's will evoke the same reaction

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                                          wineguy7 RE: Cookiefiend Jan 20, 2010 12:42 PM

                                          You may want to have a peak at those 2000's now - just to see how they're doing. http://www.wineloverspage.com/italwin...

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                                            Cookiefiend RE: wineguy7 Jan 22, 2010 09:20 AM

                                            In December we had a dinner with the specific intent of drinking some of the 2000's. We had a bottle of Giovanni Corino Vigneto Rocche, Silvio Grasso Bricco Luciani, and Azelia Bricco Fiasco. I thought they were alright...meaning they didn't knock my socks off and I felt they weren't quite ready. We'll try them again later this year.
                                            We didn't open the Paolo Scavino Bric del Fiasc because the tasting notes I have say they probably won't be ready to drink for a little while longer.

                                            We opened a 1997 Pio Cesare that was corked (arrgghh) and replaced it with a 2004 Brancaia Ilatraia - which was fabulous. Almost a 'wheeeee!'.

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                                              TheDewster RE: Cookiefiend Dec 17, 2010 11:11 AM

                                              I have stopped buying Pio Cesare and Banfi due to continuous cork taint.

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                                            mengathon RE: Cookiefiend Jan 26, 2010 11:40 AM

                                            Sorry! Wish I could have been more specific. The Annunziata is the best of the 97s that I have tasted recently. The Bric del Fiasc was equally aromatic, but the palate wasn't as powerful. The Cannubi was also an excellent, but seemed a little tight. Definitely more potential there. See below for more 97s...

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                                          tuxedocat RE: njfoodies Jan 16, 2010 11:37 PM

                                          (hi everyone! first post!)

                                          2 wines in the past week or so:

                                          CHATEAU BEAUCASTEL CHATEAUNEUF-DU-PAPE 1997 - served with pork loin "smothered" in a Porcini sauce and slow cooked. Very lovely, with a slight rust on the rim and incense in the nose. The wine still had lots of fruit and a bit too much structure. I was a little sorry I opened it, but I had figured that '97 wasn't the best year for CdP and the wine would be ready. Wrong. If you have this in your cellar, it is safe to hold. The wine was still very memorable and oh, so lovely. I had to ask my spouse what we ate with it, since I remembered the wine and couldn't recall what I had cooked. My pork loin was good, but didn't measure up to this bottle. Wished I had opened a village burgundy, but we had a special guest over, so a "special" wine was the order of the evening. In any case, the guest loved the wine.

                                          a few days earlier:
                                          Thomas Fogarty GEWÜRZTRAMINER 2007 - I have always liked the wines from this producer, but this bottle was terrible. Winery tasting notes describes as "veers towards fresh ginger, rose hips and pineapple", My bottle veered towards fresh ASPIRIN, stems and pineapple" I know that Gewürztraminers can show a hint of bitterness now and then, but this was a stemmy mess. It ruined the sauce I was making, since I made the fatal error of adding the wine before tasting. The wine had a very nice bouquet, so I figured it was fine. Learned my lesson the hard way.

                                          This is the first Fogarty Gewürztraminer that I have had that has not been wonderful. I am really sad to say that this is one to avoid.

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                                            BigWoodenSpoon RE: tuxedocat Feb 25, 2010 01:08 PM

                                            Just had the 2008 last weekend along with the 2009 Gist Ranch Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot Gris, both of which were extremely delicious.
                                            Perhaps 2007 was an off year or you had a bad bottle?
                                            My brother and I are planning a trip to the winery soon to pick up a mixed case.

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                                            archon41 RE: njfoodies Jan 18, 2010 08:26 AM

                                            Couple of interesting whites lately: a 2007 Pierre Sparr Riesling (Alsace) and a 2008 Quinta do Aqueve, Ribatejo, made from Fernao Pires (Portugal). The back label of the Riesling shows a chart ranking dryness on a scale of 1 to 10. This one is ranked "1," the dryest. It is that, and quite tart, but intensely fruity. Most enjoyable, but I couldn't finish the bottle. Didn't have that problem with the Quinta do Alqueve, which is rather like an Albarino, only somewhat more "austere" and intense. Great bargain at $12.00.

                                            1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Jan 19, 2010 10:43 AM

                                              Over the weekend:

                                              2066 Kosta Browne Sonoma Coast

                                              2007 Stefania Haut Tubee - cannot keep my hands off this wine. Drank 2 from the case so far, with another case on the way. This is going to be the QPR of the year for 2010. I can already tell a month in. -mJ

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                                                tito RE: njfoodies Mar 11, 2010 06:36 AM

                                                2066 Kosta Browne??? Are they selling futures?? :)

                                                Only kidding, I have a 2005 Kanzler and a Koplen ready for dinner tonight with some guests

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                                                  njfoodies RE: tito Mar 11, 2010 06:53 AM

                                                  LOL @ 2066! OOPS! Fat fingers! Enjoy the '05's! We had an '05 Koplen on our anniversary and it was one of my favorite pinot of all times. Such a great wine, and the Kanzler is nothing to shake a stick at. Wish we had some '05's left, but haven't touoched the '06's yet. May have to go to offsite and pick up one of each to give them a whirl this summer! -mJ

                                              2. Cookiefiend RE: njfoodies Jan 19, 2010 04:01 PM

                                                2002 Behrens & Hitchcock Les Chats du Monde.

                                                I'm not good with tasting notes, (Zin1953 said that the most important tasting note was either yum or yuck) so I'm going to say it's a yum+ with a heavy black cherry note.

                                                1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Jan 20, 2010 10:46 AM

                                                  1998 Domaine de la Charbonnière Châteauneuf du Pape Les Hautes Brusquières Cuvée Spéciale

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                                                    ibstatguy RE: wineguy7 Jan 20, 2010 12:28 PM

                                                    now THAT'S a wine!! I'm a big Charbonniere fan...

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                                                      wineguy7 RE: ibstatguy Jan 20, 2010 12:39 PM

                                                      This has got to be the tightest CdP I've had from the '98 vintage. It has finally opened and is drinking well. Thankfully, I still have a few of these left to enjoy!

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                                                        Pigloader RE: wineguy7 Jan 21, 2010 03:33 AM

                                                        Just picked up some of the 07s... won't be laying a finger on them for some time. I like Charbonniere a lot myself.

                                                  2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jan 22, 2010 09:34 AM

                                                    2004 Domaine Latour-Giraud Meursault 1er Cru Les Perrières

                                                    1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Jan 23, 2010 06:07 AM

                                                      Last night was a 2003 Fiddlehead 728 pinot noir. Absolutely gorgeous! Gotta loved aged Santa Rita Hills pinot! YUM!

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                                                        triggs73 RE: njfoodies Jan 23, 2010 07:34 AM

                                                        Have you has their Sauv Blanc? I heard it was amazing.

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                                                          njfoodies RE: triggs73 Jan 23, 2010 11:11 AM

                                                          Yes, many times and love it! Definitely our go to and favorite sauvignon blanc from California. Still sitting on a few bottles of teh '04, but it was a treat the last time we had it. Really nice nectar and clove qualities in these wines! Also check out their Pink Fiddle rose! -mJ

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                                                            triggs73 RE: njfoodies Jan 23, 2010 12:23 PM

                                                            I've heard about them, but cannot get them in CT

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                                                              njfoodies RE: triggs73 Jan 28, 2010 09:49 AM

                                                              They still don't ship to NJ unfortunately, so if we order direct, they have to go to offist.e Thankfully we can usually find their rose and sauv blanc in store, and I've picked up their pinot on a few ocassions locally as well. Such great juice! -mJ

                                                      2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jan 23, 2010 08:11 PM

                                                        2006 Leth Grüner Veltliner Lagenreserve Steinagrund Wagram - very inexpensive and very drinkable

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                                                          wynner RE: ibstatguy Jan 26, 2010 10:54 AM

                                                          2007 Terry Hoage Vineyards "Skins" beautifully elegant grenache shows fantastically accurate varietal characteristics. goregeous wine
                                                          2006 Saxum Bone Rock - extracted beautiful mouthfeel nicely integrated rounded tannins and lingering finish
                                                          2005 Lewis Hillstone Vineyard - hugely extracted and a little planky. needs more time to integrate the wood which is overwhelming now

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                                                          mengathon RE: njfoodies Jan 26, 2010 11:54 AM

                                                          Drinking more than my share, again...

                                                          Ceretto Bricco Rocche Barolo 'Prapo' 97 - The most ready of the evening. Soaring aromatics, yet still developing. Shut down or died after a while. Please do not decant. Just drink it!
                                                          Paolo Scavino Barolo 'Cannubi' 97 - Tight and compact, darker and denser than the Prapo. Weightier mouthfeel as well. Decant.
                                                          Giacosa Barbaresco 'Asili' 98 - Classic nebbiolo, still too young. The nose was somewhat muted, but a little atypically rich mouthfeel for a Giacosa.
                                                          Clerico Barolo Percristina 00 - Double decanted, after which the textbook menthol and herbaceousness came pouring out. Great fruit on the palate. Silky finish. Gorgeous. Best nebbiolo of the evening.
                                                          Gaja Barbaresco 00 - textbook Gaja. Great wine, if someone else were paying for it! Still overpriced in my book.
                                                          Jacques Prieur Puligny-Montrachet 'Les Combettes' 06 - The best Puligny I have had in a long time, and a great example of what great white Burgundy should be. Expensive, but probably worth the money. Floral, decadent, balanced, minerally, super length, all rolled into one.
                                                          Marcassin Chardonnay Three Sisters 05 - Tasted after the Prieur, and tasted like baked almond, toasted coconut flavored motor oil. The tannic finish on the end was also bothersome. Not a fan. Stick to the pinots when they are young.
                                                          Kongsgaard Viorus 06 - the viognier adds a nice dimension to the wine. Relatively easy, and not overly oaky, with good acidity on the back end. Paled in comparison to the Prieur, but still very good. Should develop well in the short term.

                                                          1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Jan 27, 2010 07:03 AM

                                                            My last bottle of 2007 Graziano Fontana Sauvignon. Perhaps the last bottle I'll ever see as I understand the importer went out of business. I hope someone else can bring in this winery to the U.S.

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                                                              Steve_K RE: njfoodies Jan 27, 2010 08:58 AM


                                                              1999 Gosset Brabant Cuvee Gabriel Grand Cru Champagne
                                                              1996 Les Tourelles de Longueville Pauillac

                                                              1. Cookiefiend RE: njfoodies Jan 27, 2010 10:37 AM

                                                                2006 Tantara Pinot Noir Adobe Bien Nacido Vineyard.

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                                                                  Pigloader RE: njfoodies Jan 28, 2010 05:12 AM

                                                                  2005 Ch. Coupe Roses Minervois "L'Orience" and 07 Minervois "Granaxa." One of my favorite Languedoc producers-- these are their Syrah and Grenache based top-end cuvees, respectively. The Orience is tightly wound and sinewy at first, but fleshes out and blossoms beautifully after 20-30 minutes. Really great acidity and a pretty beam of minerality running through the middle of the palate. The Granaxa is softer, riper, with the oak treatment a bit more evident (also fairly young, so there you go)... bit like a really good rasteau. Fantastic stuff on both ends.

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                                                                    mengathon RE: njfoodies Jan 28, 2010 09:24 PM

                                                                    J.J. Prum Vertical

                                                                    08 Kabinett
                                                                    08 Wehlener Sonnenheur Kabinett
                                                                    04 Wehlener Sonnenheur Spatlese
                                                                    04 Graacher Himmelreich Spatlese
                                                                    94 Wehlener Sonnenheur Auslese
                                                                    82 Graacher Himmelreich Kabinett - 30 year old Kabinett! Unbelievable stuff.

                                                                    1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Feb 1, 2010 10:34 AM

                                                                      2007 Domaine de Fontsainte Corbieres rouge
                                                                      2007 Domaine de Piaugier Sablet Cotes du Rhone Villages

                                                                      1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Feb 1, 2010 11:10 AM

                                                                        2007 Auteur Hyde Vineyard last night that was fabulous! -mJ

                                                                        1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Feb 3, 2010 03:05 PM

                                                                          2005 Thomas Pinot Noir Dundee Hills

                                                                          1. Cookiefiend RE: njfoodies Feb 3, 2010 05:40 PM

                                                                            2006 Halleck, Hallberg Vineyard - better than I expected!

                                                                            1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Feb 3, 2010 05:49 PM

                                                                              Another '07 Auteur Hyde Chardonnay....can't stay away from this wine! -mJ

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                                                                                triggs73 RE: njfoodies Feb 4, 2010 05:37 AM

                                                                                2007 is a killer year for west coast too. I would be anxious to try this also!

                                                                              2. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Feb 7, 2010 07:30 AM

                                                                                Roederer Estate Extra Dry
                                                                                Roederer Estate Brut Rose'
                                                                                2007 Saracina Sauvignon Blanc
                                                                                2006 Saracina Atrea Red
                                                                                2007 Saracina Pinot Noir
                                                                                2005 Saracina Petite Sirah
                                                                                2007 Everett Ridge Rose'
                                                                                2005 Everett Ridge Diablita
                                                                                2006 Everett Ridge Cabernet Sauvignon
                                                                                2006 Everett Ridge Petite Sirah
                                                                                2005 Joseph Swan Syrah
                                                                                2005 Joseph Swan Zinfandel Lone Redwood Ranch
                                                                                2000 Chateau Cantemerle

                                                                                1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Feb 8, 2010 04:01 AM

                                                                                  From Friday night:
                                                                                  2005 Sea Smoke Pinot Noir Southing
                                                                                  2003 Tablas Creek Esprit de Beaucastel

                                                                                  From Saturday night:
                                                                                  2006 Chateau Montelena Zinfandel The Montelena Estate

                                                                                  1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Feb 8, 2010 05:12 AM

                                                                                    N.V. Vilmart Champagne Brut 1er Cru Cuvee Rubis with fried chicken during the Super Bowl...

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                                                                                      mengathon RE: ibstatguy Feb 11, 2010 02:04 PM

                                                                                      Pio Cesare Barolo 05
                                                                                      Pierre Usseglio Châteauneuf-du-Pape 05

                                                                                      with pizza.

                                                                                    2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Feb 11, 2010 02:15 PM

                                                                                      2002 Bodegas Pintia (Vega-Sicilia) Toro Pintia

                                                                                      1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Feb 11, 2010 02:17 PM

                                                                                        2004 Domaine des Baumard Crémant de Loire

                                                                                        1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Feb 11, 2010 07:54 PM

                                                                                          I bought a bottle of 2008 Joel Gott Sauvignon Blanc today at Rainbow Grocery for $10.99. I will not be purchasing this wine again. It was flaccid, melony, and my first clue should have been "cellared and bottled by Joel Gott".

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                                                                                            duck833 RE: njfoodies Feb 11, 2010 07:58 PM

                                                                                            Drinking my 06 Oregon Pinot Noir's as fast as I can. I need the room for all the 08's I have bought and are coming in. Have 8 cases of 06 left so I need to stay focused on the mission.

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                                                                                              ibstatguy RE: duck833 Feb 12, 2010 07:10 AM


                                                                                            2. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Feb 14, 2010 11:06 AM

                                                                                              2007 Hugel Pinot Blanc
                                                                                              2006 Noceto Riserva Sangiovese

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                                                                                                mengathon RE: njfoodies Feb 14, 2010 09:28 PM

                                                                                                Nicolas Joly Savennières Clos de la Coulée de Serrant 04

                                                                                                Decanted 6 hours, experimented with temperature. Joly is completely right. Serving at room temperature is a must!

                                                                                                Unique and lovely. Preferred it to a 95 Coulée de Serrant Moelleux, which was also delicious.

                                                                                                1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Feb 16, 2010 09:29 AM

                                                                                                  Over the weekend:
                                                                                                  1995 Sanford Pinot Noir Barrel Select
                                                                                                  1975 Chateau Leoville Las Cases

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                                                                                                    ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Feb 16, 2010 02:49 PM

                                                                                                    '75 Las Cases?? and.......

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                                                                                                      njfoodies RE: ibstatguy Feb 22, 2010 04:38 AM

                                                                                                      My notes from CellarTracker: I was very skeptical about this bottle, but knew that it has been well stored in our cellar for the last few years. Popped and poured tonight, Valentine's Day at Tastebuds in New Hope, PA. This was a classic example of a mature Bordeaux, from what was supposed to be a weak vintage. Regardless, this showed well, and had a good fill well into the neck. Cork was soaked 80% of the way through, with the faintest sign of mold under the foil. Nonetheless, it came out in one piece, which surprised me...or maybe our server was just that good with the corkscrew! Regardless, we gave him a nice taste, and he seemed to appreciate and enjoy it. Good on ya! Nice to see someone with a nice appreciation for the nectar of the God's at a BYOB! Deep garnet color in the glass, with the slightest bit of bricking, but this was more of a purple color with a slight fading around the rim, which surprised me. A bit of band aid on the nose, with some nice hints of cherry, pencil lead, wet slate, tobacco, leather and cedar. There was also the slightest bit of sweetness on the nose. On the palate, I was absolutely shocked, not expecting much in the least. Very nice mature cherry and strawberry on the palate, with a little bit of spice and cedar/leather. Some other red fruits were on the palate, but didn't really dominate, and were hard to identify, but had some berry like qualities. Overall, I was surprised there was as much fruit on the palate as there was. The finish was nothing to write home about, and albeit a bit short, it was smooth, the acidity was nice, and the tannins were well integrated. It was no 1982, but it was nice and pleasant, and worth of 92 points. -mJ

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                                                                                                    swoll50 RE: njfoodies Feb 18, 2010 02:21 PM

                                                                                                    my go to wines most of the time are D'Arenberg Stump Jump or Feudo Arancio Nero D'Avola.

                                                                                                    1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Feb 22, 2010 07:17 AM

                                                                                                      Over the weekend: 2007 Siduri Santa Rita Hills. Definitely still young, but has great potential and a good QPR. -mJ

                                                                                                      1. scrappydog RE: njfoodies Feb 23, 2010 12:25 PM

                                                                                                        Hosted a champagne tasting for 12 people featuring the following:

                                                                                                        A - Pierre Gimonet Blanc de Blancs
                                                                                                        B - Pierre Peters Blanc de Blancs
                                                                                                        C - Lallier Cuvee EnzoE Brut
                                                                                                        D - Rene Geoffroy Brut
                                                                                                        E - Gosset Brut
                                                                                                        F - Billecart Salmon Brut Rose
                                                                                                        G - H Billiot Fils Brut Rose
                                                                                                        H - Rene Geoffroy Brut Rose

                                                                                                        The WOTN by popular vote was H - Rene Geoffroy Brut Rose. Runner up was F - Billecart Salmon Brut Rose.

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                                                                                                          ibstatguy RE: scrappydog Feb 24, 2010 05:05 AM

                                                                                                          I am not all surprised by the voting on the Geoffroy Rose. It really floored me when I first had it and it has never disappointed.

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                                                                                                            scrappydog RE: ibstatguy Feb 24, 2010 03:54 PM

                                                                                                            It is the first time I have tried it. I would definitely buy it again. We served it with a variety of heavy appetizers, but it has me thinking about some potential food pairings.Recommended by a wine shop owner that knows me well. Another example of the benefits of dealing with a good local wine shop.

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                                                                                                              ibstatguy RE: scrappydog Feb 25, 2010 10:43 AM

                                                                                                              if you've not previously done so, I urge you to read Terry Thiese's annual champagne catalog...

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                                                                                                          mengathon RE: njfoodies Feb 23, 2010 05:37 PM

                                                                                                          Pojer e Sandri Rosso Faye 01, Trentino

                                                                                                          50% Cabernet, remainder Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Lagrein.

                                                                                                          Took awhile in the decanter. A leaner, mineral driven style of a Bordeaux blend. Quite nice, if unspectacular.

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                                                                                                            BigWoodenSpoon RE: mengathon Feb 25, 2010 01:17 PM

                                                                                                            1974 Pedroncelli Cabernet Sauvignon: Opened at the winery and shared with folks in the Tasting Room and with the winemaker at Frick: Slightly burnt toast and jam with a little fig.
                                                                                                            Held up pretty well considering it was only 12% alcohol and we did a side-by-side with the same wine's current vintage. Sooo fun!

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                                                                                                            mengathon RE: njfoodies Feb 28, 2010 10:13 PM

                                                                                                            Fun night out with work folks.

                                                                                                            José Dhondt Blanc de Blancs 'Mes Vielles Vignes' '01 magnum - not particularly interesting. Out of a 750, would be rather bland. On the other hand, has anyone had a bad champagne out of a magnum??
                                                                                                            Dom Ruinart Blanc de Blancs '96 - infanticide. The fruit isn't quite there yet, though the acidity sure is. gorgeous wine, but probably needed to be decanted. the nutty and spice characteristics came out after a bit in the glass. Tight. Open again in 5 years or so.
                                                                                                            Domaine de Solitude Cuvée Barberini '01 - Dark, syrah-ish CdP. Super extracted, which was unexpected. The nose was a little hot, and the barnyard blew off in the glass. Loads of glycerin, and almost amarone-like. Rich, fat, alcoholic. Probably at peak. I expected a more elegant wine, but almost the opposite style. Still very good quality, and excellent QPR.
                                                                                                            Domaine des Lises Crozes-Hermitage '07 - much better than the 06. Black pepper, crushed raspberries. Very typical Northern Rhône from a good vintage. Exceptional wine for the price.

                                                                                                            1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Mar 3, 2010 07:17 AM

                                                                                                              Opened Monday night, and had another glass last night:
                                                                                                              2007 Stefania Haut Tubee

                                                                                                              Will probably finish the bottle off last night. Opened up very nicely from Monday to Tuesday! Heck of a great QPR! -mJ

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                                                                                                                jonapurcell RE: njfoodies Mar 3, 2010 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                drinking REAL red Burgundy from France ....purchased for as little as $9. Drinking REAL white burgundy for as little as $5....2005, 2002, 2001, 1999, etc and prior leftovers!! Why drink he fake stuff when you can have the real thing??

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                                                                                                                  westsidegal RE: jonapurcell May 27, 2010 09:27 PM

                                                                                                                  wonder, with the current weakness of the euro, whether there will be some good opportunities along those lines arising this year. . . .

                                                                                                                2. Cookiefiend RE: njfoodies Mar 3, 2010 06:11 PM

                                                                                                                  1999 Lancaster - dark, black cherry and a bit of anise at the end, delicious.

                                                                                                                  1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Mar 4, 2010 06:40 AM

                                                                                                                    2004 Vigneti Massa Pertichetta Croatina from southern Piedmont (Colli Tortonesi DOC).

                                                                                                                    Spice, earth, menthol, mineral, juicy red fruits, power and length.

                                                                                                                    1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Mar 7, 2010 03:45 PM

                                                                                                                      2004 Domaine Combier St. Veran "La Goutte du Charme"
                                                                                                                      1996 Domaine Mussy Beaune-Epenottes Premier Cru
                                                                                                                      1996 Jean-Claude Belland Corton Greves Grand Cru
                                                                                                                      1996 Ciabot Berton Barolo "Roggeri" Magnum

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                                                                                                                        njfoodies RE: wineguy7 Mar 8, 2010 04:57 AM

                                                                                                                        Over the weekend:

                                                                                                                        N.V. Dr. Konstantin Frank Riesling Célèbre
                                                                                                                        2008 Frank Family Vineyards Chardonnay Lewis Vineyard
                                                                                                                        2006 Stefania Cabernet Sauvignon Santa Cruz Mountains

                                                                                                                        Saturday: 2006 Kosta Browne Pinot Noir Russian River Valley

                                                                                                                        Sunday: 2006 Cambria Pinot Noir Julia's Vineyard

                                                                                                                      2. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Mar 10, 2010 10:13 AM

                                                                                                                        2008 Doniene Gorrondona D.O. Bizkaiko Txakolina Tinto. Made from 100% Hondarribi Beltza grapes. Winery claims the vines are over 100 years old. Tank fermented. Light to medium bodied. Notes of bell pepper, red fruit and mineral. Medium acidity and tannin.

                                                                                                                        1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Mar 11, 2010 04:40 AM

                                                                                                                          Mini CellarTracker offline last night with:
                                                                                                                          2005 Alma Rosa Pinot Noir La Encantada Vineyard
                                                                                                                          2006 Folio (Michael Mondavi Family) Cabernet Sauvignon Emblem Oso Vineyard

                                                                                                                          1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Mar 13, 2010 10:40 AM

                                                                                                                            2007 Le Fraghe Bardolino Chiaretto. On a rainy day it made me feel like spring is on it's way!

                                                                                                                            1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Mar 20, 2010 10:18 AM

                                                                                                                              Had a glass of Red Truck pinot noir last night at a restaurant we went to. UGH! Not the typical pinot I have grown acustomed to, and should have known better. -mJ

                                                                                                                              1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Mar 21, 2010 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                1998 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Jennifer's: Popped and poured, initially this wine was showing a beautiful nose of dark cherries and blackberry, but nothing but sour prune juice on the palate, and was very unpleasant. Left the bottle on the counter and pulled an '03 Fiddlehead 728 pinot to drink instead. After finishing the Fiddlehead a few hours later, we revisited this bottle, and it opened up and gained some flavor, but is definitely over the hill. Those nose still showed the same, but now added hints of brown sugar and some jammy raspberry. On the palate, the prune was gone, but the fruit was still in the background, showing to be very tired and subdued. This bottle was definitely over the hill, and storage just may have been an issue with this bottle. Some subtle strawberry on the palate, but the wine was thin and tired. Short finish, with some acidity. Drink 'em if you got 'em. 82 points.

                                                                                                                                2003 Fiddlehead Cellars Pinot Noir Seven Twenty Eight Fiddlestix: I grabbed this bottle out of the cellar tonight after a '98 Harford Court Jennifer's pinot noir I opened was showing nothing at all on the palate, and was unpleasant. Unfortunately, this bottle didn't have the wow factor that several other bottles have had as recently as January of this year. Even so, this was still a pleasure to drink, and we love Kathy Joseph's wines. As always, that beautiful Santa Rita Hills nose with that earthiness that is so distinguishing. Nice black cherry, pomegranate, and raspberry, with some oak, spice, and brown sugar. On the palate, there was a bit of bittnerness, which is out character for Fiddlehead. Some strawberry and black cherry dominated, with subtle hints of spice, and surprisingly, there was really no cola on this wine at all. The finish was typical Fiddlehead, and berry, I mean very pleasant, but it just didn't live up to the greatness of other bottles. Even so, it was still nice to drink, and we look forward to some other bottles in the future. 88 points.

                                                                                                                                1. njfoodies RE: njfoodies Mar 29, 2010 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                  From the weekend:

                                                                                                                                  Friday: A house Italian blend at a restaurant...Centine something....decent for a by the glass wine, but not all that inspiring.

                                                                                                                                  Saturday: 2006 Tobin James Cabernet Sauvignon James Gang Reserve: An alcoholic oak bomb and a mess. Formal notes in the morning, but out of all the bottles of Tobin James we've had. I think I liked this one the least. Seems more and more that my palate doesn't enjoy these wines like it once did.

                                                                                                                                  Sunday: 1999 Hartford Court Pinot Noir Marin - Popped and poured at Lorena's in Maplewood, NJ today over lunch with friends, and this drank well from the get go. Nice dark cherry and raspberry nose, with subtle Asian spice and cedar notes. Much of the same on the palate, wih nice fruit. Cherry and strawberry were the shining star here, with a nice acidity, and clean finish. A classic example of a good, mature, California pinot noir. Drink 'em if you got 'em, and decant for sediment. 91 points.

                                                                                                                                  1996 Louis Jadot Clos Vougeot - good friends Steve and Sue brought this along today to Lorena’s in Maplewood, NJ, and what a treat it was! Gorgeous ruby color in the glass, still thinning towards the rim and showing its youth. This had a really nice earthy nose, with some deep black cherry, earth, soil, and mushroom, with faint hints of spice. There was very little alcohol on the nose, but a bit still showing its youth. On the palate, this wine seemed really young, and just goes to show how well Burgundy, when properly stored can age. Nice raspberry and cherry tones on the palate, with some old world earthiness to it. Nice spice and acidity, with a smooth finish made this wine very pleasurable. I could easily see this wine lasting another 10 years plus, so if you have them in the cellar, do yourself a favor and give it another 5 years on its side, and I think you’ll be in for a great treat. 93 points.

                                                                                                                                  1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Mar 29, 2010 04:09 PM

                                                                                                                                    2008 Mantlerhof Roter Veltliner Reisenthal. It's a white wine from Austria. Very aromatic and crisp; light, but long on the palate.

                                                                                                                                    1. Nestra RE: njfoodies Apr 3, 2010 07:28 PM

                                                                                                                                      I don't have a huge budget for wines, but instead tent to purchase in the $10-$20 range, so please read the following with that in mind. :)

                                                                                                                                      I just opened a bottle of Cupcake Vineyards Merlot. It is quite nice. I've also been drinking a funky little Washington Reisling (a slightly dry reisling) called Kung Fu Girl and my old faithful - Mad Housewife Merlot.

                                                                                                                                      Does anyone have any suggestions for a silky, non-acidic red? I prefer less "smoke" flavor as well. I fell in love with Hope Estate Shiraz back in 2005, but I am not a fan of the 2008. I am having a hard time finding exactly what I want in a red. Any help from you experts out there would be greatly appreciated. I am still a baby when it comes to exploring the world of red wine. I know I prefer it to white, but finding a white I enjoy is a lot easier... if that makes any sense!

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                                                                                                                                        njfoodies RE: Nestra Apr 6, 2010 10:47 AM

                                                                                                                                        Someone brought a bottle of Kung Fu Girl to an offline last summer, and I am glad they did. This was a surprisingly good wine for what it costs. I'd have no problem with that as a summer sipper, althought I tend to buy Snoqualmie over the Kung Fu Girl. Heck of a nice QPR though.

                                                                                                                                        Check out Woop Woop Shiraz. The newer vintages do nothing for me, but they are greawt with a few years in the bottle for the money. The '05 is drinking really nice right now. -mJ

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                                                                                                                                        mengathon RE: njfoodies Apr 6, 2010 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                        Brovia Barolo 'Rocche' '01
                                                                                                                                        Lovely. All savory, tar, flowers, and spices, though still significant tannins. Still, an excellent drinking Barolo. Would love to see where it goes in five more years. Alas, there is no more.

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                                                                                                                                          ibstatguy RE: mengathon Apr 7, 2010 09:38 PM

                                                                                                                                          still drinking well I see...

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                                                                                                                                            mengathon RE: ibstatguy Apr 8, 2010 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                            Life's too short to drink bad wine! Next up is the Mascarello Santo Stefano di Perno '01.

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                                                                                                                                              ibstatguy RE: mengathon Apr 8, 2010 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                                              Here's a few that I've had lately: 2007 Merry Edwards Pinot Noir Russian River Valley ; 1996 Jacquesson & Fils Champagne Signature Extra Brut ; 2004 Michel Gay Aloxe-Corton ; 2005 Alban Vineyards Syrah Reva Alban Estate Vineyard ; 2006 Blankiet Estate Rive Droite Paradise Hills Vineyard ; 1992 Henri Bonneau Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Marie Beurrier ; N.V. Veuve Fourny & Fils Champagne Brut 1er Cru Blanc de Blancs ; N.V. L. Aubry Fils Champagne Rosé Brut ; 2004 Lewis Cellars Alec's Blend

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                                                                                                                                                mengathon RE: ibstatguy Apr 8, 2010 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                grrr. Never could find enough of the 96 Jacquesson....

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                                                                                                                                                  ibstatguy RE: mengathon Apr 8, 2010 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                  niether could I and I only have 1 bottle left...

                                                                                                                                        2. scrappydog RE: njfoodies Apr 8, 2010 02:48 PM

                                                                                                                                          At a recent bar-b-que for a crowd, a couple of magnums of the 2003 Silver Oak Alexander Valley. Served direct from the bottles with no decanting. I know this wine has its detractors, but it was a crowd pleaser at this event. Deep purple, nice mouth feel, tastes of dark cherry, cocao and a little spice. Medium long finish.

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                                                                                                                                            mengathon RE: njfoodies Apr 10, 2010 09:24 PM

                                                                                                                                            Rousseau Mazy-Chambertin 97

                                                                                                                                            Holy crikes. The purity of fresh fruit was still there. Extremely elegant, with truffly, earthier secondary aromas emerging. The acidity was, as they say, like a laser beam. Right up there with the La Tâche 02 in terms of overall quality of Burgundy at its very best.

                                                                                                                                            Yes, still drinking well, and more than my fair share...

                                                                                                                                            1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies May 5, 2010 10:41 PM

                                                                                                                                              NV Borgo Maragliano Chardonnay Brut. It's a crisp, sparkling wine from Piemonte and it was delicious on this perfect spring day.

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                                                                                                                                                triggs73 RE: njfoodies May 8, 2010 02:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                2006 Pride Merlot
                                                                                                                                                2006 Black Coyote Cabernet Reserve

                                                                                                                                                1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies May 14, 2010 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                  2004 Behrens & Hitchcock St. Augustine 2006 Thomas Pinot Noir Dundee Hills N.V. René Geoffroy Champagne Brut Rosé Premier Cru 1996 Jacquesson & Fils Champagne Signature Extra Brut 2007 Montirius Vacqueyras Le Clos 2004 Dehlinger Cabernet Sauvignon Estate Bottled 2007 Château de Campuget Costières-de-Nîmes Rose Rhone Wine 2005 Bodegas Emilio Moro Ribera del Duero Malleolus 2005 Drinkward Peschon Cabernet Sauvignon Entre Deux Mères

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                                                                                                                                                    tito RE: ibstatguy May 26, 2010 08:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I love Drinkward Peschon`!!!! I have 6 bottles of the 2006 resting comfortably in my cellar

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                                                                                                                                                      ibstatguy RE: tito May 26, 2010 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                      very nice wine, I agree

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                                                                                                                                                    mengathon RE: njfoodies May 17, 2010 05:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Rene Geoffroy Rosé de Saignée, Brut
                                                                                                                                                    Dagueneau Pouilly-Fumé Pur Sang 07
                                                                                                                                                    Bois de Boursan CdP Cuvée de Felix 03

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                                                                                                                                                      ibstatguy RE: mengathon May 17, 2010 05:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                      that Geoffrey rose is GREAT stuff

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                                                                                                                                                        mengathon RE: ibstatguy May 18, 2010 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Probably the least expensive saignée I've seen too...

                                                                                                                                                    2. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies May 19, 2010 08:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                      2007 Ca Viola Dolcetto d'Alba "Vilot". Inky, dense, full bodied, with great length as well as depth of fruit and mineral.

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                                                                                                                                                        lmrobles RE: njfoodies May 21, 2010 09:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Shingleback sparkling Shiraz
                                                                                                                                                        Domaine St. Michelle (for mimosas!)
                                                                                                                                                        1997 & 1996 Duval & Leroy Brut
                                                                                                                                                        1999 Arglye Knudsen Vineyard Brut (Dundee Hills)
                                                                                                                                                        2004 Erath La Nuit Magique Pinot Noir
                                                                                                                                                        2003 Hegarty Chamans NO. 2 Minervois (Rationing my last 8 bottles)
                                                                                                                                                        2006 Chateau St. Michelle Cab. Sav.
                                                                                                                                                        2007 Chateau St. Michelle Cab. Sav. Indian Wells
                                                                                                                                                        I'm saving a 2003 Trentadue La Storia Petite Sirah for special occasion.

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                                                                                                                                                          mengathon RE: njfoodies May 24, 2010 06:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Jacques Selosse Extra Brut, Versione Originale
                                                                                                                                                          Von Schubert Grünhauser Herrenberg Auslese 97

                                                                                                                                                          Now I get what the fuss is about. Possibly the best NV champagne I've tasted, as good or better than the Krug. It has the richness and intensity of the Grande Cuvée, but more elegant, more floral notes, and livelier. And the bubbles!!! So fine! And better than just about every vintage champagne I've tried. I've change my mind. Salon is no longer the one bottle of champagne a champagne lover should try before he dies. It's Selosse!

                                                                                                                                                          1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies May 26, 2010 09:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                            2008 La Parrina Bianco, Parrina DOC. Trebbiano, Chardonnay, Sauvignon Blanc blend.

                                                                                                                                                            1. wineguy7 RE: njfoodies Jun 2, 2010 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                              2008 Domaine Jean-Pierre et Jean-François Quénard Chignin
                                                                                                                                                              2008 Donkey and Goat Syrah El Dorado

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                                                                                                                                                                mengathon RE: njfoodies Jul 11, 2010 07:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                World Cup party! In order of consumption.

                                                                                                                                                                Champagne Nicolas Feuillatte Cuvée Spéciale 00
                                                                                                                                                                Corton-Charlemagne Guyon 99
                                                                                                                                                                Macon-Villages Jadot 08
                                                                                                                                                                Pouilly-Fumé Didier Dagueneau Silex 07
                                                                                                                                                                Bergström Pinot Noir Cumberland Reserve 06
                                                                                                                                                                Nuits-St.-Georges Sylvain Cathiard 1er Cru Aux Murgers 06
                                                                                                                                                                Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine Beaurenard Boisrenard 07
                                                                                                                                                                Hermitage Paul Jaboulet-Aîné La Chappelle 05
                                                                                                                                                                Champagne Mumm Cuvée R Lalou 98

                                                                                                                                                                One of the best days of wine with great company, great food, and a great view!

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                                                                                                                                                                  ibstatguy RE: mengathon Jul 12, 2010 02:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  how was the Dagenueau?

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                                                                                                                                                                    mengathon RE: ibstatguy Jul 12, 2010 07:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    The Pur Sang 07 was much better. The Silex has more richness, and higher acidity as well. Tasted a bit disjointed, and the nose was very closed. Should have decanted. I wouldnt open the next bottle for a few more years, and I tend to like his wines relatively young.

                                                                                                                                                                2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jul 12, 2010 02:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  '94 Insignia; '95 Tattinger; '04 Seasmoke Ten; '05 Seasmoke Southing; Rene Geoffrey Brut rose; '07 Merry Edwards Coopersmith; '06 Blankiet Rive Droite

                                                                                                                                                                  1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Jul 12, 2010 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    consumed during a picnic on a bike tour of Versailles: Ch. de Puligny Montrachet rose de pinot noir

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                                                                                                                                                                      wineguy7 RE: ibstatguy Jul 17, 2010 04:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Had a bottle of the '09 last night. I love that wine...

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                                                                                                                                                                      Maximilien RE: njfoodies Jul 13, 2010 03:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Opened a "Clos Du Marquis" Saint Julien 2004 last week-end.
                                                                                                                                                                      It was sitting in my cupboard for a couple of years now, and since we had a couple of rough days (hot, humid) recently and thaht the storage conditions are not perfect, I decided to give it a try.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not a huge Bordeaux drinker, IMO for Québec prices, there are lots of better wines for the same Q/P range, but once in a while, nothing wrong with that!

                                                                                                                                                                      Put it in the fridge a couple of hours before, room temp. was 30c +, so a bit too much, served and enjoyed completely, warmed a bit in the glasses, and expressed it's aroma and flavour favourably.

                                                                                                                                                                      Some was left out, and corked the bottle and put back in the fridge for 48 hours, and what was left was still very good (all things considered).

                                                                                                                                                                      In good condition, this wine could have stand 2, 3 more years in the cellar.

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                                                                                                                                                                        mengathon RE: njfoodies Jul 30, 2010 10:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Aubert Chardonnay Hyde and Sons 08 - as a friend said, I did not know you could use 110% new oak...
                                                                                                                                                                        Brunello Riserva Poggio Antico 01 - don't decant older sangiovese! this was great right out of the bottle, but in a decanter, the aromatics started to fade.
                                                                                                                                                                        Corton Charlemagne Patrick Javailler 00 - well developed nose, palate falls off a little, probably at peak, if not a little past. not the biggest fan of Corton Charlemagne in general, but this was a pretty good example.
                                                                                                                                                                        Chambertin Denis Mortet 97 magnum - outstanding. gorgeous nose, the oak has settled and would be perfect pairing with mushrooms
                                                                                                                                                                        Ch. Latour 88 double magnum - still just a baby. extremely dense and dark. the fruit began emerging after a good time in the decanter. super long finish. should have left it for another 22 years.

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                                                                                                                                                                          RicRios RE: mengathon Jul 30, 2010 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          "don't decant older sangiovese" : agree 100%

                                                                                                                                                                          "not the biggest fan of Corton Charlemagne in general" : shame on you, mengathon!
                                                                                                                                                                          (yours truly is a big fan of anything Corton)

                                                                                                                                                                          A decanter for a double magnum? Wow! Was it from Lalique?

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                                                                                                                                                                            mengathon RE: RicRios Jul 30, 2010 11:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            The Antico decant was a mistake, and yet it was done over my objections. Note to everyone who might be reading: stop treating sangiovese like cabernet!!! it's wrong!! treat it like Burgundy!!

                                                                                                                                                                            I'm all ears regarding Corton. Help me! I do like some of the Prieur's, but the prices are not particularly attractive? Chevalier-Montrachet, OTOH....

                                                                                                                                                                            Oops. Should have clarified. We had three magnum decanters that we used instead of one double magnum decanter. The menthol notes were glorious. Still, killed a baby...

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                                                                                                                                                                              RicRios RE: mengathon Jul 30, 2010 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              If you pass by Pernand-Vergelesses, don't miss a visit to Domaine Rapet Père et Fils. Both their grand crus Corton Charlemagne and Corton Pougets are consistently outstanding and very reasonably priced.

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                                                                                                                                                                          RicRios RE: njfoodies Jul 30, 2010 06:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Chinese doctor said I should quit wine, due to "liver wind" condition ( you know, liver in Chinese medicine equates with wood, wood needs water, alcohol dehydrates; OTOH honey is good, &etc.)
                                                                                                                                                                          So I brought him a bottle of 2004 Nicolas Joly Savennières-Coulée de Serrant.
                                                                                                                                                                          Now we're on much better terms.
                                                                                                                                                                          To celebrate, I opened today a 2000 Malescot St. Exupéry (Margaux).
                                                                                                                                                                          Sweet spot perfect!
                                                                                                                                                                          I must agree 100% with the Guru:

                                                                                                                                                                          "This estate has been making fine wine for over a decade but never receives the attention it deserves. A great effort, the 2000 Malescot St.-Exupery exhibits a deep ruby/purple color along with a sweet nose of high quality oak, minerals, tobacco, black currants, and intriguing floral and anise notes. A wine of great purity, flavor concentration, and uncanny depth that seems to build in the mouth, this is a classic example of a quintessentially elegant, medium to full-bodied Bordeaux that is light on its feet, and impressively nuanced, yet concentrated. Gorgeous! Anticipated maturity: 2007-2022. "

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                                                                                                                                                                            mengathon RE: RicRios Jul 30, 2010 09:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Nice work. I believe Coulée de Serrant will convince anyone and everyone that wine is good for you!

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                                                                                                                                                                            mengathon RE: njfoodies Aug 4, 2010 08:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            Hanzell Chardonnay Sonoma Coast 86
                                                                                                                                                                            CdP Beacuastel 83

                                                                                                                                                                            Hanzell was done. Not exactly DOA, but very oxidized. On the first nose, I would have guessed old chenin. Still interesting as a curiousity, but not much more.

                                                                                                                                                                            Beaucastel... loads of mourvèdre character, super dirty on the nose. The palate was still full of fruit, and there was still a good amount of acidity left. did not decant. upon opening, thought it was a little bit over the hill. over time, in the glass, the fruit aromas began to emerge, and this wine was still as solid as can be. for a mediocre vintage, this really shows the staying power of a great wine. probably still would not decant, but a giant burgundy bowl would be nice.

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                                                                                                                                                                              anewton RE: mengathon Aug 4, 2010 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              I attended a vertical Beaucastel tasting earlier this year that was one of the highlights of my admittedly young foray into wine appreciation. We did not taste the 83 but did greatly enjoy the 89, 90, 94, 95, 98, 2000, 2004, and 2007. Of these, I admired the 90 and the 2004 the most, but I could tell the 2007 is going to be a humdinger one of these days.

                                                                                                                                                                              How long should a bottle from a good vintage of Beaucastel be cellared? The 89 I tried was great but was perhaps starting to fade a bit?

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                                                                                                                                                                                mengathon RE: anewton Aug 4, 2010 12:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Please take all of this with a grain of salt, as my experience with older CdP is, as well, admittedly limited. Begin rant!

                                                                                                                                                                                1. This may espouse some serious hate mail, but in general, I am not a fan of aging most red wines too long. Most do best between 10-15 years. Some people like them, but in my experience, there are very few wines that should go past 15-20 years, large formats excepted. These would include first growth Bordeaux, some of the top second growths in outstanding vintages(the Léovilles, the Pichons, la Mission, et al), the great Right Banks, the great Grand Cru Burgundies, some of the very top 1er Crus in outstanding years, top Northern Rhône producers, top Barolo and Barbaresco producers, and a smattering of wines from Veneto and Campania. That's really about it for me. Brunellos? For the most part, 15 years is good. Super Tuscans? Again, 20+ is really pushing it. Case in point: 1985 Sassicaia, supposedly one of the greatest wines in modern Italian wine. Tried a small amount earlier this year: great, but clearly past peak; the fruit was mostly gone. And this wine I know for a fact was stored in impeccable conditions.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. I love CdPs in all their forms and styles. But I especially love ones that are mostly super old grenache: Marcoux VV, Janasse Chaupin, Usseglio Mon Aïeul. Personally, I do not want these wines too old, lest they lose the purity of grenache fruit. Beaucastel is a very different style of wine, and with the higher percentage of syrah and mourvèdre, I feel it, and a wine like Vieux Télégraphe, ages better than most CdPs. I think your vertical tasting is probably your best guide. As far as I know, 89 was a pretty good year in Southern Rhône, and you mentioned that it was beginning to fade. 90 was a very good one in Rhône as well, and yet that was still going strong. Maybe just me, and not accounting for possible bottle variation, but why not drink both 5 years earlier? I'd rather take the chance that they are a little bit young, rather than a little bit old.

                                                                                                                                                                                The oldest CdP I had up to this point was an 88 Vieux Télégraphe 2 years ago. Drinking great, still vivacious, with no signs of fading. But will it improve with more time? I found it extremely unlikely.

                                                                                                                                                                                Definitely an over generalization, as with most great wines, I would think most Beaucastels would be very drinkable, and near peak at around 12-17, and barring exceptional vintages, few do better past 20. And that great vintage you've been saving? Don't worry, another one is right around the corner!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  RicRios RE: mengathon Aug 4, 2010 06:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  mengathon, mengathon, life ain't that simple.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I still have one 1945 Francisco Rinaldi Barolo, out of a lot of 9 I got once upon a time. The wine itself is fantastic, consistently so in 8 of the 9 bottles opened so far. Old certainly, but earthy, live, the true spirit of Piemonte I have never been able to taste in anything younger.

                                                                                                                                                                                  But it's not just that. Think for a moment 1945 was the first harvest after the war. Think what it meant to get that bottle done after all those nightmarish years, all the experiences the people that put them together must have gone through, the memory of companions lost, the incredible luck of having been through all that. If we like the taste, it must have been milk and honey from Paradise for those folks.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I can't avoid choking when I'm about to open one of those bottles.

                                                                                                                                                                                  And about what you said last: I wish another vintage like that is NOT around the corner.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    mengathon RE: RicRios Aug 4, 2010 06:32 PM


                                                                                                                                                                                    I would whole-heartedly agree with everything you just said. Wine, at its best, is an evocation of the senses, memories, and histories. A '45 Rinaldi is something i would treasure for a long time. Taste buds be damned! I was trying to suggest a prime drinking window without everything else that you mentioned which make wine so special.

                                                                                                                                                                                    And that last part I said was definitely a sarcastic remark, mostly in response to the 09 Bordeaux futures, the best in a a generation! Right on the heels of 05 and 00...

                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for sharing. Lovely words.

                                                                                                                                                                            2. Munchkin RE: njfoodies Aug 8, 2010 09:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Pazo Serantellos Albarino 2009 with lemon chicken, summer squash and dutch butter noodles.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Aug 14, 2010 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                1997 Château Palmer
                                                                                                                                                                                N.V. Paul Bara Champagne Brut Grand Cru Rosé
                                                                                                                                                                                1999 Domaine les Pallières Gigondas
                                                                                                                                                                                2004 Domaine des Tours Vin de Pays de Vaucluse
                                                                                                                                                                                N.V. Pierre Peters Champagne Blanc de Blancs Brut Cuvée de Réserve
                                                                                                                                                                                2005 Thomas Pinot Noir Dundee Hills
                                                                                                                                                                                2005 Paradigm Cabernet Sauvignon
                                                                                                                                                                                N.V. J. Lassalle Brut Rosé
                                                                                                                                                                                2005 Féraud-Brunel Côtes du Rhône Villages
                                                                                                                                                                                N.V. Jacquesson & Fils Champagne Cuvée No. 730
                                                                                                                                                                                2004 Dehlinger Syrah Estate

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                                                                                                                                                                                  mengathon RE: ibstatguy Aug 23, 2010 12:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm not the only one with a champagne fix, I see!

                                                                                                                                                                                  2006 Dogliani Abbona, "Papà Celso" with pizza

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                                                                                                                                                                                    ibstatguy RE: mengathon Aug 23, 2010 12:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    gotta have bubbles...

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Wayward biker RE: njfoodies Aug 26, 2010 02:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  A lovely Weiss Burgunder from along the Mosel. Dry but not as in a desert dryness. Flavorful and relatively light. If kept at honest to god cellar temp it's lovely as is, if stored in your house somewhere for example, it's drinkable taht way but better if lightly chilled.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Quaint little place, good Peach Schnapps from there also

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                                                                                                                                                                                    mengathon RE: njfoodies Aug 31, 2010 05:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Krug Grande Cuvée NV - never disappoints!
                                                                                                                                                                                    Rene Geoffroy, Empriente 04 - showing very well. one of the first 04s i have had.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Seven Springs Chardonnay, La Source, Eola Amity Hills 07 - super crisp, minimal new oak, smoky, stony, one of the finer examples of Oregon chardonnay
                                                                                                                                                                                    Nuits-St.-Georges, Domaine l'Arlot, Clos des Forêts 98 (magnum) - perfect with veal. at peak. delicate, very elegant. a top 1er cru. one of the best 98 NSGs I've had.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. invinotheresverde RE: njfoodies Sep 2, 2010 04:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Water. Being knocked up blows.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Sep 25, 2010 10:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        2001 J.L. Chave Sélection St. Joseph Offerus
                                                                                                                                                                                        2001 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Bourgogne Blanc
                                                                                                                                                                                        2008 Antica Terra Pinot Noir
                                                                                                                                                                                        2009 Château de Campuget Costières-de-Nîmes Rose Rhone Wine
                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Lucien Albrecht Crémant d'Alsace Brut Rosé
                                                                                                                                                                                        2007 Merry Edwards Pinot Noir Olivet Lane
                                                                                                                                                                                        2005 Féraud-Brunel Côtes du Rhône Villages
                                                                                                                                                                                        2002 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Puligny-Montrachet Le Trezin
                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Paul Bara Champagne Brut Grand Cru Rosé
                                                                                                                                                                                        2005 Dehlinger Pinot Noir Goldridge
                                                                                                                                                                                        2008 Domaine De Fonsainte Corbières Gris de Gris
                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Larmandier-Bernier Champagne Rosé de Saignée Premier Cru
                                                                                                                                                                                        2004 Domaine des Tours Vin de Pays de Vaucluse
                                                                                                                                                                                        2003 Ken Wright Pinot Blanc Freedom Hill Vineyard
                                                                                                                                                                                        2007 Roland Lavantureux Petit Chablis
                                                                                                                                                                                        2004 Blankiet Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Paradise Hills Vineyard

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                                                                                                                                                                                          mengathon RE: ibstatguy Sep 26, 2010 12:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Did the Offerus have any life left? Just curious to see if the Chave Selection wines can last a decade.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            ibstatguy RE: mengathon Sep 26, 2010 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            its probably at or around its peak now; decanted it; its a very nice mature Syrah

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                                                                                                                                                                                            invinotheresverde RE: ibstatguy Sep 26, 2010 04:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            The Albrecht is nice for cheapy bubbles and I love that Ken Wright.

                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Willem RE: njfoodies Oct 1, 2010 03:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Just saw this new thread now, great!
                                                                                                                                                                                            Ordered a lot nice stuff this week. First came in. Started simple this nice Friday evening. Jose Pariente Verdejo 2009. A good, nice, aromatic, flavoursome verdejo, he way it would be. 2009 is a nice but not great year, but this is certainly enjoyable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              mengathon RE: njfoodies Oct 11, 2010 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Massimo Rivetti Barbaresco Riserva Serraboella 01
                                                                                                                                                                                              Pierre Usseglio CdP Mon Aïeul 04
                                                                                                                                                                                              Joly Savennières Coulée de Serrant 04
                                                                                                                                                                                              Baumard Quarts de Chaume 02

                                                                                                                                                                                              An 01 Mascarello Santo Stefano di Perno was corked... too bad. was looking forward to that wine.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Willem RE: mengathon Oct 11, 2010 01:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                nice Loire wines! Just got myself some Francois Chidaine and Baumard for the weekend :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Willem RE: njfoodies Oct 11, 2010 01:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Johanneshof Reinisch Rotgipfler 2009 with pork & veg stir fry (soy sauce, ginger, garlic, stock) - nice combi, versatile wine

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Willem RE: njfoodies Oct 12, 2010 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Les Vins de Vienne, Cairanne, La Perdendaille 2006 - wow, stunningly balanced full velvety wine with matching acidity, and deep (not cheap) lush fruit aroma's and some nice violet and spice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Nov 8, 2010 07:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    seriously short of bubbles but heres some recent wines:
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2005 Weingut Blees-Ferber Piesporter Gärtchen Riesling Spätlese feinherb
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2008 Arterberry Maresh Pinot Noir Maresh Vineyard
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2008 McPrice Myers Syrah Larner Vineyard
                                                                                                                                                                                                    N.V. Lucien Albrecht Crémant d'Alsace Brut Rosé
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2009 Domaine Faury Syrah Vin de Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2007 Monasterio de Palazuelos Rueda
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2004 Domaine de la Charbonnière Vacqueyras
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2008 Denner "The Ditch Digger"
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2002 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Meursault En La Barre
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2004 Domaine Michel Gay et Fils Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru Les Vergelesses
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2004 Garric Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2005 La Grange de Quatre Sous Vin de Pays d'Oc Les Serrottes
                                                                                                                                                                                                    N.V. Larmandier-Bernier Champagne Rosé de Saignée Premier Cru

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      pantani RE: ibstatguy Nov 9, 2010 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Visited Denner winery recently after reading good things about them.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      The tasting was a big disappointment.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I would describe their wines as very strong, maybe they would be better after some years in the cellar. Some of my favorites right now are Adelaida, Halter Ranch, Beckmen, and Vina Robles.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I see mostly french an Italian wines mentioned here not much from California.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe I should start a "what California wine are you drinking" thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        ibstatguy RE: pantani Nov 9, 2010 01:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        the Denner wines are most certainly in a category that could be described as overblown or "hedonistic" (to borrow a favorite Parker description). That said, I do like the Ditch Digger. Nothing wrong with posting CA wines on this thread...I'm surprised that you didn't mention Tablas Creek; did you not get over there?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          pantani RE: ibstatguy Nov 9, 2010 06:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, been to Tablas numerous times. Halter Ranch is right next door and I like their wines better. Funny thing I had a bottle of Cotes de Tablas which was quite good at 3rd Corner in Encinitas and it was $20 but costs $28 at the winery. Tablas Creek is a great place to visit though. I agree with you about Denner being overblown, not my style I like wines with finesse. Also went to Chataeu Margene on a tip but it was expensive and not that great. We did taste and buy some walnut oil there, that stuff is amazing on salads. Also been to Robert Hall, Eberle, Eagle Creek and did not care for any of them. Vina Robles had some decent wines at resonable prices.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            ibstatguy RE: pantani Nov 10, 2010 09:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            buying wine at the winery is ordinarily not a cost effective idea...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              ibstatguy RE: pantani Nov 10, 2010 09:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've tasted some Halter Creek wines and thought that they were certainly nice enough in a Central Coast fashion but it would not have occured to me to characterize them as "wines with finesse". Did you by chance eat at Artisan while in Paso?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                pantani RE: ibstatguy Nov 10, 2010 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Buying at the winery makes sense when they apply the tasting fee towards a purchase.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sadly some wineries think they are too good to even do that anymore.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                I really enjoyed a wine tasting trip to Lodi, free tasting everywhere.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                We did buy a case (a first for me) at Adelaida as they were closing out their recess red for $10 a bottle. I really like this wine for drinking anytime.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Didn't actually make to the town of Paso as we were staying at my daughter's place in SLO. We did have a killer dinner at Novo in SLO.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Finesse" to me means you smell and taste and feel all the good things and don't experience any of the bad things. Very hard to come by of course and doesn't seem terribly related to price.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ibstatguy RE: pantani Nov 11, 2010 08:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  finesse as you define it is not, at all, related to price, thank goodness. We seem to share something in common as I have a daughter living in SLO as well. my favorite restaurant there, Park, has closed, sadly...I still think buying at the winery only makes infrequent sense and of those times, when it is something that is not retailed elsewhere...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    PolarBear RE: ibstatguy Nov 15, 2010 02:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just in case you didn't know The Neon Carrot is Maegen Loring's new catering operation and open for lunch M-F, with a happy hour Friday evenings..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    3536 S Higuera St Ste 206

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ibstatguy RE: PolarBear Nov 16, 2010 05:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      thanks for this! I really enjoyed what she did at Park.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. ibstatguy RE: njfoodies Dec 13, 2010 02:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        another update with bubbles making a stronger appearance:
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2002 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Meursault En La Barre
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Veuve Fourny & Fils Champagne Brut 1er Cru Blanc de Blancs
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2007 Arnaud Ente Volnay 1er Cru Santenots-Du-Milieu
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2007 Denner The Dirt Worshipper
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Catherine et Pierre Breton Vouvray La Dilettante
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2006 Domaine Guy Dufouleur Nuits St. Georges Clos de la Perrière
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Veuve Fourny & Fils Champagne Cuvée "R" Extra Brut
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2003 Château des Tours Vacqueyras
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Diebolt-Vallois Champagne Brut Tradition
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Paul Bara Champagne Brut Reserve Grand Cru
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2005 Fattoria Selvapiana Chianti Rùfina
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Bottex Vin du Bugey-Cerdon La Cueille
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2005 Alban Vineyards Syrah Reva Alban Estate Vineyard
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2005 Dehlinger Pinot Noir Estate
                                                                                                                                                                                                        N.V. Varnier-Fanniere Champagne Grand Cru Brut
                                                                                                                                                                                                        1998 Blankiet Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Paradise Hills Vineyard

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. TheDewster RE: njfoodies Dec 17, 2010 11:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2000 Oremus Tokaji Essenzia, A TBA I can't remember the name of and El Dorado 21 year old rum. A reisling from alsace that cost $200.00 the name escapes me hope this does the trick otherwise it will be a long 2 weeks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ricardo Malocchio RE: njfoodies Dec 17, 2010 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ever since they started hitting these shores, I haven't been able to get enough of the 2009 cru Beaujolais. (Given the slight possibility that some folks in these threads aren't versed in things-Beaujolais, this is very defiantly NOT Beaujolais Nouveau ... which I do not recommend to anyone.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                            My favorites so far (all 2009 vintage of course):
                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Lapierre Morgon
                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Coudert "Clos de la Roilette" Fleurie
                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Jean-Paul Brun Moulin-a-Vent (all will improve with age, but this one needs it most. It may even be on the verge of a shutdown stage)
                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Jean-Paul Brun Morgon (not quite as mindblowing as Lapierre's Morgon, but wonderful stuff)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              sedimental RE: njfoodies Dec 17, 2010 05:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1985 Domaine Ponsot latricieres- chambertin. Opened the case as it doesn't appear to be too popular and wanted to find out why. Not as fab as I thought it should be. Heavy black olive and meat, smells veggie but opens to a smokey-er smell and taste in the glass. Nice old school Pinot, but will be better served with burgers, taco's and casual dinners :(

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